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Researching Polish/Russian Heritage - SHPAK and SKAZINETSKI #general

wolf@...
 

The family name of Shpak dates back to 1800's in a Village in Poland
called Benanifka (any more info on this village would be appreciated)
Daughers and sons came to Canada in the early 1900's (some may have
stayed?or gone to Russia?or Isreal?)

The family name Skazinetski dates back to the 1800's they were in
Mogilev Russia came to Canada in the early 1900's. At customs the
Name was shortened to Kass and Katz.

Any information on these family names would be appreciated

Craig Tallman : Canada
wolf@...

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Rose GREENFIELD Death 1915-1920 #general

BSwart10@...
 

Once again I am requesting a look up at the Vital Records Department
in NYC.

Rose GREENFIELD died between 1915 and 1920. 1915 City Census states
that she was in High School at the time of the census, and was 16
years old.. She was between 16 & 20 when she died. Her date of birth
was August 1898. Her Mother was Kate Greenfield and they lived on
Ave C in Manhattan. Her Father Bernard Greenfield, died in 1899.
1920 census shows that she is now missing >from the 1920 census. Her
sister told me she died before 1920.

Would like a look up at the Records Department if possible.

If anyone is going to any of the Cemeteries around the City, I would
appreciate if you ask in the office, if she is buried in that cemetery.
There might be a family plot with the name of Fried which was Kate's
maiden name. Rose might be buried in their family plot.

I would appreciate any help that any one can give me. I also will be
glad to reinburse anyone if there is a charge for the service.

Beatrice Swart
Tamarac, Fl
BSwart10@...

Researching: SWART, >from London, Mass, and NY. RUDNICK >from Krevo
Belarus and NY City, The Bronx and Westchester Co. KALSTEIN >from
Raczki Poland, and NYC (Bronx and Queens.), GREENFIELD, >from Budepest
and NYC., MISHKIND >from Russia, Vilna, New York City New Jersey, &
Tucson, Ariz.,

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Re: The Five Points #general

Bayla Gan <rookieaz1@...>
 

Ms Kamins wrote:

<< Your chronology is way off as is your geography. In the first
place Chatham Square is nowhere near the area known as Five Points.
Chatham Square is in today's Chinatown, while Five Points is in Soho
further uptown and to the west. >>

I am sorry to say Ms Kamins, your geography is off as well.

The Five Points, was the intersection of Orange (now Baxter), Cross
(now Park), Anthony (aka Cat Hollow, now Worth, also bounded by Ryndert
(now Mulberry). This puts it not in SoHo, but around Foley Square,
in Chinatown, closer to where Ms Torres said

For more information check out this site:
http://r2.gsa.gov/fivept/fphome.htm

Bonnie Miller
Brooklyn, New York

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Discussions relating to genealogy, on topics such as cemetery locations,
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Records in Israel - arrivals, marriage, births, etc. #general

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

My parents, Ester VOLSHTEIN and Nissan REIZER emigrated separately
from Grodno, Belarus around 1920 and settled in Palestine. They met
and married there in the mid 1920s and stayed until 1939 when they
moved to New Zealand.

I would like to know if there are any records that can be accessed
in Israel regarding arrivals, marriage, births etc. I don't have
exact dates for arrival, only an approximation. Any help would be
appreciated.

Many thanks.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching Polish/Russian Heritage - SHPAK and SKAZINETSKI #general

wolf@...
 

The family name of Shpak dates back to 1800's in a Village in Poland
called Benanifka (any more info on this village would be appreciated)
Daughers and sons came to Canada in the early 1900's (some may have
stayed?or gone to Russia?or Isreal?)

The family name Skazinetski dates back to the 1800's they were in
Mogilev Russia came to Canada in the early 1900's. At customs the
Name was shortened to Kass and Katz.

Any information on these family names would be appreciated

Craig Tallman : Canada
wolf@...

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register your family names and towns on the JewishGen Family Finder,
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rose GREENFIELD Death 1915-1920 #general

BSwart10@...
 

Once again I am requesting a look up at the Vital Records Department
in NYC.

Rose GREENFIELD died between 1915 and 1920. 1915 City Census states
that she was in High School at the time of the census, and was 16
years old.. She was between 16 & 20 when she died. Her date of birth
was August 1898. Her Mother was Kate Greenfield and they lived on
Ave C in Manhattan. Her Father Bernard Greenfield, died in 1899.
1920 census shows that she is now missing >from the 1920 census. Her
sister told me she died before 1920.

Would like a look up at the Records Department if possible.

If anyone is going to any of the Cemeteries around the City, I would
appreciate if you ask in the office, if she is buried in that cemetery.
There might be a family plot with the name of Fried which was Kate's
maiden name. Rose might be buried in their family plot.

I would appreciate any help that any one can give me. I also will be
glad to reinburse anyone if there is a charge for the service.

Beatrice Swart
Tamarac, Fl
BSwart10@...

Researching: SWART, >from London, Mass, and NY. RUDNICK >from Krevo
Belarus and NY City, The Bronx and Westchester Co. KALSTEIN >from
Raczki Poland, and NYC (Bronx and Queens.), GREENFIELD, >from Budepest
and NYC., MISHKIND >from Russia, Vilna, New York City New Jersey, &
Tucson, Ariz.,

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Five Points #general

Bayla Gan <rookieaz1@...>
 

Ms Kamins wrote:

<< Your chronology is way off as is your geography. In the first
place Chatham Square is nowhere near the area known as Five Points.
Chatham Square is in today's Chinatown, while Five Points is in Soho
further uptown and to the west. >>

I am sorry to say Ms Kamins, your geography is off as well.

The Five Points, was the intersection of Orange (now Baxter), Cross
(now Park), Anthony (aka Cat Hollow, now Worth, also bounded by Ryndert
(now Mulberry). This puts it not in SoHo, but around Foley Square,
in Chinatown, closer to where Ms Torres said

For more information check out this site:
http://r2.gsa.gov/fivept/fphome.htm

Bonnie Miller
Brooklyn, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: Discussions of geography should be continued privately.
Discussions relating to genealogy, on topics such as cemetery locations,
will be considered for posting.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Records in Israel - arrivals, marriage, births, etc. #general

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

My parents, Ester VOLSHTEIN and Nissan REIZER emigrated separately
from Grodno, Belarus around 1920 and settled in Palestine. They met
and married there in the mid 1920s and stayed until 1939 when they
moved to New Zealand.

I would like to know if there are any records that can be accessed
in Israel regarding arrivals, marriage, births etc. I don't have
exact dates for arrival, only an approximation. Any help would be
appreciated.

Many thanks.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia


Zettchen Neuhan #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

I have found my husband's ggrandparents listed at SLC in Ira
Glazier's "Germans to America," arriving in NY >from Bremen 11
July 1854. Their village in Germany is not listed, though they
may have been >from Hesse Kassel. He is listed as Abraham,
which matches what we know, but she is listed as Zettchen. I
asked the German 'experts' working that day if they were familiar
with the name Zettchen and they were not, though, I don't know
how much they know about Jewish names. Anyway, I'm wondering
what else Zettchen could be. We have Abraham and his wife
"Matilda" on the 1870 Baltimore, MD US Census, and I'm pretty
sure their first child was born in Baltimore in 1856. There is
an age discrepancy with Zettchen and Matilda, but I know that
is common, so I'm wondering, do you think they could be the
same and Matilda is the anglicized name?

Regards and TIA,
Connie Fisher Newhan
Yorba Linda, California
Searching FISHER/FISZER (Poland), BARSKY/BARSKY (Odessa), GOLDBERG
(Russia), FELDMAN (Kovno), SPRINGER, HAMBURGER (Poland), ABRAMS,
FRIEDSAM (Germany), NEWHAN/NEUHAN (Germany), GERSTEN (Galacia)


Re: Five Points & Shearith Israel's cemeteries (was Mt.Zion cemetery) #general

Maria <elena@...>
 

Thanks to Rob and to Toni for the corrections and clarifications
concerning my post on Sephardic cemeteries and 19th century NYC.

For anyone interested, here is a web site on the excavations and
history of the Five Points area:

http://r2.gsa.gov/fivept/fphome.htm

which includes a map of the area confirming Rob's post about Five
Points being within kissing distance of China Town and the Court area.

And some other NYC-related sites that may be of interest:

http://www.twofifth.com/history_then.html (Washington square history)
http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/vr_html/vr/temp_v_gothic_place.htm
(Jeff Market Library)
http://www.roomstolet.net/history.html (Greenwich Village)
http://www.insurance-y2k.com/nycsg/4a.html (Greenwich Village)
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/csi11.html (NYC Sephardic cemetery page)

These seem to indicate that, depending on the historical period in
question, both Toni and I were in the ball park concerning Greenwich
Village and Washington Square. There does seem to be an overlap of
time between the active life of the 11th Street Sephardic cemetery
and the use of Washington Square as a Potters Field; but this period
ended in 1828, when "gentrification" began.

Thanks to all.

Maria Torres
elena@...
MALTINSKY, RUBINSTEIN, ZELLAT (Latvia, GA, PA, MY)
NOTIS (Kovno, NY)
PHILLIPS (DADACZ/DUDACz/ISIDOR/EISENDOR), PSCHESDESKY (Poland, UK, NY)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zettchen Neuhan #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

I have found my husband's ggrandparents listed at SLC in Ira
Glazier's "Germans to America," arriving in NY >from Bremen 11
July 1854. Their village in Germany is not listed, though they
may have been >from Hesse Kassel. He is listed as Abraham,
which matches what we know, but she is listed as Zettchen. I
asked the German 'experts' working that day if they were familiar
with the name Zettchen and they were not, though, I don't know
how much they know about Jewish names. Anyway, I'm wondering
what else Zettchen could be. We have Abraham and his wife
"Matilda" on the 1870 Baltimore, MD US Census, and I'm pretty
sure their first child was born in Baltimore in 1856. There is
an age discrepancy with Zettchen and Matilda, but I know that
is common, so I'm wondering, do you think they could be the
same and Matilda is the anglicized name?

Regards and TIA,
Connie Fisher Newhan
Yorba Linda, California
Searching FISHER/FISZER (Poland), BARSKY/BARSKY (Odessa), GOLDBERG
(Russia), FELDMAN (Kovno), SPRINGER, HAMBURGER (Poland), ABRAMS,
FRIEDSAM (Germany), NEWHAN/NEUHAN (Germany), GERSTEN (Galacia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Five Points & Shearith Israel's cemeteries (was Mt.Zion cemetery) #general

Maria <elena@...>
 

Thanks to Rob and to Toni for the corrections and clarifications
concerning my post on Sephardic cemeteries and 19th century NYC.

For anyone interested, here is a web site on the excavations and
history of the Five Points area:

http://r2.gsa.gov/fivept/fphome.htm

which includes a map of the area confirming Rob's post about Five
Points being within kissing distance of China Town and the Court area.

And some other NYC-related sites that may be of interest:

http://www.twofifth.com/history_then.html (Washington square history)
http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/vr_html/vr/temp_v_gothic_place.htm
(Jeff Market Library)
http://www.roomstolet.net/history.html (Greenwich Village)
http://www.insurance-y2k.com/nycsg/4a.html (Greenwich Village)
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/csi11.html (NYC Sephardic cemetery page)

These seem to indicate that, depending on the historical period in
question, both Toni and I were in the ball park concerning Greenwich
Village and Washington Square. There does seem to be an overlap of
time between the active life of the 11th Street Sephardic cemetery
and the use of Washington Square as a Potters Field; but this period
ended in 1828, when "gentrification" began.

Thanks to all.

Maria Torres
elena@...
MALTINSKY, RUBINSTEIN, ZELLAT (Latvia, GA, PA, MY)
NOTIS (Kovno, NY)
PHILLIPS (DADACZ/DUDACz/ISIDOR/EISENDOR), PSCHESDESKY (Poland, UK, NY)


Re: NY Death Certificate #general

Shelley K. Pollero
 

Patricia Futoran wrote in part:

The Bronx death index shows a Paul Stiller (a resident of the Bronx)
who died August 7th 1945. His death certificate number is 30Y.
I have been told that the "Y" indicates he died outside of the 5
boroughs. Does this indicate "somewhere in NY State" or could it
indicate outside of the State of New York.
My great-grandmother's death certificate was also 30Y as listed on
a NYC death index for 10 Aug 1948. I later found out that she had
died in the Catskills while there for the summer, was subsequently
buried in the family plot in Mt. Judah Cemetery, Queens, NY.

Shelley K. Pollero
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@...


Manchester UK Marriage #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Dear Group,
I have the Marriage Certificate for my ggrandparents Isaac Goldberg,
son of Samuel Goldberg, of Russia to Celia Feldman, daughter of
Moses Feldman, of Kovno? Lithuania?Russia?. They were married 12
April 1886. The certificate says the marriage was solemnized at
the Registers Office in the District of Prestwich, in the County of
Lancaster, and that they were "married in the Register Office by
Certificate before me," and then it's signed by the Registrar. It
also says their address was Cheetham. My question: Do you know,
is this just the registration certificate and does anyone have any
ideas where they actually may have been married. Synogogues at the
time, etc? I don't know if they met in the UK, he was a waterproof
garment maker and she is stated to be a tailoress. They were living
in NYC by 1888, as my grandmother Sadie was born October 1888.

Regards, and TIA (Thanking you in advance),
Connie Fisher Newhan
Yorba Linda, California
Searching FISHER/FISZER (Poland), BARSKY/BARSKY (Odessa), GOLDBERG
(Russia), FELDMAN (Kovno), SPRINGER, HAMBURGER (Poland), ABRAMS,
FRIEDSAM (Germany), NEWHAN/NEUHAN (Germany), GERSTEN (Galacia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NY Death Certificate #general

Shelley K. Pollero
 

Patricia Futoran wrote in part:

The Bronx death index shows a Paul Stiller (a resident of the Bronx)
who died August 7th 1945. His death certificate number is 30Y.
I have been told that the "Y" indicates he died outside of the 5
boroughs. Does this indicate "somewhere in NY State" or could it
indicate outside of the State of New York.
My great-grandmother's death certificate was also 30Y as listed on
a NYC death index for 10 Aug 1948. I later found out that she had
died in the Catskills while there for the summer, was subsequently
buried in the family plot in Mt. Judah Cemetery, Queens, NY.

Shelley K. Pollero
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Manchester UK Marriage #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Dear Group,
I have the Marriage Certificate for my ggrandparents Isaac Goldberg,
son of Samuel Goldberg, of Russia to Celia Feldman, daughter of
Moses Feldman, of Kovno? Lithuania?Russia?. They were married 12
April 1886. The certificate says the marriage was solemnized at
the Registers Office in the District of Prestwich, in the County of
Lancaster, and that they were "married in the Register Office by
Certificate before me," and then it's signed by the Registrar. It
also says their address was Cheetham. My question: Do you know,
is this just the registration certificate and does anyone have any
ideas where they actually may have been married. Synogogues at the
time, etc? I don't know if they met in the UK, he was a waterproof
garment maker and she is stated to be a tailoress. They were living
in NYC by 1888, as my grandmother Sadie was born October 1888.

Regards, and TIA (Thanking you in advance),
Connie Fisher Newhan
Yorba Linda, California
Searching FISHER/FISZER (Poland), BARSKY/BARSKY (Odessa), GOLDBERG
(Russia), FELDMAN (Kovno), SPRINGER, HAMBURGER (Poland), ABRAMS,
FRIEDSAM (Germany), NEWHAN/NEUHAN (Germany), GERSTEN (Galacia)


Re: 1960s NYU student - NEWMAN #general

Yigal Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Hello all and Reeva,

NYU's alumni office (call 212-998-1212) will not provide you
with a name or contact information. However, they will probably
be happy to forward a letter to the Alumni/na if they have a
current address...

Perhaps call and ask?

Good luck!
-Yigal Rechtman
rechtman@...

Reeva Kimble wrote:

Does anyone have yearbooks >from New York University for the early 1960s?
I am looking for an art education major named Peter NEWMAN. I have been
told that he was at NYU around 1962-66. His uncle was Barnet Newman,
the modern artist. His father was George Newman who died in 1961.

All suggestions on locating him would be welcome.


Re: Dlhe Klcovo or Hosszumezzo, Slovakia #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Avraham,

Sorry I missed your message and only found Greg's replying to your
question. Greg is right to a point. Indeed the place you mention
(Dlhe Klcovo) is today in Slovakia, used to be in the Austro-
Hungarian empire and its Hungarian name was Kolcs Hosszumezo aka
Kolcsmezo. It was located in the Zemplen county, Varanno district.
This place is quite close to Humenne (Homonna) and Mihalovce
(Nagymihaly).

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

My mother, Leni nee Klein, had always told us that she was born in
Dlhe Klcovo but upon searching the LDS microfilm record of her birth
I found that she was born in Hosszumezzo (which I had never heard of
before). Can anyone tell me anything about these towns/villages or
perhaps explain the discrepancy? Thank you,
Avraham Ofek
before WW1 Slovakia did not exist as a state, it was part of the
Hungarian Kingdom within the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. ...
Dlhe Klcovo might be the name of the village, which until 1918 was
formally known as Hosszumezo (it means long field in Hungarian).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1960s NYU student - NEWMAN #general

Yigal Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Hello all and Reeva,

NYU's alumni office (call 212-998-1212) will not provide you
with a name or contact information. However, they will probably
be happy to forward a letter to the Alumni/na if they have a
current address...

Perhaps call and ask?

Good luck!
-Yigal Rechtman
rechtman@...

Reeva Kimble wrote:

Does anyone have yearbooks >from New York University for the early 1960s?
I am looking for an art education major named Peter NEWMAN. I have been
told that he was at NYU around 1962-66. His uncle was Barnet Newman,
the modern artist. His father was George Newman who died in 1961.

All suggestions on locating him would be welcome.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dlhe Klcovo or Hosszumezzo, Slovakia #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Avraham,

Sorry I missed your message and only found Greg's replying to your
question. Greg is right to a point. Indeed the place you mention
(Dlhe Klcovo) is today in Slovakia, used to be in the Austro-
Hungarian empire and its Hungarian name was Kolcs Hosszumezo aka
Kolcsmezo. It was located in the Zemplen county, Varanno district.
This place is quite close to Humenne (Homonna) and Mihalovce
(Nagymihaly).

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

My mother, Leni nee Klein, had always told us that she was born in
Dlhe Klcovo but upon searching the LDS microfilm record of her birth
I found that she was born in Hosszumezzo (which I had never heard of
before). Can anyone tell me anything about these towns/villages or
perhaps explain the discrepancy? Thank you,
Avraham Ofek
before WW1 Slovakia did not exist as a state, it was part of the
Hungarian Kingdom within the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. ...
Dlhe Klcovo might be the name of the village, which until 1918 was
formally known as Hosszumezo (it means long field in Hungarian).