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Viewmate 1728/1729: Decipher handwriting (english) #general

R Gerber <beccamd@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I have posted sections of a passenger manifest at the following
locations.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1728.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1729.html

I appreciate any help you can provide with deciphering the 3rd line.
Please respond privately.

Rebecca Gerber
Glenview, IL USA

Researching:
KLAYMAN: Teofipol (Chaun), Ukraine (Volhyn gub.)
ZINKOWETSKY, REZNIK, FINKELSZTEIN: Starokonstantinov uezd, Ukraine
SARBENIK: Rashkov, Moldova (Soroki district)
BLUMOS, BLUMES, BLURRIS, BLUMOS: Rashkov, Ukraine (Bessarabia)


Passenger Lists Baltimore / SSDI #general

martin solomon <bassdoc@...>
 

Are there any online services that have cataloged passenger lists
coming into the Port of Baltimore? I know that I can go to NARA
and that there is an archive in Fort Worth that is not too bad.
Has anyone had success with LDS passenger lists?

I have my grand parents social security numbers through SSDI. Can
these be used to obtain the dates and courts where the Petitions and
Naturalization paperwork is kept?

Dana Feldman

Looking for: GROPEN/GROJPEN/GROPHEN/RUDY/RUDE Dubno - Volhynia
Ukraine/Poland; LUSTBERG - Austria/Romania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 1728/1729: Decipher handwriting (english) #general

R Gerber <beccamd@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I have posted sections of a passenger manifest at the following
locations.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1728.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1729.html

I appreciate any help you can provide with deciphering the 3rd line.
Please respond privately.

Rebecca Gerber
Glenview, IL USA

Researching:
KLAYMAN: Teofipol (Chaun), Ukraine (Volhyn gub.)
ZINKOWETSKY, REZNIK, FINKELSZTEIN: Starokonstantinov uezd, Ukraine
SARBENIK: Rashkov, Moldova (Soroki district)
BLUMOS, BLUMES, BLURRIS, BLUMOS: Rashkov, Ukraine (Bessarabia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger Lists Baltimore / SSDI #general

martin solomon <bassdoc@...>
 

Are there any online services that have cataloged passenger lists
coming into the Port of Baltimore? I know that I can go to NARA
and that there is an archive in Fort Worth that is not too bad.
Has anyone had success with LDS passenger lists?

I have my grand parents social security numbers through SSDI. Can
these be used to obtain the dates and courts where the Petitions and
Naturalization paperwork is kept?

Dana Feldman

Looking for: GROPEN/GROJPEN/GROPHEN/RUDY/RUDE Dubno - Volhynia
Ukraine/Poland; LUSTBERG - Austria/Romania


Polish language materials #rabbinic

Alex P. Korn <apkorn@...>
 

Dear Ravsig Members,

Many of us are probably not aware that Polish academics, being in
possession of much Jewish heritage in their country, are publishing
some very interesting articles and books about Jewish history and
culture in Poland. Of relevance to our interest are a few books I
came across at the Robarts Library at the University of Toronto.

"Groby Cadykow w Polsce" by Marcin Wodzinski is a survey of the
ohalim and gravemarkers - with their full inscriptions - of
chassidic leaders in Poland. There are photographs, both old and
modern, and a valuable listing of rashei taivot, some of which are
rare and have caused some of us difficulty. Incidentally, there is
a sketch of R. Simcha Bunem of Przysucha and his signature on an
official Polish document. Interestingly, he signed his name, Simche
Bonhard.

"Hebrajskie Inskrypcje na Slasku XIII-XVIII Wieku" (Hebrew
Inscriptions >from Silesia >from the 13th to 18th Centuries) by Marcin
Wodzinski published in 1996 also contains photographs and
transcriptions of gravemarkers, this time of well known individuals
and families living in Silesia. This is a book of prime relevance
to genealogists; it includes an index of names, alphabetically
ordered on first name, and of surnames. This book also has a
valuable listing of abbreviations used in tombstone inscriptions.

Sincerely,
Alex P. Korn
URBACH, Dzialoszyn, Poland


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Polish language materials #rabbinic

Alex P. Korn <apkorn@...>
 

Dear Ravsig Members,

Many of us are probably not aware that Polish academics, being in
possession of much Jewish heritage in their country, are publishing
some very interesting articles and books about Jewish history and
culture in Poland. Of relevance to our interest are a few books I
came across at the Robarts Library at the University of Toronto.

"Groby Cadykow w Polsce" by Marcin Wodzinski is a survey of the
ohalim and gravemarkers - with their full inscriptions - of
chassidic leaders in Poland. There are photographs, both old and
modern, and a valuable listing of rashei taivot, some of which are
rare and have caused some of us difficulty. Incidentally, there is
a sketch of R. Simcha Bunem of Przysucha and his signature on an
official Polish document. Interestingly, he signed his name, Simche
Bonhard.

"Hebrajskie Inskrypcje na Slasku XIII-XVIII Wieku" (Hebrew
Inscriptions >from Silesia >from the 13th to 18th Centuries) by Marcin
Wodzinski published in 1996 also contains photographs and
transcriptions of gravemarkers, this time of well known individuals
and families living in Silesia. This is a book of prime relevance
to genealogists; it includes an index of names, alphabetically
ordered on first name, and of surnames. This book also has a
valuable listing of abbreviations used in tombstone inscriptions.

Sincerely,
Alex P. Korn
URBACH, Dzialoszyn, Poland


Re: Switzerland to Ukraine, and surname Shvaisberg Puzzle #ukraine

Yekkey@...
 

Lulu,

I have met many Jews named Schweitzer which means Swiss. I do not know
whether that helps or confuses matters.

Dan Nussbaum
Fall River, Massachusetts

Searching for
NUSSBAUM, KATZENSTEIN-Raboldshausen, Bad Hersfeld and Rhina Germany
TEPLITZKY, BENDERSKY, KASZKIET, KASHKET, GREENBERG-Uman, Ukraine
ROSENTHAL, S(C)HENK(EL)MAN-Zinkov, Ukraine
BILD, KASHLEVSKY-anywhere


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Switzerland to Ukraine, and surname Shvaisberg Puzzle #ukraine

Yekkey@...
 

Lulu,

I have met many Jews named Schweitzer which means Swiss. I do not know
whether that helps or confuses matters.

Dan Nussbaum
Fall River, Massachusetts

Searching for
NUSSBAUM, KATZENSTEIN-Raboldshausen, Bad Hersfeld and Rhina Germany
TEPLITZKY, BENDERSKY, KASZKIET, KASHKET, GREENBERG-Uman, Ukraine
ROSENTHAL, S(C)HENK(EL)MAN-Zinkov, Ukraine
BILD, KASHLEVSKY-anywhere


To donate or not-that is the question! #general

Howard Margol
 

During the recent conference in Toronto, several organizations
with large databases on the internet, announced that without
additional donations their future may be a short lived one. Some
individuals took exception to this "request for money". Some felt
that their donation of "time" was sufficient and the request for
cash donations did not apply to them.

Whether we like it or not, the days of a "free lunch" are coming
closer and closer in ceasing to exist. I am afraid that all of us
have become spoiled by the free databases that have been made
available to us.

A number of major genealogy databases were, until recently, free.
Now, you have to pay a fee to access them. I am afraid that it is
only a matter of time before sites like Jewishgen, Litvak SIG, as
well as other databases, will either be "frozen in time", or have
to close down altogether due to a lack of funds. Volunteerism is
great but, if there is no money with which to purchase needed
hardware, software, search engines, records, etc., the volunteers
will have nothing to do or work with. Ancestry.com used to be free.
Now, they charge $100 USD per year to access their database. All
things considered, it is still a small price to pay for what they
offer that is accessible >from the comfort of your home.

At the recent conference in Toronto I was shocked when I learned
that of the many, many thousands who use Jewishgen almost on a daily
basis only a comparative few donate any money to Jewishgen. I find
it difficult to believe that most of these non-donators are living
on such a limited budget that they cannot afford 50 cents per week.
A minimum of 10,000 users (and that is a very conservative number),
donating 50 cents weekly to Jewishgen, would solve a lot of problems.
I wonder what the reaction would be if Jewishgen had to shut down
for an entire month. Perhaps we need to find out what it would be
like to be without Jewishgen. That action may serve as a wake-up
call to all of us.

I have always made it a personal policy to not tell others how to
spend their money. However, I have also been a firm believer in
marketing a good product. No one is forced to donate money even if
what they are being offered is well worth the price. Example: Litvak
SIG has a policy that if you donate $100 USD to a particular Uezyd,
or District, you will receive all of the translated records received
for that District many months prior to it appearing in the ALD. Is
that a bargain? You bet it is.

Contrast that with sending a research request to the Historical
Archive in Vilnius. You have to send a research fee of $100 USD
plus $13 for a translation of each record they find for your
ancestors. If you request a search for several surnames and several
different towns, more money will required to be sent. Sending a
research request to the Kaunas Archive will require similar amounts
to be sent there as well. For a single $100 donation to the Litvak
SIG, you will receive many, many records >from both archives. Rather
than look at it as a $100 expenditure you cannot afford, consider
it as a real bargain you cannot afford to pass up.

I am in no way criticizing the Lithuanian archives for what they
charge. They are forced to do that in order to support the service
they provide. Also, I have no official position with Jewishgen or
with the Litvak SIG so my comments involving those organizations
are strictly my own. Neither are my comments intended as criticizm
of those who would like to donate but, for various reasons, are
simply not in a position to do so. I would hope that those in that
situation would number in the hundreds and not in the thousands as
the facts suggest.

I am sure there are those who would disagree with my position. I
have no problem with that. I do think, however, that something needs
to be done before it is too late and the wonderful databases that
we have become accustomed to no longer exist.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia

MODERATOR NOTE: Contributions to JewishGen are both needed and
appreciated. You can find out how to contribute at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/


Birth on Ship #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Hello:

My g.g.g.uncle, Isadore Perlman, was born while his family was
immigrating >from Poland to Boston, MA. Would he have been a
citizen of Poland or the US, and where would his birth certificate
have been filed? Once I know his birth date, I'll be able to
find out where they came >from in Poland. Any help would be
*greatly* appreciated.

Thanks,
Josh Brown


Re: Death on Ellis Island #general

Yendor62@...
 

Dear Genners,

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your interest in my quest
for my father's sister. Special thanks to Ida Selavan Schwartz,
Cathy Flamholtz, and Dena Abrams, without whom I could not have
found the following information.

My grandfather was Henoch Abelowitz. I have not yet been able
to ascertain when he came to the US, but I have just verified his
wife's (my grandmother) arrival at Ellis Island with their first
child, Rachel. Rachel died "in hospital" and just today I found
the information about where she is buried.

Feige Leah Abelowitz (listed on the manifest as "Fedge") and her
daughter Rachel (mistakenly listed on the manifest as 36 years old
instead of 3 years 6 months) arrived on the Kroonland >from Antwerp
on April 12, 1906. Rachel died, probably on April 28, as that was
the day that Feige was released >from EI, after consuming 16 days
worth of meals.

Rachel was buried on May 3, 1906 by the Hebrew Free Burial Society
at the Silver Lake Cemetery, which I understand is now part of,
or administered by, the Mt Richmond Cemetery. I have the Section #,
Row # and Grave #. I do not yet know if there is a stone or marker.
I hope to visit the cemetery within the next month or two. I also
plan on getting a death certificate, which should give me more
information.

Feige Leah came >from Kartuz-Bereza, and I believe that my grandfather
Henoch Abelowitz (known in this country as Harry Rabinowitz) came
from either Smolensk or Ekaterinslav, but all my info about him is
at home, and I'm away right now. His address was given on Feige's
manifest as 241 Division St in NYC. The page number of the manifest
is p. 534, and the page which gives the hospital/detention info is
p. 547.

I'm planning to check into my grandfather's death certificate (which
I don't yet have), and his naturalization papers, in hopes of finding
out more about his origins and when he came to this country.

This is truly a wonderful group, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

I will be making a contribution in JewishGen as a thank you for the
help I have received here. Shanah Tovah to all.

Toby RODNEY
apex, nc
yendor62@...
Researching TROIANSKY, ABELOWITZ, RUDNITZKY, ZALMECHOVSKY


Phoning Beth David (Elmont NY) #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

May I trouble someone to make a phone inquiry at Beth David
Cemetery in Elmont NY please?

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen To donate or not-that is the question! #general

Howard Margol
 

During the recent conference in Toronto, several organizations
with large databases on the internet, announced that without
additional donations their future may be a short lived one. Some
individuals took exception to this "request for money". Some felt
that their donation of "time" was sufficient and the request for
cash donations did not apply to them.

Whether we like it or not, the days of a "free lunch" are coming
closer and closer in ceasing to exist. I am afraid that all of us
have become spoiled by the free databases that have been made
available to us.

A number of major genealogy databases were, until recently, free.
Now, you have to pay a fee to access them. I am afraid that it is
only a matter of time before sites like Jewishgen, Litvak SIG, as
well as other databases, will either be "frozen in time", or have
to close down altogether due to a lack of funds. Volunteerism is
great but, if there is no money with which to purchase needed
hardware, software, search engines, records, etc., the volunteers
will have nothing to do or work with. Ancestry.com used to be free.
Now, they charge $100 USD per year to access their database. All
things considered, it is still a small price to pay for what they
offer that is accessible >from the comfort of your home.

At the recent conference in Toronto I was shocked when I learned
that of the many, many thousands who use Jewishgen almost on a daily
basis only a comparative few donate any money to Jewishgen. I find
it difficult to believe that most of these non-donators are living
on such a limited budget that they cannot afford 50 cents per week.
A minimum of 10,000 users (and that is a very conservative number),
donating 50 cents weekly to Jewishgen, would solve a lot of problems.
I wonder what the reaction would be if Jewishgen had to shut down
for an entire month. Perhaps we need to find out what it would be
like to be without Jewishgen. That action may serve as a wake-up
call to all of us.

I have always made it a personal policy to not tell others how to
spend their money. However, I have also been a firm believer in
marketing a good product. No one is forced to donate money even if
what they are being offered is well worth the price. Example: Litvak
SIG has a policy that if you donate $100 USD to a particular Uezyd,
or District, you will receive all of the translated records received
for that District many months prior to it appearing in the ALD. Is
that a bargain? You bet it is.

Contrast that with sending a research request to the Historical
Archive in Vilnius. You have to send a research fee of $100 USD
plus $13 for a translation of each record they find for your
ancestors. If you request a search for several surnames and several
different towns, more money will required to be sent. Sending a
research request to the Kaunas Archive will require similar amounts
to be sent there as well. For a single $100 donation to the Litvak
SIG, you will receive many, many records >from both archives. Rather
than look at it as a $100 expenditure you cannot afford, consider
it as a real bargain you cannot afford to pass up.

I am in no way criticizing the Lithuanian archives for what they
charge. They are forced to do that in order to support the service
they provide. Also, I have no official position with Jewishgen or
with the Litvak SIG so my comments involving those organizations
are strictly my own. Neither are my comments intended as criticizm
of those who would like to donate but, for various reasons, are
simply not in a position to do so. I would hope that those in that
situation would number in the hundreds and not in the thousands as
the facts suggest.

I am sure there are those who would disagree with my position. I
have no problem with that. I do think, however, that something needs
to be done before it is too late and the wonderful databases that
we have become accustomed to no longer exist.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia

MODERATOR NOTE: Contributions to JewishGen are both needed and
appreciated. You can find out how to contribute at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Birth on Ship #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Hello:

My g.g.g.uncle, Isadore Perlman, was born while his family was
immigrating >from Poland to Boston, MA. Would he have been a
citizen of Poland or the US, and where would his birth certificate
have been filed? Once I know his birth date, I'll be able to
find out where they came >from in Poland. Any help would be
*greatly* appreciated.

Thanks,
Josh Brown


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Death on Ellis Island #general

Yendor62@...
 

Dear Genners,

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your interest in my quest
for my father's sister. Special thanks to Ida Selavan Schwartz,
Cathy Flamholtz, and Dena Abrams, without whom I could not have
found the following information.

My grandfather was Henoch Abelowitz. I have not yet been able
to ascertain when he came to the US, but I have just verified his
wife's (my grandmother) arrival at Ellis Island with their first
child, Rachel. Rachel died "in hospital" and just today I found
the information about where she is buried.

Feige Leah Abelowitz (listed on the manifest as "Fedge") and her
daughter Rachel (mistakenly listed on the manifest as 36 years old
instead of 3 years 6 months) arrived on the Kroonland >from Antwerp
on April 12, 1906. Rachel died, probably on April 28, as that was
the day that Feige was released >from EI, after consuming 16 days
worth of meals.

Rachel was buried on May 3, 1906 by the Hebrew Free Burial Society
at the Silver Lake Cemetery, which I understand is now part of,
or administered by, the Mt Richmond Cemetery. I have the Section #,
Row # and Grave #. I do not yet know if there is a stone or marker.
I hope to visit the cemetery within the next month or two. I also
plan on getting a death certificate, which should give me more
information.

Feige Leah came >from Kartuz-Bereza, and I believe that my grandfather
Henoch Abelowitz (known in this country as Harry Rabinowitz) came
from either Smolensk or Ekaterinslav, but all my info about him is
at home, and I'm away right now. His address was given on Feige's
manifest as 241 Division St in NYC. The page number of the manifest
is p. 534, and the page which gives the hospital/detention info is
p. 547.

I'm planning to check into my grandfather's death certificate (which
I don't yet have), and his naturalization papers, in hopes of finding
out more about his origins and when he came to this country.

This is truly a wonderful group, and I'm glad to be a part of it.

I will be making a contribution in JewishGen as a thank you for the
help I have received here. Shanah Tovah to all.

Toby RODNEY
apex, nc
yendor62@...
Researching TROIANSKY, ABELOWITZ, RUDNITZKY, ZALMECHOVSKY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phoning Beth David (Elmont NY) #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

May I trouble someone to make a phone inquiry at Beth David
Cemetery in Elmont NY please?

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Motel Azriel Goldman Where are you?? #general

YASO <yasoked@...>
 

Shalom,
I'm trying to research and find information on an elusive grand
uncle of mine, Motel Azriel Goldman who was born around 1861 in
Zawichosciet, Poland < Lublin area >.

Around 1900 he emigrated to the USA and since then the family lost
contact with him.

The parents of Motel were Kalman Goldman < lived + - 1837-1897 >

Sheindel Silverberg < lived +- 1842-1896 >

Motel had a sister, Ita Haya, my grandmother and namesake.

If anyone is a descendant of Motel or has any information that can
throw some light on my research concerning Motel or where he lived
in the States it would be deeply appreciated. If so, please contact
me privately at yasoked@...

TIA

Ita Oked Sechter
yasoked@...

Researching: FELDMAN, FISHLER, LANDMAN, SADOVNICK, SECHTER, Northen
Bessarabia: Klishkovtsy, Faleshty, Khotin, Kolinkovtsy, Malintsy,
Nedoboyevtsy, Shirovtsy
GEDALIES, GEDALIAS, MAHLER, MILLER, PIZEM, Sadgora, Bukovina area.
GOLDBERG, GOLDMAN, TAXIN, SILVERBERG, Zawichosciet, Lublin area
Brisk Poland area.
[list truncated at six lines in accordance with JewishGen policy]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Motel Azriel Goldman Where are you?? #general

YASO <yasoked@...>
 

Shalom,
I'm trying to research and find information on an elusive grand
uncle of mine, Motel Azriel Goldman who was born around 1861 in
Zawichosciet, Poland < Lublin area >.

Around 1900 he emigrated to the USA and since then the family lost
contact with him.

The parents of Motel were Kalman Goldman < lived + - 1837-1897 >

Sheindel Silverberg < lived +- 1842-1896 >

Motel had a sister, Ita Haya, my grandmother and namesake.

If anyone is a descendant of Motel or has any information that can
throw some light on my research concerning Motel or where he lived
in the States it would be deeply appreciated. If so, please contact
me privately at yasoked@...

TIA

Ita Oked Sechter
yasoked@...

Researching: FELDMAN, FISHLER, LANDMAN, SADOVNICK, SECHTER, Northen
Bessarabia: Klishkovtsy, Faleshty, Khotin, Kolinkovtsy, Malintsy,
Nedoboyevtsy, Shirovtsy
GEDALIES, GEDALIAS, MAHLER, MILLER, PIZEM, Sadgora, Bukovina area.
GOLDBERG, GOLDMAN, TAXIN, SILVERBERG, Zawichosciet, Lublin area
Brisk Poland area.
[list truncated at six lines in accordance with JewishGen policy]


Mascholowitz/Pressman #general

Sandra Yoder
 

Would like to hear >from anyone who knows/or knew Isodore Mascholowitz
(varied spellings) >from Russia, who married Kate Pressman and had at
least 1 son, Herman, born around 1920. They lived for awhile in
Brooklyn with her parents, Samuel and Sara Pressman.

Thank you for your "private" replies.

Sandra (Pressman) Yoder
Goshen IN


Dutch family POP #general

Ramon Pop <pop_ramon@...>
 

Dear genealogists,

Does anybody have information about the Dutch-jewish family POP?

Thank you very much,
Ramon Pop,
Tel-Aviv