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Re: SITE CITE: Bayreuth (Upper Franconina) - List of Shoa victims #germany

Seldner, David <David.Seldner@...>
 

Dear GerSiggers,
A couple of days ago Naomi Teveth posted the address of a list
containing Shoa victims >from Bayreuth (Upper Franconia). I was informed
that there was a problem with it. If you had your monitor set to low
resolution you might have gotten wrong information (that is, the rows
didn't correspond). The problem has been fixed, so you might try to be
on the safe side and take another look. Best regards,

David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany

MODERATOR NOTE: Letters with accent marks do not always work well in this
Forum. See examples below

Researching SELDNER (SELTNER, S=D6LDNER, S=D6LTNER), ROSENBAUM,
LEDERMANN, KATZENBERGER, GOTTHILF, ADELBURG, SICHEL, SZLAMOWICZ,
PACANOWSKI, GLICENSTEIN, KLEMENTINOWSKI
from Gr=FCnsfeld, Hainstadt, Krautheim, K=FCnzelsau, Massbach,
N=FCrnberg, Baltimore (MD), Norfolk (VA), and Lodz (Poland)


German SIG #Germany Re: SITE CITE: Bayreuth (Upper Franconina) - List of Shoa victims #germany

Seldner, David <David.Seldner@...>
 

Dear GerSiggers,
A couple of days ago Naomi Teveth posted the address of a list
containing Shoa victims >from Bayreuth (Upper Franconia). I was informed
that there was a problem with it. If you had your monitor set to low
resolution you might have gotten wrong information (that is, the rows
didn't correspond). The problem has been fixed, so you might try to be
on the safe side and take another look. Best regards,

David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany

MODERATOR NOTE: Letters with accent marks do not always work well in this
Forum. See examples below

Researching SELDNER (SELTNER, S=D6LDNER, S=D6LTNER), ROSENBAUM,
LEDERMANN, KATZENBERGER, GOTTHILF, ADELBURG, SICHEL, SZLAMOWICZ,
PACANOWSKI, GLICENSTEIN, KLEMENTINOWSKI
from Gr=FCnsfeld, Hainstadt, Krautheim, K=FCnzelsau, Massbach,
N=FCrnberg, Baltimore (MD), Norfolk (VA), and Lodz (Poland)


Toronto Conference #general

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

We wanted to take this opportunity to tell everyone what a
wonderful job the Toronto JGS did in putting on this conference.

The syllabus alone was a great achievement.

Congratulations and thanks to all of you.

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Boca Raton, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Toronto Conference #general

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

We wanted to take this opportunity to tell everyone what a
wonderful job the Toronto JGS did in putting on this conference.

The syllabus alone was a great achievement.

Congratulations and thanks to all of you.

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Boca Raton, Florida


Translation help needed - Russian passport #general

baltman@...
 

Dear Forum Members:

I need help translating text >from a passport that belonged to my
paternal grandfather when he arrived in the United States in 1904.

His original name was Leon Khorostaskefsky (or a variation of that
surname). Either at the time of arrival, or shortly after he arrived,
he changed his surname to "Sheff." He arrived at the Port of New
York aboard the ship "Rotterdam," which disembarked >from Rotterdam.

On his petition for naturalization, he wrote that he was born in
Kubiliac (or Rubiliac?), Russia on May 20, 1873.

The passport image can be viewed at this address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1725.html

If anyone can help me out with this translation, I'd greatly
appreciate it.

Sincerely,

Burt Altman
baltman@...

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Re: Birth on Ship #general

escarus@...
 

Citizenship of a child born while onboard a ship can be tricky. I
personally know of someone that was born on a US registered ship
to Spanish parents on their way to work at the Spanish embassy in
Mexico. He actually ended up having multiple citizenships. He had
Spanish, US, Mexican and I think Cuban (apparently that's where the
ship was when he was born). Having US citizenship saved his life
during the Spanish Civil War since it prevented him getting shot.

My understanding is that the child *may* have the citizenship of
the country where the ship is registered, however other factors
influence things such as the date of the birth since different
laws/treaties may apply which affect citizenship, the citizenship of
the parents, was the ship in a port/within waters of another country
plus other factors I don't even know about.

Josh--I would not assume one or the other for citizenship (US vs
Polish). Check the ship's arrival records to see what it says about
the birth, check things like his voter's registration to see if it
says he was naturalized, check the census for citizenship information,
etc. Also keep in mind that he may have never had his birth recorded
by any official document other than the ship's arrival records.
Checking various sources to see what he used as a birth certificate
(after all this wasn't such an important document until Social
Security went into effect in 1935/6 and you had to prove when you
were born) should lead you to the correct information since anything
else could lead to totally erroneous information. After all he could
have been born on a British ship that went through Canadian waters
and actually been born in Canada but had British citizenship!!

Betsey Carus
Baltimore, MD USA


Re: Polish First Names #general

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Martine UMFLAT of Belgium posted as follows:

"I have 2 female relatives born in Poland : Szosze and Czarny.
Does anyone know the right translation of those names in yiddish?"

The Polish spelled name Szosze for females is linked to the
Hebrew name Shoshana. Yiddish variations are Shose and Shoshe.
Other Polish spelled names which are also linked are Szaszana
and Szosia. Polish Jews who immigrated to Argentina adopted
the names Sofia and Susana.

The Polish name Czarny/Czarna/Czerna/Czernia was used by Jewish
women who also carried the Yiddish name Tsharne or Tsherne or Tsarne.
These names derive >from the Slavic name Czarna, meaning "black".
Other Yiddish nicknames are Tsarnil, Tsernye, Tsharke, Tshernye.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation help needed - Russian passport #general

baltman@...
 

Dear Forum Members:

I need help translating text >from a passport that belonged to my
paternal grandfather when he arrived in the United States in 1904.

His original name was Leon Khorostaskefsky (or a variation of that
surname). Either at the time of arrival, or shortly after he arrived,
he changed his surname to "Sheff." He arrived at the Port of New
York aboard the ship "Rotterdam," which disembarked >from Rotterdam.

On his petition for naturalization, he wrote that he was born in
Kubiliac (or Rubiliac?), Russia on May 20, 1873.

The passport image can be viewed at this address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1725.html

If anyone can help me out with this translation, I'd greatly
appreciate it.

Sincerely,

Burt Altman
baltman@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Birth on Ship #general

escarus@...
 

Citizenship of a child born while onboard a ship can be tricky. I
personally know of someone that was born on a US registered ship
to Spanish parents on their way to work at the Spanish embassy in
Mexico. He actually ended up having multiple citizenships. He had
Spanish, US, Mexican and I think Cuban (apparently that's where the
ship was when he was born). Having US citizenship saved his life
during the Spanish Civil War since it prevented him getting shot.

My understanding is that the child *may* have the citizenship of
the country where the ship is registered, however other factors
influence things such as the date of the birth since different
laws/treaties may apply which affect citizenship, the citizenship of
the parents, was the ship in a port/within waters of another country
plus other factors I don't even know about.

Josh--I would not assume one or the other for citizenship (US vs
Polish). Check the ship's arrival records to see what it says about
the birth, check things like his voter's registration to see if it
says he was naturalized, check the census for citizenship information,
etc. Also keep in mind that he may have never had his birth recorded
by any official document other than the ship's arrival records.
Checking various sources to see what he used as a birth certificate
(after all this wasn't such an important document until Social
Security went into effect in 1935/6 and you had to prove when you
were born) should lead you to the correct information since anything
else could lead to totally erroneous information. After all he could
have been born on a British ship that went through Canadian waters
and actually been born in Canada but had British citizenship!!

Betsey Carus
Baltimore, MD USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish First Names #general

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Martine UMFLAT of Belgium posted as follows:

"I have 2 female relatives born in Poland : Szosze and Czarny.
Does anyone know the right translation of those names in yiddish?"

The Polish spelled name Szosze for females is linked to the
Hebrew name Shoshana. Yiddish variations are Shose and Shoshe.
Other Polish spelled names which are also linked are Szaszana
and Szosia. Polish Jews who immigrated to Argentina adopted
the names Sofia and Susana.

The Polish name Czarny/Czarna/Czerna/Czernia was used by Jewish
women who also carried the Yiddish name Tsharne or Tsherne or Tsarne.
These names derive >from the Slavic name Czarna, meaning "black".
Other Yiddish nicknames are Tsarnil, Tsernye, Tsharke, Tshernye.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


ZEIGER & HEIER ancestry #romania

jonnifer16@...
 

I am currently researching my ZEIGER & HEIER ancestry >from Bukovina & have
reached some dead-ends. I've associated the following towns with them:
Sucevita, Suceava, Siret, Straja, Khoryshiye, Budenitz, Czudyn, Czernowitz, &
Gura Humorului. If anyone has any info that they can share, please let me
know.

Thank you.

Jonathan Levine [Place of residence?]

MODERATOR NOTE: Please enter your family names/towns into the Jewishgen
Family Finder (JGFF) at <www.jewishgen.org/jgff> for greater success in
making connections with others who are looking for the same!

If you have already done so, then be sure to keep your listings, as well
as your email address, up-to-date!


Romania SIG #Romania ZEIGER & HEIER ancestry #romania

jonnifer16@...
 

I am currently researching my ZEIGER & HEIER ancestry >from Bukovina & have
reached some dead-ends. I've associated the following towns with them:
Sucevita, Suceava, Siret, Straja, Khoryshiye, Budenitz, Czudyn, Czernowitz, &
Gura Humorului. If anyone has any info that they can share, please let me
know.

Thank you.

Jonathan Levine [Place of residence?]

MODERATOR NOTE: Please enter your family names/towns into the Jewishgen
Family Finder (JGFF) at <www.jewishgen.org/jgff> for greater success in
making connections with others who are looking for the same!

If you have already done so, then be sure to keep your listings, as well
as your email address, up-to-date!


Searching for Goldie GLEIZER #romania

Marcos Gleiser <mgleiser@...>
 

Hello,

I had posted on Viewmate a photo of my great aunt Goldie GLEIZER GROISMAN,
which I would appreciate any help with.

They are in:http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ reg VM-1726; VM-1730

Goldie GLEIZER GROISMAN arrived in Argentina, with her mother Rachel
GROISMAN(my gg-mother) and her brothers Marcos, Samuel, Manuel, Fishel and
her sister Maria Gleizer Groissman, sponsored by Baron Hirsch, circa 1900.
My ggfather Meier GLEIZER, apparently remained in Ataki-Moldova (former
Ukraine, Romania or Bessarabia).

Goldie was married to an American citizen, naturalised Superior Court,
Phila, Pa,July 1898, resident in Kansas City, Mo.(information >from Ellis
Island Archive) and Goldie travelled to the USA.

In Ellis Island archive, I found information about Samuel GLEIZER, 23 years,
who arrived in N.Y. in 1923, in the Pan American for visit his sister Goldie
SHORE. In the same trip arrived Goldie SHORE, 45 yrs (I suppose that it is
not her first entry to USA)

If anyone knows something about Goldie, I will appreciate it very much

Marcos Gleiser
Chile
Plese respond priivately to mgleiser@...


Romania SIG #Romania Searching for Goldie GLEIZER #romania

Marcos Gleiser <mgleiser@...>
 

Hello,

I had posted on Viewmate a photo of my great aunt Goldie GLEIZER GROISMAN,
which I would appreciate any help with.

They are in:http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ reg VM-1726; VM-1730

Goldie GLEIZER GROISMAN arrived in Argentina, with her mother Rachel
GROISMAN(my gg-mother) and her brothers Marcos, Samuel, Manuel, Fishel and
her sister Maria Gleizer Groissman, sponsored by Baron Hirsch, circa 1900.
My ggfather Meier GLEIZER, apparently remained in Ataki-Moldova (former
Ukraine, Romania or Bessarabia).

Goldie was married to an American citizen, naturalised Superior Court,
Phila, Pa,July 1898, resident in Kansas City, Mo.(information >from Ellis
Island Archive) and Goldie travelled to the USA.

In Ellis Island archive, I found information about Samuel GLEIZER, 23 years,
who arrived in N.Y. in 1923, in the Pan American for visit his sister Goldie
SHORE. In the same trip arrived Goldie SHORE, 45 yrs (I suppose that it is
not her first entry to USA)

If anyone knows something about Goldie, I will appreciate it very much

Marcos Gleiser
Chile
Plese respond priivately to mgleiser@...


Looking for family of Bryna GLUCKSTEIN from Kiev #general

Sid Greenberg <sid.greenberg@...>
 

Dear Genners:

My grandfather Jacob and his brother Morris Gluckstein had a
sister Bryna.

After they came to Canada >from Kiev, about 1895-1900, she married
and moved to California. I don't know her married name, but my
cousin here told me that she had a son in the movie industry.

My great grandparents were Sarah- maiden name unknown- and Israel
Gluckstein.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I am registered with JGFF.

Sid Greenberg
sid.greenberg@...
Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada

Researching: GLUCKSTEIN, BERMAN, NAM, NAMOVITZ;
GRINBLAT, GREENBLATT, GREENBERG, WAGMAN.


Norman GREENFELD - Jewish cemetery, Albany NY #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

I am looking for Norman Greenfeld, who used to be the Jewish
Cemetery conservation person for Albany, NY.

We were in touch a couple years ago about a relative of mine
buried in Albany.

When I emailed him yesterday at an email I had >from 2 years
ago, it bounced back.

If anyone knows him, or how he is, and could ask him to please
get in touch with me, I would appreciate the help.

Lilli Sprintz
email: spri0037@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for family of Bryna GLUCKSTEIN from Kiev #general

Sid Greenberg <sid.greenberg@...>
 

Dear Genners:

My grandfather Jacob and his brother Morris Gluckstein had a
sister Bryna.

After they came to Canada >from Kiev, about 1895-1900, she married
and moved to California. I don't know her married name, but my
cousin here told me that she had a son in the movie industry.

My great grandparents were Sarah- maiden name unknown- and Israel
Gluckstein.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I am registered with JGFF.

Sid Greenberg
sid.greenberg@...
Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada

Researching: GLUCKSTEIN, BERMAN, NAM, NAMOVITZ;
GRINBLAT, GREENBLATT, GREENBERG, WAGMAN.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Norman GREENFELD - Jewish cemetery, Albany NY #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

I am looking for Norman Greenfeld, who used to be the Jewish
Cemetery conservation person for Albany, NY.

We were in touch a couple years ago about a relative of mine
buried in Albany.

When I emailed him yesterday at an email I had >from 2 years
ago, it bounced back.

If anyone knows him, or how he is, and could ask him to please
get in touch with me, I would appreciate the help.

Lilli Sprintz
email: spri0037@...


Re: Milton Hirsh, Hirsch or Hirshhorn in DC Area #general

martin solomon <bassdoc@...>
 

If Milton Hirsh was a member of the bar it should not be that
difficult to find him. Check with the Virginia, Maryland and
DC bar associations. They have lists of all members. Some of
the bar associations let you search the lists of their current
members online.

Dana Feldman
searching for: GROPEN/GROPHEN/GROJPEN/GROEPEN - Dubno-Volhynia-
Poland/Ukraine/Russia; RUDE/RUDY-Dubno-Volhynia-Poland/Ukraine/
Russia; LUSTBERG - Austria/Romania; SHENDEROVICH/SENDEROVICH-
Minsk Gubernia

I'm trying to locate Milton Hirsh (may have variant spellings
such as Hirsch, Hirschhorn, Hirshhorn) or members of his family.
Believe he is or was an attorney in the Washington, DC area. He
is distant cousin. His ancestors came >from Latvia possibly via
U.K. and/or Canada.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Milton Hirsh, Hirsch or Hirshhorn in DC Area #general

martin solomon <bassdoc@...>
 

If Milton Hirsh was a member of the bar it should not be that
difficult to find him. Check with the Virginia, Maryland and
DC bar associations. They have lists of all members. Some of
the bar associations let you search the lists of their current
members online.

Dana Feldman
searching for: GROPEN/GROPHEN/GROJPEN/GROEPEN - Dubno-Volhynia-
Poland/Ukraine/Russia; RUDE/RUDY-Dubno-Volhynia-Poland/Ukraine/
Russia; LUSTBERG - Austria/Romania; SHENDEROVICH/SENDEROVICH-
Minsk Gubernia

I'm trying to locate Milton Hirsh (may have variant spellings
such as Hirsch, Hirschhorn, Hirshhorn) or members of his family.
Believe he is or was an attorney in the Washington, DC area. He
is distant cousin. His ancestors came >from Latvia possibly via
U.K. and/or Canada.