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Re: Judith Blumberg Suttner #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am trying to determine who Judith Blumberg Suttner was who appeared as a
flower girl in the following wedding in 1925 in De Aar, SA:

Wedding in De Aar of Herman Bloom and Sonia Goldberg. Flower Girls: Ruth
Blumberg, Judith Suttner (nee Blumberg) Meryl Meyers (nee Blumenthal) Esther
Wides (nee Blumberg).

Would like to know who her parents were and who her husband was.

Thanks,
Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Chanukah Gifts on the JewishGenMall #southafrica

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

Chanukah is very early this year beginning at sundown on November 29th.
Please don't miss the opportunity to support JewishGen while shopping in
the
comfort of your home. Shopping on the JewishGenMall is fast and easy,
and the prices are right.

Visit the mall at http://www.jewishgenmall.org, click on 'Search' at the
bottom of the page and then for starters try typing in 'Gifts,' then click
on 'Go.'Or, select 'Chanukah' and again 'Go.'

If you have a particular book or video in mind, you can type in the title.
Or, if you prefer, select a topic in which you are interested such as
Children, Genealogy, Lithuania, Holocaust, History, and so on.

An appropriate gift suggestion for someone about to begin working on his
genealogy is the new Version 2.0 DoroTree Jewish Genealogy Software
for Windows users. Just type in DOT101 on the Search line and you will
see all the features available. JewishGen is offering this at a special
introductory
price right now."

Happy Chanukah!

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGenMall


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Judith Blumberg Suttner #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am trying to determine who Judith Blumberg Suttner was who appeared as a
flower girl in the following wedding in 1925 in De Aar, SA:

Wedding in De Aar of Herman Bloom and Sonia Goldberg. Flower Girls: Ruth
Blumberg, Judith Suttner (nee Blumberg) Meryl Meyers (nee Blumenthal) Esther
Wides (nee Blumberg).

Would like to know who her parents were and who her husband was.

Thanks,
Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Chanukah Gifts on the JewishGenMall #southafrica

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

Chanukah is very early this year beginning at sundown on November 29th.
Please don't miss the opportunity to support JewishGen while shopping in
the
comfort of your home. Shopping on the JewishGenMall is fast and easy,
and the prices are right.

Visit the mall at http://www.jewishgenmall.org, click on 'Search' at the
bottom of the page and then for starters try typing in 'Gifts,' then click
on 'Go.'Or, select 'Chanukah' and again 'Go.'

If you have a particular book or video in mind, you can type in the title.
Or, if you prefer, select a topic in which you are interested such as
Children, Genealogy, Lithuania, Holocaust, History, and so on.

An appropriate gift suggestion for someone about to begin working on his
genealogy is the new Version 2.0 DoroTree Jewish Genealogy Software
for Windows users. Just type in DOT101 on the Search line and you will
see all the features available. JewishGen is offering this at a special
introductory
price right now."

Happy Chanukah!

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGenMall


Chanukah Gifts on the JewishGenMall #courland #latvia

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

Chanukah is very early this year beginning at sundown on November 29th.
Please don't miss the opportunity to support JewishGen while shopping in
the
comfort of your home. Shopping on the JewishGenMall is fast and easy,
and the prices are right.

Visit the mall at http://www.jewishgenmall.org, click on 'Search' at the
bottom of the page and then for starters try typing in 'Gifts,' then click
on 'Go.'Or, select 'Chanukah' and again 'Go.'

If you have a particular book or video in mind, you can type in the title.
Or, if you prefer, select a topic in which you are interested such as
Children, Genealogy, Lithuania, Holocaust, History, and so on.

An appropriate gift suggestion for someone about to begin working on his
genealogy is the new Version 2.0 DoroTree Jewish Genealogy Software
for Windows users. Just type in DOT101 on the Search line and you will
see all the features available. JewishGen is offering this at a special
introductory
price right now."

Happy Chanukah!

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGenMall


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Chanukah Gifts on the JewishGenMall #courland #latvia

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

Chanukah is very early this year beginning at sundown on November 29th.
Please don't miss the opportunity to support JewishGen while shopping in
the
comfort of your home. Shopping on the JewishGenMall is fast and easy,
and the prices are right.

Visit the mall at http://www.jewishgenmall.org, click on 'Search' at the
bottom of the page and then for starters try typing in 'Gifts,' then click
on 'Go.'Or, select 'Chanukah' and again 'Go.'

If you have a particular book or video in mind, you can type in the title.
Or, if you prefer, select a topic in which you are interested such as
Children, Genealogy, Lithuania, Holocaust, History, and so on.

An appropriate gift suggestion for someone about to begin working on his
genealogy is the new Version 2.0 DoroTree Jewish Genealogy Software
for Windows users. Just type in DOT101 on the Search line and you will
see all the features available. JewishGen is offering this at a special
introductory
price right now."

Happy Chanukah!

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGenMall


Re: Jewish "Juniors"? #general

Jon Meltzer <jonmeltzer@...>
 

dsgood@visi.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
It's an Ashekenazic (northern European, Yiddish-speaking) custom; I don't
think other Jews have it.

I believe it's daughters also -- no naming after living relatives, male
or female.
If an Ashkenazic man remarried after the death of a first wife, and
had daughters by the second, would the custom have permitted naming a
daughter after the deceased first wife?

I'm curious about this, as my great-grandfather married three times,
and we don't know the name of his first wife.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish "Juniors"? #general

Jon Meltzer <jonmeltzer@...>
 

dsgood@visi.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
It's an Ashekenazic (northern European, Yiddish-speaking) custom; I don't
think other Jews have it.

I believe it's daughters also -- no naming after living relatives, male
or female.
If an Ashkenazic man remarried after the death of a first wife, and
had daughters by the second, would the custom have permitted naming a
daughter after the deceased first wife?

I'm curious about this, as my great-grandfather married three times,
and we don't know the name of his first wife.


Los Angeles Jewish Genealogical Society Meeting November 17, 2002 #ukraine

Marion5301@...
 

Visiting Your Ancestral Shtetl: Surprising Discoveries!

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles (JGSLA) will next meet on
Sunday afternoon November 17, 2002 1:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. Six JGSLA members
relate unique experiences while visiting their ancestral shtetls: Belarus
(Nancy Holden); former-Galicia(Gayle Schissel Riley); Lithuania (Sonia
Hoffman); Poland (Jan Meisels Allen); Russian (Dan Cirlin) and Ukraine
(Pamela Weissberger). This is not a "how to go" to your ancestral shtetl,
but rather what happened that made the trip an exceptional memory! Others
may also relate their unique experiences following the presentations. There
will be ample time for questions and answers.

Our traveling library is available prior to the meeting for browsing and
research. JGSLA board members are available for 30 minutes before the
meeting to answer general genealogical questions.

We will meet at the Bernard Milken Jewish Community Campus 22622 Vanowen
Street, West Hills CA 91301.

Directions to the Bernard Milken Jewish Community Campus:

from Los Angeles and eastern part of the San Fernando Valley and the San
Gabriel Valley: take the US 101 North; Exit at Shoup Avenue; Continue Right
on Ventura Blvd to Shoup Avenue; Right on Shoup Avenue to Vanowen
(approximately 1.5 miles); Left on Vanowen - 2 blocks to 226622 Vanowen
Street, West Hills (bldg. on left side of street). Parking structure is on
right as you enter driveway. Parking is free.

from Conejo Valley: take the US 101 South. Exit at Fallbrook Avenue off ramp
Continue Left on Avenue San Luis to Fallbrook. Left on Fallbrook Avenue to V
anowen (approximately 2 miles). Right on Vanowen - 2 blocks to 22622 Vanowen
Street, West Hills (bldg. on right side of street).

from Simi Valley: take the 23 south to the 101 and go east following
directions >from the Conejo Valley above; or take the 118 east to Topanga
Canyon Blvd. Exit and go south to Vanowen. Turn west (right) on Vanowen to
22622 Vanowen.

There is no fee and non-members are welcome.
For more information on the JGSLA, please visit our website:
http://JGSLA.org

Marion Diamond
Sherman Oaks, CA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Normally, we do not post meeting notices. An exception was made in this case because of the Ukraine content in the program.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Los Angeles Jewish Genealogical Society Meeting November 17, 2002 #ukraine

Marion5301@...
 

Visiting Your Ancestral Shtetl: Surprising Discoveries!

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles (JGSLA) will next meet on
Sunday afternoon November 17, 2002 1:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. Six JGSLA members
relate unique experiences while visiting their ancestral shtetls: Belarus
(Nancy Holden); former-Galicia(Gayle Schissel Riley); Lithuania (Sonia
Hoffman); Poland (Jan Meisels Allen); Russian (Dan Cirlin) and Ukraine
(Pamela Weissberger). This is not a "how to go" to your ancestral shtetl,
but rather what happened that made the trip an exceptional memory! Others
may also relate their unique experiences following the presentations. There
will be ample time for questions and answers.

Our traveling library is available prior to the meeting for browsing and
research. JGSLA board members are available for 30 minutes before the
meeting to answer general genealogical questions.

We will meet at the Bernard Milken Jewish Community Campus 22622 Vanowen
Street, West Hills CA 91301.

Directions to the Bernard Milken Jewish Community Campus:

from Los Angeles and eastern part of the San Fernando Valley and the San
Gabriel Valley: take the US 101 North; Exit at Shoup Avenue; Continue Right
on Ventura Blvd to Shoup Avenue; Right on Shoup Avenue to Vanowen
(approximately 1.5 miles); Left on Vanowen - 2 blocks to 226622 Vanowen
Street, West Hills (bldg. on left side of street). Parking structure is on
right as you enter driveway. Parking is free.

from Conejo Valley: take the US 101 South. Exit at Fallbrook Avenue off ramp
Continue Left on Avenue San Luis to Fallbrook. Left on Fallbrook Avenue to V
anowen (approximately 2 miles). Right on Vanowen - 2 blocks to 22622 Vanowen
Street, West Hills (bldg. on right side of street).

from Simi Valley: take the 23 south to the 101 and go east following
directions >from the Conejo Valley above; or take the 118 east to Topanga
Canyon Blvd. Exit and go south to Vanowen. Turn west (right) on Vanowen to
22622 Vanowen.

There is no fee and non-members are welcome.
For more information on the JGSLA, please visit our website:
http://JGSLA.org

Marion Diamond
Sherman Oaks, CA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Normally, we do not post meeting notices. An exception was made in this case because of the Ukraine content in the program.


Sterbcow-Edelman Marriage #general

DEW <DAVE279@...>
 

I would like to receive informtion on the Marriage of Marx STERBCOW
and Marcia EDELMAN. They were married in Harrison County, Mississippi in
1949 (if not 1948) would like to know date of Marriage,etc. Please
reply to Dave E. Winston at E_MAIL:DAVE279@MSN.COM


surname CHAMITA #general

Dina Aptekar Hill <DinaHill@...>
 

My mother was born Genya Szyfra CHAMITA. I was advised many years ago
by a Jewishgenner that her surname is Aramaic and it means "I have
seen".

My mother was born in Chrzanow Lubelski, Poland in 1932. She survived
the Holocaust but 3 out of her 4 brothers did not. The brother that
survived goes by the surname POMERANZ although he was not adopted. He
lives in another country. I am still trying to find out >from my
cousin why he couldn't continue using the CHAMITA surname.

There was only one other surviving CHAMITA after the war. He was a
first cousin to my mother. A very kind and helpful Jewishgenner found
him for me in Australia five years ago. I spoke to him and he was
supposed to supply me with family information when I sent him the
package of info I had regarding the family, but he didn't.

The only things I have in writing regarding the spelling of CHAMITA is
my parents marriage certificate written in Hebrew (married in Israel)
and my birth certificate in Hebrew with an English translation
attached. I realize the English translation of my birth certificate
and those of my two sisters who were also born in Israel was done by a
certified translator for our eventual move to the USA.

In Hebrew, the spelling is "Chet, Mem, Yud, Taf, Hay". Could this
name possibly be spelled another way or translated somehow into a
different surname? I can't believe that in all the searches and
social security death index that I have checked, (even a Yahoo
search), the only CHAMITA that comes up is a city in Mexico??

My zayda Hersch Tzvi CHAMITA had three brothers. Although he and his
brothers didn't survive the Holocaust, I know that the cousin in
Australia was my zayda's nephew. Maybe there are more out there.

I am sorry if this is too wordy, but I'm not sure how much background
to give on such a difficult quest to find someone/anyone else with
that surname or to find out why my mother's family would have an
Aramaic surname.

Searching the following surnames: Aptejker, Aptekarz, Aptekar,
Aptaker, Chill, Hill, Klajnkofman, Kleinkaufman, Chamita, Pess, Pest,
Marvin, Merven, Helfman, Muszkat, Helfman, Schmuckler, Liberman,
Allen, Alensky, Alenski, Gabriel, Ingerman, Rubinstein, Rubenstein,
Chamita

Dina Aptekar Hill
Ft. Lauderdale, FL


Chaim NISANSKI of Slonim #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Folks,

I was told that one of my MEREMINSKI gguncles changed his name in Slonim
to "something like NISANSKI." On the EIDB, I find a Chaim NISANSKI
arriving >from Slonim on November 22nd, 1911. He was a watchmaker, which
fits with some of my other MEREMINSKI Slonimers. He was going to his
brother-in-law, L. HAIBERMAN at 602 E. 8th Ave, NY. HABERMAN ws another
name change in the same family line. Chaim left behind in Slonim his
father, Mendel NISANSKI.

Does this name, or variants, occur in anyone else's tree?

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sterbcow-Edelman Marriage #general

DEW <DAVE279@...>
 

I would like to receive informtion on the Marriage of Marx STERBCOW
and Marcia EDELMAN. They were married in Harrison County, Mississippi in
1949 (if not 1948) would like to know date of Marriage,etc. Please
reply to Dave E. Winston at E_MAIL:DAVE279@MSN.COM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen surname CHAMITA #general

Dina Aptekar Hill <DinaHill@...>
 

My mother was born Genya Szyfra CHAMITA. I was advised many years ago
by a Jewishgenner that her surname is Aramaic and it means "I have
seen".

My mother was born in Chrzanow Lubelski, Poland in 1932. She survived
the Holocaust but 3 out of her 4 brothers did not. The brother that
survived goes by the surname POMERANZ although he was not adopted. He
lives in another country. I am still trying to find out >from my
cousin why he couldn't continue using the CHAMITA surname.

There was only one other surviving CHAMITA after the war. He was a
first cousin to my mother. A very kind and helpful Jewishgenner found
him for me in Australia five years ago. I spoke to him and he was
supposed to supply me with family information when I sent him the
package of info I had regarding the family, but he didn't.

The only things I have in writing regarding the spelling of CHAMITA is
my parents marriage certificate written in Hebrew (married in Israel)
and my birth certificate in Hebrew with an English translation
attached. I realize the English translation of my birth certificate
and those of my two sisters who were also born in Israel was done by a
certified translator for our eventual move to the USA.

In Hebrew, the spelling is "Chet, Mem, Yud, Taf, Hay". Could this
name possibly be spelled another way or translated somehow into a
different surname? I can't believe that in all the searches and
social security death index that I have checked, (even a Yahoo
search), the only CHAMITA that comes up is a city in Mexico??

My zayda Hersch Tzvi CHAMITA had three brothers. Although he and his
brothers didn't survive the Holocaust, I know that the cousin in
Australia was my zayda's nephew. Maybe there are more out there.

I am sorry if this is too wordy, but I'm not sure how much background
to give on such a difficult quest to find someone/anyone else with
that surname or to find out why my mother's family would have an
Aramaic surname.

Searching the following surnames: Aptejker, Aptekarz, Aptekar,
Aptaker, Chill, Hill, Klajnkofman, Kleinkaufman, Chamita, Pess, Pest,
Marvin, Merven, Helfman, Muszkat, Helfman, Schmuckler, Liberman,
Allen, Alensky, Alenski, Gabriel, Ingerman, Rubinstein, Rubenstein,
Chamita

Dina Aptekar Hill
Ft. Lauderdale, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chaim NISANSKI of Slonim #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Folks,

I was told that one of my MEREMINSKI gguncles changed his name in Slonim
to "something like NISANSKI." On the EIDB, I find a Chaim NISANSKI
arriving >from Slonim on November 22nd, 1911. He was a watchmaker, which
fits with some of my other MEREMINSKI Slonimers. He was going to his
brother-in-law, L. HAIBERMAN at 602 E. 8th Ave, NY. HABERMAN ws another
name change in the same family line. Chaim left behind in Slonim his
father, Mendel NISANSKI.

Does this name, or variants, occur in anyone else's tree?

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, Arizona


emigration from france in the 19th C. #france

Dottie Miller
 

Dear French Genners,

Did French citizens who emigrated >from France (Le Havre) in 1871 have to
petition the government in order to do so? If so, is it possible to
obtain records by mail? My ggfa and his younger brother immigrated to
New York and then to Missippi >from Duppigheim, Bas-Rhin. I don't know
whether they left before or after Alsace became part of Germany.

Thank you in advance for any help you can offer!

Dottie J. Miller
San Antonio, TX USA

DREYFUSS >from Duppigheim, BIGART/BICART//PICART/PICARD >from Gerstheim,
MEYER >from Goersdorf, WOLFF >from Bischheim, LEVY>from Gerstheim, LEVY and
RABBI NATHAN >from Dambach, BAMBERGER >from Diebolsheim, WEYL >from Mutzig,
DREYFUS >from Brumath, Bloch >from Schweighausen and Weshoffen


French SIG #France emigration from france in the 19th C. #france

Dottie Miller
 

Dear French Genners,

Did French citizens who emigrated >from France (Le Havre) in 1871 have to
petition the government in order to do so? If so, is it possible to
obtain records by mail? My ggfa and his younger brother immigrated to
New York and then to Missippi >from Duppigheim, Bas-Rhin. I don't know
whether they left before or after Alsace became part of Germany.

Thank you in advance for any help you can offer!

Dottie J. Miller
San Antonio, TX USA

DREYFUSS >from Duppigheim, BIGART/BICART//PICART/PICARD >from Gerstheim,
MEYER >from Goersdorf, WOLFF >from Bischheim, LEVY>from Gerstheim, LEVY and
RABBI NATHAN >from Dambach, BAMBERGER >from Diebolsheim, WEYL >from Mutzig,
DREYFUS >from Brumath, Bloch >from Schweighausen and Weshoffen


Finding Background Information on people #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

There is an old saying in my family: "for a young kid all jokes are
new". I guess it could be adapted to "for a rookie genealogical
researcher all websites he/she hasn't yet visited are new". So if you
are familiar with what I'm about to report please be forbearing.

I stumbled into Google's (yes the famous search engine) "Google's
Services and Tools" page http://www.google.com/options/index.html.
Guess what? Besides the well know search facility, Google offers many
more searching possibilities.

One of them is "Google Answers"
https://answers.google.com/answers/main . You place a question, pay
a quite modest fee and get a very thorough answer. The answers are
given by experts who investigate the most important sources, off and
online, to guide you through further searches.

All already given answers can be browsed for free. I tried the world
"genealogy" and came up with over 80 questions and related answers
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?
cmd=search&q=genealogy&qtype=all&btnG=Google+Search&catid=1300.

Here is an example: "How to find background information on people?"
This is the page where the answer was given:
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=100974

You will be amazed (at least I was) about how many public records
online databases exist where you may find new information about your
ancestry, mostly for free.

BTW, one of the searches the person who answered this question did
was on Google using the search term ["people finding" search
techniques OR databases]

I hope you find this useful. Enjoy.
Tom

MODERATOR NOTE: This is a one time sales mention for this site.
Also please note that some of the URLs may be bisected and therefore
need to be copied and pasted into the address box.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding Background Information on people #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

There is an old saying in my family: "for a young kid all jokes are
new". I guess it could be adapted to "for a rookie genealogical
researcher all websites he/she hasn't yet visited are new". So if you
are familiar with what I'm about to report please be forbearing.

I stumbled into Google's (yes the famous search engine) "Google's
Services and Tools" page http://www.google.com/options/index.html.
Guess what? Besides the well know search facility, Google offers many
more searching possibilities.

One of them is "Google Answers"
https://answers.google.com/answers/main . You place a question, pay
a quite modest fee and get a very thorough answer. The answers are
given by experts who investigate the most important sources, off and
online, to guide you through further searches.

All already given answers can be browsed for free. I tried the world
"genealogy" and came up with over 80 questions and related answers
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?
cmd=search&q=genealogy&qtype=all&btnG=Google+Search&catid=1300.

Here is an example: "How to find background information on people?"
This is the page where the answer was given:
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=100974

You will be amazed (at least I was) about how many public records
online databases exist where you may find new information about your
ancestry, mostly for free.

BTW, one of the searches the person who answered this question did
was on Google using the search term ["people finding" search
techniques OR databases]

I hope you find this useful. Enjoy.
Tom

MODERATOR NOTE: This is a one time sales mention for this site.
Also please note that some of the URLs may be bisected and therefore
need to be copied and pasted into the address box.