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WALDHORN/SACHS in Ilfeld #germany

Linda Gilmore <lggrn@...>
 

I finally found the death certificate for my gggg-grandfather Moise
WALDHORN who died in 1843at the age of 90 in Goersdorf, Bas Rhine.

It states his parents were "SACHS, Jacques" and "ROSENTHAL, Jeannette"
both >from Ilfeld.

Can any one help me find more information about Ilfeld. Also, does anyone
know if records exist for the early to mid 1700's for Ilfeld and how to
access them? Thank you. L'Shana Tovah,

Linda Gilmore Chelmsford, Massachusetts

MOD NOTE: Within the past 2 months we posted the URL for a web page that
gives the French and German names of towns in the Bas Rhin area. If you
locate that resource via a GerSig archives search
<http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop>
it may help you find this town under an alternate name or spelling.

A soundex search via the JewishGen Shtetl Seeker at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/>
may also be helpful. MOD 1


German SIG #Germany WALDHORN/SACHS in Ilfeld #germany

Linda Gilmore <lggrn@...>
 

I finally found the death certificate for my gggg-grandfather Moise
WALDHORN who died in 1843at the age of 90 in Goersdorf, Bas Rhine.

It states his parents were "SACHS, Jacques" and "ROSENTHAL, Jeannette"
both >from Ilfeld.

Can any one help me find more information about Ilfeld. Also, does anyone
know if records exist for the early to mid 1700's for Ilfeld and how to
access them? Thank you. L'Shana Tovah,

Linda Gilmore Chelmsford, Massachusetts

MOD NOTE: Within the past 2 months we posted the URL for a web page that
gives the French and German names of towns in the Bas Rhin area. If you
locate that resource via a GerSig archives search
<http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop>
it may help you find this town under an alternate name or spelling.

A soundex search via the JewishGen Shtetl Seeker at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/>
may also be helpful. MOD 1


Post-Dachau Deportations #germany

jesseo@...
 

I believe my grandfather may have been imprisoned in Dachau prior to
leaving Germany for New York in February, 1939 with a visa >from the
American consulate in Stuttgart. If anyone knows where to find
information about people released >from camps like Dachau around this time
(and the contingencies, such as being forced to leave the country
immediately upon release, etc.) or has any details about the American visa
process for German Jews (and atmosphere surrounding this pursuit) in the
grave and dangerous post-Kristalnacht period, please be in touch.
Thanks much,

Jesse Oppenheimer Los Angeles, California

MOD NOTE: Both JewishGen and GerSig websites have resource links for
Holocaust research. GerSig's is at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/holocaust.htm>


German SIG #Germany Post-Dachau Deportations #germany

jesseo@...
 

I believe my grandfather may have been imprisoned in Dachau prior to
leaving Germany for New York in February, 1939 with a visa >from the
American consulate in Stuttgart. If anyone knows where to find
information about people released >from camps like Dachau around this time
(and the contingencies, such as being forced to leave the country
immediately upon release, etc.) or has any details about the American visa
process for German Jews (and atmosphere surrounding this pursuit) in the
grave and dangerous post-Kristalnacht period, please be in touch.
Thanks much,

Jesse Oppenheimer Los Angeles, California

MOD NOTE: Both JewishGen and GerSig websites have resource links for
Holocaust research. GerSig's is at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/holocaust.htm>


INTRO: Searching JACOBSON from Prussia #germany

SANDI ROOT
 

Searching the JACOBSON family >from Prussia, Russia, and/or
Poland (it appears all three ways in various documents), and
Chicago:
Israel JACOBSON, peddler and carpenter b. ca. 1833
Wife - Rebecca 'Bessie' (BLOCK) b. ca. 1837
Known Children - Samuel (my maternal grandfather), Jennie, and Anna

Hopefully a connection can be found.

Sandi Root <roadrunr2@...> South Padre Island, Texas USA

Searching:
BADESCH, BANUS/BENESH/BENNISH/BEINASH/BEINASHOWITZ, BECKERMAN,
BLOCK/BLOCH, BLUMENTHAL, BRODY, EICHEL, FRIEDLEN, GALINA, GOLD, GREENBERG,
GUTKOWSKY/GOOD, HARWICK, HERRE, JACOBSON, KAHAN/KAGAN/COHEN, LIEBOVITCH,
MENDELSON, MICHELSON, NIDER, PETERS, PISER, SCHNEIDERMAN/SNYDERMAN,
SUVALKER, WHATLEY, ZIVETZ

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSig. Please spend some time reading the
basic research guides to be found in your GerSig "Welcome" letter and at
the GerSig and JewishGen websites.

example: <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>

You should also review the guidlines for posting to this and other
discussion group lists, especially the sections on how to word an inquiry.

"Searching the JACOBSON family >from Prussia, Russia, and/or Poland" is too
broad to allow us to provide you with any specific help.

Likewise, your "Researching" list gives names only, no towns of origin.
It is unlikely that this list can be useful in this form. See the sample
"Researching" list included in the GerSig "Welcome" letter. MOD1


German SIG #Germany INTRO: Searching JACOBSON from Prussia #germany

SANDI ROOT
 

Searching the JACOBSON family >from Prussia, Russia, and/or
Poland (it appears all three ways in various documents), and
Chicago:
Israel JACOBSON, peddler and carpenter b. ca. 1833
Wife - Rebecca 'Bessie' (BLOCK) b. ca. 1837
Known Children - Samuel (my maternal grandfather), Jennie, and Anna

Hopefully a connection can be found.

Sandi Root <roadrunr2@...> South Padre Island, Texas USA

Searching:
BADESCH, BANUS/BENESH/BENNISH/BEINASH/BEINASHOWITZ, BECKERMAN,
BLOCK/BLOCH, BLUMENTHAL, BRODY, EICHEL, FRIEDLEN, GALINA, GOLD, GREENBERG,
GUTKOWSKY/GOOD, HARWICK, HERRE, JACOBSON, KAHAN/KAGAN/COHEN, LIEBOVITCH,
MENDELSON, MICHELSON, NIDER, PETERS, PISER, SCHNEIDERMAN/SNYDERMAN,
SUVALKER, WHATLEY, ZIVETZ

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSig. Please spend some time reading the
basic research guides to be found in your GerSig "Welcome" letter and at
the GerSig and JewishGen websites.

example: <http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>

You should also review the guidlines for posting to this and other
discussion group lists, especially the sections on how to word an inquiry.

"Searching the JACOBSON family >from Prussia, Russia, and/or Poland" is too
broad to allow us to provide you with any specific help.

Likewise, your "Researching" list gives names only, no towns of origin.
It is unlikely that this list can be useful in this form. See the sample
"Researching" list included in the GerSig "Welcome" letter. MOD1


JILOWSKI deportees from Hamburg #germany

Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
 

I am looking for the fate of the following JILOWSKI living in Hamburg in
the late 1930, Richard, Erma and Irma (both born Bergman)
Any help or pointers would be helpful.

Pierre M. Hahn, San Francisco, California <pierre28@...>


German SIG #Germany JILOWSKI deportees from Hamburg #germany

Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
 

I am looking for the fate of the following JILOWSKI living in Hamburg in
the late 1930, Richard, Erma and Irma (both born Bergman)
Any help or pointers would be helpful.

Pierre M. Hahn, San Francisco, California <pierre28@...>


Re: "modern cursive" Hebrew--German or Polish in origin? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/2/2002 2:15:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rob.e@... writes:

<< It was my understanding that the modern hebrew script is based on the
same characters used in the written yiddish language which would be the same
in either Poland or Germany. The characters are of course the Hebrew
alphabet used in the written yiddish language. I would certainly be
interested in finding out more about the origins of the script and if there
are regional variations. >>

==Printed fonts and engraved faces ten to remain unchanged for long periods
of time, not so cursive faces which are simplifications to speed writing.
Every person'r cursive is individual--and probably changes with the time of
day and the digestive procees. Jewish Encyclopedia and Encyclopedia Judaica
each discuss some 30 differing cursive faces/families.

"Standard" modern Israeli cursive is based, of course, on recent Hebrew
cursive faces. (that Hebrew letters were used for writing German, Yiddish,
Ladino, Italian and Greek made them no less Hebrewand that these letter were
occasionally used for writing Yiddish is irrelevant).

Standard modern Israeli cursive (i.e. that which is taught in schools and
featured in type and computer fonts), is derived >from Ashkenazi *Hebrew*
cursives of the Hebrew alphabet as used at a certain time in a certain
place--apparently Germany at the end of the 19th century according to the
cited encyclopedias. Since offset printing was already well-developed at
that period, I assume that in sample books for children, formal cursive
styles in Eastern Europe differed very little if any >from the German style.

However, it would be interesting to know which was the specific model for
today's standard Israeli cursive. Anyone know?

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Kosow Lacki Indices Now On-Line #general

Susan Stone <stonegs@...>
 

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is pleased to announce that the 1863-1899
Birth, Marriage and Death Indices for Kosow Lacki, Poland have been added to
the online searchable database. This project is part of the JRI-Poland /
Polish State Archives initiative for the indexing of Jewish vital records of
towns in the Siedlce branch.

Kosow Lacki is located 54 miles ENE of Warsaw and 56 miles SW of Bialystok.
Its geographical coordinates are 52'36"/22'09".

I would like to thank members of the JRI-Poland team, Stanley Diamond, Judy
Baston, Michael Tobias, and Sheila Salo as well as Town Leader Paul Weiss
for his leadership of the Kosow Lacki project, and the many researchers who
generously contributed to the indexing of these records.

Visit the JRI-Poland site at http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jriplweb.htm to
search for your family names in the database.

Susan Stone
Siedlce Archive Coordinator
Polish State Archives Project


instructions and status of orders from PSA #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Can anyone update us on the issue regarding orders of vital records
from PSA in Poland? There was a problem with currency charges that needed
to be resolved, I believe.

Is there a new procedure to order vital records? Should we use the old
procedure?
Should we continue to wait?

Shana Tova,

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>


Did your ancestors serve in the military in Europe? #general

Bkhait@...
 

If your ancestors served in the Austrian, Polish, or Russian military
(although I wouldn't exclude any other service), I'd like to hear >from you
for possible inclusion of your story and your reserach methodologies in an
article I'm writiing for Heritage Quest. Please respond privately to
bkhait@....

L'shana Tovah!
Barbara Khait
bkhait@...
Somerset, NJ


Israel ROGENBLAT or L(ouis) ISRAEL #general

philafrum
 

Genners,

According to the manifest >from the SS Germanic arriving in NYC on August 15,
1904, p. 170, lines 15 & 16, my great grendfather 'Mendel SHTEIN" (actually
Pinchas Mendelstein) was headed to a Mr. L(ouis) Israel at 377 E.. 101
St.with an "Israel ROGENBLAT". According to the manifest my great
grandfather was a cousin to this individual, while Mr. Rogenblat was a
brother-in-law. Does anybody have an idea who either Israel ROGENBLAT or
L(ouis) ISRAEL was?

Please respond to me privately. Thanks. Shanah tovah.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@...
Cherry Hill, NJ

Searching:
MANDELSTEIN/MENDELSTEIN/MENDELSOHN (Starokonstantinov), ADELMAN/EDELMAN
(Krasilov), KALMANOWITZ, LISNITZER (Kamenets Podolskiy, Zaslaw), FISHMAN
(Terespol), UDIN, BURSTEIN, WINARSKY (Kiev), PRESSEISEN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "modern cursive" Hebrew--German or Polish in origin? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/2/2002 2:15:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rob.e@... writes:

<< It was my understanding that the modern hebrew script is based on the
same characters used in the written yiddish language which would be the same
in either Poland or Germany. The characters are of course the Hebrew
alphabet used in the written yiddish language. I would certainly be
interested in finding out more about the origins of the script and if there
are regional variations. >>

==Printed fonts and engraved faces ten to remain unchanged for long periods
of time, not so cursive faces which are simplifications to speed writing.
Every person'r cursive is individual--and probably changes with the time of
day and the digestive procees. Jewish Encyclopedia and Encyclopedia Judaica
each discuss some 30 differing cursive faces/families.

"Standard" modern Israeli cursive is based, of course, on recent Hebrew
cursive faces. (that Hebrew letters were used for writing German, Yiddish,
Ladino, Italian and Greek made them no less Hebrewand that these letter were
occasionally used for writing Yiddish is irrelevant).

Standard modern Israeli cursive (i.e. that which is taught in schools and
featured in type and computer fonts), is derived >from Ashkenazi *Hebrew*
cursives of the Hebrew alphabet as used at a certain time in a certain
place--apparently Germany at the end of the 19th century according to the
cited encyclopedias. Since offset printing was already well-developed at
that period, I assume that in sample books for children, formal cursive
styles in Eastern Europe differed very little if any >from the German style.

However, it would be interesting to know which was the specific model for
today's standard Israeli cursive. Anyone know?

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kosow Lacki Indices Now On-Line #general

Susan Stone <stonegs@...>
 

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is pleased to announce that the 1863-1899
Birth, Marriage and Death Indices for Kosow Lacki, Poland have been added to
the online searchable database. This project is part of the JRI-Poland /
Polish State Archives initiative for the indexing of Jewish vital records of
towns in the Siedlce branch.

Kosow Lacki is located 54 miles ENE of Warsaw and 56 miles SW of Bialystok.
Its geographical coordinates are 52'36"/22'09".

I would like to thank members of the JRI-Poland team, Stanley Diamond, Judy
Baston, Michael Tobias, and Sheila Salo as well as Town Leader Paul Weiss
for his leadership of the Kosow Lacki project, and the many researchers who
generously contributed to the indexing of these records.

Visit the JRI-Poland site at http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jriplweb.htm to
search for your family names in the database.

Susan Stone
Siedlce Archive Coordinator
Polish State Archives Project


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen instructions and status of orders from PSA #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Can anyone update us on the issue regarding orders of vital records
from PSA in Poland? There was a problem with currency charges that needed
to be resolved, I believe.

Is there a new procedure to order vital records? Should we use the old
procedure?
Should we continue to wait?

Shana Tova,

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Did your ancestors serve in the military in Europe? #general

Bkhait@...
 

If your ancestors served in the Austrian, Polish, or Russian military
(although I wouldn't exclude any other service), I'd like to hear >from you
for possible inclusion of your story and your reserach methodologies in an
article I'm writiing for Heritage Quest. Please respond privately to
bkhait@....

L'shana Tovah!
Barbara Khait
bkhait@...
Somerset, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israel ROGENBLAT or L(ouis) ISRAEL #general

philafrum
 

Genners,

According to the manifest >from the SS Germanic arriving in NYC on August 15,
1904, p. 170, lines 15 & 16, my great grendfather 'Mendel SHTEIN" (actually
Pinchas Mendelstein) was headed to a Mr. L(ouis) Israel at 377 E.. 101
St.with an "Israel ROGENBLAT". According to the manifest my great
grandfather was a cousin to this individual, while Mr. Rogenblat was a
brother-in-law. Does anybody have an idea who either Israel ROGENBLAT or
L(ouis) ISRAEL was?

Please respond to me privately. Thanks. Shanah tovah.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@...
Cherry Hill, NJ

Searching:
MANDELSTEIN/MENDELSTEIN/MENDELSOHN (Starokonstantinov), ADELMAN/EDELMAN
(Krasilov), KALMANOWITZ, LISNITZER (Kamenets Podolskiy, Zaslaw), FISHMAN
(Terespol), UDIN, BURSTEIN, WINARSKY (Kiev), PRESSEISEN


KUSCHELEWITZ in South Africa #general

Leon Menzer <mincer@...>
 

I am searching for the descendents of Kuschelewitz, perhaps Shmulek
Kuschelewitz, who emigrated to South Africa >from Prussia or Lithuania
before 1938.

--
Leon Menzer
Dallas, Texas
mailto: mincer@...


Machzike Hadath Anshei Zborow - how do I locate temple records? #general

Michael Kranish <mkranish@...>
 

Dear Group,
I am trying to determine if there are any records, newsletters, etc. >from a
now-defunct Manhattan temple called Machzike Hadath Anshei Zborow. This is
according to the Works Progress Administration (WPA) Federal Writers Project
Survey of State and Local Historical Records (1939)
Church Records Jewish - Synagogue. It doesn't say what year the temple
organized and I haven't seen the actual card entry - this information is
gleaned >from the New York Jewish Genealogical Society database. (found at:
http://home.att.net/~JGSNYCem/synagogues.htm
I'm guessing the temple was organized around the turn of the last century
and probably last for 15 or 20 years. Was it absorbed by another larger
temple? Do records exist anywhere? Or at least the names of incorporators or
directors?
please respond by email even if you post.
Thank you
mkranish@...
researching Meyer KRONISH/Kronish of Zborow