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Re: Ships to South Africa #southafrica

Richard Newman <genserch@...>
 

Ann shalom,hope you are well.

While talking 'ships and shippin' I need to find a ship in the 1880's whi=
ch came here to New York. I have the, route, date of landing in NY, and =
approx name. How would I go about getting more info? It was a German li=
ne.

Please help,

regards

Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Rabinowitz
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 10:38 AM
To: South Africa SIG
Subject: [safrica] Ships to South Africa
=20
There are a number of resources which provide ship's names, i.e., those t=
hat
went >from Lithuania and/or other countries to England and those that went
from England to South Africa.
For those that are readily available to you, try the following:

1. For ships that went >from Lithuania to England, try the Poor Jews'
Temporary Shelter Database

2. For ships that went >from England to South Africa, try "The Cape Run".

In terms of a book similar to Morton's that has all the names and sailing=
s
of all the ships, that has not been done. There was a database available=
of
ships' names at the last IAJGS in London, but it has not been published a=
nd
is not available generally. The database did not give the sailings of al=
l
the ships, only their names.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Ships to South Africa #southafrica

Richard Newman <genserch@...>
 

Ann shalom,hope you are well.

While talking 'ships and shippin' I need to find a ship in the 1880's whi=
ch came here to New York. I have the, route, date of landing in NY, and =
approx name. How would I go about getting more info? It was a German li=
ne.

Please help,

regards

Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Rabinowitz
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 10:38 AM
To: South Africa SIG
Subject: [safrica] Ships to South Africa
=20
There are a number of resources which provide ship's names, i.e., those t=
hat
went >from Lithuania and/or other countries to England and those that went
from England to South Africa.
For those that are readily available to you, try the following:

1. For ships that went >from Lithuania to England, try the Poor Jews'
Temporary Shelter Database

2. For ships that went >from England to South Africa, try "The Cape Run".

In terms of a book similar to Morton's that has all the names and sailing=
s
of all the ships, that has not been done. There was a database available=
of
ships' names at the last IAJGS in London, but it has not been published a=
nd
is not available generally. The database did not give the sailings of al=
l
the ships, only their names.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


The Book - THE UNBELIEVABLE TRUTH #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

I want to thank all those who responded to my message about Jeanne Ran
Tcharnyi's book, "The Unbelievable Truth". Three individuals in Israel
volunteered to each bring five books to the Toronto Conference so a total of fifteen books will be available at the Avotaynu Vendor booth. Their booth will be open >from noon - 5 p.m. on Sunday, 9 - 5 p.m. Mon - Thurs., and 9 a.m. - noon on Friday. Purchase of these particular books must be either by cash or check. Gary Mokotoff has very graciously offered to send the entire proceeds to Jeanne Ran Tcharnyi in Israel. Come early as the 15 copies will not last long.

NOTE: I received a message >from a Sara in Toronto but inadvertedly deleted
her email address. If Sara sees this message, please contact me privately and not to the Digest.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania The Book - THE UNBELIEVABLE TRUTH #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

I want to thank all those who responded to my message about Jeanne Ran
Tcharnyi's book, "The Unbelievable Truth". Three individuals in Israel
volunteered to each bring five books to the Toronto Conference so a total of fifteen books will be available at the Avotaynu Vendor booth. Their booth will be open >from noon - 5 p.m. on Sunday, 9 - 5 p.m. Mon - Thurs., and 9 a.m. - noon on Friday. Purchase of these particular books must be either by cash or check. Gary Mokotoff has very graciously offered to send the entire proceeds to Jeanne Ran Tcharnyi in Israel. Come early as the 15 copies will not last long.

NOTE: I received a message >from a Sara in Toronto but inadvertedly deleted
her email address. If Sara sees this message, please contact me privately and not to the Digest.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...


How to find Holocaust survivors? #general

B Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

I recently found some possible members of my family on the JewishGen
Holocaust site, specifically the Dachau Concentration Camp Records. They
survived, according to the record. Can someone please tell me the next
step in trying to find these people or their descendants? Whom should I
contact?

Thank you.
Bonnie Frederics


a census circa 1890-1895 for NYC? #general

Howard Zakai
 

Hey guys,

Is there no census available for finding family in Manhattan or Brooklyn
in the years 1890 - 1895?

I have an ancestor arrivining in NYC in June 1889. He does not appear on
a city directory until 1891, when he is in the Lower East Side in
Manhattan. He is not listed at that address in the 1890 Police Census.
He is at that same address as of 1894/5, but I would like to see with whom
he was living.

Checking through Jewishgen Infofiles, I see there are no state census
records for those years. Am I really out of luck?

Thank you in advance..

Howie Zakai
Staten Island, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: A search of the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop> for 1895
Police Census yields some inconsistent information about these resources.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to find Holocaust survivors? #general

B Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

I recently found some possible members of my family on the JewishGen
Holocaust site, specifically the Dachau Concentration Camp Records. They
survived, according to the record. Can someone please tell me the next
step in trying to find these people or their descendants? Whom should I
contact?

Thank you.
Bonnie Frederics


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen a census circa 1890-1895 for NYC? #general

Howard Zakai
 

Hey guys,

Is there no census available for finding family in Manhattan or Brooklyn
in the years 1890 - 1895?

I have an ancestor arrivining in NYC in June 1889. He does not appear on
a city directory until 1891, when he is in the Lower East Side in
Manhattan. He is not listed at that address in the 1890 Police Census.
He is at that same address as of 1894/5, but I would like to see with whom
he was living.

Checking through Jewishgen Infofiles, I see there are no state census
records for those years. Am I really out of luck?

Thank you in advance..

Howie Zakai
Staten Island, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: A search of the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop> for 1895
Police Census yields some inconsistent information about these resources.


E-Publication: Ben Shahn 1898-1969 #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
The LitvakSIG Online Journal is pleased to announce the
e-publication of a second article in a series about Lithuanian Jews who
appear on Postage Stamps. As Vitaly Charny writes in the introduction to
*Lithuanian Jews on Postage Stamps ~ Ben Shahn 1898-1969*:
"The painter, muralist, and printmaker, Ben Shahn, who was born in 1898
in Kovno, Russia (now Kaunas, Lithuania), into a family of Jewish
craftsmen, moved with his family to New York City in 1906. "
To find out more about this great 20th century modern painter,
calligrapher, and muralist please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/BenShahn.htm
And to read the wealth of additional articles available to you via the
LitvakSIG Online Journal, please consult the Table of Contents at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/journal.htm
I hope to see many of you in Toronto.
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan, Editor LitvakSIG Online Journal


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen E-Publication: Ben Shahn 1898-1969 #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
The LitvakSIG Online Journal is pleased to announce the
e-publication of a second article in a series about Lithuanian Jews who
appear on Postage Stamps. As Vitaly Charny writes in the introduction to
*Lithuanian Jews on Postage Stamps ~ Ben Shahn 1898-1969*:
"The painter, muralist, and printmaker, Ben Shahn, who was born in 1898
in Kovno, Russia (now Kaunas, Lithuania), into a family of Jewish
craftsmen, moved with his family to New York City in 1906. "
To find out more about this great 20th century modern painter,
calligrapher, and muralist please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/BenShahn.htm
And to read the wealth of additional articles available to you via the
LitvakSIG Online Journal, please consult the Table of Contents at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/journal.htm
I hope to see many of you in Toronto.
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan, Editor LitvakSIG Online Journal


Identifying siblings in Lodz data #lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Lodz Area Researchers,

Here are some tips on how to identify siblings in the city of Lodz data in
the JRI-Poland database. It became common practice, particularly in the
latter half of the 19th century, to register the births of one's children in
groups. It was not required to register a birth immediately. Here's an
example of group registration in the JRI-Poland data:

KON Ruchla 1901 Birth Akt # 1032
KON Rywka 1901 Birth Akt # 1033
KON Sura 1901 Birth Akt # 1034
KON Frymet 1901 Birth Akt # 1035

One can assume that all of the above are sisters, born in or before 1901, and
that their births were registered with the civil authorities in 1901. There
are two important things to keep in mind when viewing city of Lodz data:

1) The year listed is the year the birth was registered and not necessarily
the actual year of birth. This is particularly true with groups of siblings
registered at one time.
2) Whenever there are consecutive Akt numbers for births with the same
surname in the same year, one can assume these individuals are siblings.

Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Lodz JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives Project Coordinator
Houston, Texas
E-mail: seflaum@...
Internet: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm
Internet: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LDS.htm


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Identifying siblings in Lodz data #lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Lodz Area Researchers,

Here are some tips on how to identify siblings in the city of Lodz data in
the JRI-Poland database. It became common practice, particularly in the
latter half of the 19th century, to register the births of one's children in
groups. It was not required to register a birth immediately. Here's an
example of group registration in the JRI-Poland data:

KON Ruchla 1901 Birth Akt # 1032
KON Rywka 1901 Birth Akt # 1033
KON Sura 1901 Birth Akt # 1034
KON Frymet 1901 Birth Akt # 1035

One can assume that all of the above are sisters, born in or before 1901, and
that their births were registered with the civil authorities in 1901. There
are two important things to keep in mind when viewing city of Lodz data:

1) The year listed is the year the birth was registered and not necessarily
the actual year of birth. This is particularly true with groups of siblings
registered at one time.
2) Whenever there are consecutive Akt numbers for births with the same
surname in the same year, one can assume these individuals are siblings.

Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Lodz JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives Project Coordinator
Houston, Texas
E-mail: seflaum@...
Internet: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm
Internet: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LDS.htm


Lodz PSA 1901 -- now online! #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I am very pleased to announce that indices to 5,890 records city of Lodz
birth, marriage and death records >from the year 1901 have been added to the
JRI-Poland database. This brings to 16,766 the number of indices now online
as part of the Lodz "Seven-Year Initiative" of JRI-Poland. To search these
indices, access the JRI-Poland database >from the home page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/

This database is made possible as part of Phase 2 of the Lodz PSA Project,
also known as the "Seven-Year Initiative," to index city of Lodz records >from
1899 through 1905. With today's addition, this brings to 85,225 the total
number of all indices online for the city of Lodz.

You will be able to obtain copies of the records by simply printing out the
order form on the JRI-Poland web site and mailing it to the Polish State
Archives branch in Lodz.

We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the very generous supporters of this
project. I would also like to express great appreciation to JRI-Poland's
Sheila Salo, Michael Tobias, and Stanley Diamond for their invaluable
assistance and guidance.

Please read on to find out how you can contribute to this important project.

o The "Lodz Seven-Year Initiative"

In an innovative approach, JRI-Poland has launched a project to raise funds
for the time span of 1899-1905 as part of a single project. The advantage of
this approach to you, the researcher, is that you will be asked to support
only one project covering these seven years, rather than a new one each year.

Here's the status of post-1898 Lodz Jewish vital records:

Dates: Location: No. of records Status:

1899-1900 PSA 10,876 records Indexed and online!
1901 Lodz USC 5,890 records Indexed and online!
1902 Lodz USC 6,952 records Available in 2003
1903 Lodz USC 6,405 records Available in 2004
1904 Lodz USC 7,290 records Available in 2005
1905 Lodz USC 6,088 records Available in 2006

The total budget for the "Lodz Seven-Year Initiative" is US$7,500. The
cumulative budget for each year must be met before the data for any
particular year is released to the JRI-Poland database.

Year: Indices: Budget:

Year 1 (2001): 1899-1900 US$2,250
Years 2-6 (2002-2006) 1901-1905 US$1,050 per year
US$7,500 total

Contributions toward meeting the Year 3 budget of US$1,050 (for 1902 indices)
are now being accepted. Whatever you contribute will be very much appreciated
and will help bring us closer to our goal of putting this data online. As in
the past, all individuals (or families) who are able to contribute US$100 or
more to this effort will become eligible to receive the complete database as
an Excel file for personal research. You need only contribute this amount
*once* to receive the databases for 1899-1905 (as each year's data becomes
available and indexing is completed).

A contribution of minimum US$100 will ensure that you receive the data as
soon as it has been indexed, and likely in advance of its general
availability in the JRI-Poland Searchable Database. It will also enable you
to study all the Lodz record indices at once, and perhaps find a family name
whose connection you had forgotten, or to work with the data (for example,
sorting by first name) to search for a grandmother's or great-grandmother's
elusive maiden name.

Contributions towards the Lodz PSA Project, phase 2, are cumulative. Any
amounts you contribute now and in the future will be combined and you will
qualify to receive all Excel files once you reach the $100 threshold. Think
of it as an investment in your family research and in the future of all Lodz
researchers to come!

Your contributions in US Dollars may be mailed to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Rd.
Cheverly, MD 20785
USA

Visa contributions may be phoned to Sheila at (301) 341-1261. Or print out
the form at http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm by clicking on the VISA
Card and fax or mail it to Sheila. The fax number is also (301) 341-1261.
(8:00 AM to 8:00 PM Eastern time only, please.)

For those of you living outside the United States, VISA will convert your US
Dollars contribution to your local currency. However, please identify the
amount of your contribution in US Dollars. Special arrangements have been
made to also accept bank checks in your local currency. Please email me for
further details: seflaum@...

ALL CONTRIBUTIONS SHOULD BE MARKED "FOR LODZ 7-YEAR INITIATIVE." If you send
a check, please write this on the face of the check.

Please give what you can so that all current and future generations of Lodz
researchers can benefit >from this project.

JRI-Poland is a nonprofit tax-exempt organization under Section 501(c)(3) of
the U.S. Internal Revenue Code. The JRI-Poland web site, mailing list, and
database are hosted by JewishGen.

Updates on the Lodz Seven-Year Initiative are available at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm
click on "Status Report: PSA Projects Underway," which is the last line in
the heading of this page. On the Status Report page, click "Lodz (phase 2)"
in the dropdown menu.

Sincerely,

Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Lodz Town Leader
Lodz PSA / JRI-Poland Project Coordinator
Seflaum@...
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/LDS.htm


JRI Poland #Poland Lodz PSA 1901 -- now online! #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I am very pleased to announce that indices to 5,890 records city of Lodz
birth, marriage and death records >from the year 1901 have been added to the
JRI-Poland database. This brings to 16,766 the number of indices now online
as part of the Lodz "Seven-Year Initiative" of JRI-Poland. To search these
indices, access the JRI-Poland database >from the home page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/

This database is made possible as part of Phase 2 of the Lodz PSA Project,
also known as the "Seven-Year Initiative," to index city of Lodz records >from
1899 through 1905. With today's addition, this brings to 85,225 the total
number of all indices online for the city of Lodz.

You will be able to obtain copies of the records by simply printing out the
order form on the JRI-Poland web site and mailing it to the Polish State
Archives branch in Lodz.

We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the very generous supporters of this
project. I would also like to express great appreciation to JRI-Poland's
Sheila Salo, Michael Tobias, and Stanley Diamond for their invaluable
assistance and guidance.

Please read on to find out how you can contribute to this important project.

o The "Lodz Seven-Year Initiative"

In an innovative approach, JRI-Poland has launched a project to raise funds
for the time span of 1899-1905 as part of a single project. The advantage of
this approach to you, the researcher, is that you will be asked to support
only one project covering these seven years, rather than a new one each year.

Here's the status of post-1898 Lodz Jewish vital records:

Dates: Location: No. of records Status:

1899-1900 PSA 10,876 records Indexed and online!
1901 Lodz USC 5,890 records Indexed and online!
1902 Lodz USC 6,952 records Available in 2003
1903 Lodz USC 6,405 records Available in 2004
1904 Lodz USC 7,290 records Available in 2005
1905 Lodz USC 6,088 records Available in 2006

The total budget for the "Lodz Seven-Year Initiative" is US$7,500. The
cumulative budget for each year must be met before the data for any
particular year is released to the JRI-Poland database.

Year: Indices: Budget:

Year 1 (2001): 1899-1900 US$2,250
Years 2-6 (2002-2006) 1901-1905 US$1,050 per year
US$7,500 total

Contributions toward meeting the Year 3 budget of US$1,050 (for 1902 indices)
are now being accepted. Whatever you contribute will be very much appreciated
and will help bring us closer to our goal of putting this data online. As in
the past, all individuals (or families) who are able to contribute US$100 or
more to this effort will become eligible to receive the complete database as
an Excel file for personal research. You need only contribute this amount
*once* to receive the databases for 1899-1905 (as each year's data becomes
available and indexing is completed).

A contribution of minimum US$100 will ensure that you receive the data as
soon as it has been indexed, and likely in advance of its general
availability in the JRI-Poland Searchable Database. It will also enable you
to study all the Lodz record indices at once, and perhaps find a family name
whose connection you had forgotten, or to work with the data (for example,
sorting by first name) to search for a grandmother's or great-grandmother's
elusive maiden name.

Contributions towards the Lodz PSA Project, phase 2, are cumulative. Any
amounts you contribute now and in the future will be combined and you will
qualify to receive all Excel files once you reach the $100 threshold. Think
of it as an investment in your family research and in the future of all Lodz
researchers to come!

Your contributions in US Dollars may be mailed to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Rd.
Cheverly, MD 20785
USA

Visa contributions may be phoned to Sheila at (301) 341-1261. Or print out
the form at http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm by clicking on the VISA
Card and fax or mail it to Sheila. The fax number is also (301) 341-1261.
(8:00 AM to 8:00 PM Eastern time only, please.)

For those of you living outside the United States, VISA will convert your US
Dollars contribution to your local currency. However, please identify the
amount of your contribution in US Dollars. Special arrangements have been
made to also accept bank checks in your local currency. Please email me for
further details: seflaum@...

ALL CONTRIBUTIONS SHOULD BE MARKED "FOR LODZ 7-YEAR INITIATIVE." If you send
a check, please write this on the face of the check.

Please give what you can so that all current and future generations of Lodz
researchers can benefit >from this project.

JRI-Poland is a nonprofit tax-exempt organization under Section 501(c)(3) of
the U.S. Internal Revenue Code. The JRI-Poland web site, mailing list, and
database are hosted by JewishGen.

Updates on the Lodz Seven-Year Initiative are available at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm
click on "Status Report: PSA Projects Underway," which is the last line in
the heading of this page. On the Status Report page, click "Lodz (phase 2)"
in the dropdown menu.

Sincerely,

Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Lodz Town Leader
Lodz PSA / JRI-Poland Project Coordinator
Seflaum@...
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/LDS.htm


Re: Destruction of genealogical records in the temple #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

How far back you can go depends on many things. In trying to go back to the
temple in Jerusalem, a big problem is that no one had birth certificates in
the middle ages, so genealogy depends on different, less precise, sources.
I can remember in Avotayu many years ago, there was a series of articles on
the descent of Rashi-with maybe 10 different version. The result is that
none of them was without problems. Some of the terms which we would take
for *grandfather* for example, could be more loosely interpreted, and the
dates of certain, well known, rabbis were not in the realm of possibility
(so-and-so the father of someone 200 years later). The result was that no
one could *prove* anything. It may certainly be that we are all descended
from Rashi, but we cannot prove it (M. Bernet discovered that it is likely
we are all of us descended >from any person in the middle ages or before-if
any of us are).

There are family trees, showing that the kings of England and other
countries are descended >from Adam and Eve and other such things. But the
English one was put together in the 18th century (I think, it may have been
17th or 19th) out of *whole cloth*. And for those of us who do not believe
in the literal truth of the Bible, we would not necessarily believe in the
literal truth of the genealogy in it.

Yes, I know I will get lots of hate mail for this.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


Re: In need of tips...old photographs #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

I think *J. Chonovitz,* and *M. Xonoburr* are the same person, Alex.. In
the Cyrillic alphabet, the CH is spelled with an X and the 'rr' is probably
a 'tz', not an rr which it looks like. There is probably a tail on the
'rr'. And what looks like a b is a v. So, you are right, the name on the
photo is the photographer, and so is the stamp on the back. In Polish
Russia, both were used.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


1910 Census for Pennsylvania #general

OneTess@...
 

Is there a way to access this census without paying and arm and a leg? I
have one name I want to look up, but on-line it appears that I would have to
pay quite a bit just for that access. Thanks for any help!

Sharon Tessler
searching BERTENTHAL, SCLARENCO


Glick #general

Sy Pearlman <SYPEARLMAN@...>
 

I sent an e-mail to "cglick@...". It was returned. Does anyone know the
correct e-mail for this person.
Regards, Sy of New York
(sypearlman@...)

Researching: PEARLMAN (Bialystok), ETKUS, ROSACHOTSKY, SANDEROVICH,
SEGALOVICH & SKOVRONEK (Lomza,Ciechanowiec,Wysokie Mazowieckie);
KUNOFSKY,LEVINE & KANTROWITZ (Uzda,Nesvizh in Belarus); BERNBACH &
HACKEL (Ulanow,Poland); MUNTZER (Glebowice,Poland); TREITELMAN &
KAMINER (Odessa & Kishinev); KRULL (Warsaw & Otvotsk)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Destruction of genealogical records in the temple #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

How far back you can go depends on many things. In trying to go back to the
temple in Jerusalem, a big problem is that no one had birth certificates in
the middle ages, so genealogy depends on different, less precise, sources.
I can remember in Avotayu many years ago, there was a series of articles on
the descent of Rashi-with maybe 10 different version. The result is that
none of them was without problems. Some of the terms which we would take
for *grandfather* for example, could be more loosely interpreted, and the
dates of certain, well known, rabbis were not in the realm of possibility
(so-and-so the father of someone 200 years later). The result was that no
one could *prove* anything. It may certainly be that we are all descended
from Rashi, but we cannot prove it (M. Bernet discovered that it is likely
we are all of us descended >from any person in the middle ages or before-if
any of us are).

There are family trees, showing that the kings of England and other
countries are descended >from Adam and Eve and other such things. But the
English one was put together in the 18th century (I think, it may have been
17th or 19th) out of *whole cloth*. And for those of us who do not believe
in the literal truth of the Bible, we would not necessarily believe in the
literal truth of the genealogy in it.

Yes, I know I will get lots of hate mail for this.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: In need of tips...old photographs #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

I think *J. Chonovitz,* and *M. Xonoburr* are the same person, Alex.. In
the Cyrillic alphabet, the CH is spelled with an X and the 'rr' is probably
a 'tz', not an rr which it looks like. There is probably a tail on the
'rr'. And what looks like a b is a v. So, you are right, the name on the
photo is the photographer, and so is the stamp on the back. In Polish
Russia, both were used.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY