Looks like Steve Morse has done it again. I just visited his Ellis Island
Jewish-Passenger website and discovered that he has incorporated the ability to sort the text version of the manifest by line numbers.

The Ellis Island folks used to sort it that way initially (that
certainly makes the most sense) but many months ago they made a change
and the passengers are now displayed in a random order. For the life of
me, I can't understand why they did that.

What Steve has done (the work was actually done by a computer genius in
Switzerland -- Yves Goulnik) is to intercept the text manifest that the
Ellis Island site sends back and re-sort it so that the passengers are
in the right order.

To see this in action, go to Steve's Jewish-passenger search form:

http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellisjw.html

and do a search. When you get the results you'll see a link that says
"text manifest" and another that says "text manifest (sorted)".

Clicking on the first link gives the text manifest that the Ellis Island
site created and the second link gives Yves' rearrangement of the
manifest.

So far this only works if you access the text manifest starting from
Steve's blue (Jewish Passenger) search form. But when I asked about
that, Steve said that Yves is currently looking into extending that to
work with the white (all passenger) search form as well.

If you have any questions regarding this new feature, please send your
inquiries directly to Steve Morse as I have no expertise or any information
about it.

Good luck!

Diane Jacobs
New York

Looks like Steve Morse has done it again. I just visited his Ellis Island
Jewish-Passenger website and discovered that he has incorporated the ability to sort the text version of the manifest by line numbers.

The Ellis Island folks used to sort it that way initially (that
certainly makes the most sense) but many months ago they made a change
and the passengers are now displayed in a random order. For the life of
me, I can't understand why they did that.

What Steve has done (the work was actually done by a computer genius in
Switzerland -- Yves Goulnik) is to intercept the text manifest that the
Ellis Island site sends back and re-sort it so that the passengers are
in the right order.

To see this in action, go to Steve's Jewish-passenger search form:

http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellisjw.html

and do a search. When you get the results you'll see a link that says
"text manifest" and another that says "text manifest (sorted)".

Clicking on the first link gives the text manifest that the Ellis Island
site created and the second link gives Yves' rearrangement of the
manifest.

So far this only works if you access the text manifest starting from
Steve's blue (Jewish Passenger) search form. But when I asked about
that, Steve said that Yves is currently looking into extending that to
work with the white (all passenger) search form as well.

If you have any questions regarding this new feature, please send your
inquiries directly to Steve Morse as I have no expertise or any information
about it.

Good luck!

Diane Jacobs
New York

Does anyone have any details of the lineage of Abraham Cahan, the noted
founding editor of the New York Jewish Forward newspaper? I am
particularly interested in finding out the names of his grandparents,
as well as other family members >from that generation and earlier
generations.

I have consulted many of the available biographical references for
Cahan, and have found full details of his parents' names, but have
found nothing about his grandparents or other ancestors.

Thanks for any help!

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA

Does anyone have any details of the lineage of Abraham Cahan, the noted
founding editor of the New York Jewish Forward newspaper? I am
particularly interested in finding out the names of his grandparents,
as well as other family members >from that generation and earlier
generations.

I have consulted many of the available biographical references for
Cahan, and have found full details of his parents' names, but have
found nothing about his grandparents or other ancestors.

Thanks for any help!

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA

Sorry to bother the group with this but I would like
to tell my cousin about recent finds.

I believe Arthur Blutstein lives in Boca Raton, FL

Anita Frankel frankel2@mindspring.com
Storrs, CT USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately

Sorry to bother the group with this but I would like
to tell my cousin about recent finds.

I believe Arthur Blutstein lives in Boca Raton, FL

Anita Frankel frankel2@mindspring.com
Storrs, CT USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately

Heinrich PFANN >from Mainz (Germany), born 1851, emigrated to Cincinnati
in 1869.
His sister Emma PFANN (born Mainz 1847) and her husband Heinrich KLEIN
from
Meisenheim, married 1868, emigrated to Cincinnati, probably at the same
time.

Any idea how to learn more about them ? Please respond privately
ernest.kallmann@wanadoo.fr

Ernest KALLMANN
Suburban Paris, France

My great-grandfather, Wolf KOHLHAGEN, came to the United States in
the 1850's and worked as a clock and watch repairman and peddler in
the vicinity of Rutland. According to my father, he lived with
distant relatives named Mineberg -- I have never found that name
anywhere!
According to family stories, Wolf returned to Germany in the early
1860's because his brother had died and he felt an obligation to help
the widow. He married and stayed in Germany.
My questions are:
1. Where would one find the steamship records for someone leaving
the U.S. and returning to Germany?
2. >from anecdotes, how common was this scenario? Did some German
Jews return for one reason or another?
3. Assuming he missed both the 1850 and 1860 censuses, where else
might I find a record of his brief stay in Vermont?
Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
San Antonio, TX
hlb@texas.net
--

Heinrich PFANN >from Mainz (Germany), born 1851, emigrated to Cincinnati
in 1869.
His sister Emma PFANN (born Mainz 1847) and her husband Heinrich KLEIN
from
Meisenheim, married 1868, emigrated to Cincinnati, probably at the same
time.

Any idea how to learn more about them ? Please respond privately
ernest.kallmann@wanadoo.fr

Ernest KALLMANN
Suburban Paris, France

My great-grandfather, Wolf KOHLHAGEN, came to the United States in
the 1850's and worked as a clock and watch repairman and peddler in
the vicinity of Rutland. According to my father, he lived with
distant relatives named Mineberg -- I have never found that name
anywhere!
According to family stories, Wolf returned to Germany in the early
1860's because his brother had died and he felt an obligation to help
the widow. He married and stayed in Germany.
My questions are:
1. Where would one find the steamship records for someone leaving
the U.S. and returning to Germany?
2. >from anecdotes, how common was this scenario? Did some German
Jews return for one reason or another?
3. Assuming he missed both the 1850 and 1860 censuses, where else
might I find a record of his brief stay in Vermont?
Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
San Antonio, TX
hlb@texas.net
--

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Hi:

I am 99% sure it was in Podolia.

Regards,

Alan Shefman

Yv Goulnik wrote:

Hi:

I am 99% sure it was in Podolia.

Regards,

Alan Shefman

Yv Goulnik wrote:

<< Subject: EIDB ship date discrepancy

...The original manifest is missing >from this site, and I have found two
different dates for the arrival of the ship. EIDB says that the Batavia arrived
April 24, 1906. The Morton Allan directory says the ship arrived April 21,
1906.>>

I responded to Haviva about this and she suggested I alert the group.

This is a no-brainer. If you have the new issue of Avotaynu, you'll find my
article about using the entire backfile of The New York Times, now available

from ProQuest at many educational institutions and library systems (including

the Library of Congress--on every reading room terminal!). Not only articles
are scanned, but EVERYTHING: want ads, display ads, birth notices, death
notices, marriage announcements, engagement announcements (some for weddings
that never occurred), and, of course, SHIPPING ARRIVALS. I merely typed in
Batavia and set the date delimiter for anything prior to April 30, 1906 (in
case of a delay in posting to the paper). The issue of April 22, 1906, p. XX2,
showed that the ship had arrived on the 21st. Better yet, I was able to email
the graphic of that item to Haviva as a pdf file.

This is just one of the many handy uses of this great new resource.

Elias Savada
Co-Chair, 2003 IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy

<< Subject: EIDB ship date discrepancy

...The original manifest is missing >from this site, and I have found two
different dates for the arrival of the ship. EIDB says that the Batavia arrived
April 24, 1906. The Morton Allan directory says the ship arrived April 21,
1906.>>

I responded to Haviva about this and she suggested I alert the group.

This is a no-brainer. If you have the new issue of Avotaynu, you'll find my
article about using the entire backfile of The New York Times, now available

from ProQuest at many educational institutions and library systems (including

the Library of Congress--on every reading room terminal!). Not only articles
are scanned, but EVERYTHING: want ads, display ads, birth notices, death
notices, marriage announcements, engagement announcements (some for weddings
that never occurred), and, of course, SHIPPING ARRIVALS. I merely typed in
Batavia and set the date delimiter for anything prior to April 30, 1906 (in
case of a delay in posting to the paper). The issue of April 22, 1906, p. XX2,
showed that the ship had arrived on the 21st. Better yet, I was able to email
the graphic of that item to Haviva as a pdf file.

This is just one of the many handy uses of this great new resource.

Elias Savada
Co-Chair, 2003 IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy

Since so many of you are still in "vacation mode" or preparing for the
holidays you might not have taken advantage of the 10% discount on
everything we offer in the JewishGenMall. We have extended the
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holidays.

We invite each and every JewishGenner to take advantage of the extra time
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on "Search" at the bottom of the page and then typing in any category that
interests you such as Genealogy, Holocaust, Lithuania, New York, etc.,
etc. If you are not familiar with an online shopping environment, click
on the FAQ first and read up on how best to use the program.

On behalf of all of us who work behind the scenes here at JewishGen, a
Happy and Healthy New Year to all of you.

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
JewishGenMall

Since so many of you are still in "vacation mode" or preparing for the
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holidays.

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On my great-aunt Clara GRANITUR's US Social Security record
her parents are given as Eli YAROSHEVSKY and Bessie
SHAPOCHNIKOW. She was born in 1890 in Odessa, not far >from Crimea.

Ric Cooper
Gosport, UK
ADLER & FINKELSTEIN >from Ternopil
ANAPOLSKY >from Dnepropetrovsk
BORENSTEIN , MATELEVITCH & GODZINSKI >from Warszawa
LEZTER & SALENDER >from Rzeszow
MILLET >from Dabrowa Tarnowska
YAROSHEVSKY & SHAPOCHNICOW >from Odessa

On my great-aunt Clara GRANITUR's US Social Security record
her parents are given as Eli YAROSHEVSKY and Bessie
SHAPOCHNIKOW. She was born in 1890 in Odessa, not far >from Crimea.

Ric Cooper
Gosport, UK
ADLER & FINKELSTEIN >from Ternopil
ANAPOLSKY >from Dnepropetrovsk
BORENSTEIN , MATELEVITCH & GODZINSKI >from Warszawa
LEZTER & SALENDER >from Rzeszow
MILLET >from Dabrowa Tarnowska
YAROSHEVSKY & SHAPOCHNICOW >from Odessa