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Re: How to obtain Jewish Records from Polish USC offices #general

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Thank you Brian for your very detailed and complete explanation
of ordering record extracts >from the Warsaw USC. Your discussion,
along with the excellent JewishGen Infofile, *Vital Records in
Poland* by Warren Blatt, available at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/polandv.html>, are very
helpful for Poland and Galician researchers.

I just want to clarify a few points:

1. When you order a *record* >from any USC office in Poland, you
**Do Not** receive a copy of the original record. You will
receive an Official stamped extract containing the important
items in the original record. I think this is the same official
record that is provided to a Polish citizen for civil purposes.
It is important to know that this extract will not usually
include all the information available in the actual entry of the
vital record register.

2. Records for Eastern Galician towns, most of them currently in
Ukraine, are housed at two Archives in Warsaw. Vital record
registers that contain records that are all over 100 years old
are housed at the AGAD Archives. Vital record registers
containing any records that are 100 years old or less are housed
at the Warsaw USC (Civil Records Office). When a register
contains only records that are over 100 years old they are
transferred >from USC to AGAD. These AGAD records are available to
the public for research and are being indexed by Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland.

3. Others have more experience than I, but my experience in
dealing with USC offices in Poland is mixed. Some require more
specific information that others. Some respond promptly, others
do not. But one thing is true, the USC offices are not Archives
and do not perform research. As Brain points out, you must be as
specific as possible about the record extract you request -- full
name of subject with spelling variations, date of event as
specific as possible, father's and/or mother's name, and, of
course, town name.

Mark Halpern

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Stern" <brians@...>
I have sent several requests to the USC offices in Poland to
obtain Jewish
Metrical records and have successfully received records back.
This
document describes what I did and hopefully can help others to
obtain their
family records as well.

I have only written to the USC in Warsaw and asked for Eastern
Galician
records that they hold. Other USC offices may respond
differently. I have
obtained birth, marriage, and death records >from the era of
about 1905 -
1940. You should consult one of Miriam Wiener's books for the
holdings of
the various USC offices and for their addresses.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to obtain Jewish Records from Polish USC offices #general

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Thank you Brian for your very detailed and complete explanation
of ordering record extracts >from the Warsaw USC. Your discussion,
along with the excellent JewishGen Infofile, *Vital Records in
Poland* by Warren Blatt, available at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/polandv.html>, are very
helpful for Poland and Galician researchers.

I just want to clarify a few points:

1. When you order a *record* >from any USC office in Poland, you
**Do Not** receive a copy of the original record. You will
receive an Official stamped extract containing the important
items in the original record. I think this is the same official
record that is provided to a Polish citizen for civil purposes.
It is important to know that this extract will not usually
include all the information available in the actual entry of the
vital record register.

2. Records for Eastern Galician towns, most of them currently in
Ukraine, are housed at two Archives in Warsaw. Vital record
registers that contain records that are all over 100 years old
are housed at the AGAD Archives. Vital record registers
containing any records that are 100 years old or less are housed
at the Warsaw USC (Civil Records Office). When a register
contains only records that are over 100 years old they are
transferred >from USC to AGAD. These AGAD records are available to
the public for research and are being indexed by Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland.

3. Others have more experience than I, but my experience in
dealing with USC offices in Poland is mixed. Some require more
specific information that others. Some respond promptly, others
do not. But one thing is true, the USC offices are not Archives
and do not perform research. As Brain points out, you must be as
specific as possible about the record extract you request -- full
name of subject with spelling variations, date of event as
specific as possible, father's and/or mother's name, and, of
course, town name.

Mark Halpern

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Stern" <brians@...>
I have sent several requests to the USC offices in Poland to
obtain Jewish
Metrical records and have successfully received records back.
This
document describes what I did and hopefully can help others to
obtain their
family records as well.

I have only written to the USC in Warsaw and asked for Eastern
Galician
records that they hold. Other USC offices may respond
differently. I have
obtained birth, marriage, and death records >from the era of
about 1905 -
1940. You should consult one of Miriam Wiener's books for the
holdings of
the various USC offices and for their addresses.


1910 business establishment #general

ldashman@...
 

In the 1910 US census, one of my great-uncles is listed as a driver for "----ess-o",
this being the entry in column 19 (i.e. General nature of industry, business
or establishment)and the only letters that are clearly legible. Can anyone
explain or guess what this entry would be?

Best wishes,
Lisa Dashman
Croton-on-Hudson, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1910 business establishment #general

ldashman@...
 

In the 1910 US census, one of my great-uncles is listed as a driver for "----ess-o",
this being the entry in column 19 (i.e. General nature of industry, business
or establishment)and the only letters that are clearly legible. Can anyone
explain or guess what this entry would be?

Best wishes,
Lisa Dashman
Croton-on-Hudson, NY


Clarification: Claim extension against banks in France #general

Marilyn Sheridan <marilyns@...>
 

Sorry, Genners! The complete text of the message in WJC abstracts is:

*Claim Extension: The deadline for claims against French banks, >from Jews
who say their accounts were frozen under the Nazi occupation, has been
extended by six months - to January 18, 2003.
Under the agreement, French banks will create two funds: an unlimited escrow
account to reimburse people with evidence that they or their relatives had
bank accounts; and a capped fund of about $22.5 million to compensate those
without evidence.*

At what e-mail or snail-mail address can I contact these claims people?

Yesterday, I also asked the WJC by e-mail. I will pass any WJC information
on to the Discussion Group and to FrenchSIG.

Marilyn Sheridan
Tucson, AZ, USA


Subject: Re: Extension of claims deadline
From: "Stephen G. Esrati" <steve@...>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:29:59 -0400


What claims are you referring to?

If you are referring to the claims against Switzerland for the stolen
"dormant accounts" in Swiss banks, you need to look at:
http://www.crt-ii.org/
Click on English, then go to one of the clickable links. But I know of
no extensions here.


Shuls in Kensington, London #general

David Kravitz
 

I am having little joy in tracing a possible relative Cecil Kravitz, or his
family. I know he was registered as born in Kensington in 1915, so he must
have lived in the parish. Could anyone advise what shuls existed in
Kensington about this time and where I might trace the records of his
parents, and possibly his, membership?

David Kravitz
Bournemouth
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Clarification: Claim extension against banks in France #general

Marilyn Sheridan <marilyns@...>
 

Sorry, Genners! The complete text of the message in WJC abstracts is:

*Claim Extension: The deadline for claims against French banks, >from Jews
who say their accounts were frozen under the Nazi occupation, has been
extended by six months - to January 18, 2003.
Under the agreement, French banks will create two funds: an unlimited escrow
account to reimburse people with evidence that they or their relatives had
bank accounts; and a capped fund of about $22.5 million to compensate those
without evidence.*

At what e-mail or snail-mail address can I contact these claims people?

Yesterday, I also asked the WJC by e-mail. I will pass any WJC information
on to the Discussion Group and to FrenchSIG.

Marilyn Sheridan
Tucson, AZ, USA


Subject: Re: Extension of claims deadline
From: "Stephen G. Esrati" <steve@...>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:29:59 -0400


What claims are you referring to?

If you are referring to the claims against Switzerland for the stolen
"dormant accounts" in Swiss banks, you need to look at:
http://www.crt-ii.org/
Click on English, then go to one of the clickable links. But I know of
no extensions here.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Shuls in Kensington, London #general

David Kravitz
 

I am having little joy in tracing a possible relative Cecil Kravitz, or his
family. I know he was registered as born in Kensington in 1915, so he must
have lived in the parish. Could anyone advise what shuls existed in
Kensington about this time and where I might trace the records of his
parents, and possibly his, membership?

David Kravitz
Bournemouth
England


Debrecen and Szombathely #hungary

Joyce Field
 

The Debrecen and Szombathely lists would not have appeared in the
JewishGen Holocaust
Database,<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/>, without the
guidance of Rachel Reisman, Technical Coordinator for the Yad Vashem
Project and other file searchable >from the Holocaust Database, and
the technical skills of Warren Blatt and Michael Tobias. There is
much behind the scenes team work required to get these files >from
paper records into a searchable database, and I wanted appropriate
recognition to be given to all. In addition, JewishGen should be
applauded for its efforts to put online these important Holocaust
records.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Research
jfield@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary Debrecen and Szombathely #hungary

Joyce Field
 

The Debrecen and Szombathely lists would not have appeared in the
JewishGen Holocaust
Database,<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/>, without the
guidance of Rachel Reisman, Technical Coordinator for the Yad Vashem
Project and other file searchable >from the Holocaust Database, and
the technical skills of Warren Blatt and Michael Tobias. There is
much behind the scenes team work required to get these files >from
paper records into a searchable database, and I wanted appropriate
recognition to be given to all. In addition, JewishGen should be
applauded for its efforts to put online these important Holocaust
records.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Research
jfield@...


LURIE to JACOBS Marriage #lithuania

Stanley Judd <stanleyjudd@...>
 

I have a handwritten copy of a Certificate of Marriage by the United States
Counsulate at Jerusalem dated September 2, 1895. This should be of interest if the newlyweds are >from your family or it you may have family members who could have been married by a Consul.

It reads as follows: "I, Edwin L Wallace, Consul of the United States at
Jerusalem, do hereby certify that on this second day of September 1895 at
Jerusalem, Barnet Lurie, aged 53 years, a naturalized citizen of the United
States of America formerly of New York and now residing in Jerusalem, and
Rachel Leah Jacobs aged 38 years born in Russia and now residing in
Jerusalem were united in marriage before me, by myself, who am authorized by the Laws of the United States to perform such ceremony. In witness whereof I have hereinto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the Consulate at Jerusalem, this second day of September 1895, and of the Independence of the US the one humdred and ninteenth."


Stanley H. Judd Los Altos Hills, CA
Searching JUDELOWITZ/YUDELOWITZ, BRILLIANT, JANKOWSKY, ROTCHILD, BAER
Locations northern Lithuania and Latvia


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania LURIE to JACOBS Marriage #lithuania

Stanley Judd <stanleyjudd@...>
 

I have a handwritten copy of a Certificate of Marriage by the United States
Counsulate at Jerusalem dated September 2, 1895. This should be of interest if the newlyweds are >from your family or it you may have family members who could have been married by a Consul.

It reads as follows: "I, Edwin L Wallace, Consul of the United States at
Jerusalem, do hereby certify that on this second day of September 1895 at
Jerusalem, Barnet Lurie, aged 53 years, a naturalized citizen of the United
States of America formerly of New York and now residing in Jerusalem, and
Rachel Leah Jacobs aged 38 years born in Russia and now residing in
Jerusalem were united in marriage before me, by myself, who am authorized by the Laws of the United States to perform such ceremony. In witness whereof I have hereinto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the Consulate at Jerusalem, this second day of September 1895, and of the Independence of the US the one humdred and ninteenth."


Stanley H. Judd Los Altos Hills, CA
Searching JUDELOWITZ/YUDELOWITZ, BRILLIANT, JANKOWSKY, ROTCHILD, BAER
Locations northern Lithuania and Latvia


EIDB Success! #lithuania

Lestsmith@...
 

Last night, at approximately midnight, I achieved an objective which was
beyond comprehension just a little over a year ago. I located the passenger manifest for cousin Roche Schmelisky, the last of the twenty-eight relatives known to have arrived in the US between 1893 and 1913. I now have them all; including my three immigrant grandparents, my father, eight aunts and uncles, four adult cousins and twelve minor cousins.

Substantial thanks must go to the Ellis Island Foundation, to the thousands of LDS volunteers who struggled with names they never knew existed, and to Steve Morse for his magnificent and versatile site. Still, it took time, patience, hard work, creativity and a fair amount of yiddish luck. The transcribed spellings of the family names and places were all over the place (of course), the manifest images were not always where they were supposed to be, and in one instance I had to resort to old-fashioned microfilm to get the image. So, keep trying. It can be done.

See you in Toronto.

Lester Smith
Sacramento

Searching: SCHUMELISKY and GERSHOWIITZ >from Oshmina Uyzed,
DAVIDSON >from Vishnevo
ROSENBLUM AND SKLARSKY >from Vilkaviskis


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania EIDB Success! #lithuania

Lestsmith@...
 

Last night, at approximately midnight, I achieved an objective which was
beyond comprehension just a little over a year ago. I located the passenger manifest for cousin Roche Schmelisky, the last of the twenty-eight relatives known to have arrived in the US between 1893 and 1913. I now have them all; including my three immigrant grandparents, my father, eight aunts and uncles, four adult cousins and twelve minor cousins.

Substantial thanks must go to the Ellis Island Foundation, to the thousands of LDS volunteers who struggled with names they never knew existed, and to Steve Morse for his magnificent and versatile site. Still, it took time, patience, hard work, creativity and a fair amount of yiddish luck. The transcribed spellings of the family names and places were all over the place (of course), the manifest images were not always where they were supposed to be, and in one instance I had to resort to old-fashioned microfilm to get the image. So, keep trying. It can be done.

See you in Toronto.

Lester Smith
Sacramento

Searching: SCHUMELISKY and GERSHOWIITZ >from Oshmina Uyzed,
DAVIDSON >from Vishnevo
ROSENBLUM AND SKLARSKY >from Vilkaviskis


Re: Feeling Overwhelmed #general

Judith27
 

Dear Marilyn,
Since you have Family Tree Maker, I would suggest starting a
separate FTM file that you name Other Milgroms. You can keep the information
you receive about different Milgroms there, separate >from your main FTM file
for your known blood kin.
I have separate FTM files for friends (when they have 8 and 9 kids
it helps to have a FTM file), Shakespeare's genealogy, and occasionally for a
client's family so I can keep track of the data I am amassing on relatives
that aren't *mine.* Conceivably, this same concept should work with other
genealogy programs.
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan
Long Beach, NY

"marife" < marife@... > writes:
<< How do I begin? I am quickly getting information in bits and
pieces about my MILGROM relatives in Tulcin. My question is, since I have
not yet established how I am related to these Milgroms and how the
different Milgrom's connect to one another, what is the best way of
keeping track of all this information. I have Family Tree Maker. Would
that be a good way to store the info? I don't want to add these folks to
my tree until I am certain they are my relatives. Thanks for your
suggestions. Marilyn Feingold >>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Feeling Overwhelmed #general

Judith27
 

Dear Marilyn,
Since you have Family Tree Maker, I would suggest starting a
separate FTM file that you name Other Milgroms. You can keep the information
you receive about different Milgroms there, separate >from your main FTM file
for your known blood kin.
I have separate FTM files for friends (when they have 8 and 9 kids
it helps to have a FTM file), Shakespeare's genealogy, and occasionally for a
client's family so I can keep track of the data I am amassing on relatives
that aren't *mine.* Conceivably, this same concept should work with other
genealogy programs.
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan
Long Beach, NY

"marife" < marife@... > writes:
<< How do I begin? I am quickly getting information in bits and
pieces about my MILGROM relatives in Tulcin. My question is, since I have
not yet established how I am related to these Milgroms and how the
different Milgrom's connect to one another, what is the best way of
keeping track of all this information. I have Family Tree Maker. Would
that be a good way to store the info? I don't want to add these folks to
my tree until I am certain they are my relatives. Thanks for your
suggestions. Marilyn Feingold >>


What To Do With Trip Reports #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

There has been some discussion about how to handle trip reports. Here is
what I suggest. When you come back >from a trip to Belarus, please post a
brief overview about your trip. Then write a more detailed account and
submit it along with photos (in digital format) to Fran Bock
<franbock@...>, our new Newsletter Editor. Be sure to include
captions for each photo. The trip report with photos will be placed in the
Belarus On Line Newsletter. Appropriate links will be made on the Shtetls
of Belarus pages as well as in the Belarus Resources section if the article
provides "how to" information.

I urge all of you who have made trips in the past and who have not submitted
a report of your trip to do so. We learn >from each other!

Dave

--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus What To Do With Trip Reports #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

There has been some discussion about how to handle trip reports. Here is
what I suggest. When you come back >from a trip to Belarus, please post a
brief overview about your trip. Then write a more detailed account and
submit it along with photos (in digital format) to Fran Bock
<franbock@...>, our new Newsletter Editor. Be sure to include
captions for each photo. The trip report with photos will be placed in the
Belarus On Line Newsletter. Appropriate links will be made on the Shtetls
of Belarus pages as well as in the Belarus Resources section if the article
provides "how to" information.

I urge all of you who have made trips in the past and who have not submitted
a report of your trip to do so. We learn >from each other!

Dave

--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Announcement: New Belarus SIG Newsletter Editor- Fran Bock #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

I am very please to announce that Fran Bock is the new Newsletter editor for
the Belarus SIG. Fran is a retired college professor who has published many
articles and co-authored a book. She is currently the editor of another
newsletter and has extensive computer experience and knowledge. The SIG is
very fortunate to have found such a highly talented individual to be our
Newsletter editor.

If anyone has articles about trips to Belarus, family memoirs about life in
Belarus shtetls, famous Jews >from Belarus, or any other subjects about
Belarus, please send them to Fran at <franbock@...>.

For those of you who are not familiar with the Belarus SIG On Line
Newsletter (BNL), please take a look at all the back articles at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm>. There is much
to learn >from reading these articles.

Thank you Fran for volunteering to take is most important SIG position.

Now we need someone to come forward to volunteer to coordinate all the SIG
Research Projects.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus Announcement: New Belarus SIG Newsletter Editor- Fran Bock #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

I am very please to announce that Fran Bock is the new Newsletter editor for
the Belarus SIG. Fran is a retired college professor who has published many
articles and co-authored a book. She is currently the editor of another
newsletter and has extensive computer experience and knowledge. The SIG is
very fortunate to have found such a highly talented individual to be our
Newsletter editor.

If anyone has articles about trips to Belarus, family memoirs about life in
Belarus shtetls, famous Jews >from Belarus, or any other subjects about
Belarus, please send them to Fran at <franbock@...>.

For those of you who are not familiar with the Belarus SIG On Line
Newsletter (BNL), please take a look at all the back articles at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm>. There is much
to learn >from reading these articles.

Thank you Fran for volunteering to take is most important SIG position.

Now we need someone to come forward to volunteer to coordinate all the SIG
Research Projects.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus