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railroads in Ukraine #ukraine

Brdbrain7@...
 

Witihin the last few weeks there was a question posted re railroad lines
in the Ukraine. Chapter 28 (pp.90-92) of Paul Robert Magosci's Historical
Atlas of East Central Europe (ISBN: 0-8020-0607-8) c. 1993, covers "Canal
and railway development before 1914". Although Kamenets Podolskiy is not
specifically shown on the map on p.91, there is a line Lviv-Ternopol
(1871), Ternopol-Odessa (1875), that must have passed fairly near there.

As I previously wrote: Some time ago a new-found cousin recommended a
book called "The Journeys of David Toback" by Carole Malkin. "It is
wonderful. Not only is it a terrific read, but it has a lot of
information on Proskurov in the late 1800's. You get a real feel for what
the city and the Jewish community was like... " This book will answer
many questions about life in Kaminets Podolskiy area when our ancestors
lived there.

Robin B. Seidenberg

Researching:

BRENNER, ERLICHMAN-Kamenets Podolskiy area (Zinkov, Proskurov, etc.)
BOGOSLOWSKY-Stavisht, Kiev, Ekaterinoslav
WANIEWSKI, WYRZYKIEWICZ- Bialystok-Tykocin area (Lomza gubernia)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine railroads in Ukraine #ukraine

Brdbrain7@...
 

Witihin the last few weeks there was a question posted re railroad lines
in the Ukraine. Chapter 28 (pp.90-92) of Paul Robert Magosci's Historical
Atlas of East Central Europe (ISBN: 0-8020-0607-8) c. 1993, covers "Canal
and railway development before 1914". Although Kamenets Podolskiy is not
specifically shown on the map on p.91, there is a line Lviv-Ternopol
(1871), Ternopol-Odessa (1875), that must have passed fairly near there.

As I previously wrote: Some time ago a new-found cousin recommended a
book called "The Journeys of David Toback" by Carole Malkin. "It is
wonderful. Not only is it a terrific read, but it has a lot of
information on Proskurov in the late 1800's. You get a real feel for what
the city and the Jewish community was like... " This book will answer
many questions about life in Kaminets Podolskiy area when our ancestors
lived there.

Robin B. Seidenberg

Researching:

BRENNER, ERLICHMAN-Kamenets Podolskiy area (Zinkov, Proskurov, etc.)
BOGOSLOWSKY-Stavisht, Kiev, Ekaterinoslav
WANIEWSKI, WYRZYKIEWICZ- Bialystok-Tykocin area (Lomza gubernia)


kleinerman/shpikov #ukraine

Miriam Saltzman <whatever399@...>
 

Hello,

Does anyone know anything about the town Shpikov in the Podolia guberniya.
It is near Kamenets Podolsky, I saw on Map Quest.

Miriam Saltzman
Milwaukee, WI
whatever399@hotmail.com

KLEINERMAN - Shpikov, Ukraine
ROSENBLITT - Russia
ALTSHUL,ALTSHULL - Bobruisk, Belarus
SALTZMAN,TEPER,TEPPER,ORLANSKY - Poland (warsaw,chelm,lodz)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine kleinerman/shpikov #ukraine

Miriam Saltzman <whatever399@...>
 

Hello,

Does anyone know anything about the town Shpikov in the Podolia guberniya.
It is near Kamenets Podolsky, I saw on Map Quest.

Miriam Saltzman
Milwaukee, WI
whatever399@hotmail.com

KLEINERMAN - Shpikov, Ukraine
ROSENBLITT - Russia
ALTSHUL,ALTSHULL - Bobruisk, Belarus
SALTZMAN,TEPER,TEPPER,ORLANSKY - Poland (warsaw,chelm,lodz)


Congregtion of Jacob Synagogue , London #unitedkingdom

Cyril FOX <cyril@...>
 

I am in contact with David Behr , Administrator of the Congregation of Jacob
Synagogue , 351 Commercial Road, London E1 2PS. Tel: 020 7790 3849

He is writing a history of the above synagogue, for its 100th anniversary.

He has invited me , on behalf of the JGSGB, to come down and examine some
old
records and record them where possible. I think his main items are registers
of members' payments , with their names and addresses for 1933 and 1944.

I hope to report on any progress in due course.

In the meantime , if anyone has any information or anecdotes about the
Congregation of Jacob Synagogue/Community , would they kindly get in touch
with David at the above address.



Cyril Fox
Member of Council, JGSGB


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Congregtion of Jacob Synagogue , London #unitedkingdom

Cyril FOX <cyril@...>
 

I am in contact with David Behr , Administrator of the Congregation of Jacob
Synagogue , 351 Commercial Road, London E1 2PS. Tel: 020 7790 3849

He is writing a history of the above synagogue, for its 100th anniversary.

He has invited me , on behalf of the JGSGB, to come down and examine some
old
records and record them where possible. I think his main items are registers
of members' payments , with their names and addresses for 1933 and 1944.

I hope to report on any progress in due course.

In the meantime , if anyone has any information or anecdotes about the
Congregation of Jacob Synagogue/Community , would they kindly get in touch
with David at the above address.



Cyril Fox
Member of Council, JGSGB


Happy New Year #hungary

teddyg1@...
 

Dear Family/Friends,
I wish you all a very Happy Jewish New Year. May all your wishes come true
and Peace should return to our Holy Land.
Sincerly,
Touvia (Teddy) Goldstein
Israel

Queridos familiares y amigos,
Mis mas sinceros deseos de un Feliz Ano Nuevo Judio. Que todos vuestros
deseos se cumplan y que la Paz vuelva a nuestra Tierra Santa.
Sinceramente,
Touvia (Teddy) Goldstein
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Happy New Year #hungary

teddyg1@...
 

Dear Family/Friends,
I wish you all a very Happy Jewish New Year. May all your wishes come true
and Peace should return to our Holy Land.
Sincerly,
Touvia (Teddy) Goldstein
Israel

Queridos familiares y amigos,
Mis mas sinceros deseos de un Feliz Ano Nuevo Judio. Que todos vuestros
deseos se cumplan y que la Paz vuelva a nuestra Tierra Santa.
Sinceramente,
Touvia (Teddy) Goldstein
Israel


Fw: zemplen #hungary

Alex P Miller <alex-miller@...>
 

To all volunteers who worked with me on the Zemplen 1869 project, please
reply to me at this address < alex-miller@juno.com>, as my computer was lost

Thanks

Alex Miller


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fw: zemplen #hungary

Alex P Miller <alex-miller@...>
 

To all volunteers who worked with me on the Zemplen 1869 project, please
reply to me at this address < alex-miller@juno.com>, as my computer was lost

Thanks

Alex Miller


19 century census records #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

Are any of the 19th century Hungarian Jewish census records available on the www?

Attila Rona

Moderator VK: As Jordan Auslander reported in his presentation at the Toronto IAJGS conference, the Austro-Hungarian Empire conducted censuses of Jewish residents in 1725-27, 1735-39, 1743-45, 1767-68, and, of course, 1848. Partial censuses of other counties (e.g. Tolna, Zemplen) exist >from other years. Other national censuses (e.g. 1869) identified the persons enumerated by religion including Jews. Jordan says that some of these records are preserved in regional archjives. I am not aware of any exhaustive listing of repositories of Jewish census records and have not come across any of the Jewish enumerations on-line except for those files posted on the H-SIG website and partial translations submitted to this list and preserved in the JewishGen archives. If anyone has come across such records please let us know!

Be aware that some of the postings regarding the availability of records regards vital records, not census records. This is a different matter if only because vital records were created and maintained at the local level. In a 1996 Avotaynu article on Czech and Slovak research, Ed Luft explained, for example, that in areas of Slovakia that were formerly part of Hungary, records more than 100 years old had to be transferred >from the local record offices that created them to the local archives unless they were of national relevance in which case they were transferred to national archives. Some books, indexes, and associated records remained in local record offices even though they were more than 100 years old because the book or index also included records that were less than 100 years old.


Hungary SIG #Hungary 19 century census records #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

Are any of the 19th century Hungarian Jewish census records available on the www?

Attila Rona

Moderator VK: As Jordan Auslander reported in his presentation at the Toronto IAJGS conference, the Austro-Hungarian Empire conducted censuses of Jewish residents in 1725-27, 1735-39, 1743-45, 1767-68, and, of course, 1848. Partial censuses of other counties (e.g. Tolna, Zemplen) exist >from other years. Other national censuses (e.g. 1869) identified the persons enumerated by religion including Jews. Jordan says that some of these records are preserved in regional archjives. I am not aware of any exhaustive listing of repositories of Jewish census records and have not come across any of the Jewish enumerations on-line except for those files posted on the H-SIG website and partial translations submitted to this list and preserved in the JewishGen archives. If anyone has come across such records please let us know!

Be aware that some of the postings regarding the availability of records regards vital records, not census records. This is a different matter if only because vital records were created and maintained at the local level. In a 1996 Avotaynu article on Czech and Slovak research, Ed Luft explained, for example, that in areas of Slovakia that were formerly part of Hungary, records more than 100 years old had to be transferred >from the local record offices that created them to the local archives unless they were of national relevance in which case they were transferred to national archives. Some books, indexes, and associated records remained in local record offices even though they were more than 100 years old because the book or index also included records that were less than 100 years old.


Hebrew spelling of surname UTITZ #general

Peter Zimmer <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Hi list,

I am trying to look up a name of my ancestors >from Prague in Simon Hook's
book *Die Familien Prags*. This book is in written in Hebrew and shows the
tombstone inscriptions of the Old Jewish Cemetery in Prague. The name I am
looking for is UTITZ. I have tried various possibilities but cannot find
it. It should be in the book because UTITZ is an old Prague name.

I tried Alef, vav, tet, yud, tzadi but without success. I also tried Ayin
as the first letter without success, too.
Does anybody know the name and its Hebrew spelling.

Thank you
Peter Zimmer
M=FCnster
Germany

I am researching
BRANDEIS UTITZ KATZ POHL LANG KAUDERS SCHMELKES NACHOD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hebrew spelling of surname UTITZ #general

Peter Zimmer <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Hi list,

I am trying to look up a name of my ancestors >from Prague in Simon Hook's
book *Die Familien Prags*. This book is in written in Hebrew and shows the
tombstone inscriptions of the Old Jewish Cemetery in Prague. The name I am
looking for is UTITZ. I have tried various possibilities but cannot find
it. It should be in the book because UTITZ is an old Prague name.

I tried Alef, vav, tet, yud, tzadi but without success. I also tried Ayin
as the first letter without success, too.
Does anybody know the name and its Hebrew spelling.

Thank you
Peter Zimmer
M=FCnster
Germany

I am researching
BRANDEIS UTITZ KATZ POHL LANG KAUDERS SCHMELKES NACHOD


FW: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940 #hungary

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Dear SIGers,

I'm forwarding the reply I got >from the distinguished Prof. Gyemant of =
the Cluj-Napoca University.
The question was regarding available vital records in Transylvania >from =
1900-1940.

Enjoy,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel
ariksolo@zahav.net.il

Researching:
SOLOMON (SALAMON,SALOMON), >from TURT (TURCZ)
NEUFELD, >from VAMA (VAMFALU)
GRUN, >from SATU MARE (SZATMAR)
FEIG, >from RUSCOVA (VISOOROSZI)

-----Original Message-----
From: Gyemant Laszlo [mailto:gyemant@zortec.ro]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:01 PM
To: Arik Solomon
Subject: Re: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940

Dear Mr. Solomon,
I confirm the receipt of your message. For the mentioned places are
available the following resources:
- for the period before 1895 there are rabinical registers of births,
deaths and marriages preserved in the State Archives >from Satu Mare. =
They
begin around 1850 and are preserved better for Satu Mare, and with large
gaps for the villages because in the Holocaust period many of them were
destroyed.
- beginning with 1895 there are state registers which include the
inhabitants of all religious denomination. These registers of births,
deaths and marriages are preserved in the Registry Offices of the
respevtive towns. If you would like to research in the State Archives =
you
need the written approval of the general Direction of the National =
Archives
from Bucharest. For the Registry Offices of the towns it is possible to
obtain so-called extracts if you visit the respective places. There are
preserved too Jewish cemeteries especially in Satu Mare.
Hoping that these informations will be helpful, I remain with the best
wishes
Ladislau =
Gyemant


Hungary SIG #Hungary FW: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940 #hungary

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Dear SIGers,

I'm forwarding the reply I got >from the distinguished Prof. Gyemant of =
the Cluj-Napoca University.
The question was regarding available vital records in Transylvania >from =
1900-1940.

Enjoy,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel
ariksolo@zahav.net.il

Researching:
SOLOMON (SALAMON,SALOMON), >from TURT (TURCZ)
NEUFELD, >from VAMA (VAMFALU)
GRUN, >from SATU MARE (SZATMAR)
FEIG, >from RUSCOVA (VISOOROSZI)

-----Original Message-----
From: Gyemant Laszlo [mailto:gyemant@zortec.ro]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:01 PM
To: Arik Solomon
Subject: Re: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940

Dear Mr. Solomon,
I confirm the receipt of your message. For the mentioned places are
available the following resources:
- for the period before 1895 there are rabinical registers of births,
deaths and marriages preserved in the State Archives >from Satu Mare. =
They
begin around 1850 and are preserved better for Satu Mare, and with large
gaps for the villages because in the Holocaust period many of them were
destroyed.
- beginning with 1895 there are state registers which include the
inhabitants of all religious denomination. These registers of births,
deaths and marriages are preserved in the Registry Offices of the
respevtive towns. If you would like to research in the State Archives =
you
need the written approval of the general Direction of the National =
Archives
from Bucharest. For the Registry Offices of the towns it is possible to
obtain so-called extracts if you visit the respective places. There are
preserved too Jewish cemeteries especially in Satu Mare.
Hoping that these informations will be helpful, I remain with the best
wishes
Ladislau =
Gyemant


GERMAN ORIGIN PENSION #hungary

Michael Kelemen <m.kel@...>
 

The Canadian Jewish News announced that Germany
will pay pensions to anyone whose family is of German
descent - including Jews >from Eastern Europe.

So my cousin's husband asked me to research his family
to see if they came >from any German-speaking country.

This fellow's name is DESZO SCHONBERGER.
He is >from BUDAPEST.

His father, PAL Schonberger, came from
BIHARKERESZTESZ.

Pal Schonberger's father was LIPOT Schonberger.
Family tales says that Lipot, participated in the 1848 uprising.

People had a hard time understanding him because
he hardly spoke any Hungarian, being primarily German
speaking.

If anyone is familiar with the Schonbergers of
Biharkeresztesz - or the German pension law -
I would be interested in hearing about it.

Regards,

Michael Kelemen


1781 Census #hungary

Bob and Diane Hanscom <rodihan@...>
 

Thanks to Henry Wellisch, I've been able to order copies of the 1781
Jewish census of Trencin county, Hungary as well as the city of Trencin.
Even though this census does not include surnames, it has still been a
valuable resource for me. Because I was already aware of naming patterns
within the families I've been studying, I'm starting to identify likely
ancestors.

The census is remarkably legible and provides the name of the head of
household, his wife, and a list of all sons and daughters still residing
with the parents. In subsequent columns, it also lists the names of
servants and other people employed by the head of household.

In Vag Besztercze, there is a name that I cannot decipher. I've looked
through the entire census, and I've noted that the name is a recurring
one. But, each time I look at it, I can't make sense of it. Here is my
interpretation of what I think I'm reading:

Vag Besztercze, 1781
Marcus "VTesek" (?)
wife: Esztera
sons: Moizes, Hershl, and Kalman
daughters: Catharina and Rosalia

also--
Joseff "VPesek" (?)
wife: Esztera
sons: Jacob and Salomon
daughter: Anna

Comparing the first letter to the first letter in other words, I'm quite
certain that this name begins with a "V" and the last three letters are
"s - e - k". But, I cannot seem to go much further. Does anyone
recognize what this name might be?

I would be glad to send anyone photocopies of various pages where this
name appears. Thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Bob Hanscom

Trencin city families: KNOPFELMACHER, TAUBER, ZERKOWITZ, KOHN
Trencin county families: TESCHNER, WILHELM, KOHN


Hungary SIG #Hungary GERMAN ORIGIN PENSION #hungary

Michael Kelemen <m.kel@...>
 

The Canadian Jewish News announced that Germany
will pay pensions to anyone whose family is of German
descent - including Jews >from Eastern Europe.

So my cousin's husband asked me to research his family
to see if they came >from any German-speaking country.

This fellow's name is DESZO SCHONBERGER.
He is >from BUDAPEST.

His father, PAL Schonberger, came from
BIHARKERESZTESZ.

Pal Schonberger's father was LIPOT Schonberger.
Family tales says that Lipot, participated in the 1848 uprising.

People had a hard time understanding him because
he hardly spoke any Hungarian, being primarily German
speaking.

If anyone is familiar with the Schonbergers of
Biharkeresztesz - or the German pension law -
I would be interested in hearing about it.

Regards,

Michael Kelemen


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1781 Census #hungary

Bob and Diane Hanscom <rodihan@...>
 

Thanks to Henry Wellisch, I've been able to order copies of the 1781
Jewish census of Trencin county, Hungary as well as the city of Trencin.
Even though this census does not include surnames, it has still been a
valuable resource for me. Because I was already aware of naming patterns
within the families I've been studying, I'm starting to identify likely
ancestors.

The census is remarkably legible and provides the name of the head of
household, his wife, and a list of all sons and daughters still residing
with the parents. In subsequent columns, it also lists the names of
servants and other people employed by the head of household.

In Vag Besztercze, there is a name that I cannot decipher. I've looked
through the entire census, and I've noted that the name is a recurring
one. But, each time I look at it, I can't make sense of it. Here is my
interpretation of what I think I'm reading:

Vag Besztercze, 1781
Marcus "VTesek" (?)
wife: Esztera
sons: Moizes, Hershl, and Kalman
daughters: Catharina and Rosalia

also--
Joseff "VPesek" (?)
wife: Esztera
sons: Jacob and Salomon
daughter: Anna

Comparing the first letter to the first letter in other words, I'm quite
certain that this name begins with a "V" and the last three letters are
"s - e - k". But, I cannot seem to go much further. Does anyone
recognize what this name might be?

I would be glad to send anyone photocopies of various pages where this
name appears. Thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Bob Hanscom

Trencin city families: KNOPFELMACHER, TAUBER, ZERKOWITZ, KOHN
Trencin county families: TESCHNER, WILHELM, KOHN