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Path of Rghtousness Synagogue #general

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

I wonder whether anyone has heard of The Path of Rightousness Synagogue in
the East End of London and if so, where was it situated?

According to an obituary, my great-grandfather was chazan there after 1833.
It might have been one of those many tiny shuls which were around in those
days.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

With best wishes
Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Path of Rghtousness Synagogue #general

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

I wonder whether anyone has heard of The Path of Rightousness Synagogue in
the East End of London and if so, where was it situated?

According to an obituary, my great-grandfather was chazan there after 1833.
It might have been one of those many tiny shuls which were around in those
days.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

With best wishes
Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk
Re: NYC Birth Records (c. 1900) - Question #general

Elise Friedman <elise@...>
 

Shawn and all,

I'm responding to the list since this may help others with their own
research.

The answers in the 1901 Certificate:
- Number of Previous Children: 6
- How Many Now Living (in all): 7
(Does this mean that all of her children are living?)
Yes. There were 6 previous children plus the one who was just born, so
there are now 7 living in all.

The answers in the 1903 Certificate:
- Number of Previous Children: 8
- How Many Now Living (in all): 8
(Does this mean that a child has passed away?)
Yes. There were 8 previous children plus the one just born, which should
have been 9 living in all. Since only 8 is listed, indeed this should
mean one has died.

What does this say about the missing child, if
anything?
The child died before the 1903 birth and appears to have been born after
the 1901 birth. Check both the birth and death indexes >from the 1901
birth date through the 1903 birth date for the child's surname. Compare
the results and hopefully you'll find a name/age match (the death index
provides the age at death). Be sure to check the 1901 birth date itself
for the birth.. could have been a twin. If he was a twin and born
second, then he wouldn't have been reflected on the first twin's
certificate.

My grandmother's youngest sister had a twin brother who died at age 2.
I'm very close with my grandmother and her sisters, but I never knew there
was a twin until I started doing genealogy and someone thought to tell me.
My aunt has one picture of her and her twin brother, which I had the
pleasure of seeing for the first time last summer. Now I just need to get
a copy of it!

Anyway, you can order the birth and death index microfilms at your local
Family History Center. Visit
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/guide/New_York18.asp#vital_records
and scroll down to New York City to find the appropriate film numbers.
Your local Family History Center will also have a copy of the microfilm
catalog, probably on CD, that you can use to look up film numbers.

Good luck!

Elise Friedman
Columbia, Maryland
JGS Maryland - http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-maryland/

Researching:
PALEVSKY/PALEFSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIPSCHITZ/LIFSHITZ (Brisk, Belarus);
EISNER, TAUB, SASS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol or Lemberg, Ukraine);
MILLER [or variants], TAUB (Dobromil/Byblo);
CHERNOCK/CHERNIACK (Russia/Poland); CHESIN (Mstislavl, Mogilev, Belarus);
FRIEDMAN/LEWIS [originally KIMYATEK or similar] (Katowice?, Poland)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Birth Records (c. 1900) - Question #general

Elise Friedman <elise@...>
 

Shawn and all,

I'm responding to the list since this may help others with their own
research.

The answers in the 1901 Certificate:
- Number of Previous Children: 6
- How Many Now Living (in all): 7
(Does this mean that all of her children are living?)
Yes. There were 6 previous children plus the one who was just born, so
there are now 7 living in all.

The answers in the 1903 Certificate:
- Number of Previous Children: 8
- How Many Now Living (in all): 8
(Does this mean that a child has passed away?)
Yes. There were 8 previous children plus the one just born, which should
have been 9 living in all. Since only 8 is listed, indeed this should
mean one has died.

What does this say about the missing child, if
anything?
The child died before the 1903 birth and appears to have been born after
the 1901 birth. Check both the birth and death indexes >from the 1901
birth date through the 1903 birth date for the child's surname. Compare
the results and hopefully you'll find a name/age match (the death index
provides the age at death). Be sure to check the 1901 birth date itself
for the birth.. could have been a twin. If he was a twin and born
second, then he wouldn't have been reflected on the first twin's
certificate.

My grandmother's youngest sister had a twin brother who died at age 2.
I'm very close with my grandmother and her sisters, but I never knew there
was a twin until I started doing genealogy and someone thought to tell me.
My aunt has one picture of her and her twin brother, which I had the
pleasure of seeing for the first time last summer. Now I just need to get
a copy of it!

Anyway, you can order the birth and death index microfilms at your local
Family History Center. Visit
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/guide/New_York18.asp#vital_records
and scroll down to New York City to find the appropriate film numbers.
Your local Family History Center will also have a copy of the microfilm
catalog, probably on CD, that you can use to look up film numbers.

Good luck!

Elise Friedman
Columbia, Maryland
JGS Maryland - http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-maryland/

Researching:
PALEVSKY/PALEFSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIPSCHITZ/LIFSHITZ (Brisk, Belarus);
EISNER, TAUB, SASS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol or Lemberg, Ukraine);
MILLER [or variants], TAUB (Dobromil/Byblo);
CHERNOCK/CHERNIACK (Russia/Poland); CHESIN (Mstislavl, Mogilev, Belarus);
FRIEDMAN/LEWIS [originally KIMYATEK or similar] (Katowice?, Poland)
Re: Yiddish-Soviet equivalent of First Names #general

Curiousyl@...
 

In a message dated 8/28/02 11:35:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ronatuf@yahoo.com writes:

<< http://www.geocities.com/ronatuf >>
Thank you for an excellent source of Meanings of Names and
Hebrew /Yiddish, Soviet Adaptations and Diminutives.

Your web-site is an excellent aid to those of us who pore through
FHL films!

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita - Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County, Inc., Florida
Recipient of the IAJGS 21st Conference Achievement Award for Programming,
London 2001
Researching: FRUCHT [FURSHMAN] , MELC, DOROGOI - Lithuania: Vilcomir
[Ukmerge], Kovno [Kaunas], Vilna [Vilnius], Moletai. c.
1800-1945;Paris,France; EHRENPREIS - Austria: Lemburg [Lviv, Ukraine];
Sweden; AWNER [AVNER] - Austria: Lemburg [Lviv, Ukraine], England; Israel;
NUSINOV/NOUSSINOV - Russia: Jitomir - Volynia guberniya [Zhitomir, Ukraine]; Buenos Aires, Argentina;

MODERATOR NOTE: Search List truncated to six lines
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Yiddish-Soviet equivalent of First Names #general

Curiousyl@...
 

In a message dated 8/28/02 11:35:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ronatuf@yahoo.com writes:

<< http://www.geocities.com/ronatuf >>
Thank you for an excellent source of Meanings of Names and
Hebrew /Yiddish, Soviet Adaptations and Diminutives.

Your web-site is an excellent aid to those of us who pore through
FHL films!

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita - Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County, Inc., Florida
Recipient of the IAJGS 21st Conference Achievement Award for Programming,
London 2001
Researching: FRUCHT [FURSHMAN] , MELC, DOROGOI - Lithuania: Vilcomir
[Ukmerge], Kovno [Kaunas], Vilna [Vilnius], Moletai. c.
1800-1945;Paris,France; EHRENPREIS - Austria: Lemburg [Lviv, Ukraine];
Sweden; AWNER [AVNER] - Austria: Lemburg [Lviv, Ukraine], England; Israel;
NUSINOV/NOUSSINOV - Russia: Jitomir - Volynia guberniya [Zhitomir, Ukraine]; Buenos Aires, Argentina;

MODERATOR NOTE: Search List truncated to six lines
Path of Rghtousness Synagogue #unitedkingdom

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

I wonder whether anyone has heard of The Path of Rightousness Synagogue in
the East End of London and if so, where was it situated?

According to an obituary, my great-grandfather was chazan there after 1833.
It might have been one of those many tiny shuls which were around in those
days.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

With best wishes
Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Path of Rghtousness Synagogue #unitedkingdom

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

I wonder whether anyone has heard of The Path of Rightousness Synagogue in
the East End of London and if so, where was it situated?

According to an obituary, my great-grandfather was chazan there after 1833.
It might have been one of those many tiny shuls which were around in those
days.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

With best wishes
Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk
Gary Mokotoff's Comments on Toronto #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

An excerpt >from Gary Mokotoff's newsletter for those who don't subscribe:

At 8:17 PM -0400 8/26/02, info@avotaynu.com wrote:
As a sign of our times, there was a conspicuous presence of security people
at the Jewish conference in Toronto. Garry Stein of the hosting society told
me the conference was the largest Jewish conference to be held in Canada so
far this year. The conference area was in a sub-basement of the Sheraton
Centre Hotel making it easier to isolate the events. People wanting access
to the area had to pass security guards, not of the type you see at exits to
department stores, but more like ex-Royal Canadian Mounted Police. There
were two security men there that were obviously Israelis. The extra security
had no impact on the conference attendees. For example, there were no metal
detector screenings or searches of personal belongings--you just knew the
security people were there.

Audio tapes are available ...Order forms for the Jewish
conference can be gotten by e-mailing Metro Media, vkirton@sympatico.ca.
Include your mailing address. Cost per tape is CDN$10.00 plus shipping. All
U.S. national conferences and some past Jewish conferences are taped by
Audiotapes.com. For example, there are 51 tapes of my past lectures--some
repeat topics as I tend to give updated versions of the same topic at the
various annual conferences. Price is $8.50 plus shipping. The genealogy
portion of their Web site is at
http://www.audiotapes.com/browse.asp?topic=1.

<snip>

Future conferences for IAJGS are:
Washington, DC - July 20-25, 2003
Jerusalem - 2004
Las Vegas - 2005
Mall Discount Extended #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

In order to assist the many people needing additional time to take
advantage of the JewishGen Mall-wide 10% off sale, we have extended
the sale period to

Midnight,Houston time, August 31st.

Now, those of you just returning >from the Toronto Conference have a few
extra days to check out the JewishGen Mall and place your orders at the
extra discount price while giving much needed support to JewishGen.

Please also note our new URL for the improved, more attractive Mall. It is:
http://www.jewishgenmall.org Ordering has been simplified and we are
sure you will find the whole process easier.

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGen Mall
Hungary SIG #Hungary Gary Mokotoff's Comments on Toronto #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

An excerpt >from Gary Mokotoff's newsletter for those who don't subscribe:

At 8:17 PM -0400 8/26/02, info@avotaynu.com wrote:
As a sign of our times, there was a conspicuous presence of security people
at the Jewish conference in Toronto. Garry Stein of the hosting society told
me the conference was the largest Jewish conference to be held in Canada so
far this year. The conference area was in a sub-basement of the Sheraton
Centre Hotel making it easier to isolate the events. People wanting access
to the area had to pass security guards, not of the type you see at exits to
department stores, but more like ex-Royal Canadian Mounted Police. There
were two security men there that were obviously Israelis. The extra security
had no impact on the conference attendees. For example, there were no metal
detector screenings or searches of personal belongings--you just knew the
security people were there.

Audio tapes are available ...Order forms for the Jewish
conference can be gotten by e-mailing Metro Media, vkirton@sympatico.ca.
Include your mailing address. Cost per tape is CDN$10.00 plus shipping. All
U.S. national conferences and some past Jewish conferences are taped by
Audiotapes.com. For example, there are 51 tapes of my past lectures--some
repeat topics as I tend to give updated versions of the same topic at the
various annual conferences. Price is $8.50 plus shipping. The genealogy
portion of their Web site is at
http://www.audiotapes.com/browse.asp?topic=1.

<snip>

Future conferences for IAJGS are:
Washington, DC - July 20-25, 2003
Jerusalem - 2004
Las Vegas - 2005
Hungary SIG #Hungary Mall Discount Extended #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

In order to assist the many people needing additional time to take
advantage of the JewishGen Mall-wide 10% off sale, we have extended
the sale period to

Midnight,Houston time, August 31st.

Now, those of you just returning >from the Toronto Conference have a few
extra days to check out the JewishGen Mall and place your orders at the
extra discount price while giving much needed support to JewishGen.

Please also note our new URL for the improved, more attractive Mall. It is:
http://www.jewishgenmall.org Ordering has been simplified and we are
sure you will find the whole process easier.

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGen Mall
* ref: Velky Mager #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

The place's original name was NAGYMEGYER in Komarom county,
Csalloko:zi district. Today this village is in Slovakia and called
VELKY MED'ER, about 20 miles northwest of Komarno (Komarom).

At 00:00 -0500 27.08.02, Hungarian SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Velky Mager
From: Nadia Rosa <ner38@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:07:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 4

I am trying to find out about the little town or
> village in Southern Slovakia called Velky Mager.
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Moderator VK: Thanks to Tom for locating Vely Mager.
Re: What was said at Toronto? #hungary

MGS18@...
 

"mea culpa" on the Toronto meeting notes.

I'm supposed to type up a summary and submit it to our coordinator.

Please bear with me-I'm just trying to catch my breath as my 3 kids
return to school this week.

Will try not to delay much longer.

Mindy Soclof

From: korman3@ix.netcom.com (korman3)
Reply-to: korman3@ix.netcom.com (korman3)
To: h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org (Hungarian SIG)
Could someone give us an update on the HSIG meeting and the Hungarian
and Slovak lectures in Toronto?

Thanks
Debbi
Los Angeles

Moderator VK: We're organizing our notes >from the H-SIG business meeting
and hope to get a report to you this weekend. I encourage anyone who has
notes or comments on sessions of interest to H-SIG members to submit
messages on this subject.
Hungary SIG #Hungary * ref: Velky Mager #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

The place's original name was NAGYMEGYER in Komarom county,
Csalloko:zi district. Today this village is in Slovakia and called
VELKY MED'ER, about 20 miles northwest of Komarno (Komarom).

At 00:00 -0500 27.08.02, Hungarian SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Velky Mager
From: Nadia Rosa <ner38@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:07:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 4

I am trying to find out about the little town or
> village in Southern Slovakia called Velky Mager.
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Moderator VK: Thanks to Tom for locating Vely Mager.
Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: What was said at Toronto? #hungary

MGS18@...
 

"mea culpa" on the Toronto meeting notes.

I'm supposed to type up a summary and submit it to our coordinator.

Please bear with me-I'm just trying to catch my breath as my 3 kids
return to school this week.

Will try not to delay much longer.

Mindy Soclof

From: korman3@ix.netcom.com (korman3)
Reply-to: korman3@ix.netcom.com (korman3)
To: h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org (Hungarian SIG)
Could someone give us an update on the HSIG meeting and the Hungarian
and Slovak lectures in Toronto?

Thanks
Debbi
Los Angeles

Moderator VK: We're organizing our notes >from the H-SIG business meeting
and hope to get a report to you this weekend. I encourage anyone who has
notes or comments on sessions of interest to H-SIG members to submit
messages on this subject.
1901 Online Census #unitedkingdom

Jgsgbccc@...
 

The 1901 Online Census for England and Wales is now back online again for
public testing (or at least it was at 7.30am London time this morning - 28
August).
The web site address is
www.census.pro.gov.uk
Regards
Laurence Harris
Middx, England
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom 1901 Online Census #unitedkingdom

Jgsgbccc@...
 

The 1901 Online Census for England and Wales is now back online again for
public testing (or at least it was at 7.30am London time this morning - 28
August).
The web site address is
www.census.pro.gov.uk
Regards
Laurence Harris
Middx, England
Nocher, Nochem #general

Joan Parker <housemom@...>
 

Dear Genners;

I have personally thanked all who took the time to reply about Nocher.
Everyone who has written has said the same thing basically: Nochem, which
make sense. I went back and looked and the last letter is definitely an
R, but possibly the writer misunderstood the name. So I am going to
make a correction in my Family Tree Maker notes.

This is such a wonderful, caring group of people!

I know what nochus means in Yiddish, but recently I found information
> about my Uncle Irving whose name on the 1910 NY census was Isadore,
> later to be come Irving. but on the arrival in 1905 manifest it is
> Nocher. Is there an *English* equivalent to Nocher? My Dad was
> listed as Iszchok which probably is Itsaak and was Ike on the 1910
> census. He ultimately became Ernest.
Joan Parker
Miami, FL
Searching: GOLDBERG and GOODSTEIN-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS and WINOGRAD-Odessa, Ukraine and Brooklyn, NY; GELFAND-Minsk and
Bronx, NY; YEHUDIS; KATZ, Bronx, NY
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nocher, Nochem #general

Joan Parker <housemom@...>
 

Dear Genners;

I have personally thanked all who took the time to reply about Nocher.
Everyone who has written has said the same thing basically: Nochem, which
make sense. I went back and looked and the last letter is definitely an
R, but possibly the writer misunderstood the name. So I am going to
make a correction in my Family Tree Maker notes.

This is such a wonderful, caring group of people!

I know what nochus means in Yiddish, but recently I found information
> about my Uncle Irving whose name on the 1910 NY census was Isadore,
> later to be come Irving. but on the arrival in 1905 manifest it is
> Nocher. Is there an *English* equivalent to Nocher? My Dad was
> listed as Iszchok which probably is Itsaak and was Ike on the 1910
> census. He ultimately became Ernest.
Joan Parker
Miami, FL
Searching: GOLDBERG and GOODSTEIN-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS and WINOGRAD-Odessa, Ukraine and Brooklyn, NY; GELFAND-Minsk and
Bronx, NY; YEHUDIS; KATZ, Bronx, NY
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