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CAN ANYONE TRANSLATE A KETUBAH #unitedkingdom

Merle Bakes <ottolangui2002@...>
 

Dear Group, I have tried to get my Ketubah translated
through a number of people here in Australia. It seems
my Ketubah is written in an "old" hebrew font, and I
can't find anyone who is familier with this. Would
anyone be kind enough to translate this Ketubah for
me? If so please contact me privately and I will
forward my Ketubah via email. Thanks.
Regards Merle

Merle Bakes/Langley
Brisbane,Qld
Australia

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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom CAN ANYONE TRANSLATE A KETUBAH #unitedkingdom

Merle Bakes <ottolangui2002@...>
 

Dear Group, I have tried to get my Ketubah translated
through a number of people here in Australia. It seems
my Ketubah is written in an "old" hebrew font, and I
can't find anyone who is familier with this. Would
anyone be kind enough to translate this Ketubah for
me? If so please contact me privately and I will
forward my Ketubah via email. Thanks.
Regards Merle

Merle Bakes/Langley
Brisbane,Qld
Australia

MODERATOR NOTE: This posting would be more appropriate for JewishGen Discussion Group rather than the JCR-UK SIG. Please reply to the writer privately. General questions that are not UK orientated will not be posted in the future.


Re: 1901 Online Census #unitedkingdom

Barry Young <b_i_young@...>
 

A big thank you to Laurence for this information and a question to all you
genners out there.

I have been on the site today and found the pages for 2 sets of my
great-grandparents and their children. A third has proved illusive, no
appropriate finds on the surnames, a check on a forename, age and location
of my grandmother produced no obvious matches.

I do know that one member was married >from Cressy Place, where my maternal
grandmother was born. Any ideas how I can identify >from this address? I
cannot find any reference to an address, only districts, etc.

Incidentally, the family name I am searching for is CHAIKIN.

Barry Young
Barnet, Herts, UK


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: 1901 Online Census #unitedkingdom

Barry Young <b_i_young@...>
 

A big thank you to Laurence for this information and a question to all you
genners out there.

I have been on the site today and found the pages for 2 sets of my
great-grandparents and their children. A third has proved illusive, no
appropriate finds on the surnames, a check on a forename, age and location
of my grandmother produced no obvious matches.

I do know that one member was married >from Cressy Place, where my maternal
grandmother was born. Any ideas how I can identify >from this address? I
cannot find any reference to an address, only districts, etc.

Incidentally, the family name I am searching for is CHAIKIN.

Barry Young
Barnet, Herts, UK


Re: Jewish Encyclopedia #general

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

On 2002.08.28 Stan Goodman <sgoodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:

Somehow I am not getting full use of the alphabetical index. I can
choose an initial letter for a topic, say T; I then have access to
four pages of topics, alphabetically arranged. In the case of T,
this gets me down to #38, Tam, Jacob b. David. It is very hard for
me to believe that there are no entries beginning with e.g. "Te".
The same is true of other initial letters.
They do seem to have a few problems... This one you can solve by
clicking on the dropdown menu and picking >from it another set of
four pages.

Jake Goldstein
Boston Massachusetts


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Jewish Encyclopedia #rabbinic

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

On 2002.08.28 Stan Goodman <sgoodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:

Somehow I am not getting full use of the alphabetical index. I can
choose an initial letter for a topic, say T; I then have access to
four pages of topics, alphabetically arranged. In the case of T,
this gets me down to #38, Tam, Jacob b. David. It is very hard for
me to believe that there are no entries beginning with e.g. "Te".
The same is true of other initial letters.
They do seem to have a few problems... This one you can solve by
clicking on the dropdown menu and picking >from it another set of
four pages.

Jake Goldstein
Boston Massachusetts


Jewish Encyclopedia Problems #rabbinic

NFatouros@...
 

I have written today to the operator(s) of the Jewish Encyclopedia.
In a short time I received a reply >from "Josh" who said that some
bugs still had to be worked out.

I was prompted to write because I too had a little trouble but I
am sure that when the technical problems are solved, searches will
be much easier.

Still, because different people wrote the articles, the spellings
of names of towns and persons throughout the encyclopedia are not
uniform.

For instance, when I typed in "Berdichev" turned up nothing. But
typing in "Berditchev" and "Berditchew" turned up several "hits".
(Eventually, I'll add to the information given under the main
Berditchev heading by "starting a discussion" as we are invited to
do for each topic.)

So, when I decided to do a search for the town "Kremenchug," I knew
from my experience with Berdichev to try first "Krementchug," and
thus I got quite a few "hits." ("Kremenchug" turned up nothing.)

When I first tried "BELKOWSKY" I got only one answer, which
concerned the Kharkov conference which my grandfather's cousin,
Gregor Zvi BELKOWSKY, had attended, under the heading "Zionism."
Most Jewish encyclopedias have biographical information about Gregor
Zvi under the spelling BELKOWSKY. I don't know how his name is
spelled in Hebrew, but I do have translations of the biographical
information given in a couple of Hebrew references. So, curious why
more about him did not appear at the site, today I tried typing in
"Zionism," and on the second "page" found the encyclopedia's quite
good biography of "Gregoire Zvi BELKOVSKY. I was pleased to see a
list of articles he'd written, some of which I did not know about
before, and I expect to create a discussion group about him. My
first attempt to fill out the Encyclopedia's message form to set up
a BELKOVSKY-BELKOWSKY-BIELKOWSKY Discussion Group and to update the
biographical information the Encyclopedia provides for Gregor Zvi
failed when I pressed the "send" button, but Josh assured me that
this sort of failure will be remedied.

So no one should be disappointed at their first tries at exploring
the Encyclopeida. Instead, everyone should use his or hers
imagination and attempt all the possible variants of names of towns
and people. Also try searching under a subject matter heading.
Something of interest is bound to turn up!

As for the articles, there is for instance, a very good one on
Jewish agricutural colonies in Russia, which I turned up simply by
typing "Agriculture" in the search box.

Naomi Fatouros (nee Feldman)
Bloomington, Indiana
mailto:NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;
ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT,
Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Jewish Encyclopedia Problems #rabbinic

NFatouros@...
 

I have written today to the operator(s) of the Jewish Encyclopedia.
In a short time I received a reply >from "Josh" who said that some
bugs still had to be worked out.

I was prompted to write because I too had a little trouble but I
am sure that when the technical problems are solved, searches will
be much easier.

Still, because different people wrote the articles, the spellings
of names of towns and persons throughout the encyclopedia are not
uniform.

For instance, when I typed in "Berdichev" turned up nothing. But
typing in "Berditchev" and "Berditchew" turned up several "hits".
(Eventually, I'll add to the information given under the main
Berditchev heading by "starting a discussion" as we are invited to
do for each topic.)

So, when I decided to do a search for the town "Kremenchug," I knew
from my experience with Berdichev to try first "Krementchug," and
thus I got quite a few "hits." ("Kremenchug" turned up nothing.)

When I first tried "BELKOWSKY" I got only one answer, which
concerned the Kharkov conference which my grandfather's cousin,
Gregor Zvi BELKOWSKY, had attended, under the heading "Zionism."
Most Jewish encyclopedias have biographical information about Gregor
Zvi under the spelling BELKOWSKY. I don't know how his name is
spelled in Hebrew, but I do have translations of the biographical
information given in a couple of Hebrew references. So, curious why
more about him did not appear at the site, today I tried typing in
"Zionism," and on the second "page" found the encyclopedia's quite
good biography of "Gregoire Zvi BELKOVSKY. I was pleased to see a
list of articles he'd written, some of which I did not know about
before, and I expect to create a discussion group about him. My
first attempt to fill out the Encyclopedia's message form to set up
a BELKOVSKY-BELKOWSKY-BIELKOWSKY Discussion Group and to update the
biographical information the Encyclopedia provides for Gregor Zvi
failed when I pressed the "send" button, but Josh assured me that
this sort of failure will be remedied.

So no one should be disappointed at their first tries at exploring
the Encyclopeida. Instead, everyone should use his or hers
imagination and attempt all the possible variants of names of towns
and people. Also try searching under a subject matter heading.
Something of interest is bound to turn up!

As for the articles, there is for instance, a very good one on
Jewish agricutural colonies in Russia, which I turned up simply by
typing "Agriculture" in the search box.

Naomi Fatouros (nee Feldman)
Bloomington, Indiana
mailto:NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;
ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT,
Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


BINDER (CHASAN) - Bialystok to Brooklyn #belarus

Steve Gabai <sgabai@...>
 

I'm interested in Mary/Miriam Binder, most likely >from Bialystok. She was
born around 1863 and married Sol Chasan around 1880.

They had two children in Europe and immigrated to the US in the early 1890s.
They settled in Brooklyn where they had two more children.

Mary died around 1905 and Sol went on to marry two more times.

Respond privately.

Steve Gabai

Researching:

ABOUAF, ALGRANATI (ALGRANTI), BINDER, CARMONA, CHASAN (any
spelling, including SCHAEZEN), FINKELSTEIN (NYC), GABAI (GABBAI - GABAY),
GREENBAUM, GREENBERG, INSKY, MUSSAF (NJ), PERLSTEIN (PEARLSTEIN),
RATOVETSKY, ROUSSO (RUSSO), SCHIMSKY (SCHYMSKER - SCHETZENSKY), SCHRAPATZ
(SKROPOTICH), SHWARTZ, (SCHWARTZ), SILVER, SPECTOR & TARANTO


Belarus SIG #Belarus BINDER (CHASAN) - Bialystok to Brooklyn #belarus

Steve Gabai <sgabai@...>
 

I'm interested in Mary/Miriam Binder, most likely >from Bialystok. She was
born around 1863 and married Sol Chasan around 1880.

They had two children in Europe and immigrated to the US in the early 1890s.
They settled in Brooklyn where they had two more children.

Mary died around 1905 and Sol went on to marry two more times.

Respond privately.

Steve Gabai

Researching:

ABOUAF, ALGRANATI (ALGRANTI), BINDER, CARMONA, CHASAN (any
spelling, including SCHAEZEN), FINKELSTEIN (NYC), GABAI (GABBAI - GABAY),
GREENBAUM, GREENBERG, INSKY, MUSSAF (NJ), PERLSTEIN (PEARLSTEIN),
RATOVETSKY, ROUSSO (RUSSO), SCHIMSKY (SCHYMSKER - SCHETZENSKY), SCHRAPATZ
(SKROPOTICH), SHWARTZ, (SCHWARTZ), SILVER, SPECTOR & TARANTO


ABRAHAM JACOBS INFO POSTED ON VIEWMATE. NEED HELP READING. #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

Please view at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734/35.html

Two items are posted on Viewmate regarding Abraham Jacobs. On his Death
Certificate, help is needed reading the given name and middle initial of
Abraham's father and the maiden name of his mother.

The second item is Abraham's obituary which shows Mollie as his widow. Her
maiden name or any other information about her is unknown to us.

It is possible that Abraham was related to Chaim/Hyman Jacobs who may have
been married to Sarah. If they are related, they could be brothers or father
and son.

Thank you for your suggestions of the spellings of these names. Hopefully,
there will also be a connection on these documents to a genner's family
records?

Please reply privately.

TIA for your responses.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net


Abraham Jacobs - Viewmate Correction #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

When posting the Viewmate address I combined the two items and it should
have read:

please view at: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734.html

and

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1735.html

I apologize for inconveniencing anyone, particularly those genners kind
enough to view these and offer their help.

Thank you,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner


Belarus SIG #Belarus ABRAHAM JACOBS INFO POSTED ON VIEWMATE. NEED HELP READING. #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

Please view at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734/35.html

Two items are posted on Viewmate regarding Abraham Jacobs. On his Death
Certificate, help is needed reading the given name and middle initial of
Abraham's father and the maiden name of his mother.

The second item is Abraham's obituary which shows Mollie as his widow. Her
maiden name or any other information about her is unknown to us.

It is possible that Abraham was related to Chaim/Hyman Jacobs who may have
been married to Sarah. If they are related, they could be brothers or father
and son.

Thank you for your suggestions of the spellings of these names. Hopefully,
there will also be a connection on these documents to a genner's family
records?

Please reply privately.

TIA for your responses.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus Abraham Jacobs - Viewmate Correction #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

When posting the Viewmate address I combined the two items and it should
have read:

please view at: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734.html

and

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1735.html

I apologize for inconveniencing anyone, particularly those genners kind
enough to view these and offer their help.

Thank you,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner


SAKIN,MENDELSON,PIVOVAR,BERLIN,ZOLOTAROV,DREKSLER,KAGAN,SINOVSKY, #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Respectfully, we have always been told that each name should be in its
own header. This will enable those reading the headers to ascertain
whether that message is of interest or not. Only SAKIN and PIVOVAR have
been sent in the header. That means that those NOT interested in Sakin
or Pivovar, but possibly in the others, will NEVER read the list of new
names discovered. Only those interested in Sakin or Pivovar will see the
entire list of names. We are continually told to be specific in our
headings, therefore a separate header is required for each name to reach
the proper people.

Therefore I respectfully request that each name below be listed in its
own header in a separate message, which I will be pleased to send again,
perhaps only with a short message "Contact me if this name is of
interest." Is this a better way to do it?

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net

New names discovered: SAKIN, MENDELSON, PIVOVAR, BERLIN, ZOLOTAROV,
DREKSLER, KAGAN, SINOVSKY, PINSKY, MOTKIN, RUBINOV, BELOSTOCK, SOSKIN,
OSINOVSKY, DOLKARG/T, PLOTKIN/PLOSKIN, BROIDA, ABERSON,
BRYKHBINDER/BRUKHBINDER, YOFFE/YAFFE.

MODERATOR NOTE: Since all of the names are at the end of this message,
it is not necessary to repeat this message ad ifinitum.


Belarus SIG #Belarus SAKIN,MENDELSON,PIVOVAR,BERLIN,ZOLOTAROV,DREKSLER,KAGAN,SINOVSKY, #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Respectfully, we have always been told that each name should be in its
own header. This will enable those reading the headers to ascertain
whether that message is of interest or not. Only SAKIN and PIVOVAR have
been sent in the header. That means that those NOT interested in Sakin
or Pivovar, but possibly in the others, will NEVER read the list of new
names discovered. Only those interested in Sakin or Pivovar will see the
entire list of names. We are continually told to be specific in our
headings, therefore a separate header is required for each name to reach
the proper people.

Therefore I respectfully request that each name below be listed in its
own header in a separate message, which I will be pleased to send again,
perhaps only with a short message "Contact me if this name is of
interest." Is this a better way to do it?

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net

New names discovered: SAKIN, MENDELSON, PIVOVAR, BERLIN, ZOLOTAROV,
DREKSLER, KAGAN, SINOVSKY, PINSKY, MOTKIN, RUBINOV, BELOSTOCK, SOSKIN,
OSINOVSKY, DOLKARG/T, PLOTKIN/PLOSKIN, BROIDA, ABERSON,
BRYKHBINDER/BRUKHBINDER, YOFFE/YAFFE.

MODERATOR NOTE: Since all of the names are at the end of this message,
it is not necessary to repeat this message ad ifinitum.


Surname TSEITLIN, with LIVSHITS & SHAPIRO #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

DEAR LIST:

Are any of these individuals, or the linkage of the surnames, known
to any researchers?

These names related to my family show up in one of JG's databases -
Marriages in Minsk - but I don't know any of them (yet):
= Braine bat Girsh TSEITLIN, of Glussk.
= She is marrying Khaim ben Lezer LIVSHITS, also of Glussk.
= Witness for the bride is surname SHAPIRO.

Her given name, and the groom's and witness's surnames all show up in
our family oral traditions, so I am assuming this entry deserves
closer study. (The groom's witness is one MINKOV, unknown to me.)

Can anyone shed the beginnings of light?

Thanks,
Michelle Frager/NYC

Belarus: WOLFSON, FRAKT, LIFSHITZ, SHAPIRO, DINABURSKY


Belarus SIG #Belarus Surname TSEITLIN, with LIVSHITS & SHAPIRO #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

DEAR LIST:

Are any of these individuals, or the linkage of the surnames, known
to any researchers?

These names related to my family show up in one of JG's databases -
Marriages in Minsk - but I don't know any of them (yet):
= Braine bat Girsh TSEITLIN, of Glussk.
= She is marrying Khaim ben Lezer LIVSHITS, also of Glussk.
= Witness for the bride is surname SHAPIRO.

Her given name, and the groom's and witness's surnames all show up in
our family oral traditions, so I am assuming this entry deserves
closer study. (The groom's witness is one MINKOV, unknown to me.)

Can anyone shed the beginnings of light?

Thanks,
Michelle Frager/NYC

Belarus: WOLFSON, FRAKT, LIFSHITZ, SHAPIRO, DINABURSKY


Statute of GDL 1588 #belarus

Dmitriy Levit <levitlit@...>
 

I translated and put on my web page: http://litvaki.cjb.net an article >from
the "Statute of Great Dukedom of Lithuania 1588". "About the rights and
responsibilities of the Jews."
Also there: a photocopy of an original text and an adapted text(original
text written with modern letters.
Dmitriy (Chaim) Levit


Belarus SIG #Belarus Statute of GDL 1588 #belarus

Dmitriy Levit <levitlit@...>
 

I translated and put on my web page: http://litvaki.cjb.net an article >from
the "Statute of Great Dukedom of Lithuania 1588". "About the rights and
responsibilities of the Jews."
Also there: a photocopy of an original text and an adapted text(original
text written with modern letters.
Dmitriy (Chaim) Levit