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city of origin #belarus

HENKEN9@...
 

Genners,

In response to Bette Greenfield's query concerning the non-listing of place
of origin for emigrants, two things come to mind, although all speculation.

First, the ship's personnel (no matter port of departure) would have found it
difficult to communicate with the passengers. Secondly, I would think that
the city or province of origin may not have mattered to anyone involved.

Regards,

Ty Henken
Centennial, Colo.
Henken9@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus city of origin #belarus

HENKEN9@...
 

Genners,

In response to Bette Greenfield's query concerning the non-listing of place
of origin for emigrants, two things come to mind, although all speculation.

First, the ship's personnel (no matter port of departure) would have found it
difficult to communicate with the passengers. Secondly, I would think that
the city or province of origin may not have mattered to anyone involved.

Regards,

Ty Henken
Centennial, Colo.
Henken9@...


Re: Why the name change? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/9/2002 3:26:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
marife@... writes:

<< My grandmother's daughters all swear that their mother's name was Eta
Milgrom.

However, on Ellis Island she is listed as Mariemlte Milgram. I am
certain she is one and the same person because she was coming to Atlanta,
Georgia to marry my grandfather and Atlanta is where it said she was coming
on the Ship Manifest. Does anybody have any knowledge about this strange
name change? Who should I trust, my aunts or Ellis Island.? >>

==That's an easy one. The name was incorrrectly transcribed and almost
certainly was Mariette. Mariette would be called Etta by friends and family.

==Fellow-genner Edward Rosenbaum, < erosenbaum@... > in his
presentation at the jewishgenealogy conference in Toronto on Wednesday
mentioned a shareware program that will generate all likely variations
based on mistranscriptions. This is combined with the American Soundex
system and the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex system,
and thus allows you to access the names on most major
genealogy databases with just one click.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Why the name change? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/9/2002 3:26:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
marife@... writes:

<< My grandmother's daughters all swear that their mother's name was Eta
Milgrom.

However, on Ellis Island she is listed as Mariemlte Milgram. I am
certain she is one and the same person because she was coming to Atlanta,
Georgia to marry my grandfather and Atlanta is where it said she was coming
on the Ship Manifest. Does anybody have any knowledge about this strange
name change? Who should I trust, my aunts or Ellis Island.? >>

==That's an easy one. The name was incorrrectly transcribed and almost
certainly was Mariette. Mariette would be called Etta by friends and family.

==Fellow-genner Edward Rosenbaum, < erosenbaum@... > in his
presentation at the jewishgenealogy conference in Toronto on Wednesday
mentioned a shareware program that will generate all likely variations
based on mistranscriptions. This is combined with the American Soundex
system and the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex system,
and thus allows you to access the names on most major
genealogy databases with just one click.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Re: GDUD #general

Charles Mahler
 

Hello Everybody,

If GDUD is a contraction of GEDULD, I believe that the translation of
this German word would be patience or tolerance.

Charles Mahler
Looking for: MAHLER, MARGULIES, LICHTMANN, INTRATOR.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: GDUD #general

Charles Mahler
 

Hello Everybody,

If GDUD is a contraction of GEDULD, I believe that the translation of
this German word would be patience or tolerance.

Charles Mahler
Looking for: MAHLER, MARGULIES, LICHTMANN, INTRATOR.


EIDB success #general

Linda Kern <lkern1@...>
 

I have been searching for my husband's grandfather on the EIDB since it was
put on the web and had been unsuccessful. I recently used Stephen Morse's
site using the Jewish search. I put in only first letter of first name and
first letter of last name along with ethic origin. I also knew his
residence and input it. I found several names to try, but none worked.
Finally found a Mase Kranz. I wanted Morris Kern. I pictured how he, being
Austria, might have pronounced his name and lo and behold it was him. Keep
trying. I am thrilled.

Linda Kern
lkern1@...
Searching: Kern, Baumritter, Tarshis, Zarankin, Roman, Rachmales -Rachmelis


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EIDB success #general

Linda Kern <lkern1@...>
 

I have been searching for my husband's grandfather on the EIDB since it was
put on the web and had been unsuccessful. I recently used Stephen Morse's
site using the Jewish search. I put in only first letter of first name and
first letter of last name along with ethic origin. I also knew his
residence and input it. I found several names to try, but none worked.
Finally found a Mase Kranz. I wanted Morris Kern. I pictured how he, being
Austria, might have pronounced his name and lo and behold it was him. Keep
trying. I am thrilled.

Linda Kern
lkern1@...
Searching: Kern, Baumritter, Tarshis, Zarankin, Roman, Rachmales -Rachmelis


researching VAZ MARTINEZ, VAZ MARTIN, MARTIN #general

keith martin <keithmart@...>
 

Hi Listers,

having been a lurker for a few days, I thought I would post a query of my
own.

My ancestors came to the UK in the early 1800's, but I am having problems
finding Vaz Martinez names, A Martin search throws up a lot of hits.

In amongst the Martins is an occupation "Wholesale slopseller" which sounds
fun!

Does anyone know exactly what that was?

Regards

Keith Martin

MODERATOR NOTE:
You may be able to find more specific information
on UK matters by subscribing to the UK-based
SIG List JCR-UK.
Information available at
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen researching VAZ MARTINEZ, VAZ MARTIN, MARTIN #general

keith martin <keithmart@...>
 

Hi Listers,

having been a lurker for a few days, I thought I would post a query of my
own.

My ancestors came to the UK in the early 1800's, but I am having problems
finding Vaz Martinez names, A Martin search throws up a lot of hits.

In amongst the Martins is an occupation "Wholesale slopseller" which sounds
fun!

Does anyone know exactly what that was?

Regards

Keith Martin

MODERATOR NOTE:
You may be able to find more specific information
on UK matters by subscribing to the UK-based
SIG List JCR-UK.
Information available at
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm


French naturalization #general

Aubrey Jacobus <marie@...>
 

Can anyone tell me how to search for French Naturalization records

TIA

Aubrey Jacobus
--
Check my Genealogical webpage
www.mjacobus.freeserve.co.uk
Please use
aubrey@... for replies


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen French naturalization #general

Aubrey Jacobus <marie@...>
 

Can anyone tell me how to search for French Naturalization records

TIA

Aubrey Jacobus
--
Check my Genealogical webpage
www.mjacobus.freeserve.co.uk
Please use
aubrey@... for replies


The menaing of the word komisar? #general

Iffersas7@...
 

This is a question that I've been wondering about.
Since I began reading about Jewish life
in Eastern Europe. The word komisar and variations
of it come up.
I don't believe it's an english word.

I think it maybe russian but I am not sure.
Can someone tell me what it means?

My grandmother's maiden name was Komisar and her father
was >from Slutsk. He spoke fluent Russian, Yiddish, and English.

I was wondering how his last name could be related to the meaning of that word.

Hope someone can help.

Jennifer Saslafsky
iffersas7@...
Hamden, CT USA

KOMISAR, SASLAFSKY, BERNSTEIN, BAROFSKY,
MARETSKY, MYERS, MERRITT, MATIKA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The menaing of the word komisar? #general

Iffersas7@...
 

This is a question that I've been wondering about.
Since I began reading about Jewish life
in Eastern Europe. The word komisar and variations
of it come up.
I don't believe it's an english word.

I think it maybe russian but I am not sure.
Can someone tell me what it means?

My grandmother's maiden name was Komisar and her father
was >from Slutsk. He spoke fluent Russian, Yiddish, and English.

I was wondering how his last name could be related to the meaning of that word.

Hope someone can help.

Jennifer Saslafsky
iffersas7@...
Hamden, CT USA

KOMISAR, SASLAFSKY, BERNSTEIN, BAROFSKY,
MARETSKY, MYERS, MERRITT, MATIKA


British military personnel serving in Bergen Belsen after WWII #general

KLOOGWEIN@...
 

I am trying to track down a relative, BERNARD KLUGMANN,
who escaped >from Austria to England in the early years
of W.W.II, served at Bergen Belsen with the Military
Government of the British Army of the Rhine,
and supposedly left England for the USA in 1948.

Has anyone done research involving the British
Army of the Rhine stationed at Bergen Belsen?

Thanks.

Judith Kloogman Weinstein
kloogwein@...

Searching for KLUGMAN, KLUGMANN, WEISS, WEISZ, KIMMEL, KIMEL, SOMMERSTEIN,
SOMERSTEIN in MONASTYRISKA, MONASTERZYSKA, VIENNA, WIEN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen British military personnel serving in Bergen Belsen after WWII #general

KLOOGWEIN@...
 

I am trying to track down a relative, BERNARD KLUGMANN,
who escaped >from Austria to England in the early years
of W.W.II, served at Bergen Belsen with the Military
Government of the British Army of the Rhine,
and supposedly left England for the USA in 1948.

Has anyone done research involving the British
Army of the Rhine stationed at Bergen Belsen?

Thanks.

Judith Kloogman Weinstein
kloogwein@...

Searching for KLUGMAN, KLUGMANN, WEISS, WEISZ, KIMMEL, KIMEL, SOMMERSTEIN,
SOMERSTEIN in MONASTYRISKA, MONASTERZYSKA, VIENNA, WIEN


Re: Why the name change? #general

Steven Sherman <ShermanNOSPAM@...>
 

My grandmother's daughters all swear that their mother's name was Eta
Milgrom.

However, on Ellis Island she is listed as Mariemlte Milgram. I am
certain she is one and the same person because she was coming to Atlanta,
Georgia to marry my grandfather and Atlanta is where it said she was coming
on the Ship Manifest. Does anybody have any knowledge about this strange
name change? Who should I trust, my aunts or Ellis Island.?

Thanks for your response.
Marilyn Feingold Atlanta, Georgia
My grandmother's first name as I knew it was Sheila. Her daughters (my mom
& aunt) told me that her real name was Sophie but that she changed it when
she came to America. On reviewing her US naturalization records, it clearly
shows that her real name was originally Getel, not Sophie.

Was this a surprise? Yes

Was it out of character for my grandmother to hid this information >from her
family? No, she did things like this all the time. She obviously didn't
like the name Getel and wanted to purge it >from her life. If it wasn't for
government records, she would have succeeded.

Now if only I could figure out the truth of when she was born.

Steve Sherman
----
Searching: PRUGER, SACKS, COLISH, KOBRE, GILLER, SCHER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Why the name change? #general

Steven Sherman <ShermanNOSPAM@...>
 

My grandmother's daughters all swear that their mother's name was Eta
Milgrom.

However, on Ellis Island she is listed as Mariemlte Milgram. I am
certain she is one and the same person because she was coming to Atlanta,
Georgia to marry my grandfather and Atlanta is where it said she was coming
on the Ship Manifest. Does anybody have any knowledge about this strange
name change? Who should I trust, my aunts or Ellis Island.?

Thanks for your response.
Marilyn Feingold Atlanta, Georgia
My grandmother's first name as I knew it was Sheila. Her daughters (my mom
& aunt) told me that her real name was Sophie but that she changed it when
she came to America. On reviewing her US naturalization records, it clearly
shows that her real name was originally Getel, not Sophie.

Was this a surprise? Yes

Was it out of character for my grandmother to hid this information >from her
family? No, she did things like this all the time. She obviously didn't
like the name Getel and wanted to purge it >from her life. If it wasn't for
government records, she would have succeeded.

Now if only I could figure out the truth of when she was born.

Steve Sherman
----
Searching: PRUGER, SACKS, COLISH, KOBRE, GILLER, SCHER


Re: Why the name change? #general

Dan Goodman <dsgood@...>
 

marife@... (marife) wrote in
news:000701c23f40$02649c00$6401a8c0@hp:

My grandmother's daughters all swear that their mother's name was Eta
Milgrom.

However, on Ellis Island she is listed as Mariemlte Milgram. I am
certain she is one and the same person because she was coming to
Atlanta, Georgia to marry my grandfather and Atlanta is where it said
she was coming on the Ship Manifest. Does anybody have any knowledge
about this strange name change? Who should I trust, my aunts or Ellis
Island.?
Her original legal name might have been something different >from either of
those. It's quite possible that "Eta" is a nickname formed >from her formal
first name -- which would resemble what was written down on Ellis Island,
but not be exactly the same.

The immigration officers on Ellis Island often did things such as spelling
a Norwegian name as if it was Swedish.

My father was born in the US. His legal name was Samuel Abraham Goodman.
His birth certificate gave his name as Abraham Samuel Goodman. His mother
called him Schloime -- which, as I've been told here, would properly be
translated as "Solomon".


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Why the name change? #general

Dan Goodman <dsgood@...>
 

marife@... (marife) wrote in
news:000701c23f40$02649c00$6401a8c0@hp:

My grandmother's daughters all swear that their mother's name was Eta
Milgrom.

However, on Ellis Island she is listed as Mariemlte Milgram. I am
certain she is one and the same person because she was coming to
Atlanta, Georgia to marry my grandfather and Atlanta is where it said
she was coming on the Ship Manifest. Does anybody have any knowledge
about this strange name change? Who should I trust, my aunts or Ellis
Island.?
Her original legal name might have been something different >from either of
those. It's quite possible that "Eta" is a nickname formed >from her formal
first name -- which would resemble what was written down on Ellis Island,
but not be exactly the same.

The immigration officers on Ellis Island often did things such as spelling
a Norwegian name as if it was Swedish.

My father was born in the US. His legal name was Samuel Abraham Goodman.
His birth certificate gave his name as Abraham Samuel Goodman. His mother
called him Schloime -- which, as I've been told here, would properly be
translated as "Solomon".