Hello,

Any idea where I can look for the Kaunas birth records of around
mid 19th century?

Many thanks in advance,
Joana Rabinovitch

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen has several InfoFiles about Lithuanian
research, including a listing of the Kaunas vital records filmed
by LDS. See http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/#Lithuania
and http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/VilnaMicrofilmsIndex.htm
for more information. You may also want to subscribe to the Litvak
SIG discussion group and post your question there. For information
about the Litvak SIG, see http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Daniel Kazez wrote:

from a message I received today, I am reminded that the online

directory for Poland is not well known, nor is it easy to find.
In case the Polish text on that search page confuses you, I have
recently revised a little guide to this search engine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/

Be aware that you need to enter accented characters (they use
Windows-1250 encoding) - so you won't get any results if you
enter 'Wroclaw' or 'Krakow'.

Moreover this directory contains only TP S.A. numbers - although
it's 80-90% of all phones, sometimes you may not find a person who
has a phone (then you'll need to find other operators' directories,
like http://www.dialogok.pl/dialog/main/sub.php?id=50 )

Regards,

Piotr

Hello,

Any idea where I can look for the Kaunas birth records of around
mid 19th century?

Many thanks in advance,
Joana Rabinovitch

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen has several InfoFiles about Lithuanian
research, including a listing of the Kaunas vital records filmed
by LDS. See http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/#Lithuania
and http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/VilnaMicrofilmsIndex.htm
for more information. You may also want to subscribe to the Litvak
SIG discussion group and post your question there. For information
about the Litvak SIG, see http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Daniel Kazez wrote:

from a message I received today, I am reminded that the online

directory for Poland is not well known, nor is it easy to find.
In case the Polish text on that search page confuses you, I have
recently revised a little guide to this search engine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/

Be aware that you need to enter accented characters (they use
Windows-1250 encoding) - so you won't get any results if you
enter 'Wroclaw' or 'Krakow'.

Moreover this directory contains only TP S.A. numbers - although
it's 80-90% of all phones, sometimes you may not find a person who
has a phone (then you'll need to find other operators' directories,
like http://www.dialogok.pl/dialog/main/sub.php?id=50 )

Regards,

Piotr

Gory Gorki Web Site
www.mlhslaw.com/gorygorki.htm

I have set up a basic web site based on the Gorki, Belarus region (Mogilev gub. or obl.), including the nearby, and often hyphenated community of Gory. The site now contains a great map of Jewish communities in Belarus, put together by the Jewish Community there, and "Saba's Hoe" an account of our family's recent trip to the shtetls, with some photographs. More is to come, and this and other materials may in the future also appear as part of the terrific web site at www.jewishgen.org, but I hoped this would be a way to begin sharing our experiences and materials >from this trip.

Shana Tova
Doron Henkin
DHenkin@aol.com

I will welcome advice regarding genealogy software as well as the value of
for-pay genealogy sites.

Boris Krantz
Bedminster, NJ
Searching KRANTZ, PERLIS, YANKOWITZ, WELLER
Email: Boris@KrantzOnline.com

Gory Gorki Web Site
www.mlhslaw.com/gorygorki.htm

I have set up a basic web site based on the Gorki, Belarus region (Mogilev gub. or obl.), including the nearby, and often hyphenated community of Gory. The site now contains a great map of Jewish communities in Belarus, put together by the Jewish Community there, and "Saba's Hoe" an account of our family's recent trip to the shtetls, with some photographs. More is to come, and this and other materials may in the future also appear as part of the terrific web site at www.jewishgen.org, but I hoped this would be a way to begin sharing our experiences and materials >from this trip.

Shana Tova
Doron Henkin
DHenkin@aol.com

I will welcome advice regarding genealogy software as well as the value of
for-pay genealogy sites.

Boris Krantz
Bedminster, NJ
Searching KRANTZ, PERLIS, YANKOWITZ, WELLER
Email: Boris@KrantzOnline.com

Yad Vashem does indeed contain many treasures of interest to family
historians. However, the verdicts of German war crimes trials are all being
collated & published. The web site
http://www1.jur.uva.nl/junsv/JuNSVEng/JuNSV%20English%20homepage.htm
contains various indices of the publications, including a locality index.

There are now indications that translations into English are underway, so it
would pay to check with the contact e-mail before one undertakes a
translations of a verdict. I suspect, though am not sure, that many of the
cases with high local interest have not yet been translated, because it
would make sense to start with the major cases of broader interest to
historians in general, which a case centered in a place like Lida would not
be.

The series of volumes is titled "Justiz und NS-Verbrechen". A few of the
major libraries in the US have it; go to your nearest large library and ask
for an OCLC [aka WorldCat] or RLIN search to see if there's one in your
area. Unless you're near the large east & west coast cities or a Holocaust
Museum with a large collection, chances are there isn't one near you. I
don't know the circulation status of this work - it may be reference
material & not loaned out.

However, there is also a CD with the verdicts to 1999 on it. Below is the
bibiographic entry in "Verzeichnis liefbarer Buecher" [the German Books in
Print] for the CD.

Justiz und NS-Verbrechen / Nazi Crimes on Trial
Sammlung deutscher Strafurteile wegen nationalsozialistischer
Tötungsverbrechen 1945-1999 / The German Judgements on Nazi Capital
Crimes 1945-1999
Hrsg. und bearbeitet von Rüfer, C F / Mildt, C W de.
Redaktion: Bracher, Karl D / Brilman, P M / Dünk, H W von der /
Jeschedt, Hans H /
Rüter, C F / Dressen, Willi
(Saur, K G /SVK) ;

Redaktion: Bracher, Karl D / Brilman, P M / Dunk, H W von der
/ Jescheck, Hans H / Rüter C F / Dressen, Willi
(Saur, K G /SVK) ISBN 3-598-23814-2; ;
235,00 Eur-D / 241,60 Eur-A (unverb. Preisempfehlung);
235,00 Eur-D

I have no financial interest etc. in this work or the company.

The price is within the range of a SIG. When I translated the
Windisch-Werner indictment, the Zentrale Stelle still had control of the
original material. Since then, their archives have been turned over to the
Bundesarchiv, which is quick to refer you to this collection if you ask for
material. You can tell them this isn't readily available & they will then
copy material for you, at page charges on the order of 50 cents to $1. The
material is often sufficiently voluminous that the CD becomes attractive.

I have no experience with getting copyright permission for a translation

from the CD. I had no problems getting permission >from the Zentrale Stelle

at the time I did this work.

If a case did not go to trial, it will not be in this work. The
Bundesarchiv, however, should have some material submitted toward the
dismissal of the case. These materials are held at their original site, not
the standard Bundesarchiv mail address. Correspondence regarding cases
should be sent to:

Bundesarchiv
Aussenstelle Ludwigsburg
Postfach 1144
71611 Ludwigsburg

I'm sure they can handle English correspondence, though I never put them to
the test.

Please do not ask me to translate material that's not closely related to
Lida & the Lida area. The translations I've already done have not been good
for my mental health.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI

Yad Vashem does indeed contain many treasures of interest to family
historians. However, the verdicts of German war crimes trials are all being
collated & published. The web site
http://www1.jur.uva.nl/junsv/JuNSVEng/JuNSV%20English%20homepage.htm
contains various indices of the publications, including a locality index.

There are now indications that translations into English are underway, so it
would pay to check with the contact e-mail before one undertakes a
translations of a verdict. I suspect, though am not sure, that many of the
cases with high local interest have not yet been translated, because it
would make sense to start with the major cases of broader interest to
historians in general, which a case centered in a place like Lida would not
be.

The series of volumes is titled "Justiz und NS-Verbrechen". A few of the
major libraries in the US have it; go to your nearest large library and ask
for an OCLC [aka WorldCat] or RLIN search to see if there's one in your
area. Unless you're near the large east & west coast cities or a Holocaust
Museum with a large collection, chances are there isn't one near you. I
don't know the circulation status of this work - it may be reference
material & not loaned out.

However, there is also a CD with the verdicts to 1999 on it. Below is the
bibiographic entry in "Verzeichnis liefbarer Buecher" [the German Books in
Print] for the CD.

Justiz und NS-Verbrechen / Nazi Crimes on Trial
Sammlung deutscher Strafurteile wegen nationalsozialistischer
Tötungsverbrechen 1945-1999 / The German Judgements on Nazi Capital
Crimes 1945-1999
Hrsg. und bearbeitet von Rüfer, C F / Mildt, C W de.
Redaktion: Bracher, Karl D / Brilman, P M / Dünk, H W von der /
Jeschedt, Hans H /
Rüter, C F / Dressen, Willi
(Saur, K G /SVK) ;

Redaktion: Bracher, Karl D / Brilman, P M / Dunk, H W von der
/ Jescheck, Hans H / Rüter C F / Dressen, Willi
(Saur, K G /SVK) ISBN 3-598-23814-2; ;
235,00 Eur-D / 241,60 Eur-A (unverb. Preisempfehlung);
235,00 Eur-D

I have no financial interest etc. in this work or the company.

The price is within the range of a SIG. When I translated the
Windisch-Werner indictment, the Zentrale Stelle still had control of the
original material. Since then, their archives have been turned over to the
Bundesarchiv, which is quick to refer you to this collection if you ask for
material. You can tell them this isn't readily available & they will then
copy material for you, at page charges on the order of 50 cents to $1. The
material is often sufficiently voluminous that the CD becomes attractive.

I have no experience with getting copyright permission for a translation

from the CD. I had no problems getting permission >from the Zentrale Stelle

at the time I did this work.

If a case did not go to trial, it will not be in this work. The
Bundesarchiv, however, should have some material submitted toward the
dismissal of the case. These materials are held at their original site, not
the standard Bundesarchiv mail address. Correspondence regarding cases
should be sent to:

Bundesarchiv
Aussenstelle Ludwigsburg
Postfach 1144
71611 Ludwigsburg

I'm sure they can handle English correspondence, though I never put them to
the test.

Please do not ask me to translate material that's not closely related to
Lida & the Lida area. The translations I've already done have not been good
for my mental health.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI

Hi Genners,
In looking for a relative who came through Ellis Island, I found
entries for a Moses Rosenmann age 14, and a Moche Rosenmann age
11, travelling together on the same ship on the same date. The
handwritten manifest, of course, is terribly incomplete, so no info
is available there. The text manifest is completely missing >from
the internet site. Here's my question. Could these two boys be
one and the same because they have the same Hebrew name? The
alternate explanation is that they were cousins.

Has anyone found two entries, for the same relative, on the same
ship, with two different ages, and slightly different given names?
Any help is appreciated.

Shana Tova.

Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
So. Florida

Dear Fellow Genealogists:
I would like to know if archival info exists >from 1932 regarding
the charity burial society called Gomel Chesed Shel Emes in Chicago.
A Piser representative told that limited info is available for an
individual that I am researching, specifically, name and date of
passing. It is my hope that more detailed archived info has been
preserved, because perhaps the Rabbi who conducted the service was
able to obtain and record info supplied by the family.
Your feedback will be appreciated.
Thank you.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA

Hello everyone,

My mother and her brothers attended a little old synagogue in
Denver, Colorado >from about the early 1920's, called the "Matsiev"
Synagogue. My uncle looked for it several years ago but could not
find it. He describes it as the old kind of synagogue, where the
men would doven, but with none of the trappings of more modern
communities, such as choirs, etc. Does anyone have any information
on this synagogue, or, more specifically, any records it might hold?

Thank you very much,

Karen Jo Rippens
krippens@earthlink.net

researching:
Handler/Gendler and Fogel, >from Lukov (Matsiev, Maczv, Matzew, Maciew)
Gub. Wolin/Volhynia Ukraine, to Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, USA
Chankes, >from Bulbul to Matsiev, etc.
Zerobnick/Rubin, >from Ostrow-Lubelski to New York, to Ogden, Utah, USA
Muit/Mudd, >from Ostrow Lubelski to New York, Ogden, Utah, USA

Dear Fellow Genealogists:

Do you know of anyone whose ancestor may have been a POW in Stalag
2B in Hammerstein, Germany in WWII? Texas Ranger in the 36th Infantry
Division?

I have heard that many of the people in this particular Stalag were
Serbians and Czechs, as well as several thousand American soldiers.

Also, I am seeking to make contact with WWII Jewish American POW's,
or their families, and hopefully, people that were captured during
the Battle of Cassino, Italy. Perhaps a family member will have info,
too.

I made contat with one such person, and have a list of names kept in
a War Log for an area of Stalag 2B for the 34th Division. If you are
intersted, please conatct me with a name you would like me to check
for you.

Thank you.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA

GOLDMAN/GOLDENBERG/KLEIN/MARCOVICI

Dear Fellow Genners:
If you, or someone you know has a WWII War Log, would you please
let me know if a list of fellow soldiers exists within its pages?
I would like to know if a specific name is listed. Please contact
me personally.
Thank you very much.
Shana Tovah.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA

Hi Genners,
In looking for a relative who came through Ellis Island, I found
entries for a Moses Rosenmann age 14, and a Moche Rosenmann age
11, travelling together on the same ship on the same date. The
handwritten manifest, of course, is terribly incomplete, so no info
is available there. The text manifest is completely missing >from
the internet site. Here's my question. Could these two boys be
one and the same because they have the same Hebrew name? The
alternate explanation is that they were cousins.

Has anyone found two entries, for the same relative, on the same
ship, with two different ages, and slightly different given names?
Any help is appreciated.

Shana Tova.

Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
So. Florida

Dear Fellow Genealogists:
I would like to know if archival info exists >from 1932 regarding
the charity burial society called Gomel Chesed Shel Emes in Chicago.
A Piser representative told that limited info is available for an
individual that I am researching, specifically, name and date of
passing. It is my hope that more detailed archived info has been
preserved, because perhaps the Rabbi who conducted the service was
able to obtain and record info supplied by the family.
Your feedback will be appreciated.
Thank you.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA

Hello everyone,

My mother and her brothers attended a little old synagogue in
Denver, Colorado >from about the early 1920's, called the "Matsiev"
Synagogue. My uncle looked for it several years ago but could not
find it. He describes it as the old kind of synagogue, where the
men would doven, but with none of the trappings of more modern
communities, such as choirs, etc. Does anyone have any information
on this synagogue, or, more specifically, any records it might hold?

Thank you very much,

Karen Jo Rippens
krippens@earthlink.net

researching:
Handler/Gendler and Fogel, >from Lukov (Matsiev, Maczv, Matzew, Maciew)
Gub. Wolin/Volhynia Ukraine, to Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, USA
Chankes, >from Bulbul to Matsiev, etc.
Zerobnick/Rubin, >from Ostrow-Lubelski to New York, to Ogden, Utah, USA
Muit/Mudd, >from Ostrow Lubelski to New York, Ogden, Utah, USA

Dear Fellow Genealogists:

Do you know of anyone whose ancestor may have been a POW in Stalag
2B in Hammerstein, Germany in WWII? Texas Ranger in the 36th Infantry
Division?

I have heard that many of the people in this particular Stalag were
Serbians and Czechs, as well as several thousand American soldiers.

Also, I am seeking to make contact with WWII Jewish American POW's,
or their families, and hopefully, people that were captured during
the Battle of Cassino, Italy. Perhaps a family member will have info,
too.

I made contat with one such person, and have a list of names kept in
a War Log for an area of Stalag 2B for the 34th Division. If you are
intersted, please conatct me with a name you would like me to check
for you.

Thank you.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA

GOLDMAN/GOLDENBERG/KLEIN/MARCOVICI

Dear Fellow Genners:
If you, or someone you know has a WWII War Log, would you please
let me know if a list of fellow soldiers exists within its pages?
I would like to know if a specific name is listed. Please contact
me personally.
Thank you very much.
Shana Tovah.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA