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Re: Burbaickij and Bourbaki #general

Ariel Burbaickij <Ariel.Burbaickij@...>
 

"I bear the name Burbaickij. I have never heard about
the people with the same name, save very close relatives.
I know that my ancestors came >from the deepest Lithuanian
province one can imagine...."

Curiously, this name can be found at least twice in France,
with the French spelling BOURBAKI.
Noooooooooooooo! Bourbaki (mathematicians) were extended nightmare
in some period of my life. I am occasionally not so bad in mathematics
(it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the *group* of
mathematicians in France and general after whom they took their
pseudonym) but some proffesional mathematicians, not so well-versed in
history of mathematics, brought me constantly in relation with non-
existent mathematician Bourbaki saying something like "... uhh . it is not
so bad but not up to the standard of your relative Bourbaki" or something
in this vein. Besides, Bourbaki is not French spelling of my name. ck is
not one sound but two as in VysoCKij, TroCKij and so on.


Yad Vashem information #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Dear Genners:

After several months, I received a response to my email request to Yad
Vashem regarding my former in-laws, Moses and Pearl SILVERSTEIN, long time
residents of Utica, NY. Both were Holacaust survivors.

Included in the information was a photocopy of this card, without
explanation. I think that I understand most of it, but I am hoping that
someone who is certain what it all means can give me feedback. The
following is the text:

TD 382 928

Name: S I L V E R S T E I N Moses
Oder: SILBERSTEIN

BD: 11.3.14 BP: Hamburg NAT: -
------------------------------------------------------------

9.39 - 1940 G. Warschau
40 - 1942 Puschow b. Dembica
42 - 1944 Maidanek b. Lublin
44 - 2.45 Kz.b.Berlin

1.1.47 DP-Lg: Feldafing

1) Uro, Mü.
2) BLEA, Mü. f.

-------------
Thank you,
Marlene Bishow
Potomac, MD
KULPE, SOMMERS: Lithuania, Whales, Birmingham AL, Baltimore, MD
HANTMAN/GANTMAN: Smilovichi, Sverhen', Belarus
HANTMAN/HARTMAN: Norwich, CT, NYC
KATZ: Zhuravno (Galicia), Ukraine, NYC
DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM: Rozniatow (Galicia), Ukraine, NYC
YARMISH, PETT, GOLDSTEIN: I'vya & Wolpa, Belarus, Newtown,CT, NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Burbaickij and Bourbaki #general

Ariel Burbaickij <Ariel.Burbaickij@...>
 

"I bear the name Burbaickij. I have never heard about
the people with the same name, save very close relatives.
I know that my ancestors came >from the deepest Lithuanian
province one can imagine...."

Curiously, this name can be found at least twice in France,
with the French spelling BOURBAKI.
Noooooooooooooo! Bourbaki (mathematicians) were extended nightmare
in some period of my life. I am occasionally not so bad in mathematics
(it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the *group* of
mathematicians in France and general after whom they took their
pseudonym) but some proffesional mathematicians, not so well-versed in
history of mathematics, brought me constantly in relation with non-
existent mathematician Bourbaki saying something like "... uhh . it is not
so bad but not up to the standard of your relative Bourbaki" or something
in this vein. Besides, Bourbaki is not French spelling of my name. ck is
not one sound but two as in VysoCKij, TroCKij and so on.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yad Vashem information #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Dear Genners:

After several months, I received a response to my email request to Yad
Vashem regarding my former in-laws, Moses and Pearl SILVERSTEIN, long time
residents of Utica, NY. Both were Holacaust survivors.

Included in the information was a photocopy of this card, without
explanation. I think that I understand most of it, but I am hoping that
someone who is certain what it all means can give me feedback. The
following is the text:

TD 382 928

Name: S I L V E R S T E I N Moses
Oder: SILBERSTEIN

BD: 11.3.14 BP: Hamburg NAT: -
------------------------------------------------------------

9.39 - 1940 G. Warschau
40 - 1942 Puschow b. Dembica
42 - 1944 Maidanek b. Lublin
44 - 2.45 Kz.b.Berlin

1.1.47 DP-Lg: Feldafing

1) Uro, Mü.
2) BLEA, Mü. f.

-------------
Thank you,
Marlene Bishow
Potomac, MD
KULPE, SOMMERS: Lithuania, Whales, Birmingham AL, Baltimore, MD
HANTMAN/GANTMAN: Smilovichi, Sverhen', Belarus
HANTMAN/HARTMAN: Norwich, CT, NYC
KATZ: Zhuravno (Galicia), Ukraine, NYC
DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM: Rozniatow (Galicia), Ukraine, NYC
YARMISH, PETT, GOLDSTEIN: I'vya & Wolpa, Belarus, Newtown,CT, NYC


Bernstein, Rabbi and Rosh Yeshiva of Uzda #rabbinic

M. Ronn
 

I am seeking information about a certain Rabbi BERNSTEIN (BERNSHTEYN),
the Rabbi and Rosh-Yeshiva of Uzda (formerly in Minsk province). I
would like to know his father's name and any other biographical
information about him. (Later, the renowed Rabbi Moshe Finestein
was the rabbi of the Chassidic community in Uzda. I would also be
interested in knowing what type of Chassidim were in Uzda.)

Thank you,

Michoel Ronn
Brooklyn, NY


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Bernstein, Rabbi and Rosh Yeshiva of Uzda #rabbinic

M. Ronn
 

I am seeking information about a certain Rabbi BERNSTEIN (BERNSHTEYN),
the Rabbi and Rosh-Yeshiva of Uzda (formerly in Minsk province). I
would like to know his father's name and any other biographical
information about him. (Later, the renowed Rabbi Moshe Finestein
was the rabbi of the Chassidic community in Uzda. I would also be
interested in knowing what type of Chassidim were in Uzda.)

Thank you,

Michoel Ronn
Brooklyn, NY


Studying in London 1901 #general

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

Israel Pickholtz writes that in the 1901 Census of England & Wales there
was a

<thirteen year-old Jacob Pickholtz, Russian subject, a student, in
Hayes (Middlesex). I am told that there would not have been anything
particularly Jewish in Hayes >

There was a Jewish Industrial School at Hayes. This was for boys who were
minor offenders or were destitute. Clearly, their 'occupation' in the
Census would be student or scholar.

Harold Pollins


Correction to my e-mail on California Legislation Affecting Indices for Birth and Death Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners:

On September 27th I sent an e-mail to this discussion group announcing
California Governor Davis had signed legislation becoming effective January
1, 2003 regarding restrictions on certain data contained in birth and death
certificates. It has properly been pointed out to me that I erred in my
write-up -for which I apologize. This new law does *not* effect obtaining
the actual birth/death certificates but the indices of the birth and death
certificates -- ( SB 1614- Chapter 712 of the laws of 2002). Some of the
provisions that were effected regarding certain data that would not be
included in birth indices: no mother's maiden name nor father's name; in
death indices: no mother's name nor the father's first name. The new law
also addresses how a government agency may sell or release these indices
and under what conditions the information may be posted on the Internet.
For a complete understanding of the new law please see:
http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_bill_20020919_chaptered.pdf


If this URL appears broken into more than one line, make certain that when
you put it into the URL space it all fits on one line as you must have the
entire URL to get to the site and correct bill.

I have also learned that there was a companion bill enacted and signed
into law that specifically addresses the actual birth and death
certificates. SB 247 (Chapter 914 of the laws of 2002) requires a
written request for a certified copy of a birth or death record that is
accompanied by a notarized statement sworn under penalty of perjury that
the requester is an authorized person- or if the request is made in person
the official will take a sworn statement under penalty of perjury that the
requestor is signing his/her own legal name and is an authorized person.
The certified copy is to be an informational certified copy and
display "Informational, Not A Valid Document To Establish Identity". The
new law also defines/specifies who is an "authorized person" - that is who
may obtain a copy of the birth/death certificate. This definition
specifies specific family members; legal guardians, attorneys under
certain circumstances,&funeral directors. The law also establishes an
additional charge for the certificate and requires that the paper the
certificate be printed on be chemically sensitized security paper. Both
new laws are addressing the concern of identity theft. This law SB 247,
however, goes into effect July 1, 2003 (6 months after SB 1614) with some
sections going into effect later. To better understand the new law please
read it at:

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_0201-0250/sb_247_bill_20020926_chaptered.pdf


If this URL appears broken into more than one line, make certain that when
you put it into the URL space it all fits on one line as you must have the
entire URL to get to the site and correct bill.

Again, I apologize for my misstatement in my original e-mail and hope it
has not unduly inconvenienced anyone.

Jan Meisels Allen
Agoura Hills, CA


"History of the Jewish Communities of Slovakia" 1933. #general

Debbie Raff
 

A few days ago I wrote a post asking if anyone had a particular book on the
religious communities in Hungary and was successful. Aren't the folks on
this newsgroup just great?

I thought that I would try two for two..so, does anyone out there happen to
have a copy of a book titled...

Lanyi Menyhert-Propperne Bekefi Hermin, Szlovenszkoi zsido hitkozsegei
tortenete (History of the Jewish Communities of Slovakia). Kassa, 1933.
(In Hungarian)

I know this may be an obscure book, but figured it was worth the try. If
you happen to have this book, I would really appreciate hearing >from you
privately.

Debbie Raff
California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Studying in London 1901 #general

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

Israel Pickholtz writes that in the 1901 Census of England & Wales there
was a

<thirteen year-old Jacob Pickholtz, Russian subject, a student, in
Hayes (Middlesex). I am told that there would not have been anything
particularly Jewish in Hayes >

There was a Jewish Industrial School at Hayes. This was for boys who were
minor offenders or were destitute. Clearly, their 'occupation' in the
Census would be student or scholar.

Harold Pollins


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Correction to my e-mail on California Legislation Affecting Indices for Birth and Death Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners:

On September 27th I sent an e-mail to this discussion group announcing
California Governor Davis had signed legislation becoming effective January
1, 2003 regarding restrictions on certain data contained in birth and death
certificates. It has properly been pointed out to me that I erred in my
write-up -for which I apologize. This new law does *not* effect obtaining
the actual birth/death certificates but the indices of the birth and death
certificates -- ( SB 1614- Chapter 712 of the laws of 2002). Some of the
provisions that were effected regarding certain data that would not be
included in birth indices: no mother's maiden name nor father's name; in
death indices: no mother's name nor the father's first name. The new law
also addresses how a government agency may sell or release these indices
and under what conditions the information may be posted on the Internet.
For a complete understanding of the new law please see:
http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_bill_20020919_chaptered.pdf


If this URL appears broken into more than one line, make certain that when
you put it into the URL space it all fits on one line as you must have the
entire URL to get to the site and correct bill.

I have also learned that there was a companion bill enacted and signed
into law that specifically addresses the actual birth and death
certificates. SB 247 (Chapter 914 of the laws of 2002) requires a
written request for a certified copy of a birth or death record that is
accompanied by a notarized statement sworn under penalty of perjury that
the requester is an authorized person- or if the request is made in person
the official will take a sworn statement under penalty of perjury that the
requestor is signing his/her own legal name and is an authorized person.
The certified copy is to be an informational certified copy and
display "Informational, Not A Valid Document To Establish Identity". The
new law also defines/specifies who is an "authorized person" - that is who
may obtain a copy of the birth/death certificate. This definition
specifies specific family members; legal guardians, attorneys under
certain circumstances,&funeral directors. The law also establishes an
additional charge for the certificate and requires that the paper the
certificate be printed on be chemically sensitized security paper. Both
new laws are addressing the concern of identity theft. This law SB 247,
however, goes into effect July 1, 2003 (6 months after SB 1614) with some
sections going into effect later. To better understand the new law please
read it at:

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_0201-0250/sb_247_bill_20020926_chaptered.pdf


If this URL appears broken into more than one line, make certain that when
you put it into the URL space it all fits on one line as you must have the
entire URL to get to the site and correct bill.

Again, I apologize for my misstatement in my original e-mail and hope it
has not unduly inconvenienced anyone.

Jan Meisels Allen
Agoura Hills, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "History of the Jewish Communities of Slovakia" 1933. #general

Debbie Raff
 

A few days ago I wrote a post asking if anyone had a particular book on the
religious communities in Hungary and was successful. Aren't the folks on
this newsgroup just great?

I thought that I would try two for two..so, does anyone out there happen to
have a copy of a book titled...

Lanyi Menyhert-Propperne Bekefi Hermin, Szlovenszkoi zsido hitkozsegei
tortenete (History of the Jewish Communities of Slovakia). Kassa, 1933.
(In Hungarian)

I know this may be an obscure book, but figured it was worth the try. If
you happen to have this book, I would really appreciate hearing >from you
privately.

Debbie Raff
California


Re: Homler and Gomel belarus digest: October 01, 2002 #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

"Homeler the same as Gomel?":

I'd agree that the Homeler Society was formed of people >from Gomel. Chester
G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" has only one entry for a town called
Homel, or Gomel. It is located approximately halfway between Mohilev
(Mogilev) and Kiev.

The 1962 Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer shows that Gomel was the name of an
oblast as well as of a town. And the town, 175 miles south of Minsk, was
formerly known as Homel.

I can't explain the reason for a "southern Gomel" and a "northern Gomel."
Were their map coordinates very different?

I ask because the town may have been split by the river, thus suggesting the
"upper" and "lower" or "northern" and "southern" adjectives, (as in Volochisk
and Podwolochisk, for example).


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


JewishGen & Hurricane Lili #yiddish

David Harris <dharris1@...>
 

To the YT&V Membership:

The following message was received >from our JewishGen host located in the
Houston, Texas area.

There is a distinct possibility that Hurricane Lili will hit the Houston
Texas area within the next day or so. Even while we are
watching the storm's progress, we have been preparing, should we be
hit. Everything possible is being done to ensure that
JewishGen loses no data and all our records are safe, but we may be off
line, depending on how severely the area is affected.
Carol Skydell, Vice President,
JewishGen Special Projects


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Homler and Gomel belarus digest: October 01, 2002 #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

"Homeler the same as Gomel?":

I'd agree that the Homeler Society was formed of people >from Gomel. Chester
G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" has only one entry for a town called
Homel, or Gomel. It is located approximately halfway between Mohilev
(Mogilev) and Kiev.

The 1962 Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer shows that Gomel was the name of an
oblast as well as of a town. And the town, 175 miles south of Minsk, was
formerly known as Homel.

I can't explain the reason for a "southern Gomel" and a "northern Gomel."
Were their map coordinates very different?

I ask because the town may have been split by the river, thus suggesting the
"upper" and "lower" or "northern" and "southern" adjectives, (as in Volochisk
and Podwolochisk, for example).


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre JewishGen & Hurricane Lili #yiddish

David Harris <dharris1@...>
 

To the YT&V Membership:

The following message was received >from our JewishGen host located in the
Houston, Texas area.

There is a distinct possibility that Hurricane Lili will hit the Houston
Texas area within the next day or so. Even while we are
watching the storm's progress, we have been preparing, should we be
hit. Everything possible is being done to ensure that
JewishGen loses no data and all our records are safe, but we may be off
line, depending on how severely the area is affected.
Carol Skydell, Vice President,
JewishGen Special Projects


Rav Yehoshuah Falk Katz #rabbinic

Gilbert Hendlisz <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

I came across a short reference about Rav Yehoshua Falk Katz (1555
Lwow- 1614) on a french website. It mentionned that Rav Yehoshuah
Falk Katz, famous Rosh Yeshiva in Lwow, was the son in law of the
"rich" Rav Yisrael Endels, who for decades offered him food and
house.

Has anyone heard about this father in law, the name of the Rav
Yoshuah's wife etc...

Thanks for your answer,

Gilbert Hendlisz
Brussels


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rav Yehoshuah Falk Katz #rabbinic

Gilbert Hendlisz <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

I came across a short reference about Rav Yehoshua Falk Katz (1555
Lwow- 1614) on a french website. It mentionned that Rav Yehoshuah
Falk Katz, famous Rosh Yeshiva in Lwow, was the son in law of the
"rich" Rav Yisrael Endels, who for decades offered him food and
house.

Has anyone heard about this father in law, the name of the Rav
Yoshuah's wife etc...

Thanks for your answer,

Gilbert Hendlisz
Brussels


Looking for information about Gustav GOLDSTAUB. #general

Willie Glaser
 

Looking for information or family of Gustav GOLDSTAUB.
Gustav Goldstaub was born in Frankfurt/M on May 10, 1923. He joined the
First Polish Armoured Division, 24th Lancers tank regiment in England.

Gustav was killed in action September 4, 1944 near Humieres France. He is
probably buried in the Polish Military Cemetery in Lagannerie, France.
Any information is welcome. Thank you.
Willie Glaser, Montreal Canada.


Searching: CRAMER family #general

Hannah Engelstad
 

Dear Genners,
I am searching for the grandchildren/greatgrandchildren of Moshke CRAMER
(any spelling of Cramer)>from Staraya Ushitsa, Ukraine.

My pggf >from Staraya Ushitsa had 4 sons. 2 sons emigrated to Canada in
1920, one of them being my grandfather. They left behind 2 brothers:
Yisroel who did not have any children as far as I know and Moshke. Moshke
had 4(?) children: Yankel, Itzik Meier, Hersh and a sister. At the end of
WWII, we received a letter >from Itzik Meier telling us that his parents
and brother had died and that he was separated >from his brother Hersh and
from his sister. That was the last we heard >from our family in the Ukraine.
Do these names sound "familiar" to any Cramers (Kramer/Kremer/Kraymer
etc.)out there?

Any suggestions as to how to proceed to find this missing family would be
greatly appreciated. The Cramer name >from Staraya Ushitsa is already
listed in the JGFF.

Warmest Regards -

Hannah Cramer Engelstad, London, ON

Researching:
CRAMER (any spelling): Staraya Ushitsa, Ukraine
BREITMAN: >from a shtetl near Staraya Ushitsa, Ukraine
LEKECHMACHER / BERNSTEIN: Zhitomir, Ukraine -> England -> Montreal, Canada
BOGASH / SHAPIRO / PALEYEW: Klektz/Brest Litovsk, Belarus