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Re: A note to the moderator #ukraine

Teresa Snow Galloway <trg1@...>
 

I would just like to speak up in support of the Moderator(s). I don't
expect this to get posted to the list, but I wanted to let the Moderator(s)
know how much they are appreciated. I have been on too many unmoderated or
badly moderated lists that allow excessive unreadable and irrelevant posts
to end up in my mailbox and I always appreciate knowing that every post I
get >from Ukraine-SIG (and other JewishGen lists) will be short, to the point
and on topic. I especially love the "please respond privately" notes. I
wish more lists would encourage that practice.

Thank you for doing a wonderful job, you are certainly appreciated.

Teresa Galloway
Ithaca, NY, USA
trg1@cornell.edu

Researching:
MISCHLEWSKY (later MISSLER) >from Seirijai, Lithuania
KARABOWSKY (later COFFMAN, CARABO and COHEN) >from Seirijai, Lithuania
WEINMAN >from Lutsk or Kolki, Ukraine
ZALMAN >from Kolki, Ukraine

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Franklin" <franklin@bcpl.net>
.... Give us a break. Yahweh will not strike us all
down with his lightning if we fail to capitalize the proper nouns. ENOUGH
ALREADY!

Steve Franklin


Re: A note to the moderator #ukraine

Debbie Raff
 

Not to worry...most of us understand. I, too, was a volunteer moderator.
In my case, it was for the JewishGen Discussion Group. As you (moderator)
said the majority of the time spent is in trying to make posts acceptable
for approval on the group. It is amazing how much time, and energy is spent
on capitalizing surnames, removing taglines, etc.

This job is extremely demanding, and some form of uniformity must exist. The
capitalization of surnames is standard within the genealogical community,
anyway.

Only plain text messages will work with this system, it is not that these
rules are here to purposefully annoy posters.

In fact, I think it is great that the information is provided on the top of
the digest. Not all of the SIGs do this.

Debbie Raff ~ "Create a nice day!"


nasty message to moderator #ukraine

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

Dear Moderator and readers of the Ukraine Digest,
At a time when Israel is under attack by its neighbors and the world, and
when anti-Semitism is erupting again all over Europe, I was saddened to see
a post by someone who attacked not just the rules of Ukraine SIG, but made
nasty comments about Hassidic Jews and Orthodox religious practice.
I found this message anti-Semitic, insulting, and offensive.
I am sorry that the moderators of this forum felt that it had to be posted
in order to give them a chance to explain why the rules are in place.
If the author of this insolent message is Jewish, I am sorry that Jews have
to attack Jews at a time like this.

Anyone who does not like the rules has the right not to use the Digest, and
should not have his criticism dignified with a response.


Hag Sameach,
Haviva Dolgin Langenauer


Captial Letters #ukraine

Alice Keppler <lfoabbey1@...>
 

IN REPLY TO STEVE FRANKLIN'S RATHER RUDE NOTE REGARDING CAPITAL LETTERS:
Steve: I for one like the capital letters because believe it or not,
EVERY POSTING IS NOT RELEVANT TO ME! Therefore, when I browse a posting,
I can IMMEDIATELY see what family is being searched and respond if it
seems to effect my search needs and delete if it doesn't! DUH!

Alice Keppler
Springfield, NJ
Searching: HORN, (GOREN. GUERIN, GORN), ZIMMERMAN, SAFRIS Khotin


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: A note to the moderator #ukraine

Teresa Snow Galloway <trg1@...>
 

I would just like to speak up in support of the Moderator(s). I don't
expect this to get posted to the list, but I wanted to let the Moderator(s)
know how much they are appreciated. I have been on too many unmoderated or
badly moderated lists that allow excessive unreadable and irrelevant posts
to end up in my mailbox and I always appreciate knowing that every post I
get >from Ukraine-SIG (and other JewishGen lists) will be short, to the point
and on topic. I especially love the "please respond privately" notes. I
wish more lists would encourage that practice.

Thank you for doing a wonderful job, you are certainly appreciated.

Teresa Galloway
Ithaca, NY, USA
trg1@cornell.edu

Researching:
MISCHLEWSKY (later MISSLER) >from Seirijai, Lithuania
KARABOWSKY (later COFFMAN, CARABO and COHEN) >from Seirijai, Lithuania
WEINMAN >from Lutsk or Kolki, Ukraine
ZALMAN >from Kolki, Ukraine

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Franklin" <franklin@bcpl.net>
.... Give us a break. Yahweh will not strike us all
down with his lightning if we fail to capitalize the proper nouns. ENOUGH
ALREADY!

Steve Franklin


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: A note to the moderator #ukraine

Debbie Raff
 

Not to worry...most of us understand. I, too, was a volunteer moderator.
In my case, it was for the JewishGen Discussion Group. As you (moderator)
said the majority of the time spent is in trying to make posts acceptable
for approval on the group. It is amazing how much time, and energy is spent
on capitalizing surnames, removing taglines, etc.

This job is extremely demanding, and some form of uniformity must exist. The
capitalization of surnames is standard within the genealogical community,
anyway.

Only plain text messages will work with this system, it is not that these
rules are here to purposefully annoy posters.

In fact, I think it is great that the information is provided on the top of
the digest. Not all of the SIGs do this.

Debbie Raff ~ "Create a nice day!"


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine nasty message to moderator #ukraine

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

Dear Moderator and readers of the Ukraine Digest,
At a time when Israel is under attack by its neighbors and the world, and
when anti-Semitism is erupting again all over Europe, I was saddened to see
a post by someone who attacked not just the rules of Ukraine SIG, but made
nasty comments about Hassidic Jews and Orthodox religious practice.
I found this message anti-Semitic, insulting, and offensive.
I am sorry that the moderators of this forum felt that it had to be posted
in order to give them a chance to explain why the rules are in place.
If the author of this insolent message is Jewish, I am sorry that Jews have
to attack Jews at a time like this.

Anyone who does not like the rules has the right not to use the Digest, and
should not have his criticism dignified with a response.


Hag Sameach,
Haviva Dolgin Langenauer


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Captial Letters #ukraine

Alice Keppler <lfoabbey1@...>
 

IN REPLY TO STEVE FRANKLIN'S RATHER RUDE NOTE REGARDING CAPITAL LETTERS:
Steve: I for one like the capital letters because believe it or not,
EVERY POSTING IS NOT RELEVANT TO ME! Therefore, when I browse a posting,
I can IMMEDIATELY see what family is being searched and respond if it
seems to effect my search needs and delete if it doesn't! DUH!

Alice Keppler
Springfield, NJ
Searching: HORN, (GOREN. GUERIN, GORN), ZIMMERMAN, SAFRIS Khotin


Re: ukraine digest: September 21, 2002 #ukraine

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Dear moderator,

The comments below are nutty. They were delivered in a nasty, vicious way.
I am sorry that you, as moderator, had to receive them and worry about them.

I like having a moderated discussion group. Thank you for taking care of
this, for all of us!

Dan Kazez
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/dk/jmu.html

Don't take this too personally, but your infernal rules are even more
trifling and annoying than the endless minutiae perpetuated by the Hassidim.
Is there some Jewish genetic predisposition to this kind of trivialization
of human existence? Is rational discourse among Jews impossible without the
kind of obsessive compulsive ritualization that should be confined to
orthodox religious practise? Give us a break. Yahweh will not strike us all
down with his lightning if we fail to capitalize the proper nouns. ENOUGH
ALREADY!

Steve Franklin


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: ukraine digest: September 21, 2002 #ukraine

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Dear moderator,

The comments below are nutty. They were delivered in a nasty, vicious way.
I am sorry that you, as moderator, had to receive them and worry about them.

I like having a moderated discussion group. Thank you for taking care of
this, for all of us!

Dan Kazez
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/dk/jmu.html

Don't take this too personally, but your infernal rules are even more
trifling and annoying than the endless minutiae perpetuated by the Hassidim.
Is there some Jewish genetic predisposition to this kind of trivialization
of human existence? Is rational discourse among Jews impossible without the
kind of obsessive compulsive ritualization that should be confined to
orthodox religious practise? Give us a break. Yahweh will not strike us all
down with his lightning if we fail to capitalize the proper nouns. ENOUGH
ALREADY!

Steve Franklin


Radomsko, Poland -- Holocaust #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Gloria Berkenstat Freund and Merav Schejtman have just completed an enormous
(and enormously useful) project: transliteration of a list of persons who
perished in the Holocaust in Radomsko, Poland (a town south of Lodz and
north of Czestochowa).

The transliteration, with 2501 listings, is here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Czesto-Rad/RadomskoML.html

My grandfather was born in Radomsko, and much of my family (TELMAN, OFMAN,
KRZEPICKI) lived there >from about 1885 to the Holocaust.

I hope you will find the work of Gloria Berkenstat Freund and Merav
Schejtman to be useful. I note that this list is carefully arranged by
family. In the original order of the list, adjacent persons bearing the
same surname are often members of one family.

This document was given to me by my Radomsko cousin, Berek Ofman. (He
remained in the Radomsko area, and survived the Holocaust.) So far, we have
found no other copy of this document anywhere in the world. We are working
to find out who prepared this document. For members of my family, I have
found it to be completely accurate as far as recording names of family
members.

We have found it quite informative to compare the names in this document to
the 1000+ names listed in the 1918 Radomsko Voters List.

I look forward to hearing >from (and sharing information with) any persons
with family >from the Radomkso area (Radomsko, Plawno, Czestochowa, Zarki,
Przyrow, Zarki, etc.).

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


Looking for Descendants of Yette Leibovici GOLDENBERG & Louis LEIBOWITZ #general

irabin
 

I am trying to locate descendants of Yette Leibovici Goldenberg & Louis
Leibowitz, who immigrated to States >from Falticeni, Romania.

Yette Leibovici Goldenberg immigrated to States around 1913 and between 1934
and 1964 she lived in Richmond which, is probably in Indiana. She moved in
1964 with her sister Clara Leibovici Luk to Florida.
Their address was:
1504 Michigan ave.
Miami Beach Florida
Yette was married to William Goldenberg and had one daughter and two sons:
1. French - born in 1918
2. James
3. Edward
In 1964 she had five grandsons and one granddaughter. Two of these grandsons
have today 50 years.

Clara Leibovici Luk immigrated to States around 1916. She was married to
Harry Luk. Probably, she has no descendants.

Louis Leibowitz immigrated to States in December 01, 1908 as Leser-Wolf
Leibowitz. He had two daughters and two sons. One of his daughters' name was
Frances. Two his sons in low died in 1964.

The parent's name of Louis, Clara & Yette, were Froim Leibovici and Ita
Moscovici Leibovici, and they died in Falticeni, Romania.

Yette was in contact with my mother, Ida Leibovici Rabinovici up to 1964.


Thank you for any suggestions you might be able to provide me,
Israel Rabin
K. Ata, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Radomsko, Poland -- Holocaust #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Gloria Berkenstat Freund and Merav Schejtman have just completed an enormous
(and enormously useful) project: transliteration of a list of persons who
perished in the Holocaust in Radomsko, Poland (a town south of Lodz and
north of Czestochowa).

The transliteration, with 2501 listings, is here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Czesto-Rad/RadomskoML.html

My grandfather was born in Radomsko, and much of my family (TELMAN, OFMAN,
KRZEPICKI) lived there >from about 1885 to the Holocaust.

I hope you will find the work of Gloria Berkenstat Freund and Merav
Schejtman to be useful. I note that this list is carefully arranged by
family. In the original order of the list, adjacent persons bearing the
same surname are often members of one family.

This document was given to me by my Radomsko cousin, Berek Ofman. (He
remained in the Radomsko area, and survived the Holocaust.) So far, we have
found no other copy of this document anywhere in the world. We are working
to find out who prepared this document. For members of my family, I have
found it to be completely accurate as far as recording names of family
members.

We have found it quite informative to compare the names in this document to
the 1000+ names listed in the 1918 Radomsko Voters List.

I look forward to hearing >from (and sharing information with) any persons
with family >from the Radomkso area (Radomsko, Plawno, Czestochowa, Zarki,
Przyrow, Zarki, etc.).

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Descendants of Yette Leibovici GOLDENBERG & Louis LEIBOWITZ #general

irabin
 

I am trying to locate descendants of Yette Leibovici Goldenberg & Louis
Leibowitz, who immigrated to States >from Falticeni, Romania.

Yette Leibovici Goldenberg immigrated to States around 1913 and between 1934
and 1964 she lived in Richmond which, is probably in Indiana. She moved in
1964 with her sister Clara Leibovici Luk to Florida.
Their address was:
1504 Michigan ave.
Miami Beach Florida
Yette was married to William Goldenberg and had one daughter and two sons:
1. French - born in 1918
2. James
3. Edward
In 1964 she had five grandsons and one granddaughter. Two of these grandsons
have today 50 years.

Clara Leibovici Luk immigrated to States around 1916. She was married to
Harry Luk. Probably, she has no descendants.

Louis Leibowitz immigrated to States in December 01, 1908 as Leser-Wolf
Leibowitz. He had two daughters and two sons. One of his daughters' name was
Frances. Two his sons in low died in 1964.

The parent's name of Louis, Clara & Yette, were Froim Leibovici and Ita
Moscovici Leibovici, and they died in Falticeni, Romania.

Yette was in contact with my mother, Ida Leibovici Rabinovici up to 1964.


Thank you for any suggestions you might be able to provide me,
Israel Rabin
K. Ata, Israel


Seeking Polish MONTAG family and descendants #poland #lodz

Alan Glixman
 

Hello all.

My GLIKSMAN family >from Lodz & Pabianice is somehow related to a MONTAG
family >from Poland.

All I know is that in the MONTAG family I am trying to find there are two
girls - Krysia (Krystyna) and Janka who were both born in approx. 1921.
I believe that Krysia is the cousin of Janka.

I do not know what part of Poland they are >from nor exactly how they are
related to my GLIKSMAN family.

I am hoping that someone will recognise these two girls in their family
tree.

Regards

Alan Glixman
Sydney, Australia

Researching:
BROKMAN in Poland; EJDELSZTEJN in Poland; GLIKSMAN in Poland
(Lodz, Pabianice & Warsaw); CHAZAN in Poland; HEYMANN (GEJMAN)
in Poland (Praszka) & Germany (Regensburg); HONIGSTOCK in Poland (Krosno);
KAFTAL in Poland (Lodz); LAPP in Poland; LICHTENSTEIN in Poland & Germany;
MIRTENBAUM in Poland & Canada; MONTAG in Poland;
ZYLBERSZTEJN in Poland;


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Seeking Polish MONTAG family and descendants #lodz #poland

Alan Glixman
 

Hello all.

My GLIKSMAN family >from Lodz & Pabianice is somehow related to a MONTAG
family >from Poland.

All I know is that in the MONTAG family I am trying to find there are two
girls - Krysia (Krystyna) and Janka who were both born in approx. 1921.
I believe that Krysia is the cousin of Janka.

I do not know what part of Poland they are >from nor exactly how they are
related to my GLIKSMAN family.

I am hoping that someone will recognise these two girls in their family
tree.

Regards

Alan Glixman
Sydney, Australia

Researching:
BROKMAN in Poland; EJDELSZTEJN in Poland; GLIKSMAN in Poland
(Lodz, Pabianice & Warsaw); CHAZAN in Poland; HEYMANN (GEJMAN)
in Poland (Praszka) & Germany (Regensburg); HONIGSTOCK in Poland (Krosno);
KAFTAL in Poland (Lodz); LAPP in Poland; LICHTENSTEIN in Poland & Germany;
MIRTENBAUM in Poland & Canada; MONTAG in Poland;
ZYLBERSZTEJN in Poland;


Re: Given Names #general

Rose Elbaum <elbaum@...>
 

I beg to differ with Prof. Esterson. My mother has told me several times
that she lights yahrzeit candles for people >from her town who have no one to
do it for them. Erev Yom Kippur I asked her to tell me for whom she is
lighting candles. One of the people was a male named Buzhi. I asked her
what kind of name that was, and she replied that he was only known as Buzhi.

Rose Elbaum
Potomac, MD

Researching:
BLITZSTEIN, GILDIN >from Trochimbrod, aka Zofyuvka, Ukraine; ROSENFELD, BRATT
from Rafalowka, Manevici, Gorodok, Ukraine; ZAHLER, ROLLER >from Beremyany,
Galicia; BORK, ELBAUM, GORTLER >from Krasnobrod, Poland; SILVERBERG from
Ciechanow, Galicia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Given Names #ukraine

Rose Elbaum <elbaum@...>
 

I beg to differ with Prof. Esterson. My mother has told me several times
that she lights yahrzeit candles for people >from her town who have no one to
do it for them. Erev Yom Kippur I asked her to tell me for whom she is
lighting candles. One of the people was a male named Buzhi. I asked her
what kind of name that was, and she replied that he was only known as Buzhi.

Rose Elbaum
Potomac, MD

Researching:
BLITZSTEIN, GILDIN >from Trochimbrod, aka Zofyuvka, Ukraine; ROSENFELD, BRATT
from Rafalowka, Manevici, Gorodok, Ukraine; ZAHLER, ROLLER >from Beremyany,
Galicia; BORK, ELBAUM, GORTLER >from Krasnobrod, Poland; SILVERBERG from
Ciechanow, Galicia


Re: Help with Russian Regions #ukraine

Rose Elbaum <elbaum@...>
 

Lintz would be the city of Linz in Austria.

Rose Elbaum
Potomac, MD

Researching:
BLITZSTEIN, GILDIN >from Trochimbrod, aka Zofyuvka, Ukraine;
ROSENFELD, BRATT >from Rafalowka, Manevici, Gorodok, Ukraine;
ZAHLER, ROLLER >from Beremyany, Galicia, Ukraine;
BORK, ELBAUM, GORTLER >from Krasnobrod, Poland;
SILVERBERG >from Ciechanow, Galicia.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Help with Russian Regions #ukraine

Rose Elbaum <elbaum@...>
 

Lintz would be the city of Linz in Austria.

Rose Elbaum
Potomac, MD

Researching:
BLITZSTEIN, GILDIN >from Trochimbrod, aka Zofyuvka, Ukraine;
ROSENFELD, BRATT >from Rafalowka, Manevici, Gorodok, Ukraine;
ZAHLER, ROLLER >from Beremyany, Galicia, Ukraine;
BORK, ELBAUM, GORTLER >from Krasnobrod, Poland;
SILVERBERG >from Ciechanow, Galicia.