Date   

JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The JGS of Long Island invites you to attend our September meeting.

Our topic will be *Summer Roundup: News >from Toronto and other Genealogy
Adventures* Members, including Burt Masnick, Rhoda Miller, Nina Sitron
and Renee Steinig, who attended the August International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy will report on new cemetery and vital records indexing
projects, new research strategies, personal finds, networking and much
more >from the conference. The 520 page Conference Syllabus will be on
display.

Date: Tuesday, Sept 24, 2002
Time: 7:30PM
Place: Sunrise Assisted Living (Dining Room)
1231 Old Country Road Plainview, New York
(We are only at this facility in Sept.)

Upcoming meetings will be held at our usual meeting place, the Mid-Island Y
JCC in Plainview.

Admission is free and all are welcome. Bring a sandwich and we'll provide
beverages and dessert. Our Mavens will be available >from 7:00 pm to
tackle your questions.

For more information and directions please contact, Rhoda, rmiller871.

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


San Francisco Bay Area JGS Meeting 9/22/02 #general

Jerome Jacobson <drjj@...>
 

Topic: Highlights of the 22nd International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy

Speakers: Panel of JGS Members

Date: Sunday, September 22

Time: Doors Open 12:30 PM
Program begins 1:00 PM

Location: Fort Mason Center
Building C, Rm 235
Marina Blvd at Buchanan St
San Francisco


Re: Sefardim in Ashkenaz territory #galicia

Mila Begun <mmbegun@...>
 

There is a persistent family myth that our ORLIK family >from Talnoye,
Ukraine, was originally >from Spain, via Denmark. Of course, grains of
salt must be taken with this story since it alledgedly comes >from "crazy
Aunt Rose." Discounted as totally untrue by most of the family because
of the source, it may actually contain some elements of truth.

It's very hard to prove now that our origin was in Spain, but I'm still
trying. One possible (or fantasized) clue is our name, ORLIK, which is
not a very common name for Jews in Eastern Europe, although you do come
across it in Poland. Most of the ORLIKs I've found in my research are
Catholic and >from Czechoslovakia.

ORLIK in Russian, Ukrainian and Polish means "eagle," or as some Russian
friends have advised, ahem, a very small eagle. (Maybe it's only a
chicken hawk???) The word for eagle in Spanish is Aquila. My fantasy
is that the Aquila family changed their name to the equivalent word in
Russian when they arrived. I may never find the truth, but it's a
satisfying imagined scenario.

Mila Begun in NYC

Researching: ORLIK, TALANSKY, ELLIS, YELLISHAVETSKY, BRODSKY from
Talnoye (Talna in Yiddish)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The JGS of Long Island invites you to attend our September meeting.

Our topic will be *Summer Roundup: News >from Toronto and other Genealogy
Adventures* Members, including Burt Masnick, Rhoda Miller, Nina Sitron
and Renee Steinig, who attended the August International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy will report on new cemetery and vital records indexing
projects, new research strategies, personal finds, networking and much
more >from the conference. The 520 page Conference Syllabus will be on
display.

Date: Tuesday, Sept 24, 2002
Time: 7:30PM
Place: Sunrise Assisted Living (Dining Room)
1231 Old Country Road Plainview, New York
(We are only at this facility in Sept.)

Upcoming meetings will be held at our usual meeting place, the Mid-Island Y
JCC in Plainview.

Admission is free and all are welcome. Bring a sandwich and we'll provide
beverages and dessert. Our Mavens will be available >from 7:00 pm to
tackle your questions.

For more information and directions please contact, Rhoda, rmiller871.

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen San Francisco Bay Area JGS Meeting 9/22/02 #general

Jerome Jacobson <drjj@...>
 

Topic: Highlights of the 22nd International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy

Speakers: Panel of JGS Members

Date: Sunday, September 22

Time: Doors Open 12:30 PM
Program begins 1:00 PM

Location: Fort Mason Center
Building C, Rm 235
Marina Blvd at Buchanan St
San Francisco


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re:Sefardim in Ashkenaz territory #ukraine

Mila Begun <mmbegun@...>
 

There is a persistent family myth that our ORLIK family >from Talnoye,
Ukraine, was originally >from Spain, via Denmark. Of course, grains of
salt must be taken with this story since it alledgedly comes >from "crazy
Aunt Rose." Discounted as totally untrue by most of the family because
of the source, it may actually contain some elements of truth.

It's very hard to prove now that our origin was in Spain, but I'm still
trying. One possible (or fantasized) clue is our name, ORLIK, which is
not a very common name for Jews in Eastern Europe, although you do come
across it in Poland. Most of the ORLIKs I've found in my research are
Catholic and >from Czechoslovakia.

ORLIK in Russian, Ukrainian and Polish means "eagle," or as some Russian
friends have advised, ahem, a very small eagle. (Maybe it's only a
chicken hawk???) The word for eagle in Spanish is Aquila. My fantasy
is that the Aquila family changed their name to the equivalent word in
Russian when they arrived. I may never find the truth, but it's a
satisfying imagined scenario.

Mila Begun in NYC

Researching: ORLIK, TALANSKY, ELLIS, YELLISHAVETSKY, BRODSKY from
Talnoye (Talna in Yiddish)


Re: Given names #germany

Mila Begun <mmbegun@...>
 

Ilene Murray has written:
<<There are feminine names of Bracha, Brocha, and Beracha,
but not Bruche.>>

May I gently dispute that statement? In my family there are definitely
two women named Bruche/Brucha.

Additionally, as I work on transliteration projects >from the Mormon
Library's microfilmed vital records of 19th century Poland, I find the
Bruche/Brucha many, many times for females.

Perhaps depending on our sources, we reflect the opinions or findings of
others we have read. Reality tell us to keep our options open,
especially when it comes to variants of given names, IMHO.

Regards,
Mila Begun in NYC

Researching: ORLIK, TALANSKY, ELLIS, YELLISHAVETSKY, BRODSKY from
Talnoye (Talna in Yiddish)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Given names #ukraine

Mila Begun <mmbegun@...>
 

Ilene Murray has written:
<<There are feminine names of Bracha, Brocha, and Beracha,
but not Bruche.>>

May I gently dispute that statement? In my family there are definitely
two women named Bruche/Brucha.

Additionally, as I work on transliteration projects >from the Mormon
Library's microfilmed vital records of 19th century Poland, I find the
Bruche/Brucha many, many times for females.

Perhaps depending on our sources, we reflect the opinions or findings of
others we have read. Reality tell us to keep our options open,
especially when it comes to variants of given names, IMHO.

Regards,
Mila Begun in NYC

Researching: ORLIK, TALANSKY, ELLIS, YELLISHAVETSKY, BRODSKY from
Talnoye (Talna in Yiddish)


Re: BOHORODCZANER and other names #general

NFatouros@...
 

After sending off my response this morning about Ms. Carrie Fisher
Newman's inquiry re the name Bohorodczaner, I did an internet search for
Bohorodczany using the "google" search engine. It turned up one town of
this name in Romania, as well as a description of the Bohorodczany
County that is in Galicia which I found at:

http://www.pgsa.org/townsB.htm

Other sites for places of this name can also be found using "google," and Ms.
Newman should also try typing in Bohorodchany.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: BOHORODCZANER and other names #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

After sending off my response this morning about Ms. Carrie Fisher
Newman's inquiry re the name Bohorodczaner, I did an internet search for
Bohorodczany using the "google" search engine. It turned up one town of
this name in Romania, as well as a description of the Bohorodczany
County that is in Galicia which I found at:

http://www.pgsa.org/townsB.htm

Other sites for places of this name can also be found using "google," and Ms.
Newman should also try typing in Bohorodchany.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Re: BOHORODCZANER and other names #general

NFatouros@...
 

I believe "Bohorodczaner" is a toponym (place name), suggesting that
someone with this name had lived in or had some association with the town.

"Bohorodochany, ( aslo known as Bohordczany, Bohorodoszay Stare, Brodshin,
Brotchin). According to "Where We Once Walked," before WW II this town had
a population of 730, and was 114 kilometers west northwest of Chernovtsy.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: BOHORODCZANER and other names #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

I believe "Bohorodczaner" is a toponym (place name), suggesting that
someone with this name had lived in or had some association with the town.

"Bohorodochany, ( aslo known as Bohordczany, Bohorodoszay Stare, Brodshin,
Brotchin). According to "Where We Once Walked," before WW II this town had
a population of 730, and was 114 kilometers west northwest of Chernovtsy.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Family photos requested by Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum #general

Stanley Diamond
 

One of the presentations at the International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy in August was:

*The History of the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum
and Its Work in Commemorating the Victims of the Camp*

The lecture was given by Teresa Swiebocka, Senior Curator and Head of
Publishing & Information Department.

During the lecture, Ms. Swiebocka indicated that the museum is actively
collecting pre-war photographs of individuals and families deported to
Auschwitz. The syllabus entry for her lecture includes the following
reference:

*... it is important to show not only the history of places and
structures, but above all the story of the people who were deported to
Auschwitz. For this reason, the museum makes every effort to avoid
presenting the victims as anonymous, but instead to return their names,
faces and individual biographies to them.
We have tried to achieve this through a wide range of publications
containing photographs, lists of names of the victims, and their life
stories. We are also constantly engaged in adding to our archival
resources, transcribing accounts and recording interviews with those who
survived, and sending out survey questionnaires addressed not only to
former prisoners, but also to their families. We also try, in our
exhibitions, to show the people who were sent to the camp, and to display
not only material >from the time when the camp was in operation, but also
photographs taken before the war or before the deportations photographs
that depict the world that was irreversibly destroyed as a result of the
Holocaust.*

If you have such photographs, please contact Ms. Swiebocka at:
jarek.mensfelt@auschwitz.org.pl

If you are interested in the text of the syllabus entry for Ms.Swiebocka's
talk, please contact either:
Judy Baston at: JRBaston@aol.com
Stanley Diamond at: SMSDiamond@aol.com

The syllabus entry is being made available courtesy of the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Canada (Toronto) who did such an outstanding job
of hosting the 2002 Conference.

This message has been posted at the request of Ms. Swiebocka who has
reviewed and approved the text.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Labor Camp--Kazakhstan #general

Marisa Katz <mkatz@...>
 

I am trying to find out if there were any records kept >from a labor camp in
Almaty, Kazakhstan during the war. Where should I post this question?


Re: Given names #germany

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Let's not forget that in Sholem Aleichem's "Song of Songs" Buzi is a girl.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

-----Original Message-----
Ilene Murray writes, in part:
Dear Group,

As to the questions:
2. Could Buzie, Buzi, Buzia and Buzi v Bruche all be the same person?
Could that be the same as Bertha?

Buz and Buzi are masculine names. Buzi is a variant of Buz. Bruchel is
also masculine. There are feminine names of Bracha, Brocha, and Beracha,
but not Bruche.

Ilene Kanfer Murray in St. Louis


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family photos requested by Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum #general

Stanley Diamond
 

One of the presentations at the International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy in August was:

*The History of the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum
and Its Work in Commemorating the Victims of the Camp*

The lecture was given by Teresa Swiebocka, Senior Curator and Head of
Publishing & Information Department.

During the lecture, Ms. Swiebocka indicated that the museum is actively
collecting pre-war photographs of individuals and families deported to
Auschwitz. The syllabus entry for her lecture includes the following
reference:

*... it is important to show not only the history of places and
structures, but above all the story of the people who were deported to
Auschwitz. For this reason, the museum makes every effort to avoid
presenting the victims as anonymous, but instead to return their names,
faces and individual biographies to them.
We have tried to achieve this through a wide range of publications
containing photographs, lists of names of the victims, and their life
stories. We are also constantly engaged in adding to our archival
resources, transcribing accounts and recording interviews with those who
survived, and sending out survey questionnaires addressed not only to
former prisoners, but also to their families. We also try, in our
exhibitions, to show the people who were sent to the camp, and to display
not only material >from the time when the camp was in operation, but also
photographs taken before the war or before the deportations photographs
that depict the world that was irreversibly destroyed as a result of the
Holocaust.*

If you have such photographs, please contact Ms. Swiebocka at:
jarek.mensfelt@auschwitz.org.pl

If you are interested in the text of the syllabus entry for Ms.Swiebocka's
talk, please contact either:
Judy Baston at: JRBaston@aol.com
Stanley Diamond at: SMSDiamond@aol.com

The syllabus entry is being made available courtesy of the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Canada (Toronto) who did such an outstanding job
of hosting the 2002 Conference.

This message has been posted at the request of Ms. Swiebocka who has
reviewed and approved the text.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Labor Camp--Kazakhstan #general

Marisa Katz <mkatz@...>
 

I am trying to find out if there were any records kept >from a labor camp in
Almaty, Kazakhstan during the war. Where should I post this question?


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Given names #ukraine

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Let's not forget that in Sholem Aleichem's "Song of Songs" Buzi is a girl.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

-----Original Message-----
Ilene Murray writes, in part:
Dear Group,

As to the questions:
2. Could Buzie, Buzi, Buzia and Buzi v Bruche all be the same person?
Could that be the same as Bertha?

Buz and Buzi are masculine names. Buzi is a variant of Buz. Bruchel is
also masculine. There are feminine names of Bracha, Brocha, and Beracha,
but not Bruche.

Ilene Kanfer Murray in St. Louis


Re: Clifton Park Avenue in Chicago #general

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

Gary Gluck wrote:
==My grandfather lived on the 1500 South block of Clifton Park Ave in
Chicago in 1920.I can no longer find this street on a current map.
Anybody know *what hundred west* this street was?..or what major north
south street it was near?==

While I can't answer this question directly, I can tell you that most
major libraries have atlases >from various time frames. You might find
a map of Chicago >from 1920 and thereby find the street. Good luck.
Please Note: I have modified my *reply to* address in an effort to avoid
automated spam. If you wish to reply to me, use the following address:
jeanne4_98 at yahoo.com.

Barbara Sloan
New Haven, CT

Searching SLATAS/ZLATIS/SLATIS, SANCTON/SANKTIN/SENKTIN,
SLONIMSKY/SLONIMSKI, PASSIN, WEINGER/WENGER--Belarus, Lithuania, Russia,
USA


New DoroTree 2.0 Genealogy Software #general

Joanna Fletcher <jfletcher@...>
 

Subject: New DoroTree 2.0 Genealogy Software

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Managers, JewishGenMall
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