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Re: Lost family in Ukraine-a dead end #ukraine

STANSKY
 

Thanks for your offer to help, Chuck.  We are all from Belaya Tserkov, as far as I know.   This is referred to repeatedly in the ship manifests, old photos, correspondence.  I have envelopes with the street addresses as:  #18 Pomachnia St and #38 Kievski St.  Whether these are house addresses or places to pick up mail, I cannot know.  A Chabad rabbi in Belaya Tserkov sent me photos of the addresses a few years ago, but it looks like it was all rebuilt after the war.  Other Y DNA matches with the Shainsky name come from Ignatova (sp?), closer to Kyiv.  I searched further in Yad Vashem and found Shainski pages with a possible name from the tree in MyHeritage.   Still searching!   Thanks for responding.
Stan Solinsky


Lithuania - Soloveitchik Brothers with Same Given Name #lithuania

Perry Shorris
 

My fourth-great-grandfather was Movsha Shames, and Lithuanian records indicate that his brother was Meyer Soloveitchik - part of the rabbinic dynasty. One of Meyer’s brothers was Moshe Soloveitchik, the rabbi of Kovno in the late 1700s. My understanding is that “Movsha” and “Moshe” are essentially the same name. Could Movsha Shames and Moshe Soloveitchik been brothers, given the normal Ashkenazi tradition of not giving brothers the same given name?


Hatschek (Hungary), Schwartz from Herend, Hungary, Valdhauser (Waldhauser) Hungary #hungary

George Muenz
 

Hello all,


Looking for these surnames.

Hatschek (Hungary), Schwartz from Herend, Hungary, Valdhauser (Waldhauser) Hungary

Also any possible families of Ede Berger and Esther Berger of Csenger or Szamossalyi Hungary’

Thank you
George Muenz
naftalim@... 


Register Now for the IAJGS Virtual Conference (including FREE sessions) #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Chuck Weinstein
 

ANNOUNCING: We are delighted to present the first iteration of the
full conference program to the public. For those of you who have been
waiting to register until you can read more about the offerings - this
announcement is for you.

Go to our website www.iajgs2020.org and click on the Program and
Schedule keys.

You will first find the listing of On Demand sessions, and then the
Live Sessions by schedule including the Free Limited Access Sessions.

You will also notice the Films that are available for viewing during
specified dates during the conference.

Finally, but significantly, you will find the ability to read
descriptions about the speakers and their presentations and can
already download handouts for many of our programs.

There is more to come and the programmers are still formatting this
page, but we wanted to update you now! Go visit www.iajgs2020.org
and register now if you have not already! The full conference fare is
$325 and there is some access to free sessions. So please thank those
who are paying for the conference because it is subsidizing those free
sessions. Thank you!

For the IAJGS Conference Chair,

Chuck Weinstein
Communications Director


What's a Cutter? #usa #general

YaleZuss@...
 

Phil,
 
It may help to determine how "cutting" was done.  If it was a single piece of cloth, cut with a pair of scissors, it's hard to identify fatal scenarios.  If we're talking multiple layers cut with a large knife, I can conceive of that knife inflicting a fatal wound.  Another possibility is a fire in the factory.
 
Particularly if there was a fire, the incident may have been covered in local papers.  If you have your ancestor's date of death, check the next couple of days.
 
--Yale
 
 


Re: Hit a roadblock finding death certificate for NYC: names, certificate number, but no death year #general #usa #belarus

laurackatz@...
 

Hi Rafael,

I had a similar experience to yours while looking for my great-grandfather Solomon Gantcher's death certificate, also after receiving an Ancestry.com hint. It listed his name, his wife's name Pauline, and that of his son Louis, and while it gave the certificate number, there was no date of death. I had always assumed he died in Russia sometime before 1910 and was very surprised to find that he may have died in NYC.

I filled out the NYC Archives order online (leaving out of course the death date) and emailed it with my credit card payment. Within a few days I got a return email with a copy of both sides of the death certificate attached. There was no problem with the missing date for some reason. However, it was not my great-grandfather Solomon's certificate--it was that of his son Louis! When I later checked, I found that another Ancestry.com hint had shown up for my great-grandmother Pauline (Solmon's wife), also with the same certificate number, and this time again for their son Louis. Mystery solved.

It seems Ancestry.com's hints do not in any way say whose death the certificate is for, but just lists the names of the parents, their birthplaces, and the name of their child. There's a separate hint generated for each person on the Ancestry record. This was an unfortunate example of Ancestry's hints sometimes causing more confusion than help.

Laura Katz
Great Barrington MA

LIPITZ - Smiela, Cherkasy, Ukraine
DAN - Veliuona, Kaunas, Lithuania
GOLDBERG - Bialystok, Podlaskie. Poland
GANTCHER - Slonim, Grodno, Belarus


Re: Public School 25 Brooklyn photos from ca. 1913 #photographs

Shelley Mitchell
 


JGS Libraries BOF at IAJGS 2020 Virtual Convention #events #announcements

Michelle Sandler
 

There is going to be for the first time a JGS Libraries and Librarians BOF at the IAJGS virtual convention.  This session will be on the Thursday of the convention at 10:30 am - 11:30 am Pacific Daylight Time.  I will be moderating so come join me.  We will talk about issues affecting our JGS Libraries.  We can talk about creating a master list of Jewish Genealogy relevant books.
 
Michelle Sandler
Orange County California JGS
Librarian


Re: Other names for Yitzchak? #names

Steven I Usdansky
 

My middle name is Ira. My given name gets misspelled somewhat frequently, my surname gets misspelled very frequently, but I've never seen my middle name misspelled.


Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Judy Salomon
 

Finding names of his two daughters.
 
Have you tried looking on Passenger arrival records for their visit to USA.
There were fewer immigrants in the 1930's and you might get lucky.
 
Judy Salomon
New Jersey
 

--
Judith Salomon
VP of Membership, JGS of North Jersey
FREUND Pruchnik, FELDMAUS Lezajnsk
SULTAN, Husiatyn, GOLDBERG Mostiska
SALOMON, HIRSCH, THAL Neumagen, Germany


ViewMate translation request -- German #germany #danzig

adamshemper@...
 

Hello All, 
I've posted a family letter in German from 1914 I need help translating.
The 2 pages are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=83244
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=83243

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you, 
Adam S.


IAJGS Conference Announcement #jgs-iajgs #education #events #announcements

Chuck Weinstein
 

ANNOUNCING: We are delighted to present the first iteration of the full conference program to the public. For those of you who have been waiting to register until you can read more about the offerings - this announcement is for you.

 Go to our website www.iajgs2020.org  and click on the Program and Schedule keys.

 

 You will first find the listing of On Demand sessions, and then the Live Sessions by schedule including the Free Limited Access Sessions.

 

 You will also notice the Films that are available for viewing during specified dates during the conference.

 

 Finally, but significantly, you will find the ability to read descriptions about the speakers and their presentations and can already download handouts for many of our programs.

 

There is more to come and the programmers are still formatting this page, but we wanted to update you now!  Go visit www.iajgs2020.org

 and register now if you have not already! The full conference fare is $325 and there is some access to free sessions. So please thank those who are paying for the conference because it is subsidizing those free sessions. Thank you!

 For the IAJGS Conference Chair,

 

 Chuck Weinstein

 

Communications Director


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Rich friedman
 

My father was a dress cutter starting after WWII. A dress cutter was a person who worked for a company that made dresses. His job was to pull rolls of material back and forth along a long table. When the pile reached a certain height he would put the pattern parts that made up  the dress on top of the pile and would use a machine to cut them out.
 
Rich Friedman
 
SEEKING
POK /POCK - Glubokie, Belarus
KURLANDCHIK- Seta and Jonava, Lithuanaia


Re: Looking for 19thC marriage record in NYC(?) #usa #austria-czech

Sherri Bobish
 


Ilan,

I searched https://stevemorse.org/vital/nymarriages-igg.html?index=bride
with broad parameters on name spelling, etc. and did not find a record using bride's surname Baunstein, or Jaffe (assuming that the following death record is the correct one.)

I did find what may be little Harry Cohen's death record at https://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeath-igg.html
May 2, 1910 Manhattan
Harry Cohen, 20 months old.

A bit more info transcribed at www.familysearch.org
The actual cert will have info on cause of death, and their address.
Name: Harry Cohen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 22 May 1910
Event Place: Manhattan, New York City, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 1
Birth Year (Estimated): 1909
Father's Name: Jacob
Mother's Name: Becky Jaffe
Certificate Number: cn 16413

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ


Re: DNA and Gedmatch #dna

Bob Silverstein
 

GEDmatch is back up.  You might want to change your password.


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Alan Greenberg
 

It makes sense. When I was involved in the garment industry 60 years ago, the electric cutting machines (capable of cutting a pile of fabric 8 or more inches high) offered little protection to the cutter. Many were missing fingers or part of them. Google "stright knife cutting machine" images. Earlier in the century they were probably even more hazardous.

Alan Greenberg
Montreal, Canada


On July 25, 2020 12:34:49 PM EDT, "Phil Karlin via groups.jewishgen.org" <philk=nebasket.com@...> wrote:
Thanks everyone.
Does it make sense that someone could be killed in a work-related accident? I could see injured, but killed?
Maybe it was not work related.

--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Sherri Bobish
 


Judi,

Can you clarify some things about Miksa HIRSCHFELD's wife and two daughters?

Do you mean you do not know their first names, or that you do not know their surname because Miksa's wife re-married?

Did Miksa's wife and two daughters visit your family from abroad, or did they live in the U.S. at the time of their visit around 1930?

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ


Ida Friedman/ Herman and Perl Katz #holocaust

Stuart Kaufer
 

Ida Friedman was the daughter of my maternal Great Uncle David Friedman who was murdered in Auschwitz.  The family lived in Nagytarna.  Ida contacted the family in 1949 and that is the last we heard of her.  She was sent to Stuthof KL and liberated there.   I do not know if she subsequently married or had children.  I have tried the usual avenues but nothing since 1949.   In the chance that this list serve may yield some information I am posting this and requesting information about her niece, Perl Katz.   Herman and Perl Katz lived in Munkacs, survived the war and emigrated to Israel.   I was in touch with them in the 60's when they were still in Munkacs, they had 3 sons, one of whom died.   One son's name was Friedrich.  Perhaps someone on the list knows of them or their children,  Perl and Herman are presumably dead as they were middle aged when I was in touch with them.   Thank you.


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Diane Jacobs
 

For many years if was known by New Yorkers S the rag business.

Diane Jacobs 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Halpern <mark@...>
Date: 7/25/20 10:17 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Cc: Phil Karlin <philk@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Many Jewish immigrants during that period took jobs as a cutter. My father's first job was as a cutter in 1921. A cutter is a person who cuts fabric. I would refer to this business as the "Shmatah" or clothing business. 

Mark Halpern

 

On 2020-07-25 9:55 am, Phil Karlin wrote:

An ancestor was killed in a work-related accident in 1894, in New York City. I can't find anything specific about the accident, but city directories & his children's birth records give his occupation as "Cutter."
Anyone know what that is? What type of business would employ such a person? How might it be dangerous?

thanks,
Phil K.

--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: mtDNA matches #dna

sbloom@...
 

For the most part, you would likely not be able to assume this match's ancestors were your *direct ancestors* even along the direct female line that is traced by mtdna. The issue is that the common ancestor is much more likely to be further back than almost anyone can trace.  They would indeed be cousins, and some of them could be direct ancestors, but you can't assume so.