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Information on TALNA/TALNOYE, Ukraine #ukraine

Roberta Sheps <roberta.sheps@...>
 

I'm looking for information about TALNA/TALNOYE, etc., for a talk that
I'll be giving to my local Jewish Community in October. The sort of
thing I want is, for the second half of the 19th century, the size of
the general population, the size of the Jewish population, the number of
synagogues, number and level of schools (Jewish and otherwise), numbers
of yeshivot (I'm aware of the one yeshiva established by the Twerskys),
the proportion of Jews who attended the yeshivot, nature of the local
economy, occupations followed by Jews, level of general culture-i.e. was
there a theatre, an opera house, museum?, whether the town was a
"hotbed" for any particular philosophy or political school, eg. Yiddish
Communism or any other.

I've done a search on google, and the famous name that comes up most
frequently is Mischa Elman. Aside >from him and the members of the
Twersky family, were there any other well-known residents or descendants
of residents? I have also had a look at most of the databases and
sources available on JewishGen, and aside >from Ted Margulis' monumental
genealogy site, there isn't much in the way of concrete information.

Can anyone point me to fairly easily accessible references, or even give
me some of the above information directly? I live about two hours away
from the nearest Jewish library, so my access to magazines and books is
limited. Inter-library loan is always possible, I know, but on Jewish
references my library can be very obtuse. (Apologies to anyone who works
for the public library system.)

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Sincerely,

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg, Canada)

Searching:
COHEN, KLAIMON and GROSSMAN, Talna (Ukraine); BELOVITSKY(I),
BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/ Montreal; YAFFE:
Wiliez, nr Vilna/ Winnipeg/ Montreal/ North Dakotah; SHEPS, KRASNOW AND
POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Information on TALNA/TALNOYE, Ukraine #ukraine

Roberta Sheps <roberta.sheps@...>
 

I'm looking for information about TALNA/TALNOYE, etc., for a talk that
I'll be giving to my local Jewish Community in October. The sort of
thing I want is, for the second half of the 19th century, the size of
the general population, the size of the Jewish population, the number of
synagogues, number and level of schools (Jewish and otherwise), numbers
of yeshivot (I'm aware of the one yeshiva established by the Twerskys),
the proportion of Jews who attended the yeshivot, nature of the local
economy, occupations followed by Jews, level of general culture-i.e. was
there a theatre, an opera house, museum?, whether the town was a
"hotbed" for any particular philosophy or political school, eg. Yiddish
Communism or any other.

I've done a search on google, and the famous name that comes up most
frequently is Mischa Elman. Aside >from him and the members of the
Twersky family, were there any other well-known residents or descendants
of residents? I have also had a look at most of the databases and
sources available on JewishGen, and aside >from Ted Margulis' monumental
genealogy site, there isn't much in the way of concrete information.

Can anyone point me to fairly easily accessible references, or even give
me some of the above information directly? I live about two hours away
from the nearest Jewish library, so my access to magazines and books is
limited. Inter-library loan is always possible, I know, but on Jewish
references my library can be very obtuse. (Apologies to anyone who works
for the public library system.)

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Sincerely,

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg, Canada)

Searching:
COHEN, KLAIMON and GROSSMAN, Talna (Ukraine); BELOVITSKY(I),
BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/ Montreal; YAFFE:
Wiliez, nr Vilna/ Winnipeg/ Montreal/ North Dakotah; SHEPS, KRASNOW AND
POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area


Re: Rozsahegy #hungary

SVass@...
 

In a message dated 8/11/2002 9:58:13 PM, h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Subject: Surnames in Rozsahegy
From: Jaki <jaki@acadia.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:28:13 -0400

I have been viewing LDS microfilm #2011178, which includes Jewish vital
records for the city of Rozsahegy (present day Ruzomberok, Slovakia, used to
be called Rosenberg in German) for 1871 to 1885. #2011179 continues with
records into early 1900s.

Here is a list of surnames >from the first film. Sorry, but I don't have time
to do look-ups. (This was a bigger town than I expected when I started
writing down all these names, but once I started, I couldn't stop!) If your
surnames are here and you have access to a Family History Library, you can
order these films for yourself. (If you don't have access to an FHL and
really need info, you can contact me privately.

Names of interest >from first film: Marer, Pollak, Schacter, Weil

The last list of names I sent >from Rozsahegy (Ruzomberok, Slovakia) were just
from the first microfilm (#2011178.) Here are some more >from #2011179, which
do not appear in the first one.
Popper, Tauber >>

Dear Jaki
22 miles downstream on the Vag River >from Rozsahegy was the town of Varna
(now Varin) and a little farther was the town of Kotesso (Kotesov). My own
ancestors (My surname was WEIL) appear on the microfilms 2062276 (1-8) and
1924897 (2-4) for these respective towns and relatives married the names of
interest in your list. I assume some relationship and merely wish to pass on
these data to anyone who might be interested. [I can provide a summary of
the WEIL data >from Varin written >from my personal perspective to anyone who
is interested.]

Sam Vass USA


Why the name change? #general

Ron Goldman
 

Here's another instance, though a bit different >from mere
Americanization or translation/ old-new interpretation.

My gf's manifest says that his name was Isaac.
Gm's manifest says that she was 'going to' Itzig.

His naturalization papers are in the name of (Gaeke) Jacob
and he was known as Jacob through the rest of his life. *but*,
his tombstone says he was Itsak Aharon ben Yacov as does
the 1875 census >from the Kaminetz-Podolsky archives, *and*
all of his brothers' tombstones say that they also were
-ben Yacov.

So did my gf take and use his own father's name on this side
of the pond?

Ron Goldman, FL.
preshtek@gate.net


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Rozsahegy #hungary

SVass@...
 

In a message dated 8/11/2002 9:58:13 PM, h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Subject: Surnames in Rozsahegy
From: Jaki <jaki@acadia.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:28:13 -0400

I have been viewing LDS microfilm #2011178, which includes Jewish vital
records for the city of Rozsahegy (present day Ruzomberok, Slovakia, used to
be called Rosenberg in German) for 1871 to 1885. #2011179 continues with
records into early 1900s.

Here is a list of surnames >from the first film. Sorry, but I don't have time
to do look-ups. (This was a bigger town than I expected when I started
writing down all these names, but once I started, I couldn't stop!) If your
surnames are here and you have access to a Family History Library, you can
order these films for yourself. (If you don't have access to an FHL and
really need info, you can contact me privately.

Names of interest >from first film: Marer, Pollak, Schacter, Weil

The last list of names I sent >from Rozsahegy (Ruzomberok, Slovakia) were just
from the first microfilm (#2011178.) Here are some more >from #2011179, which
do not appear in the first one.
Popper, Tauber >>

Dear Jaki
22 miles downstream on the Vag River >from Rozsahegy was the town of Varna
(now Varin) and a little farther was the town of Kotesso (Kotesov). My own
ancestors (My surname was WEIL) appear on the microfilms 2062276 (1-8) and
1924897 (2-4) for these respective towns and relatives married the names of
interest in your list. I assume some relationship and merely wish to pass on
these data to anyone who might be interested. [I can provide a summary of
the WEIL data >from Varin written >from my personal perspective to anyone who
is interested.]

Sam Vass USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Why the name change? #general

Ron Goldman
 

Here's another instance, though a bit different >from mere
Americanization or translation/ old-new interpretation.

My gf's manifest says that his name was Isaac.
Gm's manifest says that she was 'going to' Itzig.

His naturalization papers are in the name of (Gaeke) Jacob
and he was known as Jacob through the rest of his life. *but*,
his tombstone says he was Itsak Aharon ben Yacov as does
the 1875 census >from the Kaminetz-Podolsky archives, *and*
all of his brothers' tombstones say that they also were
-ben Yacov.

So did my gf take and use his own father's name on this side
of the pond?

Ron Goldman, FL.
preshtek@gate.net


Cemetery photos #hungary

Bobby Furst <bobby1st@...>
 

My contacts in Eastern Slovakia inform me that in addition to the list
of towns with Jewish cemeteries that I have already posted, the
following towns also have Jewish cemeteries.

Borsa 3 headstones
Streda nad Bodrogom 15
Somotor 45
Velky kamenec 20
Maly Kamenec 10
Maly Mores 15
Oborin 20
Cejkov 10-20
Michalovce- Stranany 15
Ladmovce 25
Velky Saris 50
Nizna Sebastova 100-200
Jaromnice 20

If you are interested in having photos of the headstones in these
cemeteries please contact me off list.

Bobby Furst
Redondo Beach, CA

bobby1st@sprynet.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Cemetery photos #hungary

Bobby Furst <bobby1st@...>
 

My contacts in Eastern Slovakia inform me that in addition to the list
of towns with Jewish cemeteries that I have already posted, the
following towns also have Jewish cemeteries.

Borsa 3 headstones
Streda nad Bodrogom 15
Somotor 45
Velky kamenec 20
Maly Kamenec 10
Maly Mores 15
Oborin 20
Cejkov 10-20
Michalovce- Stranany 15
Ladmovce 25
Velky Saris 50
Nizna Sebastova 100-200
Jaromnice 20

If you are interested in having photos of the headstones in these
cemeteries please contact me off list.

Bobby Furst
Redondo Beach, CA

bobby1st@sprynet.com


Information on Talna/Talnoye, Ukraine #general

Roberta Sheps <roberta.sheps@...>
 

I'm looking for information about Talna/Talnoye, etc., for a
talk that I'll be giving to my local Jewish Community in October.
The sort of thing I want is, for the second half of the 19th
century, the size of the general population, the size of the
Jewish population, the number of synagogues, number and level
of schools (Jewish and otherwise), numbers of yeshivot (I'm aware
of the one yeshiva established by the Twerskys), the proportion
of Jews who attended the yeshivot, nature of the local economy,
occupations followed by Jews, level of general culture-i.e. was
there a theatre, an opera house, museum?, whether the town was a
"hotbed" for any particular philosophy or political school, eg.
Yiddish Communism or any other.

I've done a search on google, and the famous name that comes up
most frequently is Mischa Elman. Aside >from him and the members
of the Twersky family, were there any other well-known residents or
descendants of residents? I have also had a look at most of the
databases and sources available on JewishGen, and aside >from Ted
Margulis' monumental genealogy site, there isn't much in the way
of concrete information.

Can anyone point me to fairly easily accessible references, or
even give me some of the above information directly? I live about
two hours away >from the nearest Jewish library, so my access to
magazines and books is limited. Inter-library loan is always
possible, I know, but on Jewish references my library can be very
obtuse. (Apologies to anyone who works for the public library system.)

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Sincerely,
Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg, Canada)

Searching:
COHEN, KLAIMON and GROSSMAN, Talna (Ukraine); BELOVITSKY(I),
BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/ Montreal; YAFFE:
Wiliez, nr Vilna/ Winnipeg/ Montreal/ North Dakotah; SHEPS, KRASNOW
and POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area


Re: French naturalization #general

daniel.lebovici <daniel.lebovici@...>
 

The "Centre des Archives Contemporaines", based in Fontainebleau,
France (77) hold all the records of French naturalization between
1900 and 1950. With the name, the birthdate, the town where the
people bornt and the naturalization date, you can get all the
informations about people.
Here is the adress:
Centre des Archives Contemporaines
2 rue des Archives
77300 Fontainebleau
France
Tel : 0164317300

An other possibility:
"Les Chercheurs d'AncĂȘtres"
6 rue de l'Oratoire
75001, Paris
France

Daniel Lebovici
Machault
France

Can anyone tell me how to search for French Naturalization records
Aubrey Jacobus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Information on Talna/Talnoye, Ukraine #general

Roberta Sheps <roberta.sheps@...>
 

I'm looking for information about Talna/Talnoye, etc., for a
talk that I'll be giving to my local Jewish Community in October.
The sort of thing I want is, for the second half of the 19th
century, the size of the general population, the size of the
Jewish population, the number of synagogues, number and level
of schools (Jewish and otherwise), numbers of yeshivot (I'm aware
of the one yeshiva established by the Twerskys), the proportion
of Jews who attended the yeshivot, nature of the local economy,
occupations followed by Jews, level of general culture-i.e. was
there a theatre, an opera house, museum?, whether the town was a
"hotbed" for any particular philosophy or political school, eg.
Yiddish Communism or any other.

I've done a search on google, and the famous name that comes up
most frequently is Mischa Elman. Aside >from him and the members
of the Twersky family, were there any other well-known residents or
descendants of residents? I have also had a look at most of the
databases and sources available on JewishGen, and aside >from Ted
Margulis' monumental genealogy site, there isn't much in the way
of concrete information.

Can anyone point me to fairly easily accessible references, or
even give me some of the above information directly? I live about
two hours away >from the nearest Jewish library, so my access to
magazines and books is limited. Inter-library loan is always
possible, I know, but on Jewish references my library can be very
obtuse. (Apologies to anyone who works for the public library system.)

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Sincerely,
Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg, Canada)

Searching:
COHEN, KLAIMON and GROSSMAN, Talna (Ukraine); BELOVITSKY(I),
BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/ Montreal; YAFFE:
Wiliez, nr Vilna/ Winnipeg/ Montreal/ North Dakotah; SHEPS, KRASNOW
and POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: French naturalization #general

daniel.lebovici <daniel.lebovici@...>
 

The "Centre des Archives Contemporaines", based in Fontainebleau,
France (77) hold all the records of French naturalization between
1900 and 1950. With the name, the birthdate, the town where the
people bornt and the naturalization date, you can get all the
informations about people.
Here is the adress:
Centre des Archives Contemporaines
2 rue des Archives
77300 Fontainebleau
France
Tel : 0164317300

An other possibility:
"Les Chercheurs d'AncĂȘtres"
6 rue de l'Oratoire
75001, Paris
France

Daniel Lebovici
Machault
France

Can anyone tell me how to search for French Naturalization records
Aubrey Jacobus


Re: Kashruth in Steerage #general

buffmufin
 

Does anyone know how and what steerage passenger were fed during
trans-atlantic crossings? I am especially interested if it was
possible to observe kashruth.
There is a wonderful (but dismal) article to read, which will
make you admire your ancestors even more.....after seeing what
they went through.

Balch Online Resources article, titled "Steerage Experience"

I can't get the link, but if you do a websearch for "steerage
conditions" you will find an article about the congressional
investigation, with 'undercover' passengers. It's at the Balch
Institute Website. As I recall >from reading it previously, many
people brought their own food.

Hope this helps.

Carol Kunkis Cohn
Newport Beach, CA

Searching:
KOSSOI, PEVTSOV: Vetka, Chechersk, Belarus
SKOLNIKOF: Vetka, Belarus
KUNKIS, LEHMAN: Glubokoye, Belarus
SCHRIER, PACHTER: Yarmolinits, Kam-Podolsk, Ukraine
LEIBOWITZ, GRUZINSKY: Kelme, Lithuania


SHTERNFELD of Bialystok, Poland #general

arnonh@...
 

Hello!

I'm looking for any information about the following:
Yaacov (was murderd in the holocaust) & Michal (died young, were
in USA some years before her marriage) SHTERNFELD.

Their sons (b. ~1910s):
* Israel
* Shalom - immigrated to Israel in 1939 on the "Tiger Hill".

Unfortunally, this is the information I have.

If something rings a bell, please let me know.
Please respond to the e-mail in my signature!

Arnon Hershkovitz
A1Z2@HOTMAIL.CO.IL


Slopsellers #general

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

Jackye Sullins wrote:

< I want to point out that a slopseller is a person who made uniforms
for the British military. I was under the impression that he sold or
collected garbage but recently learned that is not the case. It's a
strange name but that *is* the occupation - clothing. >

She is right that it was an occupation to do with clothing but wrong
that it referred to the making of military uniforms. Slop was the name
given to cheap, inferior clothes, thus a slopseller was a shopkeeper
who sold them.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England

MODERATOR NOTE: This discussion has drifted away >from Jewish
genealogy. Further comments on the meaning of this term should
be transmitted privately.


Viewmate- yiddish translation and thanks #general

M & M. Schejtman <mario_m@...>
 

Hello
We would like to thank all the wonderful people who helped us
with our Russian postcard translation.
Unfortunately no one as yet has helped with the Yiddish.
Can someone please look at these two postcards and lend a
helping hand?

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1662.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1663.html

TIA
Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem Israel


Meaning and origin of the surname PSINPSIA #general

Primpark@...
 

I have recently discovered that the maiden surname of one of my
g-g-grandmothers might have been PSINPSIA.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the possible meaning and/or origin
of this extremely unusual surname (I only found six PSINPSIA records
on the entire JRI-Poland database)? Initially, I wondered whether
the name could have been transcribed incorrectly. However, as the
spelling is exactly the same in each of the records, I think this
must represent a fairly faithful rendition of the original surname.

Many thanks in advance - and please respond privately.

Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England
primpark@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kashruth in Steerage #general

buffmufin
 

Does anyone know how and what steerage passenger were fed during
trans-atlantic crossings? I am especially interested if it was
possible to observe kashruth.
There is a wonderful (but dismal) article to read, which will
make you admire your ancestors even more.....after seeing what
they went through.

Balch Online Resources article, titled "Steerage Experience"

I can't get the link, but if you do a websearch for "steerage
conditions" you will find an article about the congressional
investigation, with 'undercover' passengers. It's at the Balch
Institute Website. As I recall >from reading it previously, many
people brought their own food.

Hope this helps.

Carol Kunkis Cohn
Newport Beach, CA

Searching:
KOSSOI, PEVTSOV: Vetka, Chechersk, Belarus
SKOLNIKOF: Vetka, Belarus
KUNKIS, LEHMAN: Glubokoye, Belarus
SCHRIER, PACHTER: Yarmolinits, Kam-Podolsk, Ukraine
LEIBOWITZ, GRUZINSKY: Kelme, Lithuania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SHTERNFELD of Bialystok, Poland #general

arnonh@...
 

Hello!

I'm looking for any information about the following:
Yaacov (was murderd in the holocaust) & Michal (died young, were
in USA some years before her marriage) SHTERNFELD.

Their sons (b. ~1910s):
* Israel
* Shalom - immigrated to Israel in 1939 on the "Tiger Hill".

Unfortunally, this is the information I have.

If something rings a bell, please let me know.
Please respond to the e-mail in my signature!

Arnon Hershkovitz
A1Z2@HOTMAIL.CO.IL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Slopsellers #general

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

Jackye Sullins wrote:

< I want to point out that a slopseller is a person who made uniforms
for the British military. I was under the impression that he sold or
collected garbage but recently learned that is not the case. It's a
strange name but that *is* the occupation - clothing. >

She is right that it was an occupation to do with clothing but wrong
that it referred to the making of military uniforms. Slop was the name
given to cheap, inferior clothes, thus a slopseller was a shopkeeper
who sold them.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England

MODERATOR NOTE: This discussion has drifted away >from Jewish
genealogy. Further comments on the meaning of this term should
be transmitted privately.