Until to day, a lot of jews >from Russia Poland and so
are using the female name Clara
(like Claire in French...).

In numerous cases the :"Clara" name is standing for
the hebreww "Chaia" or Yiddish "Chaie".
In less numbers it is standing for "Chava" (hehbrew)
or "Chave" in Yiddish

Israel Zamir
iczamir@mefalsim.org.il
israelzamir@hotmail.com

Hi,

Can someone tell me about Jewish agricultural collectives in Russia or
point me to a reference?

Does anyone know about one in Karniewo, near Ciechanow/Pultusk north of Warsaw?
I've heard it an elderly relative, born near there, refer to it as an a
Jewish agricultural kibbutz.
The little I know is that there were very few Jews (< 50) and that a
relative owned a
flour mill and bought/processed grain >from local farmers.

I'm interested in both specific information about Karniewo as well as
general information
about Jewish agricultural collectives.

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

Until to day, a lot of jews >from Russia Poland and so
are using the female name Clara
(like Claire in French...).

In numerous cases the :"Clara" name is standing for
the hebreww "Chaia" or Yiddish "Chaie".
In less numbers it is standing for "Chava" (hehbrew)
or "Chave" in Yiddish

Israel Zamir
iczamir@mefalsim.org.il
israelzamir@hotmail.com

Hi,

Can someone tell me about Jewish agricultural collectives in Russia or
point me to a reference?

Does anyone know about one in Karniewo, near Ciechanow/Pultusk north of Warsaw?
I've heard it an elderly relative, born near there, refer to it as an a
Jewish agricultural kibbutz.
The little I know is that there were very few Jews (< 50) and that a
relative owned a
flour mill and bought/processed grain >from local farmers.

I'm interested in both specific information about Karniewo as well as
general information
about Jewish agricultural collectives.

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

shel wrote:

We have a Herman Bercovitz in our tree. He lived came to the US and settled in St. Paul in 1900 and then moved to Los Angeles. I believe he was >from Romania and his name was Bercovici.

More accurately he may have come >from Bukovina which was included at one time in Galicia and now is part of Romania and Ukraine.

He married my great aunt Tina Brucker, also >from Romania.

I wonder if Bercovitz and Berkovitz derive >from the same name, Bercovici or are completely different names.


Shel Brucker
Los Angeles
email: shel@digitalinsight.info
web site: www.BruckerFamily.net

May be it is interesting for you in Switzerland there are 6 Berkowitsch,
4 Berkovics, 9 Berkovits and in Bekescsaba in the orthodox community
were 4 Berkovits listed

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

shel wrote:

We have a Herman Bercovitz in our tree. He lived came to the US and settled in St. Paul in 1900 and then moved to Los Angeles. I believe he was >from Romania and his name was Bercovici.

More accurately he may have come >from Bukovina which was included at one time in Galicia and now is part of Romania and Ukraine.

He married my great aunt Tina Brucker, also >from Romania.

I wonder if Bercovitz and Berkovitz derive >from the same name, Bercovici or are completely different names.


Shel Brucker
Los Angeles
email: shel@digitalinsight.info
web site: www.BruckerFamily.net

May be it is interesting for you in Switzerland there are 6 Berkowitsch,
4 Berkovics, 9 Berkovits and in Bekescsaba in the orthodox community
were 4 Berkovits listed

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Is any one here familiar with the Naveridker Brother's Society?? I have a
relative buried in the society's plot in the Washington Cemetery
Brooklyn NY but can not find any information about the society.

I am especially hoping to find if they had plots in other NYC
cemeteries too in the hope of finding where others in the family were buried.

Any information is greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks so much!!

jessi-ann Rosenbaum
New York, USA
Researching: ROSENBAUM,JACOBS, HERMAN, HASS/HAAS, GARFEIN,GETTENBERG,
LEIBLER,ALTMAN, KREBS, FINGERHOOD/FINGERHUT (Austria to NY USA)

Is any one here familiar with the Naveridker Brother's Society?? I have a
relative buried in the society's plot in the Washington Cemetery
Brooklyn NY but can not find any information about the society.

I am especially hoping to find if they had plots in other NYC
cemeteries too in the hope of finding where others in the family were buried.

Any information is greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks so much!!

jessi-ann Rosenbaum
New York, USA
Researching: ROSENBAUM,JACOBS, HERMAN, HASS/HAAS, GARFEIN,GETTENBERG,
LEIBLER,ALTMAN, KREBS, FINGERHOOD/FINGERHUT (Austria to NY USA)

Another possibility is that the woman had two names
Mariem Itte, which many people had even then.

The man taking down this information may have heard
them as one name. Later the woman simply
preferred the second name.
(My sister never uses her first name!)

David Rothman
Hawthorne, CA 90250-8042

Another possibility is that the woman had two names
Mariem Itte, which many people had even then.

The man taking down this information may have heard
them as one name. Later the woman simply
preferred the second name.
(My sister never uses her first name!)

David Rothman
Hawthorne, CA 90250-8042

Recently, someone posted about the FREIDBERG family. Since then, I
found the following reference to a FREIDBERG related to the LUNTZ
family >from Siauliai, Lithuania:

1. Gaon Rabbi Yechezkel LUNTZ
2. Rabbi Getzel LUNTZ
3. Mordechai LUNTZ
m. Yudita FREIDBERG, >from Kovno (Koshidar)
3. Rabbi Meir LUNTZ
4. Rabbi Yakov Moshe LUNTZ
5. ? LUNTZ
m. Shlomo CHRONZETZKI

The Luntz family was associated with the Kloiz de Aglonim (Carters'
Kloiz) in Siauliai, particularly Rabbi Yehuda Leib LUNTZ.

Unfortunately, I do not have any dates associated with the people
above.

Sorry, but I do not know anything further regarding either of these
two families.

Ann Rabinowitz
mailto:annrab@bellsouth.net

Recently, someone posted about the FREIDBERG family. Since then, I
found the following reference to a FREIDBERG related to the LUNTZ
family >from Siauliai, Lithuania:

1. Gaon Rabbi Yechezkel LUNTZ
2. Rabbi Getzel LUNTZ
3. Mordechai LUNTZ
m. Yudita FREIDBERG, >from Kovno (Koshidar)
3. Rabbi Meir LUNTZ
4. Rabbi Yakov Moshe LUNTZ
5. ? LUNTZ
m. Shlomo CHRONZETZKI

The Luntz family was associated with the Kloiz de Aglonim (Carters'
Kloiz) in Siauliai, particularly Rabbi Yehuda Leib LUNTZ.

Unfortunately, I do not have any dates associated with the people
above.

Sorry, but I do not know anything further regarding either of these
two families.

Ann Rabinowitz
mailto:annrab@bellsouth.net

Hi,

Can someone tell me about Jewish agricultural collectives in Russia or
point me to a reference?

Does anyone know about one in Karniewo, near Ciechanow/Pultusk north of Warsaw?

I've heard it an elderly relative, born near there, refer to it as an a
Jewish agricultural kibbutz.

The little I know is that there were very few Jews (< 50) and that a
relative owned a flour mill and bought/processed
grain >from local farmers.

I'm interested in both specific information about Karniewo as well as
general information about Jewish agricultural collectives.

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

Hi,

Can someone tell me about Jewish agricultural collectives in Russia or
point me to a reference?

Does anyone know about one in Karniewo, near Ciechanow/Pultusk north of Warsaw?

I've heard it an elderly relative, born near there, refer to it as an a
Jewish agricultural kibbutz.

The little I know is that there were very few Jews (< 50) and that a
relative owned a flour mill and bought/processed
grain >from local farmers.

I'm interested in both specific information about Karniewo as well as
general information about Jewish agricultural collectives.

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

In a message dated 8/8/02 7:40:56 PM, Dr. Benjamin Garber
(papaben@inr.net)writes:
<<Geography help needed: I have tracked GARBER or GARBERMAN families down
to two Ukrainian towns, SLOVECHNO and (my direct ancestors) in SLAVUTA.
I'm still researching the coordinates, Shtetlseeker and such. Plesae reply
if you know anything about SLOVECHNO and/or the GARBER or GARBERMAN
families there.>>


I know nothing of Dr. Garber's GARBER or GARBERMAN ancestors, but of
Slovechno my 1962 Columbia Lippincott gazetteer says it was (at least at time
of the gazetteer's printing) an agricultural town, which in 1926 had a
population of 2,223. It is located on the edge of the Pripet marshes, in the
north Zhitomir oblast, 32 miles north northwest of Korosten. It was known for
flax, buckwheat and potatoes.

Miriam Weiner's "Jewish Roots in Ukrainw and Moldova" shows records for
Slavuta are located in Kamenets Podolskiy and for the Slavuta Region in
Khmelnitskiy. She has no listing for Slovechno in particular.




Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

In a message dated 8/8/02 7:40:56 PM, Dr. Benjamin Garber
(papaben@inr.net)writes:
<<Geography help needed: I have tracked GARBER or GARBERMAN families down
to two Ukrainian towns, SLOVECHNO and (my direct ancestors) in SLAVUTA.
I'm still researching the coordinates, Shtetlseeker and such. Plesae reply
if you know anything about SLOVECHNO and/or the GARBER or GARBERMAN
families there.>>


I know nothing of Dr. Garber's GARBER or GARBERMAN ancestors, but of
Slovechno my 1962 Columbia Lippincott gazetteer says it was (at least at time
of the gazetteer's printing) an agricultural town, which in 1926 had a
population of 2,223. It is located on the edge of the Pripet marshes, in the
north Zhitomir oblast, 32 miles north northwest of Korosten. It was known for
flax, buckwheat and potatoes.

Miriam Weiner's "Jewish Roots in Ukrainw and Moldova" shows records for
Slavuta are located in Kamenets Podolskiy and for the Slavuta Region in
Khmelnitskiy. She has no listing for Slovechno in particular.




Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

Hello
I need some research done in the archives at Chisinau for records
pertaining to Ataki.

Does anyone know a researcher that will do the work, at a reasonable
price, or is is just as efficient to write to the archives themselves?

PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY: mgleiser@village.cl

Thanks in advance,
Marcos Gleiser
Santiago, Chile

Searching for GLEIZER,GLEISER,GROISSMAN, Ataki, Moldova

Hello
I need some research done in the archives at Chisinau for records
pertaining to Ataki.

Does anyone know a researcher that will do the work, at a reasonable
price, or is is just as efficient to write to the archives themselves?

PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY: mgleiser@village.cl

Thanks in advance,
Marcos Gleiser
Santiago, Chile

Searching for GLEIZER,GLEISER,GROISSMAN, Ataki, Moldova

Original message:

<< I was surprised to find that family members who had always said they were

from Ekaterinaslov (Dnepropetrovsk) were shown as emigrating >from there but

with a different birthplace in Russia.

Does anyone recognize this town name?

Click the link below to go directly to the scan:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/source/vm1665.html>>

I had a look at the image at Viewmate and thought it said "Russia, Balky".

So I went prowling on the internet and found this website:

http://www.personal.ceu.hu/students/97/Roman_Zakharii/map-bar.gif

It shows a map of the area around Bar, Letichev, Deraznja and other towns.

Very near and east southeast of Bar, is Balky.

If Balky is this town, then its records may be found among those
Miriam Weiner lists for Bar in her "Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova."
Some of these records are located in Vinnitsa, others in Kamenets Podolskiy.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

Original message:

<< I was surprised to find that family members who had always said they were

from Ekaterinaslov (Dnepropetrovsk) were shown as emigrating >from there but

with a different birthplace in Russia.

Does anyone recognize this town name?

Click the link below to go directly to the scan:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/source/vm1665.html>>

I had a look at the image at Viewmate and thought it said "Russia, Balky".

So I went prowling on the internet and found this website:

http://www.personal.ceu.hu/students/97/Roman_Zakharii/map-bar.gif

It shows a map of the area around Bar, Letichev, Deraznja and other towns.

Very near and east southeast of Bar, is Balky.

If Balky is this town, then its records may be found among those
Miriam Weiner lists for Bar in her "Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova."
Some of these records are located in Vinnitsa, others in Kamenets Podolskiy.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.