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audio tape - Toronto conference
#belarus
Penny Gross <p.gross@...>
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<html> As I said yesterday, for those interested in the tapes >from the conference please go to the JGS Toronto website. The link that I inserted didn't work yesterday, so am trying again. It's <a href="http://www.jgstoronto.ca";>www.jgstoronto.ca</a> <p>There's a link on the website "ORDER CONFERENCE AUDIO TAPES HERE". I will try to provide the direct link but am having trouble with my email program. That link is <a href="http://www.jgstoronto2002.ca/Tapes.html";>http://www.jgstoronto2002.ca/Tapes.html</a> <p>Penny Gross</html>
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Re: Crash course need to read Search database -RTR
#belarus
David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
Valerie Miller Fox wrote:
I am interested in archival material pre- 1900's.Valerie and Members of the SIG, The RTR database is an outstand tool to identify what records are available for your shtetl. However, there are some other sources that you should also check and the links can be found on one of our SIG webpages: http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/belarus_records_various_archives.htm One of the links on this page will allow you to get to an official Belarus government website (in English) and search a partial inventory of archive records. I look at what was available under Brest uezd in the Grodno branch of the NHAB and found Jewishe census records for 1795 Fond/inventory 24/7 items 263, 264, 266 - 271, 273, 274, 276. If you look at up Best on the RTR database you find in the Grodno archive the 1808; 1912-1916 census in Fond/Opis/Delo: 2/2/69; 492/1/108-109, 189-191; 492/3/90-94. If you look at http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/grodno_archives.htm, you will see that the 1897 census for Brest uezd shtetls can be found in fond 100, opis 1, delo 66 through 109 of the Grodno branch of the NHAB. The point I am trying to make is that you must look in more then one source. In the above example there are three different inventories of archival holdings and each of them has records listed that the other don't. Dave -- David Fox Mail to: davefox@jewishgen.org Belarus SIG Coordinator Arnold, MD USA http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus
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Belarus SIG #Belarus audio tape - Toronto conference
#belarus
Penny Gross <p.gross@...>
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<html> As I said yesterday, for those interested in the tapes >from the conference please go to the JGS Toronto website. The link that I inserted didn't work yesterday, so am trying again. It's <a href="http://www.jgstoronto.ca";>www.jgstoronto.ca</a> <p>There's a link on the website "ORDER CONFERENCE AUDIO TAPES HERE". I will try to provide the direct link but am having trouble with my email program. That link is <a href="http://www.jgstoronto2002.ca/Tapes.html";>http://www.jgstoronto2002.ca/Tapes.html</a> <p>Penny Gross</html>
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Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Crash course need to read Search database -RTR
#belarus
David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
Valerie Miller Fox wrote:
I am interested in archival material pre- 1900's.Valerie and Members of the SIG, The RTR database is an outstand tool to identify what records are available for your shtetl. However, there are some other sources that you should also check and the links can be found on one of our SIG webpages: http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/belarus_records_various_archives.htm One of the links on this page will allow you to get to an official Belarus government website (in English) and search a partial inventory of archive records. I look at what was available under Brest uezd in the Grodno branch of the NHAB and found Jewishe census records for 1795 Fond/inventory 24/7 items 263, 264, 266 - 271, 273, 274, 276. If you look at up Best on the RTR database you find in the Grodno archive the 1808; 1912-1916 census in Fond/Opis/Delo: 2/2/69; 492/1/108-109, 189-191; 492/3/90-94. If you look at http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/grodno_archives.htm, you will see that the 1897 census for Brest uezd shtetls can be found in fond 100, opis 1, delo 66 through 109 of the Grodno branch of the NHAB. The point I am trying to make is that you must look in more then one source. In the above example there are three different inventories of archival holdings and each of them has records listed that the other don't. Dave -- David Fox Mail to: davefox@jewishgen.org Belarus SIG Coordinator Arnold, MD USA http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus
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Joel-Spain
#belarus
Joel A. Morrow
Good morning >from Madrid-I'm looking for info about my grandparents >from
Dubno ( Dubro ) which today is in Belarus-I think not far >from Minsk-My parents were born there-Murowitzer ( probably Morowitz,and the Kirsners-Anybody have info about this place? -Appreciate it-Thanks-Joel
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Overlap areas with Litvak Sig: Donations
#belarus
LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
I was trying to organize my annual donations and I am now getting a little
confused about some of the districts covered by Litvak SIG and Belarus SIG. My Litvak SIG donation envelope shows Oshmiany District and Lida District, both of which are in Belarus today, or at least parts of them. The political borders, of course, have changed over the years, so it is not a clear-cut determination in that respect. My question is: Which SIG is actually covering these two areas, or are they both (hope we don't get duplication of work), or are they sharing the work? I'm sure I am not the only one who needs some clarification on this. To which SIG should I be sending my donation to support work related to those two areas? Linda Morzillo Saratoga Springs, NY Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com Researching: PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and Oster, Chernigov Gubernia COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany, Vilna and France KOSOFSKY in Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn (Lida Area) SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus
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Donations: Overlap areas with the Belarus Sig
#lithuania
LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
I was trying to organize my annual donations and I am now getting a little
confused about some of the districts covered by Litvak SIG and Belarus SIG. My Litvak SIG donation envelope shows Oshmiany District and Lida District, both of which are in Belarus today, or at least parts of them. The political borders, of course, have changed over the years, so it is not a clear-cut determination in that respect. My question is: Which SIG is actually covering these two areas, or are they both (hope we don't get duplication of work), or are they sharing the work? I'm sure I am not the only one who needs some clarification on this. To which SIG should I be sending my donation to support work related to those two areas? Linda Morzillo Saratoga Springs, NY Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com Researching: PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and Oster, Chernigov Gubernia COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany, Vilna and France KOSOFSKY in Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn (Lida Area) SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus MODERATOR'S NOTE: For records >from the Lida District, both LitvakSIG and the Lida District Researchers under Belarus SIG are working to acquire and translate records, and are in communication with each other to ensure there is no duplication. If you can possibly contribute to both efforts, it would be much appreciated and will maximize the ability to get Lida District records.
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Joel-Spain
#belarus
Joel A. Morrow
Good morning >from Madrid-I'm looking for info about my grandparents >from
Dubno ( Dubro ) which today is in Belarus-I think not far >from Minsk-My parents were born there-Murowitzer ( probably Morowitz,and the Kirsners-Anybody have info about this place? -Appreciate it-Thanks-Joel
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Overlap areas with Litvak Sig: Donations
#belarus
LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
I was trying to organize my annual donations and I am now getting a little
confused about some of the districts covered by Litvak SIG and Belarus SIG. My Litvak SIG donation envelope shows Oshmiany District and Lida District, both of which are in Belarus today, or at least parts of them. The political borders, of course, have changed over the years, so it is not a clear-cut determination in that respect. My question is: Which SIG is actually covering these two areas, or are they both (hope we don't get duplication of work), or are they sharing the work? I'm sure I am not the only one who needs some clarification on this. To which SIG should I be sending my donation to support work related to those two areas? Linda Morzillo Saratoga Springs, NY Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com Researching: PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and Oster, Chernigov Gubernia COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany, Vilna and France KOSOFSKY in Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn (Lida Area) SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Donations: Overlap areas with the Belarus Sig
#lithuania
LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
I was trying to organize my annual donations and I am now getting a little
confused about some of the districts covered by Litvak SIG and Belarus SIG. My Litvak SIG donation envelope shows Oshmiany District and Lida District, both of which are in Belarus today, or at least parts of them. The political borders, of course, have changed over the years, so it is not a clear-cut determination in that respect. My question is: Which SIG is actually covering these two areas, or are they both (hope we don't get duplication of work), or are they sharing the work? I'm sure I am not the only one who needs some clarification on this. To which SIG should I be sending my donation to support work related to those two areas? Linda Morzillo Saratoga Springs, NY Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com Researching: PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and Oster, Chernigov Gubernia COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany, Vilna and France KOSOFSKY in Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn (Lida Area) SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus MODERATOR'S NOTE: For records >from the Lida District, both LitvakSIG and the Lida District Researchers under Belarus SIG are working to acquire and translate records, and are in communication with each other to ensure there is no duplication. If you can possibly contribute to both efforts, it would be much appreciated and will maximize the ability to get Lida District records.
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maharshal
#belarus
Miriam Saltzman <whatever399@...>
Hi
Bette wrote Please excuse my ignorance but what does "Solomon(aka > The Maharshal) Luria who lived in the 1500's." mean? I know there was a famous Rabbi Luria but what does Marharshal mean? Maharshal is most probably an acronym for a famous rabbi. They're very often referred to with acronyms miriam Saltzman Milwaukee, WI whatever399@hotmail.com Interested in ALTSHUL,ALTSHULL - Bobruisk, Belarus KLEINERMAN - Shpikov, Ukraine SALTZMAN, TEPPER,TEPER, ORLANSKY- Poland
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Belarus SIG #Belarus maharshal
#belarus
Miriam Saltzman <whatever399@...>
Hi
Bette wrote Please excuse my ignorance but what does "Solomon(aka > The Maharshal) Luria who lived in the 1500's." mean? I know there was a famous Rabbi Luria but what does Marharshal mean? Maharshal is most probably an acronym for a famous rabbi. They're very often referred to with acronyms miriam Saltzman Milwaukee, WI whatever399@hotmail.com Interested in ALTSHUL,ALTSHULL - Bobruisk, Belarus KLEINERMAN - Shpikov, Ukraine SALTZMAN, TEPPER,TEPER, ORLANSKY- Poland
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Grodno ancestors' arrival - EIDB with Morse's Help
#belarus
Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
Dear Marlene et al:
If I read your message too quickly and missed this, forgive the redundancy. But had you tried the Steve Morse sites, which adapt the EIDB search to special Jewish needs, and permit looser search constraints? If you put in your names, and let the search engine do a D-M soundex search, you stand a very strong chance of finding your people as long as they arrived between 1892 and 1924. (Possibly June 14,1897 to Dec 16, 1900 won't be included, as EI was closed by the infamous fire for that period.Those records are from the Barge Office, and if needed, perhaps someone else - of even JGen's site - can tell how to access them.) These two addresses have served in the past to access Morse's search: http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html http://sites.netscape.net/stephenpmorse/ellis/ellis.html Good luck. Michelle Frager, NYC
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Grodno ancestors' arrival - EIDB with Morse's Help
#belarus
Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
Dear Marlene et al:
If I read your message too quickly and missed this, forgive the redundancy. But had you tried the Steve Morse sites, which adapt the EIDB search to special Jewish needs, and permit looser search constraints? If you put in your names, and let the search engine do a D-M soundex search, you stand a very strong chance of finding your people as long as they arrived between 1892 and 1924. (Possibly June 14,1897 to Dec 16, 1900 won't be included, as EI was closed by the infamous fire for that period.Those records are from the Barge Office, and if needed, perhaps someone else - of even JGen's site - can tell how to access them.) These two addresses have served in the past to access Morse's search: http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html http://sites.netscape.net/stephenpmorse/ellis/ellis.html Good luck. Michelle Frager, NYC
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Two questions about naming conventions
#belarus
Judith Kunofsky <kunofsky@...>
Friends:
(1) Have others seen cases of a woman (born around 1815) giving her children her own father's last name? Given the times, I presume she was married to her children's father. (2) Have others seen cases of this following: a man has a son by a first wife, and much younger children by a second wife. His first son gives some of his own children the same names as the names of his young step-brothers. As you can probably guess, I'm trying to solve some puzzles! Judy -- Judy Kunofsky -- Berkeley, California
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Two questions about naming conventions
#belarus
Judith Kunofsky <kunofsky@...>
Friends:
(1) Have others seen cases of a woman (born around 1815) giving her children her own father's last name? Given the times, I presume she was married to her children's father. (2) Have others seen cases of this following: a man has a son by a first wife, and much younger children by a second wife. His first son gives some of his own children the same names as the names of his young step-brothers. As you can probably guess, I'm trying to solve some puzzles! Judy -- Judy Kunofsky -- Berkeley, California
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Genealogy Meeting East London/London UK
#belarus
A J <genealicej@...>
Fed up with the long, hot and sometimes, as it's the UK, not so hot summer?
Need a fix of genealogy and to chat with like-minded family tree researchers? Able to come to Gants Hill next Tuesday? Just a reminder that all are welcome to the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain East of London Group's next meeting: "Tell Us About Your Family History" evening Tuesday, 27th August 2002 at 7.45pm. Ilford Synagogue 22 Beehive Lane Gants Hill Essex Nearest underground station is Gants Hill on the Central Line Car drivers can get routes >from their doorstep at http://www.mapquest.co.uk We want you to tell us about your family's past, however little or much you know, and we'll all try to help with any brick walls! Our special guest will be journalist and trade unionist Francis Beckett, son of a Mosley Blackshirt, who will also be telling us about the extraordinary twists and turns of his family history and why he has joined the JGSGB. On display will be a number of leaflets, books, computer resources and other information for browsing through with the last half hour of the meeting a chance to socialize over tea and biscuits. Entry is £1 for JGSGB members and £2 for non-members including refreshments. For more information about the JGSGB East of London Group, go to http://jgsgb-eol.tripod.com (there is no www in this URL), email shirley.collier@btopenworld.com or phone 020 8551 0254. You can read about the JGSGB's East of London Group at : http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/search/display.html?nwid=576111 and http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/archived/2002/wk26/ilford/ilffordnews/history.asp. See also "This 'n' That" column of the September issue of Practical Family History. An article is set to appear in the latest issue of the Essex Jewish News. Hope to see you at our next meeting! JGSGB East of London Group Committee posted via Alice Josephs Essex, UK
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Genealogy Meeting East London/London UK
#belarus
A J <genealicej@...>
Fed up with the long, hot and sometimes, as it's the UK, not so hot summer?
Need a fix of genealogy and to chat with like-minded family tree researchers? Able to come to Gants Hill next Tuesday? Just a reminder that all are welcome to the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain East of London Group's next meeting: "Tell Us About Your Family History" evening Tuesday, 27th August 2002 at 7.45pm. Ilford Synagogue 22 Beehive Lane Gants Hill Essex Nearest underground station is Gants Hill on the Central Line Car drivers can get routes >from their doorstep at http://www.mapquest.co.uk We want you to tell us about your family's past, however little or much you know, and we'll all try to help with any brick walls! Our special guest will be journalist and trade unionist Francis Beckett, son of a Mosley Blackshirt, who will also be telling us about the extraordinary twists and turns of his family history and why he has joined the JGSGB. On display will be a number of leaflets, books, computer resources and other information for browsing through with the last half hour of the meeting a chance to socialize over tea and biscuits. Entry is £1 for JGSGB members and £2 for non-members including refreshments. For more information about the JGSGB East of London Group, go to http://jgsgb-eol.tripod.com (there is no www in this URL), email shirley.collier@btopenworld.com or phone 020 8551 0254. You can read about the JGSGB's East of London Group at : http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/search/display.html?nwid=576111 and http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/archived/2002/wk26/ilford/ilffordnews/history.asp. See also "This 'n' That" column of the September issue of Practical Family History. An article is set to appear in the latest issue of the Essex Jewish News. Hope to see you at our next meeting! JGSGB East of London Group Committee posted via Alice Josephs Essex, UK
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Re: Maharshal
#ukraine
Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
There was a question on the meaning of Maharshal when used for Rabbi Shlomo
Luria. The Hebrew is Morenu ha-Rav Shlomo Lura, and it means "Our teacher, the Rabbi, Shlomo Luria." The Encyclopedia Judaica tells us that few biographical details are known about him, but he was important in talmudic commentaries. If you can trace your ancestry to him and can connect to the Katzenellenbogen family, you have an illustrious ancestry and might even be connected to Rashi. Haviva Dolgin Langenauer South Florida
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine re:Maharshal
#ukraine
Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
There was a question on the meaning of Maharshal when used for Rabbi Shlomo
Luria. The Hebrew is Morenu ha-Rav Shlomo Lura, and it means "Our teacher, the Rabbi, Shlomo Luria." The Encyclopedia Judaica tells us that few biographical details are known about him, but he was important in talmudic commentaries. If you can trace your ancestry to him and can connect to the Katzenellenbogen family, you have an illustrious ancestry and might even be connected to Rashi. Haviva Dolgin Langenauer South Florida
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