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audio tape - Toronto conference #belarus

Penny Gross <p.gross@...>
 

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As I said yesterday, for those interested in the tapes >from the conference
please go to the JGS Toronto website.&nbsp; The link that I inserted didn't
work yesterday, so am trying again.&nbsp; It's&nbsp; <a href="http://www.jgstoronto.ca";>www.jgstoronto.ca</a>
<p>There's a link on the website "ORDER CONFERENCE AUDIO TAPES HERE".&nbsp;
I will try to provide the direct link but am having trouble with my email
program.&nbsp; That link is&nbsp; <a href="http://www.jgstoronto2002.ca/Tapes.html";>http://www.jgstoronto2002.ca/Tapes.html</a>
<p>Penny Gross</html>


Re: Crash course need to read Search database -RTR #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

Valerie Miller Fox wrote:
I am interested in archival material pre- 1900's.
Where do I look?
Valerie and Members of the SIG,

The RTR database is an outstand tool to identify what records are available
for your shtetl. However, there are some other sources that you should also
check and the links can be found on one of our SIG webpages:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/belarus_records_various_archives.htm

One of the links on this page will allow you to get to an official Belarus
government website (in English) and search a partial inventory of archive
records. I look at what was available under Brest uezd in the Grodno branch
of the NHAB and found Jewishe census records for 1795 Fond/inventory
24/7 items 263, 264, 266 - 271, 273, 274, 276. If you look at up Best on
the RTR database you find in the Grodno archive the 1808; 1912-1916 census
in Fond/Opis/Delo: 2/2/69; 492/1/108-109, 189-191; 492/3/90-94. If you look
at http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/grodno_archives.htm, you will see that
the 1897 census for Brest uezd shtetls can be found in fond 100, opis 1,
delo 66 through 109 of the Grodno branch of the NHAB.

The point I am trying to make is that you must look in more then one source.
In the above example there are three different inventories of archival
holdings and each of them has records listed that the other don't.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox@jewishgen.org
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus audio tape - Toronto conference #belarus

Penny Gross <p.gross@...>
 

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
As I said yesterday, for those interested in the tapes >from the conference
please go to the JGS Toronto website.&nbsp; The link that I inserted didn't
work yesterday, so am trying again.&nbsp; It's&nbsp; <a href="http://www.jgstoronto.ca";>www.jgstoronto.ca</a>
<p>There's a link on the website "ORDER CONFERENCE AUDIO TAPES HERE".&nbsp;
I will try to provide the direct link but am having trouble with my email
program.&nbsp; That link is&nbsp; <a href="http://www.jgstoronto2002.ca/Tapes.html";>http://www.jgstoronto2002.ca/Tapes.html</a>
<p>Penny Gross</html>


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Crash course need to read Search database -RTR #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

Valerie Miller Fox wrote:
I am interested in archival material pre- 1900's.
Where do I look?
Valerie and Members of the SIG,

The RTR database is an outstand tool to identify what records are available
for your shtetl. However, there are some other sources that you should also
check and the links can be found on one of our SIG webpages:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/belarus_records_various_archives.htm

One of the links on this page will allow you to get to an official Belarus
government website (in English) and search a partial inventory of archive
records. I look at what was available under Brest uezd in the Grodno branch
of the NHAB and found Jewishe census records for 1795 Fond/inventory
24/7 items 263, 264, 266 - 271, 273, 274, 276. If you look at up Best on
the RTR database you find in the Grodno archive the 1808; 1912-1916 census
in Fond/Opis/Delo: 2/2/69; 492/1/108-109, 189-191; 492/3/90-94. If you look
at http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/grodno_archives.htm, you will see that
the 1897 census for Brest uezd shtetls can be found in fond 100, opis 1,
delo 66 through 109 of the Grodno branch of the NHAB.

The point I am trying to make is that you must look in more then one source.
In the above example there are three different inventories of archival
holdings and each of them has records listed that the other don't.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox@jewishgen.org
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Joel-Spain #belarus

Joel A. Morrow
 

Good morning >from Madrid-I'm looking for info about my grandparents >from
Dubno ( Dubro ) which today is in Belarus-I think not far >from Minsk-My
parents were born there-Murowitzer ( probably Morowitz,and the
Kirsners-Anybody have info about this place?
-Appreciate it-Thanks-Joel


Overlap areas with Litvak Sig: Donations #belarus

LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
 

I was trying to organize my annual donations and I am now getting a little
confused about some of the districts covered by Litvak SIG and Belarus SIG.
My Litvak SIG donation envelope shows Oshmiany District and Lida District,
both of which are in Belarus today, or at least parts of them. The
political borders, of course, have changed over the years, so it is not a
clear-cut determination in that respect.

My question is: Which SIG is actually covering these two areas, or are they
both (hope we don't get duplication of work), or are they sharing the work?
I'm sure I am not the only one who needs some clarification on this. To
which SIG should I be sending my donation to support work related to those
two areas?

Linda Morzillo
Saratoga Springs, NY
Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com

Researching:

PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns
AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and
Oster, Chernigov Gubernia
COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany, Vilna and France
KOSOFSKY in Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn (Lida Area)
SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus


Donations: Overlap areas with the Belarus Sig #lithuania

LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
 

I was trying to organize my annual donations and I am now getting a little
confused about some of the districts covered by Litvak SIG and Belarus SIG.
My Litvak SIG donation envelope shows Oshmiany District and Lida District,
both of which are in Belarus today, or at least parts of them. The
political borders, of course, have changed over the years, so it is not a
clear-cut determination in that respect.

My question is: Which SIG is actually covering these two areas, or are they both (hope we don't get duplication of work), or are they sharing the work? I'm sure I am not the only one who needs some clarification on this. To which SIG should I be sending my donation to support work related to those two areas?

Linda Morzillo
Saratoga Springs, NY
Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com

Researching:

PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns
AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and
Oster, Chernigov Gubernia
COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany, Vilna and France
KOSOFSKY in Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn (Lida Area)
SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus

MODERATOR'S NOTE: For records >from the Lida District, both LitvakSIG and the Lida District Researchers under Belarus SIG are working to acquire and translate records, and are in communication with each other to ensure there is no duplication. If you can possibly contribute to both efforts, it would be much appreciated and will maximize the ability to get Lida District records.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Joel-Spain #belarus

Joel A. Morrow
 

Good morning >from Madrid-I'm looking for info about my grandparents >from
Dubno ( Dubro ) which today is in Belarus-I think not far >from Minsk-My
parents were born there-Murowitzer ( probably Morowitz,and the
Kirsners-Anybody have info about this place?
-Appreciate it-Thanks-Joel


Belarus SIG #Belarus Overlap areas with Litvak Sig: Donations #belarus

LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
 

I was trying to organize my annual donations and I am now getting a little
confused about some of the districts covered by Litvak SIG and Belarus SIG.
My Litvak SIG donation envelope shows Oshmiany District and Lida District,
both of which are in Belarus today, or at least parts of them. The
political borders, of course, have changed over the years, so it is not a
clear-cut determination in that respect.

My question is: Which SIG is actually covering these two areas, or are they
both (hope we don't get duplication of work), or are they sharing the work?
I'm sure I am not the only one who needs some clarification on this. To
which SIG should I be sending my donation to support work related to those
two areas?

Linda Morzillo
Saratoga Springs, NY
Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com

Researching:

PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns
AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and
Oster, Chernigov Gubernia
COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany, Vilna and France
KOSOFSKY in Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn (Lida Area)
SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Donations: Overlap areas with the Belarus Sig #lithuania

LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
 

I was trying to organize my annual donations and I am now getting a little
confused about some of the districts covered by Litvak SIG and Belarus SIG.
My Litvak SIG donation envelope shows Oshmiany District and Lida District,
both of which are in Belarus today, or at least parts of them. The
political borders, of course, have changed over the years, so it is not a
clear-cut determination in that respect.

My question is: Which SIG is actually covering these two areas, or are they both (hope we don't get duplication of work), or are they sharing the work? I'm sure I am not the only one who needs some clarification on this. To which SIG should I be sending my donation to support work related to those two areas?

Linda Morzillo
Saratoga Springs, NY
Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com

Researching:

PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns
AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and
Oster, Chernigov Gubernia
COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany, Vilna and France
KOSOFSKY in Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn (Lida Area)
SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus

MODERATOR'S NOTE: For records >from the Lida District, both LitvakSIG and the Lida District Researchers under Belarus SIG are working to acquire and translate records, and are in communication with each other to ensure there is no duplication. If you can possibly contribute to both efforts, it would be much appreciated and will maximize the ability to get Lida District records.


maharshal #belarus

Miriam Saltzman <whatever399@...>
 

Hi
Bette wrote
Please excuse my ignorance but what does "Solomon(aka > The Maharshal)
Luria who lived in the 1500's." mean? I know there was a famous Rabbi Luria
but what does Marharshal mean?

Maharshal is most probably an acronym for a famous rabbi. They're very often
referred to with acronyms

miriam Saltzman
Milwaukee, WI
whatever399@hotmail.com

Interested in
ALTSHUL,ALTSHULL - Bobruisk, Belarus
KLEINERMAN - Shpikov, Ukraine
SALTZMAN, TEPPER,TEPER, ORLANSKY- Poland


Belarus SIG #Belarus maharshal #belarus

Miriam Saltzman <whatever399@...>
 

Hi
Bette wrote
Please excuse my ignorance but what does "Solomon(aka > The Maharshal)
Luria who lived in the 1500's." mean? I know there was a famous Rabbi Luria
but what does Marharshal mean?

Maharshal is most probably an acronym for a famous rabbi. They're very often
referred to with acronyms

miriam Saltzman
Milwaukee, WI
whatever399@hotmail.com

Interested in
ALTSHUL,ALTSHULL - Bobruisk, Belarus
KLEINERMAN - Shpikov, Ukraine
SALTZMAN, TEPPER,TEPER, ORLANSKY- Poland


Grodno ancestors' arrival - EIDB with Morse's Help #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear Marlene et al:

If I read your message too quickly and missed this, forgive the
redundancy. But had you tried the Steve Morse sites, which adapt the
EIDB search to special Jewish needs, and permit looser search
constraints?

If you put in your names, and let the search engine do a D-M soundex
search, you stand a very strong chance of finding your people as long
as they arrived between 1892 and 1924.

(Possibly June 14,1897 to Dec 16, 1900 won't be included, as EI was
closed by the infamous fire for that period.Those records are from
the Barge Office, and if needed, perhaps someone else - of even
JGen's site - can tell how to access them.)

These two addresses have served in the past to access Morse's search:

http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html
http://sites.netscape.net/stephenpmorse/ellis/ellis.html

Good luck.

Michelle Frager, NYC


Belarus SIG #Belarus Grodno ancestors' arrival - EIDB with Morse's Help #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear Marlene et al:

If I read your message too quickly and missed this, forgive the
redundancy. But had you tried the Steve Morse sites, which adapt the
EIDB search to special Jewish needs, and permit looser search
constraints?

If you put in your names, and let the search engine do a D-M soundex
search, you stand a very strong chance of finding your people as long
as they arrived between 1892 and 1924.

(Possibly June 14,1897 to Dec 16, 1900 won't be included, as EI was
closed by the infamous fire for that period.Those records are from
the Barge Office, and if needed, perhaps someone else - of even
JGen's site - can tell how to access them.)

These two addresses have served in the past to access Morse's search:

http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html
http://sites.netscape.net/stephenpmorse/ellis/ellis.html

Good luck.

Michelle Frager, NYC


Two questions about naming conventions #belarus

Judith Kunofsky <kunofsky@...>
 

Friends:

(1) Have others seen cases of a woman (born around 1815) giving her
children her own father's last name? Given the times, I presume she was
married to her children's father.

(2) Have others seen cases of this following: a man has a son by a first
wife, and much younger children by a second wife. His first son gives some
of his own children the same names as the names of his young step-brothers.

As you can probably guess, I'm trying to solve some puzzles!

Judy

-- Judy Kunofsky
-- Berkeley, California


Belarus SIG #Belarus Two questions about naming conventions #belarus

Judith Kunofsky <kunofsky@...>
 

Friends:

(1) Have others seen cases of a woman (born around 1815) giving her
children her own father's last name? Given the times, I presume she was
married to her children's father.

(2) Have others seen cases of this following: a man has a son by a first
wife, and much younger children by a second wife. His first son gives some
of his own children the same names as the names of his young step-brothers.

As you can probably guess, I'm trying to solve some puzzles!

Judy

-- Judy Kunofsky
-- Berkeley, California


Genealogy Meeting East London/London UK #belarus

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Fed up with the long, hot and sometimes, as it's the UK, not so hot summer?
Need a fix of genealogy and to chat with like-minded family tree
researchers? Able to come to Gants Hill next Tuesday?

Just a reminder that all are welcome to the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Great Britain East of London Group's next meeting:

"Tell Us About Your Family History" evening

Tuesday, 27th August 2002 at 7.45pm.

Ilford Synagogue
22 Beehive Lane
Gants Hill
Essex

Nearest underground station is Gants Hill on the Central Line
Car drivers can get routes >from their doorstep at http://www.mapquest.co.uk

We want you to tell us about your family's past, however little or much you
know, and we'll all try to help with any brick walls!

Our special guest will be journalist and trade unionist Francis Beckett, son
of a Mosley Blackshirt, who will also be telling us about the extraordinary
twists and turns of his family history and why he has joined the JGSGB.

On display will be a number of leaflets, books, computer resources and other
information for browsing through with the last half hour of the meeting a
chance to socialize over tea and biscuits. Entry is £1 for JGSGB members and
£2 for non-members including refreshments.

For more information about the JGSGB East of London Group, go to
http://jgsgb-eol.tripod.com (there is no www in this URL), email
shirley.collier@btopenworld.com or phone 020 8551 0254.

You can read about the JGSGB's East of London Group at :

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/search/display.html?nwid=576111
and
http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/archived/2002/wk26/ilford/ilffordnews/history.asp.

See also "This 'n' That" column of the September issue of Practical Family
History.

An article is set to appear in the latest issue of the Essex Jewish News.

Hope to see you at our next meeting!

JGSGB East of London Group Committee

posted via

Alice Josephs
Essex, UK


Belarus SIG #Belarus Genealogy Meeting East London/London UK #belarus

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Fed up with the long, hot and sometimes, as it's the UK, not so hot summer?
Need a fix of genealogy and to chat with like-minded family tree
researchers? Able to come to Gants Hill next Tuesday?

Just a reminder that all are welcome to the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Great Britain East of London Group's next meeting:

"Tell Us About Your Family History" evening

Tuesday, 27th August 2002 at 7.45pm.

Ilford Synagogue
22 Beehive Lane
Gants Hill
Essex

Nearest underground station is Gants Hill on the Central Line
Car drivers can get routes >from their doorstep at http://www.mapquest.co.uk

We want you to tell us about your family's past, however little or much you
know, and we'll all try to help with any brick walls!

Our special guest will be journalist and trade unionist Francis Beckett, son
of a Mosley Blackshirt, who will also be telling us about the extraordinary
twists and turns of his family history and why he has joined the JGSGB.

On display will be a number of leaflets, books, computer resources and other
information for browsing through with the last half hour of the meeting a
chance to socialize over tea and biscuits. Entry is £1 for JGSGB members and
£2 for non-members including refreshments.

For more information about the JGSGB East of London Group, go to
http://jgsgb-eol.tripod.com (there is no www in this URL), email
shirley.collier@btopenworld.com or phone 020 8551 0254.

You can read about the JGSGB's East of London Group at :

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/search/display.html?nwid=576111
and
http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/archived/2002/wk26/ilford/ilffordnews/history.asp.

See also "This 'n' That" column of the September issue of Practical Family
History.

An article is set to appear in the latest issue of the Essex Jewish News.

Hope to see you at our next meeting!

JGSGB East of London Group Committee

posted via

Alice Josephs
Essex, UK


Re: Maharshal #ukraine

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

There was a question on the meaning of Maharshal when used for Rabbi Shlomo
Luria.
The Hebrew is Morenu ha-Rav Shlomo Lura, and it means "Our teacher, the
Rabbi, Shlomo Luria." The Encyclopedia Judaica tells us that few
biographical details are known about him, but he was important in talmudic
commentaries. If you can trace your ancestry to him and can connect to the
Katzenellenbogen family, you have an illustrious ancestry and might even be
connected to Rashi.

Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
South Florida


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine re:Maharshal #ukraine

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

There was a question on the meaning of Maharshal when used for Rabbi Shlomo
Luria.
The Hebrew is Morenu ha-Rav Shlomo Lura, and it means "Our teacher, the
Rabbi, Shlomo Luria." The Encyclopedia Judaica tells us that few
biographical details are known about him, but he was important in talmudic
commentaries. If you can trace your ancestry to him and can connect to the
Katzenellenbogen family, you have an illustrious ancestry and might even be
connected to Rashi.

Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
South Florida