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INTRO - Seeking STRUMPF ISAACS #germany

Miriam Waltch <mickyw@...>
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 1 year.
I consider myself to be novice in doing Genealogy research.
I live in (rural) Idaho in the USA. My native language is English and I
know no other languages. I consider myself advanced in using a computer.
My experience in using the Internet is extensive but intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of all of my
grandparents, but not of my Paternal great grandparents, on my father's
side and the Maternal parents of my mom.

My primary research goals now are to find out, About, Bernard STRUMPF
father of Louis Strumpf grandfather of Max Carl STRUMPF.
I don't know what city or country but my parents said Germany/Prussia
Included in my search of Bernard STRUMPF and his wife "unknown name"

Bernard STRUMPF attended Louis & Fanny's wedding in NY in 1890 when Louis
was 24 (there is a variance of different birthdates which I found is
normal) in the immigrant but on his census it say it says he was born 1869
and she 1868 on the wedding certificate Louis 24 and Fanny 22 nothing more
about Bernard or wife.

There was no wife of Bernard listed on that certificate. Bernard was not
found through any census reports >from there on. I believe there were
brothers of Louis but not in this country so have assumed that after the
wedding Bernard went back to ???

The other search is my mother's mother and father Hiller & Augusta ISAACS
Also >from Germany/Prussia but is not definite >from where.
They also came >from Germany/Prussia and I have found them in the 1880 &
1910 census but don't know where in Germany/Prussia they came >from and can
not find any relatives here in the states.

I would like to get the dates of death. Hiller born 1850 was supposed to
have died when my mom was in her very early teens (she was born 1898) and
her mom Augusta Meyer ISAACS born 1854 died before she married my father in
1922.

I have found two census reports 1880 Division St. Manhattan and 1900 E
89th St. Manhattan nothing more. One odd thing I found on the 1880 Division
St. address was a woman living with them called a "mother in law" named
spelling is hard to decipher and odd since my grandmothers maiden name was
MEYER "Fanni NEWTHIERKER".
She doesn't appear on the 1900 census but her age in 1880 was 66 and also
from Prussia.
My mom Sophie Willa Isaacs STRUMPF, my father Max Carl STRUMPF both
deceased 1976.
I hope someone an at least give me some ideas what to check next.

Miriam 'Micky' Strumpf Waltch Waltch St. Maries (rural) Idaho - USA
<mickyw@earthlink.net>

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSig. You clearly are familiar with US
census records but need some help with doing research in Germany.
When you have time, please review the JewishGen basic guide to research
(FAQ) which is at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>

This will point you to other valuable tools. After reading the FAQ you
will also find helpful information at the GerSig website:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/index.htm>


German SIG #Germany INTRO - Seeking STRUMPF ISAACS #germany

Miriam Waltch <mickyw@...>
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 1 year.
I consider myself to be novice in doing Genealogy research.
I live in (rural) Idaho in the USA. My native language is English and I
know no other languages. I consider myself advanced in using a computer.
My experience in using the Internet is extensive but intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of all of my
grandparents, but not of my Paternal great grandparents, on my father's
side and the Maternal parents of my mom.

My primary research goals now are to find out, About, Bernard STRUMPF
father of Louis Strumpf grandfather of Max Carl STRUMPF.
I don't know what city or country but my parents said Germany/Prussia
Included in my search of Bernard STRUMPF and his wife "unknown name"

Bernard STRUMPF attended Louis & Fanny's wedding in NY in 1890 when Louis
was 24 (there is a variance of different birthdates which I found is
normal) in the immigrant but on his census it say it says he was born 1869
and she 1868 on the wedding certificate Louis 24 and Fanny 22 nothing more
about Bernard or wife.

There was no wife of Bernard listed on that certificate. Bernard was not
found through any census reports >from there on. I believe there were
brothers of Louis but not in this country so have assumed that after the
wedding Bernard went back to ???

The other search is my mother's mother and father Hiller & Augusta ISAACS
Also >from Germany/Prussia but is not definite >from where.
They also came >from Germany/Prussia and I have found them in the 1880 &
1910 census but don't know where in Germany/Prussia they came >from and can
not find any relatives here in the states.

I would like to get the dates of death. Hiller born 1850 was supposed to
have died when my mom was in her very early teens (she was born 1898) and
her mom Augusta Meyer ISAACS born 1854 died before she married my father in
1922.

I have found two census reports 1880 Division St. Manhattan and 1900 E
89th St. Manhattan nothing more. One odd thing I found on the 1880 Division
St. address was a woman living with them called a "mother in law" named
spelling is hard to decipher and odd since my grandmothers maiden name was
MEYER "Fanni NEWTHIERKER".
She doesn't appear on the 1900 census but her age in 1880 was 66 and also
from Prussia.
My mom Sophie Willa Isaacs STRUMPF, my father Max Carl STRUMPF both
deceased 1976.
I hope someone an at least give me some ideas what to check next.

Miriam 'Micky' Strumpf Waltch Waltch St. Maries (rural) Idaho - USA
<mickyw@earthlink.net>

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSig. You clearly are familiar with US
census records but need some help with doing research in Germany.
When you have time, please review the JewishGen basic guide to research
(FAQ) which is at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>

This will point you to other valuable tools. After reading the FAQ you
will also find helpful information at the GerSig website:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/index.htm>


Need volunteer to take lap-top to Poland #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Dear friends of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland:

If you or someone you know is going to Poland in the next
month and can take a small lap-top computer to
Warsaw, please contact me at the address below.

Thank you

Hadassah Lipsius
Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
JRI-Poland


JRI Poland #Poland Need volunteer to take lap-top to Poland #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Dear friends of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland:

If you or someone you know is going to Poland in the next
month and can take a small lap-top computer to
Warsaw, please contact me at the address below.

Thank you

Hadassah Lipsius
Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
JRI-Poland


Re: Mority #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

I would think Moritz, a Eastern European version of Morris. He was
probably Moses in Hebrew. Similarly, I knew a Maurice-Morris with flair.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


Re: Ship arrivals in the 1880's... where #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

You can find ship arrivals in 1884 and much more at you local Mormon
Library. There are also indexed passenger lists for Philadelphia,
Boston, Baltimore, Galveston, and more. It is genealogist's heaven.

Please be aware, though, that NYC passenger lists are not indexed for
that time period, so you will have to look through lots of ships if
you don't know which one they came on. I would suggest checking
things like Hamburg Passenger List indexes first-they may save you
some time and give you information which is lacking on early NYC
passenger lists.

You might not find a person on the ship and year you were told for
several reasons. First, many ships went back and forth between Europe
and NYC. The Darmstadt might have arrived in NY 12 times that year,
did you check all 12 lists? Of course, the information you have could
be wrong-they might have been off by a year or something.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


Ship's Manifest End Sections #general

Howard Relles <rellesh@...>
 

When the Ellis Island Foundation prepared what is now known as the
Ellis Island Database (EIDB), they used the microfilms held by the
National Archives. But, depending on the years of immigration, you
might be able to find additional information if you too go to the
original microfilms yourself. This is especially true right now
while we wait to learn if we will be able to view all the original
manifest pages again via Stephen Morse's or (now) Avotaynu's search
site on the web.

After about 1900 or so, manifests contained two additional sections
at their ends: "Detained Aliens"; and "Aliens Held for Special
Inquiry". In the "Detained Aliens" section, many people were listed
again if the person they were to join in the U.S. had not yet appeared
at Ellis Island to pick them up. (This was especially true for
immigrant women and children.) Most often, this would be the same
person that had been listed on the manifest as the person they were
joining, but not always. In some cases, I've found that the person
who picked them up was different, thus giving a lead to an additonal
family member or friend. Also, the most current address would be given
by the person picking them up and this was often different than what
had appeared on the manifest. This might be of use if you're
interested in going further and finding/confirming them all in a
census or city directory.

The "Aliens Held for Special Inquiry" section details legal proceedings
on anyone whose admission the the U.S. was in question. This could go
either way: "admitted" or "deported". Again, this could be of
importance in any ancestor search.

Howie Relles
Dr. Howard M. Relles
Sarasota, FL; rellesh@yahoo.com
See: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/1890ny.htm
and: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4844.htm
and: http://istg.rootsweb.com/austria_poland_galicia1889.html


REINES #rabbinic

Feinberg, Jeff <feinberg@...>
 

I would like some information on the name REINES.

My great grandfather >from Kaminetz Litovsk was R. Yosef REINES
FANABERJA. Is REINES a title, or a link to another family?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Jeff Feinberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mority #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

I would think Moritz, a Eastern European version of Morris. He was
probably Moses in Hebrew. Similarly, I knew a Maurice-Morris with flair.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ship arrivals in the 1880's... where #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

You can find ship arrivals in 1884 and much more at you local Mormon
Library. There are also indexed passenger lists for Philadelphia,
Boston, Baltimore, Galveston, and more. It is genealogist's heaven.

Please be aware, though, that NYC passenger lists are not indexed for
that time period, so you will have to look through lots of ships if
you don't know which one they came on. I would suggest checking
things like Hamburg Passenger List indexes first-they may save you
some time and give you information which is lacking on early NYC
passenger lists.

You might not find a person on the ship and year you were told for
several reasons. First, many ships went back and forth between Europe
and NYC. The Darmstadt might have arrived in NY 12 times that year,
did you check all 12 lists? Of course, the information you have could
be wrong-they might have been off by a year or something.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ship's Manifest End Sections #general

Howard Relles <rellesh@...>
 

When the Ellis Island Foundation prepared what is now known as the
Ellis Island Database (EIDB), they used the microfilms held by the
National Archives. But, depending on the years of immigration, you
might be able to find additional information if you too go to the
original microfilms yourself. This is especially true right now
while we wait to learn if we will be able to view all the original
manifest pages again via Stephen Morse's or (now) Avotaynu's search
site on the web.

After about 1900 or so, manifests contained two additional sections
at their ends: "Detained Aliens"; and "Aliens Held for Special
Inquiry". In the "Detained Aliens" section, many people were listed
again if the person they were to join in the U.S. had not yet appeared
at Ellis Island to pick them up. (This was especially true for
immigrant women and children.) Most often, this would be the same
person that had been listed on the manifest as the person they were
joining, but not always. In some cases, I've found that the person
who picked them up was different, thus giving a lead to an additonal
family member or friend. Also, the most current address would be given
by the person picking them up and this was often different than what
had appeared on the manifest. This might be of use if you're
interested in going further and finding/confirming them all in a
census or city directory.

The "Aliens Held for Special Inquiry" section details legal proceedings
on anyone whose admission the the U.S. was in question. This could go
either way: "admitted" or "deported". Again, this could be of
importance in any ancestor search.

Howie Relles
Dr. Howard M. Relles
Sarasota, FL; rellesh@yahoo.com
See: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/1890ny.htm
and: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4844.htm
and: http://istg.rootsweb.com/austria_poland_galicia1889.html


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic REINES #rabbinic

Feinberg, Jeff <feinberg@...>
 

I would like some information on the name REINES.

My great grandfather >from Kaminetz Litovsk was R. Yosef REINES
FANABERJA. Is REINES a title, or a link to another family?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Jeff Feinberg


R' Shlomo Zalman MARGOLIS-GORDON #rabbinic

Budd Margolis <budd_margolis@...>
 

I am trying to find out information about the Karmelita, (now a
suburb of Kaunus) Rabbi Shlomo Zalman MARGOLIS-GORDON born: 1850
d: 1932

He lived in Kaunus on Shabli St. 10 He was the elder av Beit and
served as a Rabbi for 51 years.

Rabbi Mast eulogised him. >from Karmilitia, the funeral then went to
the new Beit Midrash where Rabbi Sapiro, Rabbi Rozenson and Rabbi
Manster eulogized him. The obituary stated that at the cemetery
more personalities eulogised him.

His father was Feivel MARGOLIS-GORDON and he had 4 sons and 2
daughters. I do not know his wife's name or Rabbi Shlomo Zalman
MARGOLIS-GORDON's wife's. There may have been two wives.

Please respond privately to:

Budd Margolis
London, UK
mailto:Budd_margolis@compuserve.com


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R' Shlomo Zalman MARGOLIS-GORDON #rabbinic

Budd Margolis <budd_margolis@...>
 

I am trying to find out information about the Karmelita, (now a
suburb of Kaunus) Rabbi Shlomo Zalman MARGOLIS-GORDON born: 1850
d: 1932

He lived in Kaunus on Shabli St. 10 He was the elder av Beit and
served as a Rabbi for 51 years.

Rabbi Mast eulogised him. >from Karmilitia, the funeral then went to
the new Beit Midrash where Rabbi Sapiro, Rabbi Rozenson and Rabbi
Manster eulogized him. The obituary stated that at the cemetery
more personalities eulogised him.

His father was Feivel MARGOLIS-GORDON and he had 4 sons and 2
daughters. I do not know his wife's name or Rabbi Shlomo Zalman
MARGOLIS-GORDON's wife's. There may have been two wives.

Please respond privately to:

Budd Margolis
London, UK
mailto:Budd_margolis@compuserve.com


Trying to find Naomi/Nechama Chidekel WEXLER of California #general

Josie Barnett <josieb@...>
 

For the past year and a half I have been trying to find my World War
II *mystery* survivor cousin >from Sharkovschina (Szarkowszczyzna)
who ended up in California and who may be named as above. A member of
the family lost touch with her about 25 years ago. According to my
understanding she is in her early to mid seventies. I have looked up
details in phone lists and can only find a Nancy WEXLER living in
California. Due to privacy laws etc., I can proceed no further. Maybe
someone on this list may know who she is. Please also bear in mind that
I live in Israel and there are limitations to my research resources.

My purpose for locating her is to help me with my family research and
establish a family contact.

For the groups information, I was formerly subscribed to Jewishgen
under a different email address.

Josie BARNETT
Tekoa, Israel
josieb@savion.cc.huiji.ac.il

Researching: CHIDEKEL Sharkovschinna, CHIDEKEL Kherson Gubernia/
Ukraine?, LEVENE/HANOVITZ Janova (on the border)? WOOD/HOLC Plonsk


Re: Poland Online Directory #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Daniel Kazez" wrote in message

from a message I received today, I am reminded that the online
directory for Poland is not well known, nor is it easy to find.
In case the Polish text on that search page confuses you, I have
recently revised a little guide to this search engine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/
Daniel,

I have been using for some time Poland telephone directory by "TP
Ditel" on line located at

1. To locate an individuals

http://ditel.tpsa.pl/asp/szukaj_a.asp

2. To locate businesses

http://ditel.tpsa.pl/asp/szukaj_f.asp

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta


Re: What is Kharkov Medical Institute? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Marilyn Feingold" wrote

I know my grandmother's nephew Sasha Otelen at one time was a
professor and head of the faculty at this institution. Does
anyone know about this school or know how I can track Sasha's
family >from there? Thanks for your suggestions.
Marilyn Feingold Atlanta Georgia
Kharkov Medical Institute is actually a Medical School (or Medical
University).

It used to be common in Russia (and in the other ex Eastern Block
countries modelled on the Soviet institutions) to have universities
dedicated to certain selected professions or a discplines. Thus
medical, economical, technical (Polytechnics), agricultural, arts
and other learning institutions are separted >from the local
universities.

It appears that thing have changed nowadays, since visiting Kharkiv
(city's modern Ukrainian name) University English language website,
you would locate a medical school amongst the departments

http://www.univer.kharkov.ua/

It is known as: School of Fundamental Medicine and it hax six
departments. You should probably address medical school dean with
you question at: ffm@medic.univer.kharkov.ua

Hope this help

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta


looking for MAN in Argentina #general

shlomo goland
 

I am trying to find descendants of Shneor and Ester MAN who
immigrated >from Israel (then Palestine) in the 1920th to Argentina.
I have in my possesion several leters sent by Shneor to a close
friend of his (my uncle) in Israel. The letters are interesting
and I think they should be in the hand of his family.
please answer privately: sgoland@netvision.net.il

shlomo goland
israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Trying to find Naomi/Nechama Chidekel WEXLER of California #general

Josie Barnett <josieb@...>
 

For the past year and a half I have been trying to find my World War
II *mystery* survivor cousin >from Sharkovschina (Szarkowszczyzna)
who ended up in California and who may be named as above. A member of
the family lost touch with her about 25 years ago. According to my
understanding she is in her early to mid seventies. I have looked up
details in phone lists and can only find a Nancy WEXLER living in
California. Due to privacy laws etc., I can proceed no further. Maybe
someone on this list may know who she is. Please also bear in mind that
I live in Israel and there are limitations to my research resources.

My purpose for locating her is to help me with my family research and
establish a family contact.

For the groups information, I was formerly subscribed to Jewishgen
under a different email address.

Josie BARNETT
Tekoa, Israel
josieb@savion.cc.huiji.ac.il

Researching: CHIDEKEL Sharkovschinna, CHIDEKEL Kherson Gubernia/
Ukraine?, LEVENE/HANOVITZ Janova (on the border)? WOOD/HOLC Plonsk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Poland Online Directory #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Daniel Kazez" wrote in message

from a message I received today, I am reminded that the online
directory for Poland is not well known, nor is it easy to find.
In case the Polish text on that search page confuses you, I have
recently revised a little guide to this search engine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/
Daniel,

I have been using for some time Poland telephone directory by "TP
Ditel" on line located at

1. To locate an individuals

http://ditel.tpsa.pl/asp/szukaj_a.asp

2. To locate businesses

http://ditel.tpsa.pl/asp/szukaj_f.asp

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta