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1890 color photographs of Jerusalem, and the Bonfils family #general

MBernet@...
 

Dear Genners

I have come across some magnificent color photographs of Jerusalem, Sea of
Galilee, and other Holy Land sites, that were taken by Bonfils in around
1890, and hope to use them in my family history.

Can anyone tell me more about the photographer and his work. I believe the
actual photographer was Adrienne Bonfils, whose French father had set up a
family atelier in Beirut, Lebanon. Adrienne took over the family's business
after his father's death, and then his mother took it on herself.

Was the family related to the famous Sefardi family Bonfils / Tov-Elem? What
kind of camera would have been used in 1890 to produce color photographs (a
3-way beam splitter?) and what would have been the 3-color printing process
used.

If anyone else is interested in the phorographs, around 85 are on view at the
Tel Hai Museum in Israel, and they (and tens of thousands of more recent
photographs of Israel), can be purchased online for a very nominal fee
through the Israel Government Press Office
< www.gpo.gov.il >

I'd appreciate hearing >from anyone who's familiar with the early history of
color photography or the Bonfils family.

Many thanks,

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Help with Name on Ships Manifest VM 1607 #general

barrychernick@...
 

My grand mother arrived with her three daughters on the SS Pennsylvania,
March 27, 1904. I can easily read the family name Schulmann (Schulman),
and my grand mothers name, Guta and two of my aunts, Riwke and Siere.
The third, the 5 year olds name I can not figure out. Any help would be
appreciated. See ViewMate VM1607
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
Please respond privately
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1890 color photographs of Jerusalem, and the Bonfils family #general

MBernet@...
 

Dear Genners

I have come across some magnificent color photographs of Jerusalem, Sea of
Galilee, and other Holy Land sites, that were taken by Bonfils in around
1890, and hope to use them in my family history.

Can anyone tell me more about the photographer and his work. I believe the
actual photographer was Adrienne Bonfils, whose French father had set up a
family atelier in Beirut, Lebanon. Adrienne took over the family's business
after his father's death, and then his mother took it on herself.

Was the family related to the famous Sefardi family Bonfils / Tov-Elem? What
kind of camera would have been used in 1890 to produce color photographs (a
3-way beam splitter?) and what would have been the 3-color printing process
used.

If anyone else is interested in the phorographs, around 85 are on view at the
Tel Hai Museum in Israel, and they (and tens of thousands of more recent
photographs of Israel), can be purchased online for a very nominal fee
through the Israel Government Press Office
< www.gpo.gov.il >

I'd appreciate hearing >from anyone who's familiar with the early history of
color photography or the Bonfils family.

Many thanks,

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with Name on Ships Manifest VM 1607 #general

barrychernick@...
 

My grand mother arrived with her three daughters on the SS Pennsylvania,
March 27, 1904. I can easily read the family name Schulmann (Schulman),
and my grand mothers name, Guta and two of my aunts, Riwke and Siere.
The third, the 5 year olds name I can not figure out. Any help would be
appreciated. See ViewMate VM1607
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
Please respond privately
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


Re: Does the Yizkor list include only Holocaust victims? #yizkorbooks

Marian Rubin
 

On July 16, Eva Floersheim asked, "Does the Yizkor list include only
Holocaust
victims?"

If Eva's question refers to the JewishGenYizkor Book Necrology Database,
I have had the same question, and my observations of the Rzeszow Yizkor
book data are similar to those Eva made about the Lubaczow and Lwow
yizkor lists.

I'm coordinating the translation of the Rzeszow Yizkor Book. A section titled
"In Memoriam", which has been translated/transliterated, contains memorial
tributes >from relatives, grouped by family, and is primarily a remembrance of
those who were killed in the Holocaust.However, grandparents who died some
years before are sometimes included. There is no long list. Many
relatives submitted family photos, identifying those in the photo, usually
with a few words. Some tributes are text only, naming the deceased
and relationships of family members, some of whom were still living.
Each is signed by the relatives who submitted the tribute, so it was clear
that
those individuals were still living in 1966-1967 when the book was published.

After our translation went online, little by little, I have learned that
some in
the family photos survived the war or had emigrated before the war. I know
of one case where the tribute is for a person who died in Israel in the
early 1960s.

After the first of JewishGen's compilation was online, I thought about
submitting the Rzeszow list, but the necrologies were described on the
Necrology Database as "lists of Holocaust Martyrs", and that did not apply
to all the names in the Memorial section of our book. So I never submitted
it.
It would be impossible to identify (and exclude) those who did not perish
in the Holocaust.

The names in the Rzeszow Yizkor book's In Memoriam section have been
included in the online index our translator is compiling as he works.

Marian Rubin
San Francisco


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: Does the Yizkor list include only Holocaust victims? #yizkorbooks

Marian Rubin
 

On July 16, Eva Floersheim asked, "Does the Yizkor list include only
Holocaust
victims?"

If Eva's question refers to the JewishGenYizkor Book Necrology Database,
I have had the same question, and my observations of the Rzeszow Yizkor
book data are similar to those Eva made about the Lubaczow and Lwow
yizkor lists.

I'm coordinating the translation of the Rzeszow Yizkor Book. A section titled
"In Memoriam", which has been translated/transliterated, contains memorial
tributes >from relatives, grouped by family, and is primarily a remembrance of
those who were killed in the Holocaust.However, grandparents who died some
years before are sometimes included. There is no long list. Many
relatives submitted family photos, identifying those in the photo, usually
with a few words. Some tributes are text only, naming the deceased
and relationships of family members, some of whom were still living.
Each is signed by the relatives who submitted the tribute, so it was clear
that
those individuals were still living in 1966-1967 when the book was published.

After our translation went online, little by little, I have learned that
some in
the family photos survived the war or had emigrated before the war. I know
of one case where the tribute is for a person who died in Israel in the
early 1960s.

After the first of JewishGen's compilation was online, I thought about
submitting the Rzeszow list, but the necrologies were described on the
Necrology Database as "lists of Holocaust Martyrs", and that did not apply
to all the names in the Memorial section of our book. So I never submitted
it.
It would be impossible to identify (and exclude) those who did not perish
in the Holocaust.

The names in the Rzeszow Yizkor book's In Memoriam section have been
included in the online index our translator is compiling as he works.

Marian Rubin
San Francisco


Re: Documents from Odessa archive #general

Goulnik, Yves {PBC~Basel}
 

We stand behind the original decision for private responses only. However,
if you wish to summarize the responses that you receive and submit them in
your own language(not as quotes, please, as they will be rejected), they
will be considered for posting on the discussion board.

Moderator on Duty

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
I would have thought these documents (and translation
thereof) is of more than individual interest. It also
seems to me that a number of the topics listed are
covered and partly translated in the Levanda Index :
http://www.angelfire.com/ms2/belaroots/levanda.htm

Yv
yves.goulnik@laposte.net
http://goulniky.free.fr/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Documents from Odessa archive #general

Goulnik, Yves {PBC~Basel}
 

We stand behind the original decision for private responses only. However,
if you wish to summarize the responses that you receive and submit them in
your own language(not as quotes, please, as they will be rejected), they
will be considered for posting on the discussion board.

Moderator on Duty

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
I would have thought these documents (and translation
thereof) is of more than individual interest. It also
seems to me that a number of the topics listed are
covered and partly translated in the Levanda Index :
http://www.angelfire.com/ms2/belaroots/levanda.htm

Yv
yves.goulnik@laposte.net
http://goulniky.free.fr/


Gedlink Web Site #general

LS Hofrichter <LSHofrichter@...>
 

Just received an e-mail message dealing with the GedLink project -- which
purports to be a way to link with others around the world searching for the
same surnames. After downloading the free software, one can share GEDCOM
files, inquire of the 90,000 participants, and share family trees.

Has anyone heard of this GedLink project or used the software?

Larry
LSHofrichter@prodigy.net

Researching: HOFRICHTER (Husiatyn); ISAACSON (Radoshkovici);
HAMMER (Husiatyn); FOX (Brailov); SHEEN (New York, London)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


Mitchell Silk -re Kitchinova Rebbe #general

caren b rubio <carenru@...>
 

Dear Mitchell-
I replied to your last communication to me re the Kitchinova Rebbe but
my "Reply" bounced.
If you have another email address, please let me know!
Thanks.
Caren Rubio
carenru@juno.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


Great childrens' book! #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Hello genners with children,

I recently checked out a book at my public library, for my 11-year-old
daughter, called, "Journey to Ellis Island" by Carol Bierman, published by
Hyperion Books for Children. It is the true story of Ms. Bierman's
grandfather's journey to America, when he was a small boy. It describes the
family's life in Russia, and the reasons they came to America. I think the
age group for this book would be about 7-12. It is very well written. My
daughter and I both read it, and then, we looked the family up in the EIDB,
and there they were (except in the book, the mother's name is Rachel, and in
the EIDB, it is Ruchla)!! That was very exciting for my daughter. The book
also has photos of the family and old photos and postcards of Ellis Island.

Great book, great teaching tool!

Denise Azbill
SEARCHING: WEIDENFELD, ZWIRNBAUM, BLEIMAN, MESSING, KESSLER, FALCK/FALK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gedlink Web Site #general

LS Hofrichter <LSHofrichter@...>
 

Just received an e-mail message dealing with the GedLink project -- which
purports to be a way to link with others around the world searching for the
same surnames. After downloading the free software, one can share GEDCOM
files, inquire of the 90,000 participants, and share family trees.

Has anyone heard of this GedLink project or used the software?

Larry
LSHofrichter@prodigy.net

Researching: HOFRICHTER (Husiatyn); ISAACSON (Radoshkovici);
HAMMER (Husiatyn); FOX (Brailov); SHEEN (New York, London)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mitchell Silk -re Kitchinova Rebbe #general

caren b rubio <carenru@...>
 

Dear Mitchell-
I replied to your last communication to me re the Kitchinova Rebbe but
my "Reply" bounced.
If you have another email address, please let me know!
Thanks.
Caren Rubio
carenru@juno.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Great childrens' book! #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Hello genners with children,

I recently checked out a book at my public library, for my 11-year-old
daughter, called, "Journey to Ellis Island" by Carol Bierman, published by
Hyperion Books for Children. It is the true story of Ms. Bierman's
grandfather's journey to America, when he was a small boy. It describes the
family's life in Russia, and the reasons they came to America. I think the
age group for this book would be about 7-12. It is very well written. My
daughter and I both read it, and then, we looked the family up in the EIDB,
and there they were (except in the book, the mother's name is Rachel, and in
the EIDB, it is Ruchla)!! That was very exciting for my daughter. The book
also has photos of the family and old photos and postcards of Ellis Island.

Great book, great teaching tool!

Denise Azbill
SEARCHING: WEIDENFELD, ZWIRNBAUM, BLEIMAN, MESSING, KESSLER, FALCK/FALK


Success on Census - Reversing Names #lithuania

Rlberliner@...
 

I have written about diligently searching for my great uncle, ABRAHAM JACOBS, and who we think to be his son, HYMAN JACOBS.

I hope the following will help all genners. While searching on the census
through ancestry.com, we found HYMAN JACOBS. However, the catch is that we
put him in as JACOB HYMAN, and up he came with all of the children we know to be the right ones. There are some discrepancies in the birthdates with what we had and what they list. But the point is, try reversing names, even if you don't have two first names like Hyman and Jacob. Since then I have seen a Mollie, Goldberg on the census. See what I mean.

Good luck to all of us!
Rachelle Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@aol.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Success on Census - Reversing Names #lithuania

Rlberliner@...
 

I have written about diligently searching for my great uncle, ABRAHAM JACOBS, and who we think to be his son, HYMAN JACOBS.

I hope the following will help all genners. While searching on the census
through ancestry.com, we found HYMAN JACOBS. However, the catch is that we
put him in as JACOB HYMAN, and up he came with all of the children we know to be the right ones. There are some discrepancies in the birthdates with what we had and what they list. But the point is, try reversing names, even if you don't have two first names like Hyman and Jacob. Since then I have seen a Mollie, Goldberg on the census. See what I mean.

Good luck to all of us!
Rachelle Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@aol.com


Please type surnames in all capital letters #lithuania

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

I have noticed a number of requests for help with rather complicated
family trees listed with the surnames in regular type. It would be
infinitely easier to scan and see if I have any matches if the surnames
were typed in all CAPS, as in standard genealogical practice. Like
many others, I only scan such messages, I don't take the time to read
them in detail until I see a name which catches my eye.

Thanks in advance.

Barbara Sloan
Connecticut

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We heartily second Barbara's request. Please type surnames in all caps, but do not use all caps for towns or first names.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Please type surnames in all capital letters #lithuania

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

I have noticed a number of requests for help with rather complicated
family trees listed with the surnames in regular type. It would be
infinitely easier to scan and see if I have any matches if the surnames
were typed in all CAPS, as in standard genealogical practice. Like
many others, I only scan such messages, I don't take the time to read
them in detail until I see a name which catches my eye.

Thanks in advance.

Barbara Sloan
Connecticut

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We heartily second Barbara's request. Please type surnames in all caps, but do not use all caps for towns or first names.


Zgierz #lodz #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I visited Lodz and Zgierz in May 2002. I had a good guide, and had very
good success in getting photocopies of documents >from the USC in both towns.

But we did less well in getting archival materials related to Zgierz. We
visited the two archives in Lodz (where, as usual, I found having a
Polish-speaking guide essential!). But we could find nothing of value for
Zgierz, such as voter lists, census lists, etc.

I have learned now that "registration books of permanent population"
("ksiegi ludnosci stalej") are at the branch archives in Pabianice. Does
anyone know if Pabianice happens to be the place to find most of the
materials for the town of Zgierz?

Dan
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music, Wittenberg University
Ward Street, Springfield, Ohio 45501-0720 USA
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/dk/jmu.html
My families in Lodz/Zgierz: TALMAN, OFMAN, ZYNGERMAN, SURDUT


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Zgierz #lodz #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I visited Lodz and Zgierz in May 2002. I had a good guide, and had very
good success in getting photocopies of documents >from the USC in both towns.

But we did less well in getting archival materials related to Zgierz. We
visited the two archives in Lodz (where, as usual, I found having a
Polish-speaking guide essential!). But we could find nothing of value for
Zgierz, such as voter lists, census lists, etc.

I have learned now that "registration books of permanent population"
("ksiegi ludnosci stalej") are at the branch archives in Pabianice. Does
anyone know if Pabianice happens to be the place to find most of the
materials for the town of Zgierz?

Dan
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music, Wittenberg University
Ward Street, Springfield, Ohio 45501-0720 USA
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/dk/jmu.html
My families in Lodz/Zgierz: TALMAN, OFMAN, ZYNGERMAN, SURDUT