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Re: Nograd - Ludany, birth records KLEIN in 1880s #hungary

JPmiaou@...
 

Dvorzsák's gazetteer says Jewish residents of both Kis- and Nagy-Ludány were recorded in Szécsény. FamilySearch has browsable images of some of that congregation's records between 1850 and 1885 (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/261203).

Julia
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Re: Translation of documents from German to English #translation

fredelfruhman
 

With a treasure trove like that, I suggest that he contact the Leo Baeck Institute in New York (lbi.org).  Not only is his collection of great historical value, but they have lists of translators who might be able to help.
--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Re: Schiff Burial Society #general #galicia

Susan&David
 

On 7/26/2020 11:18 AM, carl.kaplan via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I am trying to determine where in Galicia my great-grandfather, Simon Hoffert, came from. He is buried in Mt. Zion Cemetery in New York, in the Hyman Schiff Sick & Benevolent Society Inc. area. Anyone know where I can find the history of this society, specifically whether is for people from a specific town in Europe? Thanks.

Carl Kaplan
Winchester, MA


Re: Ship Manifests, immigration #general

Susan&David
 

Ancestry indexes the Detained Alien Lists and the Board of Special Inquiry Lists.  Ancestry includes images of these lists and of the manifest itself.. Each list has  a Group and Number column. Each manifest page has a Group identification, added at the destination port.  You can find it in the upper right or in the upper left of the manifest page.  The Number is the line on which the immigrant appears.  You can sort through the manifest to find the page with the matching Group.  
Sometimes the the name on the lists is more legible to the indexers than is the name on the manifest, making it harder to match them both up.

David Rosen
Boston, MA   



On 7/26/2020 10:28 AM, Howard Morris via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
If a name in the Manifest is on the Record of Detained Aliens or Held for Special Inquiry, wouldn’t that name also be in the body of the complete Manifest List? Ancestry and the other search sites point me to a name on Record of Detained Aliens or Special Inquiry lust, but do not find the name in the complete Manifest. Why? Is there an explanation for this?


Records from 1807-1811 #romania #bessarabia #ukraine

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello everybody,  Shavua Tov to you all.

You probably tired to hear from me about new discoveries.  But I cannot be silent and I  should share this new finding with all of you.

This time we got an oldest set of records for Bessarabian Jews...  these are records from 1808-1811.
Most records are from Khotin uezd, at that time Russian word "uezd" was not in use yet - the region was not yet under official Russian rule.  It was Moldova principality with ts suzerain, the sultan of the Ottoman Empire. It was Khotin tsinut.  That is an incredible interesting records with a lot of documents written with the records... 
But, here are few problems: 
  1) Jews at that time did not have surnames, actually Jews in Turkey received surnames late 19 century, beginning of 20th century.
 
  2)  It is not an easy read.   The records are in Russian,  but sometimes notes written in different languages, possible in Old Slavonic script.  I have enclosed an image (#856) with statistics on population in Khotin in 1808... On the right side at the bottom it is written in Russian, and it is stated that there were 1349 Jews in town from total of 2797 people.   The others were 
peasants and others (Russian orthodox) - 1309, and also 99 Armenians.  Imagine we have all records on these 1349 Jews!

Look above from the statistic table.  On the right site, it is still Russian, more or less regular with several letters not part of alphabet anymore, and some words nobody uses,  but on the left side script, which I cannot read at all.
If there is a specialist in Slavic old languages, please come over, and tell us what that language is...  I think it is old Slavonic, but maybe I am wrong.
Here is another page #860, and it seems to me more Greek script.

By the way there are 18 pages with families of Jews, men and women with first names of Jews, and father's name for the head of household in the family  (man).  For many there is also professions and in some cases I see a village near Khotin they live...  

In any case the #3) is to get someone to work on these records...  you got the idea.

Same microfilm might have records from Kiliya. and Bendery,  need to look more.

You might ask, why the records are written in Russian, even the region was not yet under Russian rule?

The answer to this is that Russia occupied a lot of lands in 18 century, like part of Moldova Principality, Walachia Principality (which is now in Romania), and also smaller regions on Balkans, like Serbia, etc.  All the documents are signed by Military generals of Russian Empire.  Only in 1812 with Bucharest agreement Russians left Balkans, Walacha, part of Moldova, and only Bessarabia remained under their rule,

I know from historical papers, that there is a census done for Jews in 1770-80s in Moldova Principality (included all Bessarabia)  by Russian military, occupying that land at that time.

I am looking forward to hear from you...  hope you are existed as I am.

Any volunteers?  specialist in old Slavonic languages?

All the best,
Yefim Kogan


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

mas850@...
 

A cutter worked in the garment industry, and was the one who cut the fabric from patterns.  It was a highly skilled position because the cutter had to be faithful to the pattern while minimizing the amount of fabric wasted.  I had several ancestors who were cutters, and they were noticeably better off financially than other relatives of the same era in the garment industry.


Re: Ship Manifests, immigration #general

Diane Jacobs
 

When you find a special inquiry or detained manifest page, go to it and you will see after the person's name a group and line
number. The group is the ship's manifest page number and the line is the number to the left of the passenger's names. Do you locate the actual page and find the person


Diane Jacobs 


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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Ship Manifests, immigration #general

If a name in the Manifest is on the Record of Detained Aliens or Held for Special Inquiry, wouldn’t that name also be in the body of the complete Manifest List? Ancestry and the other search sites point me to a name on Record of Detained Aliens or Special Inquiry lust, but do not find the name in the complete Manifest. Why? Is there an explanation for this?
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Schiff Burial Society #general #galicia

Carl Kaplan
 

I am trying to determine where in Galicia my great-grandfather, Simon Hoffert, came from. He is buried in Mt. Zion Cemetery in New York, in the Hyman Schiff Sick & Benevolent Society Inc. area. Anyone know where I can find the history of this society, specifically whether is for people from a specific town in Europe? Thanks.

Carl Kaplan
Winchester, MA


Re: How to use the Paris Census record -- a guideline #guidelines #france

LarryBassist@...
 

Forgive my ignorance, have these census records been indexed? i.e. if I only know a name and not an address is it possible to find them?
Thanks,
Larry Bassist
Springville, Utah, USA


Definition of a family name#names

Susan Megerman
 

My maternal grandfather's family name was Bariot. He emigrated from Minsk. I can find very little information about the name Bariot. Does anyone have any information about the name or is related to a Bariot?

Thanks. Susan


Landsmann article #general

Salinger Ralph
 

I am searching for a copy of this article from Landsman can anyone help me.

Many many thanks

Ralph Salinger

Kfar Ruppin

Israel

 

Landsmann

Vol. 2 - No. 1 (1991)

  • Vishtinetz (Wisztyniec / Westitten): Comprehensive history of this Jewish community, drawn from a wide range of foreign language sources. Documents most of the Jewish families there in the 19th century, including some that originated, or later resided in, other Suwalki gubernia towns; and early emigration to the U.S and elsewhere. Appendix: Long list of Jewish taxpayers in Vishtinetz (circa 1826-1831), from Warsaw Archives.

 


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Re: Lithuania - Soloveitchik Brothers with Same Given Name #lithuania

Jeremy Lichtman
 

I've seen this where a child dies, and then later on another child is named after him/her. That doesn't look like the case here.

There can be errors in transcription of those revision lists (the handwriting is sometimes very hard to read), and there can also be errors in the original lists.

It's possible that Movsha and Moshe are one and the same person.


Re: Birth records in New York, #usa

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Give us more to work with:
     approx DOBs,    
     children's names,   
     mother's Hebrew name, if known.  
     occupation

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


Re: Searching Stein from Nowy Szacz, former Galicia (Poland) around 1805 #poland

Stephen Silberman
 

My Great Grandfather came from Nowy Szacz in the 1880s.   At the time it was Neu Sandez, Austria Hungary.   Don't know if that will help you but thought I would mention it since records from that era might be under Austria Hungary.


BLUMSTEIN from Goworowo, Poland #poland #yizkorbooks

Stanley Diamond
 

In the process of fully extracting the random surviving 19th century records of Ostrolęka, the
JRI-Poland volunteer discovered that they include the pre-1917 vital records of Goworowo. 
A long-time mystery solved!
 
In addition, JRI-Poland received permission to inspect the surviving 20th century records for
various years between 1917 and 1936 in the Civil Records Office in the Goworowo town hall.
We used the opportunity to extract all the marriage and death records that are no longer
subject to Polish laws protecting personal data. While the births from 1920 to 1937 remain
private, we know which family names that appear in the births.
 
Researchers with an interest in Goworowo can obtain additional information by writing to:
 
Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
  
6a.
 

BLUMSTEIN from Goworowo, Poland #poland #yizkorbooks
From: fkolbrener@...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 09:09:03 EDT

Looking for any information on the family of Velvel BLUMSTEIN and wife Fiege, formerly of Goworowo, Poland. 
 
Per the Yizkor book, the town was burned to include all the historical and vital records in 1939 and several people with the name BLUMSTEIN were lost in the Holocaust.  Pages of testimony on Yad Vashem are not posted for most of them and only source for the names is the necrology list in the Goworowo Yizkor book.  One of their children, Avram emigrated to the US via Canada in 1921, but did not share any family details with his children or grandchildren.  Velvel BLUMSTEIN was a watchmaker and jeweler. 

Fred Kolbrener

KOLBRENER / BOHRER/ Lezajsk, Poland
SCHWARTZ/  Glogow Malopolski, Poland
SINDEBAND / LIVSHITZ / BERLIN / YAVELOV /  Minsk & St. Petersburg
BLUMSTEIN / Goworowo, Poland


Ship Manifests, immigration #general

Howard Morris
 

If a name in the Manifest is on the Record of Detained Aliens or Held for Special Inquiry, wouldn’t that name also be in the body of the complete Manifest List? Ancestry and the other search sites point me to a name on Record of Detained Aliens or Special Inquiry lust, but do not find the name in the complete Manifest. Why? Is there an explanation for this?


Gershon Kleinman from Warsaw #poland

Jerry2000K@...
 

Does anyone know the name Gershon Kleinman that left Warsaw in 1921

Thank you
Jerry
Jerry2000K@... 


Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Aaron Slotnik
 

A distinctive feature of the MyHeritage index to Ellis Island passenger manifests is that they indexed the destination column. I've found some relatives that way that I would have never found otherwise.

Regards,

Aaron Slotnik

Chicago, IL


Weinstock from Hungary #general #hungary #slovakia

Moishe Miller
 

Dear Group,
My g-g-gf was Jonasz (Yona) Weinstock, (born in VelkyHores, to Isak Weinstock and Rosalie Moskowitz, about 1832). This detail comaes from the 1869 Hungarian Census, where he is living in the town of Tokaj (part of Zemplen county) with his wife (Rachel Benjamin) and 5 children. My g-gf was Moritz Weinstock (1869-1949).

I am searching for Jonasz's date and place of death, The only clue I have is that the marriage record of Jonasz's son, Fulop, married 4 Dec 1892 in the town of Nagyvarad, lists that both the bride and groom's parents were alive. So I do know he likely passed after 1892. 

If anyone has suggestions, I would appreciate it.

Thank you, 
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY 
JGFF# 3391
moishe.miller@...


Birth records in New York, #usa

Marcia Segal
 

Background:
One set of great-grandparents (Samuel and Clara Siegel) came from Romania with two young daughters, arriving in New York around May-June 1888. I'm assuming May-June because I have a copy of the manifest that puts them in Liverpool on May 7. Nothing for their arrival in the US. The delayed birth filing record for a sibling who was born later indicated that a child was born in New York. Nothing more specific than that, and the name Razel. There is no record for the child in the 1895 New Jersey census. The family was established in New Jersey by 1892.


Problem: I know the surname can be spelled any number of ways but there are so many variables on how to approach this that I'm not sure where to start. Nobody is around from that generation who remembers any of this. I didn't even know the child existed until a few years ago. I suspect this is going to be hands on research through paper or microfilm. Suggestions for approaches are very much welcome. This is one of those "enduring mysteries" I want to solve, because I will be the last person in my family to do the work--you know how this goes.

Sincerely,
Em