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Looking for a family branch #general

adriana_brawn@...
 

For a long time, since 25 years ago, I am looking for
a branch of my family in the USA.
The last name I have is Barbara KRAUSS, dougther of
Robert KRAUSS and Ruth.
And she was the gdougther of Saly FRANKEL KRAUSS,
doughter of Max FRANKEL and Sarah.
Max and Sarah FRANKEL were my ggrandparents, and the
gparents of both, my mother and my father who are
cousins in first grade, because my both grandfathers
were brothers and brothers of Saly FRANKEL.
The story is very interesting but long and complicated
Will be possible to find Barbara KRAUSS to complete
my family history?
All this family people, lived in New York City, NY.
Max FRANKEL was a jeweler. And Robert KRAUSS is/was a
lawyer. He has/had a brother Herbert KRAUSS.

With gratitude. Sincerily yours

Adriana Brawn (Frankel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for a family branch #general

adriana_brawn@...
 

For a long time, since 25 years ago, I am looking for
a branch of my family in the USA.
The last name I have is Barbara KRAUSS, dougther of
Robert KRAUSS and Ruth.
And she was the gdougther of Saly FRANKEL KRAUSS,
doughter of Max FRANKEL and Sarah.
Max and Sarah FRANKEL were my ggrandparents, and the
gparents of both, my mother and my father who are
cousins in first grade, because my both grandfathers
were brothers and brothers of Saly FRANKEL.
The story is very interesting but long and complicated
Will be possible to find Barbara KRAUSS to complete
my family history?
All this family people, lived in New York City, NY.
Max FRANKEL was a jeweler. And Robert KRAUSS is/was a
lawyer. He has/had a brother Herbert KRAUSS.

With gratitude. Sincerily yours

Adriana Brawn (Frankel)


The contents of GenAmi number 19 #general

michelinegutmann <michelinegutmann@...>
 

The titles:

-Next meetings :
On March, 26th: Eastern countries, sources,
books and web sites, individuals problems.
On May 16th, for the visit of our friend Werner FRANK, a long meeting
in order to speak of families who had members in both sides of the Rhein.

-The New Web site of GenAmi, quite ready (same address).

-Annual meeting 2002 - a great success.

-A story of the Jews of Belfort, part 1 by Laurence TOUROT
Professor in History at Belfort.

-Jewish genealogy in Belfort, some families studdied
by Micheline Gutmann.

-List of circumcisions of the mohel Lazare HESS of Hasttatt,
Upper-Rhine (Part 2) - A chance to have this precious document
translated >from Hebrew by a specialist, Avraham MALTHETE

-The naturalizations at the CARAN, good news : since 3 years ago,
at the archives nationales in Paris, it was impossible to do photocopies
we had to order microfilms, a very expensive solution !
Thanks to the President of the Federation Francaise de Genealogie,
I could meet the Director of the National Archives who promised me
to permit to let do again photocopies and will built a place in order
for searchers to do their own numerical photos.
Tha CARAN is now closed for renovation but will open probably again in July.
from Micheline GUTMANN.
-The story of Emile WEIL >from New Orleans, by Betty Weill
A French soldier during the Mexican war who remained in Louisiana.

- A genealogical journey >from London to Amsterdam,
Hambourg, Metz, Sierentz and Prague...
Most probably, our COHEN family in London came
from Amsterdam and before >from Hamburg,
related to Gluckel HAMELN. Help is welcome.
By Micheline Gutmann
- Chart with some descendants of rabbi Mordecai COHEN-HANAU
By Micheline Gutmann

- A story of the Van HALLE family, >from an unknown searcher
of the 19th century, translated by Renate HERZOG
comments by Micheline GUTMANN.


- Acquisitions : a lot of documents, especially
those >from the JGS of Netherlands.

- Some reviews of genealogy
- Short practical news
- Letters >from readers and correspondants
- Questions and answers

Micheline Gutmann, GenAmi, Paris, France
michelinegutmann@...
http://asso.genami.free.fr


more on DNA, yea or nay #general

carol skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

First, I want to express my thanks for the bulk of messages making well
considered and reasonable suggestions as to how this circumstance could
have come about. Rather than respond individually, I think it would be
more beneficial to all who responded if I compiled the suggestions and
responded in that fashion. It will take a day or two, and since the
messages are pouring in....some not being posted to the lists since they
were not sent there, some being refused by moderators since JewishGen does
not permit flaming, I will need some time to gather and organize all the
suggestions.

Keep thinking folks, your thoughts and suggestions are always welcome.

Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods, CA


Correct spelling of KYJAWSKI #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

My father spelled his father's surname, KYJAWSKI. Grandfather left Poland
for England in the mid 1890's when he was 15-17. He settled in Birmingham
where he eventually married my grandmother Annie ISAACS. G-f's original
given names were Yehoshua Wolf. In England he anglicized his name to Simon
WOOLF (dropping the presumed patronymic). For the last 3-4 years (since
I've been researching the family history) I've never encountered anyone
with the same last name (KYJAWSKI). I have, however, encountered several
listings (online and in the Mormon LDS Records) for KUJAWSKI/KUIJAWSKI (or
variants thereof).

Rabbi Schachter (of Yad Vashed in Israel) once informed me there is no "y"
in the Polish alphabet.

I'm wondering why my father (over shalom) spelled grandfather's surname
with a "y." Could it be because the "i" (in Polish) closely resembles a
"y" in the English alphabet? If anyone can resolve this mystery for me,
I'd appreciate hearing >from them.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco
rnwoolf@...

Researching:
KYJAWSKI (or variants): Lodz, Poland
DROZDIASZ (or variants): Karczew, Poland
SAFIRSTEIN (SUPERSTAYN or variants): Karczew, Poland
ISAACS (ancestors or descendants of Solomon & Sarah): Poland, any town
SHORN (ancestors or descendants of Morris/London, England), Poland,any town


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The contents of GenAmi number 19 #general

michelinegutmann <michelinegutmann@...>
 

The titles:

-Next meetings :
On March, 26th: Eastern countries, sources,
books and web sites, individuals problems.
On May 16th, for the visit of our friend Werner FRANK, a long meeting
in order to speak of families who had members in both sides of the Rhein.

-The New Web site of GenAmi, quite ready (same address).

-Annual meeting 2002 - a great success.

-A story of the Jews of Belfort, part 1 by Laurence TOUROT
Professor in History at Belfort.

-Jewish genealogy in Belfort, some families studdied
by Micheline Gutmann.

-List of circumcisions of the mohel Lazare HESS of Hasttatt,
Upper-Rhine (Part 2) - A chance to have this precious document
translated >from Hebrew by a specialist, Avraham MALTHETE

-The naturalizations at the CARAN, good news : since 3 years ago,
at the archives nationales in Paris, it was impossible to do photocopies
we had to order microfilms, a very expensive solution !
Thanks to the President of the Federation Francaise de Genealogie,
I could meet the Director of the National Archives who promised me
to permit to let do again photocopies and will built a place in order
for searchers to do their own numerical photos.
Tha CARAN is now closed for renovation but will open probably again in July.
from Micheline GUTMANN.
-The story of Emile WEIL >from New Orleans, by Betty Weill
A French soldier during the Mexican war who remained in Louisiana.

- A genealogical journey >from London to Amsterdam,
Hambourg, Metz, Sierentz and Prague...
Most probably, our COHEN family in London came
from Amsterdam and before >from Hamburg,
related to Gluckel HAMELN. Help is welcome.
By Micheline Gutmann
- Chart with some descendants of rabbi Mordecai COHEN-HANAU
By Micheline Gutmann

- A story of the Van HALLE family, >from an unknown searcher
of the 19th century, translated by Renate HERZOG
comments by Micheline GUTMANN.


- Acquisitions : a lot of documents, especially
those >from the JGS of Netherlands.

- Some reviews of genealogy
- Short practical news
- Letters >from readers and correspondants
- Questions and answers

Micheline Gutmann, GenAmi, Paris, France
michelinegutmann@...
http://asso.genami.free.fr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen more on DNA, yea or nay #general

carol skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

First, I want to express my thanks for the bulk of messages making well
considered and reasonable suggestions as to how this circumstance could
have come about. Rather than respond individually, I think it would be
more beneficial to all who responded if I compiled the suggestions and
responded in that fashion. It will take a day or two, and since the
messages are pouring in....some not being posted to the lists since they
were not sent there, some being refused by moderators since JewishGen does
not permit flaming, I will need some time to gather and organize all the
suggestions.

Keep thinking folks, your thoughts and suggestions are always welcome.

Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Correct spelling of KYJAWSKI #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

My father spelled his father's surname, KYJAWSKI. Grandfather left Poland
for England in the mid 1890's when he was 15-17. He settled in Birmingham
where he eventually married my grandmother Annie ISAACS. G-f's original
given names were Yehoshua Wolf. In England he anglicized his name to Simon
WOOLF (dropping the presumed patronymic). For the last 3-4 years (since
I've been researching the family history) I've never encountered anyone
with the same last name (KYJAWSKI). I have, however, encountered several
listings (online and in the Mormon LDS Records) for KUJAWSKI/KUIJAWSKI (or
variants thereof).

Rabbi Schachter (of Yad Vashed in Israel) once informed me there is no "y"
in the Polish alphabet.

I'm wondering why my father (over shalom) spelled grandfather's surname
with a "y." Could it be because the "i" (in Polish) closely resembles a
"y" in the English alphabet? If anyone can resolve this mystery for me,
I'd appreciate hearing >from them.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco
rnwoolf@...

Researching:
KYJAWSKI (or variants): Lodz, Poland
DROZDIASZ (or variants): Karczew, Poland
SAFIRSTEIN (SUPERSTAYN or variants): Karczew, Poland
ISAACS (ancestors or descendants of Solomon & Sarah): Poland, any town
SHORN (ancestors or descendants of Morris/London, England), Poland,any town


Re: Chasam Sofer #hungary

Perets Mett <p.mett@...>
 

On 2002-02-27, Moshe Dovid Friedman <moshetanach@...> wrote

Does Anyone know if any Chasidic Rebbes (Munkatch, Lubavitch,
Vizhnitz Belz etc.) or other gedolim such as the Vilna Gaon or the
Maharal are related to the Chasam SOFER (R' Moshe SOFER) or to R'
Akiva EIGER? If so, how?
Of course, the Lubliner Rebbes (of the EIGER family) are all descended from
R' Leybl EIGER, grandson of Rabbi Akiva EIGER. They are also related to the
Chasam SOFER (who was the son-in-law of R' Akiva EIGER).

Perets Mett
London


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Chasam Sofer #rabbinic

Perets Mett <p.mett@...>
 

On 2002-02-27, Moshe Dovid Friedman <moshetanach@...> wrote

Does Anyone know if any Chasidic Rebbes (Munkatch, Lubavitch,
Vizhnitz Belz etc.) or other gedolim such as the Vilna Gaon or the
Maharal are related to the Chasam SOFER (R' Moshe SOFER) or to R'
Akiva EIGER? If so, how?
Of course, the Lubliner Rebbes (of the EIGER family) are all descended from
R' Leybl EIGER, grandson of Rabbi Akiva EIGER. They are also related to the
Chasam SOFER (who was the son-in-law of R' Akiva EIGER).

Perets Mett
London


Town called Maris? #hungary

Cory Streisinger <corys@...>
 

Thanks to Ruben Weiser's kind efforts, I have located several of my
STREISINGER ancestors on the 1848 census for Balassagyarmat in Nograd
County. Both Samuel Streisinger (born about 1792) and Salomon Streisinger
(born about 1812) are listed with the birthplace of "Maris." I've checked
the ShtetlSeeker, various online gazetteers, and Google, and haven't been
able to locate any town which seems to match this. Does anyone have any
suggestions as to where "Maris" might be?

Thanks very much for any help you can give me.

Cory Streisinger
Portland, Oregon
corys@...


Rebbe DUBOV #general

HenandDen@...
 

I was Barmitzvah some 57 years ago at the Adass Yisroel
in Manchester England, it is a Lubavitch Shool.
The Rav was Rebbe Dubov zl. I am looking for the article that was written in English
about this remarkable man, it told the story of how he came to be in Manchester from
Dvinsk in Latvia.
Any help please and does anybody out there remember him
Many thanks
Henry Margolis
henandden@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately


Need Obit look-up for 1/17/1894 Brooklyn #general

Lorraine & Ike Wright-Uhlving <blissful@...>
 

I am looking for copy of an obit for an Amelia MARX died 1/17/1894 in
Brooklyn. Hoping obit will say who her survivors are. Can anyone assist me?
L.L.Wright
New Westminster, B.C. Canada
mailto:blissful@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately


Re: how to locate hard to find books #general

ALROMASO@...
 

This may answer a query on ravsig. Go to the local branch of your public
library and ask them to check world cat on the internet. It is a worldwide
catalog listing the holdings of many libraries, archives, universities, etc.
Then it may be possible to put in a request through the interlibrary loan
department of your library for the book you seek.
Sincerely, Alice Marcus Solovy, Skokie, IL.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Town called Maris? #hungary

Cory Streisinger <corys@...>
 

Thanks to Ruben Weiser's kind efforts, I have located several of my
STREISINGER ancestors on the 1848 census for Balassagyarmat in Nograd
County. Both Samuel Streisinger (born about 1792) and Salomon Streisinger
(born about 1812) are listed with the birthplace of "Maris." I've checked
the ShtetlSeeker, various online gazetteers, and Google, and haven't been
able to locate any town which seems to match this. Does anyone have any
suggestions as to where "Maris" might be?

Thanks very much for any help you can give me.

Cory Streisinger
Portland, Oregon
corys@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rebbe DUBOV #general

HenandDen@...
 

I was Barmitzvah some 57 years ago at the Adass Yisroel
in Manchester England, it is a Lubavitch Shool.
The Rav was Rebbe Dubov zl. I am looking for the article that was written in English
about this remarkable man, it told the story of how he came to be in Manchester from
Dvinsk in Latvia.
Any help please and does anybody out there remember him
Many thanks
Henry Margolis
henandden@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Obit look-up for 1/17/1894 Brooklyn #general

Lorraine & Ike Wright-Uhlving <blissful@...>
 

I am looking for copy of an obit for an Amelia MARX died 1/17/1894 in
Brooklyn. Hoping obit will say who her survivors are. Can anyone assist me?
L.L.Wright
New Westminster, B.C. Canada
mailto:blissful@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: how to locate hard to find books #general

ALROMASO@...
 

This may answer a query on ravsig. Go to the local branch of your public
library and ask them to check world cat on the internet. It is a worldwide
catalog listing the holdings of many libraries, archives, universities, etc.
Then it may be possible to put in a request through the interlibrary loan
department of your library for the book you seek.
Sincerely, Alice Marcus Solovy, Skokie, IL.


Varanno 1869 #hungary

Alex Miller <AMiller@...>
 

Here is a brief profile of Varanno, a town on the northern border of =
Hungary, >from the 1869 population census. (Data collected by Wayne =
Roth).

There were 462 Jewish individuals counted(~20 % of the total), 105 =
two-head families and 20 widows. Of the 249 adults 191 were Zemplen =
natives, of which 129 >from Varanno. Another 22 were natives of Hungary, =
of which 20--one county away >from Zemplen. 13 were born in Galicia and 1 =
in Moravia.

Of the 105 families, in 48 at least one spouse was born in Varanno in =
another 25 both, i.e. 73 families had roots in the city. All this =
indicates a very low geographic mobility, even in the second half of the =
19th century.

Varanno appears to be an enterprising town, with a mixed Jewish =
influences in trades and farming. Here is a summary of occupations:

Specialized trades-8(2Coopers, 2Bookbinders, 2Tinsmiths, 1Upholsterer, =
1Clockmaker, 1Tobacco processor)
General trades-18(5Shoemakers, 13Tailors)
Services-13(1Butcher, 2Bakers, 9Innkeepers, 1Mikve worker)
Trade-27(25Merchants, 2Peddlers)
Farming-30(3Farmers, 26Laborers,1Expediter/ Safar)
Physcians-3
Rabbi-1
Speculators-2
Beggar-1
Taxman-1


Best Regards,

Alex Miller
Reading, PA

Moderator VK: See websites at <http://www.unipo.sk/SARIS/vranova.htm> and <http://www.vranov.sk/english/history/index.htm> for more historical info about Vranov.


Re: Eger Cemetery Database - Address (URL) Update #hungary

Jerry Zeisler <jerryz@...>
 

It has come to my attention that some users cannot access the web site as I
have it listed. The issue is how different web browsers handles URLs. Here
are several other ways to access the site.

www.home.earthlink.net/~jerryz

www.zeislerfamily.com

Select "Special" >from the menu. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Jerry Zeisler
jzeisler@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Zeisler [mailto:jerryz@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:18 PM
To: Hungarian SIG
Subject: Eger Cemetery Database

To All H-Siggers,
I just wanted to let you know that I have posted on my family website, a
partial listing of those interred in the Jewish cemetery in Eger, Hungary.
While I was visiting there last year, I was able to photograph every page of
the interment books that date >from 1869.