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Re: Strange first name Dreizy #general

s_warshall@...
 

On 16 Mar 2002 10:50:06 -0800, idayosef@barak-online.net (Ida & Joseph
Schwarcz) wrote:


I had a friend in Rehovot whose English name was Daisy. She told me that
her Yiddish name was Dreyzl. I remember looking it up in Gorr's book and
finding its meaning, but I do not have access the book at present.
However, there is such a name.
According to Gorr, Dreiza and Dreizel are forms of the Slavic name
Drozha

Stephen Warshall
Gloucester, MA


Re: Discrepancies #general

Joan Silverman <jbsilverman@...>
 

Hi all,

I believe I have e-mailed individually all those with stories and
suggestions, but wanted to say thank you to anyone I might have missed and
to the group. You are all so helpful, especially for one who really
doesn't have time to do this work, but really wants to,and to find people
reaseaching the same name is pure joy!.

Thanks again

Joan Silverman
jbsilverman@attbi.com


Help locate DRUCKER, recently of Brooklyn and LANGBERG, recently in #general

Donna Rice
 

In NY (Podhajcer Society) cemetery records for Podhajce, Poland
(Podhajce, Galicia, now Podgaytsy, Ukraine) I have found the following:

Morris LANGBERG d. 1940
Rose LANGBERG d. 1951
The person responsible for payment for the upkeep of these to graves was
listed as Jack LANGBERG of Hallandale, Florida. The cemetery office has
been unable to locate Jack LANGBERG in over a year. I hope someone can
help me find him or his family.

Barnett FISCHER (no date for death given)
The person listed on this burial site is Simon DRUCKER of Brooklyn. I
have been unable to locate Mr. DRUCKER. Is anyone familiar with the
DRUCKER family of Brooklyn or the NY area?

In the same Podhajce area, there is a burial listed for a Meyer
LANGBERG, age 40, d. 2/12/60
There is not anyone listed for this burial.

Thanks in advance for any help. Please reply privately.
Donna G. Rice
Bonita Springs Florida
<hurycane@earthlink.net>

Researching: FISCHER, LANGBERG, HECHT, MILCH and BALTUCH >from Podgaytsy
and Buchach Ukraine. GOLSCHMIDT,GOLDSMITH, FEL, FELL, BORTEL, WORTEL,

from Krustpils, Latvia


Immigrants to Cuba #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Hello:

Does anyone one know whether the Cuban government before Castro kept
records of immigrants? My g-g-grandmother, Selki BRAUMEISTER was denied
access to the US when she tried to immigrate with her son after escaping
from a gulag in Siberia. And so her son arranged for her to immigrate to
Cuba. Later, she was on a boat to Tampa, FL. Family lore says that she
was an illegal alien. Also, does an illegal alien mean that there
immigration was not documented, or that they were just not a citizen? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Josh Brown


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Strange first name Dreizy #general

s_warshall@...
 

On 16 Mar 2002 10:50:06 -0800, idayosef@barak-online.net (Ida & Joseph
Schwarcz) wrote:


I had a friend in Rehovot whose English name was Daisy. She told me that
her Yiddish name was Dreyzl. I remember looking it up in Gorr's book and
finding its meaning, but I do not have access the book at present.
However, there is such a name.
According to Gorr, Dreiza and Dreizel are forms of the Slavic name
Drozha

Stephen Warshall
Gloucester, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Discrepancies #general

Joan Silverman <jbsilverman@...>
 

Hi all,

I believe I have e-mailed individually all those with stories and
suggestions, but wanted to say thank you to anyone I might have missed and
to the group. You are all so helpful, especially for one who really
doesn't have time to do this work, but really wants to,and to find people
reaseaching the same name is pure joy!.

Thanks again

Joan Silverman
jbsilverman@attbi.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help locate DRUCKER, recently of Brooklyn and LANGBERG, recently in #general

Donna Rice
 

In NY (Podhajcer Society) cemetery records for Podhajce, Poland
(Podhajce, Galicia, now Podgaytsy, Ukraine) I have found the following:

Morris LANGBERG d. 1940
Rose LANGBERG d. 1951
The person responsible for payment for the upkeep of these to graves was
listed as Jack LANGBERG of Hallandale, Florida. The cemetery office has
been unable to locate Jack LANGBERG in over a year. I hope someone can
help me find him or his family.

Barnett FISCHER (no date for death given)
The person listed on this burial site is Simon DRUCKER of Brooklyn. I
have been unable to locate Mr. DRUCKER. Is anyone familiar with the
DRUCKER family of Brooklyn or the NY area?

In the same Podhajce area, there is a burial listed for a Meyer
LANGBERG, age 40, d. 2/12/60
There is not anyone listed for this burial.

Thanks in advance for any help. Please reply privately.
Donna G. Rice
Bonita Springs Florida
<hurycane@earthlink.net>

Researching: FISCHER, LANGBERG, HECHT, MILCH and BALTUCH >from Podgaytsy
and Buchach Ukraine. GOLSCHMIDT,GOLDSMITH, FEL, FELL, BORTEL, WORTEL,

from Krustpils, Latvia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Immigrants to Cuba #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Hello:

Does anyone one know whether the Cuban government before Castro kept
records of immigrants? My g-g-grandmother, Selki BRAUMEISTER was denied
access to the US when she tried to immigrate with her son after escaping
from a gulag in Siberia. And so her son arranged for her to immigrate to
Cuba. Later, she was on a boat to Tampa, FL. Family lore says that she
was an illegal alien. Also, does an illegal alien mean that there
immigration was not documented, or that they were just not a citizen? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Josh Brown


Seeking BALABAN also #general

David M. Silverman <silverman_david_jg@...>
 

I have been seeking clues to SILVERMAN (Father) and GREENFIELD(mother) for
quite a while; but while living in Turkey for almost a year, I noticed
that the surname BALABAN is not very unusual. I hadn't thought of my
cousin Barney BALABAN for at least 45 years when I lived in Brooklyn, NY,
but now that I have a Turkish wife, I'd like to reach out; and if anyone
knows of Barney (presumably Bernard) or any of his relatives,

please let me know. Who knows, I may have some Turkish roots.

Thanks,
David

SILVERMAN, SILBERMAN, KROMOI, CHROMOI >from Chernowitz
Settled in Manhattan, Brooklyn & Petach Tikvah & other places in Israel;
GREENFIELD, GRUNFELD >from Yanow Lubelski & Rymanow;
Barney BALABAN or relatives >from Brooklyn, NY & ?

Living in Antalya, Turkey


Seizing every chance opportunity to discover family #general

MBernet@...
 

Last Friday, I confirmed by phone a reservation in connection with travel
to Israel. The customer service assistant looked me up and said "Oh, yes,
you're Mr. Morgan BERNET of Othertown, Alternstate." My ears pricked
up. "Are you sure that's the same spelling, B-E-R-N-E-T ?" (repeat
twice more).

There is, to the best of my knowledge, just one Jewish family with that
name. Not many of us left. I, my sons, spouses and children, account for
half the Jewish BERNETS in the world. What a coincidence that another of
the same name should be booking for Israel at the same time as I.

"What town did you say? What state?" I made a note of the town and state,
directed her to my correct name, address and reservation, gave her my
credit card information and hung up.

Through online telephone directories I checked out the BERNETs in that town
and in that state. I found Morgan's e-mail address and wrote him right
away. I have addresses and phone numbers for two other BERNETs who may be
related to him.

I wonder whether I'll get a response? I wonder whether I will perhaps
meet him while checking in at the airport or in the hotel lounge . . . Two
years ago, while signing the guest book at the Cemetery in Bamberg,
Germany, I saw a Hebrew signature just above mine. I could have sworn it
was a Shlomo BERNET(same name as my gggf)--but searches in Israel failed
to find him.

Incidentally, I've discovered that families who converted >from Judaism a
few generations ago, are often uncomfortable when I appear to assume
they're Jewish. Accordingly, when I write to someone who may be descended
from someone on my family list, I always write "My ancestor was [Name] of
[town]; the family at that time was Jewish."

That saves the awkwardness of their having to say, "Well, We're not
Jewish." Of course, once the ice is broken, I fill them in on the family
details. I wonder if I'll hit paydirt this time. I've been mulling over
an idea: how about I make a dozen travel appointments a day and hope for
another rare family name to crop up? Nah! Jewishgen and Gersig and
Frenchsig and Sefardisig and Bohmor . . . keep me busy enough with proven
Useful information

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


MITCHELL, GRUN/GREEN, LIKURNIK #general

Mitchell
 

Hello to all,

I am relatively new to genealogy and new to this list. I have read most
postings over the past two years, searched the archives, including SIGs,
and have enjoyed learning much >from everyone's postings.

I am familiar with the JGFF and FTJP where my name search details are
listed in the former. I have had contact with various researchers of my
family names.

At this point I would like to post my names here. I have searched numerous
permutations of these first names and surnames in my efforts to find clues
to the original names and places of origin.

My pgf Michael MITCHELL (Michayel ben Shim'on ) was born about 1873 in
Cork, Ireland to Simon MITCHELL and Henriette [GRUN / GREEN]. This
information and pggparental names and spellings came >from both the civil
marriage certificate and ketuba of Michael and my pgm Rachel FELDMAN dated
1907 in Auckland, New Zealand.

Where Michael existed between 1873 and 1907 is still a mystery.
His kinnuy may have been Sam.

Around the year 1935, a young woman aged about 20, came >from England to
New Zealand to visit. Her name was "Cissie" LIKURNIK / variations. She
was a relative / 'cousin' to my father Simeon ( Shim'on Yehudah ben
Michayel,) MITCHELL . I have a photo of them together and no other
information.

I am aware that there were MITCHELL's and GREEN's in Dublin, Ireland, but
these names I have don't show up on the Ireland database of 25000 names,
that has been assembled by the IrishJewishGroup. Perhaps they are there in
a different guise, or maybe they were en route to elsewhere when gf Michael
was born.

Ever hoping that these names may mean something to someone out there.

Thank you for your time.
Please respond privately .

Sonya MITCHELL
Hamilton
New Zealand
srmitchell@actrix.co.nz

Searching:
MITCHELL,variations, ?, Cork, Ireland, to Auckland, New Zealand
GRUN, GREEN, variations, ?, Cork, Ireland
LIKURNIK, England
FELDMAN / MADER, Kiev, Russia; to London, England; to Auckland, New Zealand


ROTHMAN or AIKEN from Baltimore #general

Moskowitz <bmosk@...>
 

I am researching the ROITBURD family, I am looking for My uncle's step
children. They lived in Baltimore in the 1940'-1950's. Their mother's
name is Rebecca PENNER AIKEN ROTHMAN, she died in the 60's and is buried
next to my uncle in Hebrew Young Men's Sick Cemetery.

Barbie
Bmosk@sprintmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking BALABAN also #general

David M. Silverman <silverman_david_jg@...>
 

I have been seeking clues to SILVERMAN (Father) and GREENFIELD(mother) for
quite a while; but while living in Turkey for almost a year, I noticed
that the surname BALABAN is not very unusual. I hadn't thought of my
cousin Barney BALABAN for at least 45 years when I lived in Brooklyn, NY,
but now that I have a Turkish wife, I'd like to reach out; and if anyone
knows of Barney (presumably Bernard) or any of his relatives,

please let me know. Who knows, I may have some Turkish roots.

Thanks,
David

SILVERMAN, SILBERMAN, KROMOI, CHROMOI >from Chernowitz
Settled in Manhattan, Brooklyn & Petach Tikvah & other places in Israel;
GREENFIELD, GRUNFELD >from Yanow Lubelski & Rymanow;
Barney BALABAN or relatives >from Brooklyn, NY & ?

Living in Antalya, Turkey


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seizing every chance opportunity to discover family #general

MBernet@...
 

Last Friday, I confirmed by phone a reservation in connection with travel
to Israel. The customer service assistant looked me up and said "Oh, yes,
you're Mr. Morgan BERNET of Othertown, Alternstate." My ears pricked
up. "Are you sure that's the same spelling, B-E-R-N-E-T ?" (repeat
twice more).

There is, to the best of my knowledge, just one Jewish family with that
name. Not many of us left. I, my sons, spouses and children, account for
half the Jewish BERNETS in the world. What a coincidence that another of
the same name should be booking for Israel at the same time as I.

"What town did you say? What state?" I made a note of the town and state,
directed her to my correct name, address and reservation, gave her my
credit card information and hung up.

Through online telephone directories I checked out the BERNETs in that town
and in that state. I found Morgan's e-mail address and wrote him right
away. I have addresses and phone numbers for two other BERNETs who may be
related to him.

I wonder whether I'll get a response? I wonder whether I will perhaps
meet him while checking in at the airport or in the hotel lounge . . . Two
years ago, while signing the guest book at the Cemetery in Bamberg,
Germany, I saw a Hebrew signature just above mine. I could have sworn it
was a Shlomo BERNET(same name as my gggf)--but searches in Israel failed
to find him.

Incidentally, I've discovered that families who converted >from Judaism a
few generations ago, are often uncomfortable when I appear to assume
they're Jewish. Accordingly, when I write to someone who may be descended
from someone on my family list, I always write "My ancestor was [Name] of
[town]; the family at that time was Jewish."

That saves the awkwardness of their having to say, "Well, We're not
Jewish." Of course, once the ice is broken, I fill them in on the family
details. I wonder if I'll hit paydirt this time. I've been mulling over
an idea: how about I make a dozen travel appointments a day and hope for
another rare family name to crop up? Nah! Jewishgen and Gersig and
Frenchsig and Sefardisig and Bohmor . . . keep me busy enough with proven
Useful information

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MITCHELL, GRUN/GREEN, LIKURNIK #general

Mitchell
 

Hello to all,

I am relatively new to genealogy and new to this list. I have read most
postings over the past two years, searched the archives, including SIGs,
and have enjoyed learning much >from everyone's postings.

I am familiar with the JGFF and FTJP where my name search details are
listed in the former. I have had contact with various researchers of my
family names.

At this point I would like to post my names here. I have searched numerous
permutations of these first names and surnames in my efforts to find clues
to the original names and places of origin.

My pgf Michael MITCHELL (Michayel ben Shim'on ) was born about 1873 in
Cork, Ireland to Simon MITCHELL and Henriette [GRUN / GREEN]. This
information and pggparental names and spellings came >from both the civil
marriage certificate and ketuba of Michael and my pgm Rachel FELDMAN dated
1907 in Auckland, New Zealand.

Where Michael existed between 1873 and 1907 is still a mystery.
His kinnuy may have been Sam.

Around the year 1935, a young woman aged about 20, came >from England to
New Zealand to visit. Her name was "Cissie" LIKURNIK / variations. She
was a relative / 'cousin' to my father Simeon ( Shim'on Yehudah ben
Michayel,) MITCHELL . I have a photo of them together and no other
information.

I am aware that there were MITCHELL's and GREEN's in Dublin, Ireland, but
these names I have don't show up on the Ireland database of 25000 names,
that has been assembled by the IrishJewishGroup. Perhaps they are there in
a different guise, or maybe they were en route to elsewhere when gf Michael
was born.

Ever hoping that these names may mean something to someone out there.

Thank you for your time.
Please respond privately .

Sonya MITCHELL
Hamilton
New Zealand
srmitchell@actrix.co.nz

Searching:
MITCHELL,variations, ?, Cork, Ireland, to Auckland, New Zealand
GRUN, GREEN, variations, ?, Cork, Ireland
LIKURNIK, England
FELDMAN / MADER, Kiev, Russia; to London, England; to Auckland, New Zealand


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROTHMAN or AIKEN from Baltimore #general

Moskowitz <bmosk@...>
 

I am researching the ROITBURD family, I am looking for My uncle's step
children. They lived in Baltimore in the 1940'-1950's. Their mother's
name is Rebecca PENNER AIKEN ROTHMAN, she died in the 60's and is buried
next to my uncle in Hebrew Young Men's Sick Cemetery.

Barbie
Bmosk@sprintmail.com


Exciting News! #ciechanow #poland

Stan Zeidenberg
 

We are delighted and very fortunate to be able to announce that a
sponsor has come forth who has agreed to fund the entire
Ciechanow Yizkor Book translation. The sponsor, who will be
managing the project, has hired a translator of international repute.
The translator's references indicate an extremely high level of
professional ability. In addition, these references also state that the
person's work in this area is "obviously a labor of love."

We expect to have a high-quality finished product within nine
months. Stay tuned for further updates.

Harriet Brown
Stan Zeidenberg


#Ciechanow #Poland Exciting News! #ciechanow #poland

Stan Zeidenberg
 

We are delighted and very fortunate to be able to announce that a
sponsor has come forth who has agreed to fund the entire
Ciechanow Yizkor Book translation. The sponsor, who will be
managing the project, has hired a translator of international repute.
The translator's references indicate an extremely high level of
professional ability. In addition, these references also state that the
person's work in this area is "obviously a labor of love."

We expect to have a high-quality finished product within nine
months. Stay tuned for further updates.

Harriet Brown
Stan Zeidenberg


Correct way to indicate our ancestry & origins #general

philafrum
 

3/17/02

Hello Genners,

What is the recommended way to display our ancestry and towns of origin in
our extended signatures? Is there some way to create a template so that we
don't have to retype this information each time we send a message?

Thanks.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@comcast.net

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searching?

Yes, providing you follow procedure:

**surnames are to be in all capital letters,
**towns in proper upper and lower case letters.

For identification of people with very common surnames (Goldberg, Cohen,
Levine) it is also a good idea to include the place of origin and to where
and when the family or person you are searching emigrated. For example:

"GOLDBERG Vienna, Austria -> Detroit, Michigan 1921"

Lists of surnames being searched may be no longer than six lines of text
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space. If you are in the habit of sending in "laundry lists" of names
being searched, please consider setting up as many six line lists which as
you need. Then, these can used in rotation.


Census discrepancies #general

HENKEN9@...
 

Genners,

I would like to add to Martha Levinson's response to Joan Silverman's
complaints about the census. In working with the census >from the
Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, especially in 1910, there are pages upon
pages of families listed where the enumerator noted that no one spoke
english. In some buildings covered by the same enumerator, some spoke only
yiddish, some only italian. There is no indication if the enumerator
spoke yiddish or another language beside english. Some of the enumerators
had Jewish-sounding names, others didn't. I would hope that some scholarly
text somewhere provides research on how enumerator/interviewee
communicated. Were professional translators provided, or did they find a
neighbor who knew a little english? Were the enumerators multi-lingual?
Clearly there was major room for error and misunderstanding. And I didn't
mention lousy penmanship.

Ty Henken
Centennial, Colo.
Henken9@aol.com

WOLODARSKY>Riga;Novogeorgiyvsk,Olegsandria,Kherson;Astrakhan:
INTRELEGATOR>Siauliai,Kaunas:
LEVITT,LEVIN>Cherven,Minsk:
POLOCHINIKOFF/POLTINIKOW>Gomel,Mogilev:
PECKEL>Ushachi, Vitebsk:
HENKEN, SMOLINSKY>Vitebsk.