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Port of entry for Minnesota immigrants #general

shel <shel@...>
 

I am told that many of my relatives entered the U. S. through St. Albans.
They settled in St. Paul

Shel Brucker
email: shel@ditialinsight.info
web site: www.BruckerFamily.net

Researching:
BRUCKER, FELLER, GRAUBART, GARTNER, KLEIN >from Radautz &
Bukowina,Romania/Ukraine, and in Brassov, Budapest and Bucharest, Hungary
and St.Paul MN BRUCKER, HAGUENAUER >from Paris, France
GREENBERG, GRUNBERG, GRIINBERG AND GERTLER >from Lodz,Poland and St. Paul,MN
ZILBERBERG in Poland BERCOVITZ in St. Paul, MN, Los Angeles and Hungary?
WEINERT >from Brassov, Romania/Hungary


EBIN and WIDLANSKY #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Genners,

I'll try to be brief! I have an English PRINCE family. The eldest son
emigrated to New York City, married, and had a daughter Dora. In 1922
Dora married Oscar EBIN. I was able to retrieve the marriage
certificate >from the LDS library. His parents were listed as Hyman
and Yetta.

I also retrieved a death certificate for an Oscar EBIN, after finding
that name in the SSDI. He died in Florida in 1983. The informant was
his wife, who gave her name as Mildred WIDLANSKY.

Naturally there could be several reasons for the above, there could
have been two Oscar EBINS, or there is only one, Dora died then Oscar
remarried. Either way, is there anyone "out there" who is researching
WIDLANSKY and knows when Oscar married Mildred. (I cannot really look
for a marriage certificate when I don't know when or where it took
place.) If it was a second marriage, and it occurred after Oscar's
parents had died, then it would account for his parents names on the
death certificate being given as Abraham and Yenta, and not Hyman and
Yenta.

Please reply privately thank you,


Jeremy Frankel
Oakland, California
EBIN: Russia; New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland; London, England
GOLD(RATH): Praszka, Poland; London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania; London, England; NYC, NY, USA
LEVY(later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland; London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland; London, England; NYC, NY, USA


Re: Surname Spelling Variations #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Of course, Jankiel is a diminutive of Jakob. If you said SANDOGURSKY
someone could easily write SADOGURSKY in a record. All that is pretty
easy. The hard part is determining whether the 2 families are branches of
one tree, and at this point I would say: It doesn't really matter.

With 2 families (or 2 branches) 25 miles apart, you have to consider both
and work with both in mind. Actually I have said, and others also, that
similarly (odd) named families within 40 miles are likely (but not
necessarily) the same. But whether they are or not, if you do research in
some other little shtetl in the area and find some SADOGURSKY records, you
would have to be aware that it could be related to 'your' SANDEGURSKY
family or 'the other' SADOGURSKY family. If it were the son of Mosko, was
it likely the son of the Moshko you already know? Maybe you will find that
they are the same or different-for now you have to work on both.


Of course, in small towns and small areas, chances are that they are
related.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY

By the way, I have never heard of someone taking his father's name as his
own-which doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but a secular name Jacob-in
English-could be used by someone named Itzig in Yiddish and Yitzchach in
Hebrew, as could any other English name.


Re: immigration patterns to San Francisco #general

Vitdoc@...
 

I noticed explanations on how family traveled to various places like
Minnesota. In the early 1850s a relative of mine >from Bohemia traveled to
San Francisco >from New York via Nicaragua on the Vanderbilt Line--cost
$200.00.
He traveled on the boat known as the Northern Lights >from New York to San
Juan Del Norte. Natives then took him on a small boat up the Nicaraguan
River, the walked and muled to the Pacific Ocean side where they waited a
month for a steamer. The trip to San francisco was most difficult and many
died of panama Fever.

Susan Boyer
LA Cailfornia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Port of entry for Minnesota immigrants #general

shel <shel@...>
 

I am told that many of my relatives entered the U. S. through St. Albans.
They settled in St. Paul

Shel Brucker
email: shel@ditialinsight.info
web site: www.BruckerFamily.net

Researching:
BRUCKER, FELLER, GRAUBART, GARTNER, KLEIN >from Radautz &
Bukowina,Romania/Ukraine, and in Brassov, Budapest and Bucharest, Hungary
and St.Paul MN BRUCKER, HAGUENAUER >from Paris, France
GREENBERG, GRUNBERG, GRIINBERG AND GERTLER >from Lodz,Poland and St. Paul,MN
ZILBERBERG in Poland BERCOVITZ in St. Paul, MN, Los Angeles and Hungary?
WEINERT >from Brassov, Romania/Hungary


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EBIN and WIDLANSKY #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Genners,

I'll try to be brief! I have an English PRINCE family. The eldest son
emigrated to New York City, married, and had a daughter Dora. In 1922
Dora married Oscar EBIN. I was able to retrieve the marriage
certificate >from the LDS library. His parents were listed as Hyman
and Yetta.

I also retrieved a death certificate for an Oscar EBIN, after finding
that name in the SSDI. He died in Florida in 1983. The informant was
his wife, who gave her name as Mildred WIDLANSKY.

Naturally there could be several reasons for the above, there could
have been two Oscar EBINS, or there is only one, Dora died then Oscar
remarried. Either way, is there anyone "out there" who is researching
WIDLANSKY and knows when Oscar married Mildred. (I cannot really look
for a marriage certificate when I don't know when or where it took
place.) If it was a second marriage, and it occurred after Oscar's
parents had died, then it would account for his parents names on the
death certificate being given as Abraham and Yenta, and not Hyman and
Yenta.

Please reply privately thank you,


Jeremy Frankel
Oakland, California
EBIN: Russia; New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland; London, England
GOLD(RATH): Praszka, Poland; London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania; London, England; NYC, NY, USA
LEVY(later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland; London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland; London, England; NYC, NY, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surname Spelling Variations #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Of course, Jankiel is a diminutive of Jakob. If you said SANDOGURSKY
someone could easily write SADOGURSKY in a record. All that is pretty
easy. The hard part is determining whether the 2 families are branches of
one tree, and at this point I would say: It doesn't really matter.

With 2 families (or 2 branches) 25 miles apart, you have to consider both
and work with both in mind. Actually I have said, and others also, that
similarly (odd) named families within 40 miles are likely (but not
necessarily) the same. But whether they are or not, if you do research in
some other little shtetl in the area and find some SADOGURSKY records, you
would have to be aware that it could be related to 'your' SANDEGURSKY
family or 'the other' SADOGURSKY family. If it were the son of Mosko, was
it likely the son of the Moshko you already know? Maybe you will find that
they are the same or different-for now you have to work on both.


Of course, in small towns and small areas, chances are that they are
related.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY

By the way, I have never heard of someone taking his father's name as his
own-which doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but a secular name Jacob-in
English-could be used by someone named Itzig in Yiddish and Yitzchach in
Hebrew, as could any other English name.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: immigration patterns to San Francisco #general

Vitdoc@...
 

I noticed explanations on how family traveled to various places like
Minnesota. In the early 1850s a relative of mine >from Bohemia traveled to
San Francisco >from New York via Nicaragua on the Vanderbilt Line--cost
$200.00.
He traveled on the boat known as the Northern Lights >from New York to San
Juan Del Norte. Natives then took him on a small boat up the Nicaraguan
River, the walked and muled to the Pacific Ocean side where they waited a
month for a steamer. The trip to San francisco was most difficult and many
died of panama Fever.

Susan Boyer
LA Cailfornia


Re: Dobromil birth, marriage death records in L'viv #galicia

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 3/16/02 1:59:35 PM, Dennis Baer writes:

<< Kahlile Mehr, the Ukraine expert, who works for the Family History Library
of Salt Lake City, Utah told me recently that when he visited Ukraine in
1992 that the archivist in L'viv told him that the Jewish birth, marriage
and death records for Dobromil, Galicia now reside at the L'viv archives in
Ukraine.

Can anyone corroborate this? I have written to the L'viv archives but have
not gotten a reply as yet.>>

Fond 701, Series 1 contains "church books" of the Jewish Community in L'viv
for the years 1785-1942 in 419 volumes. Dobromil is one of the communities
covered.

Bob Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Dobromil birth, marriage death records in L'viv #galicia

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 3/16/02 1:59:35 PM, Dennis Baer writes:

<< Kahlile Mehr, the Ukraine expert, who works for the Family History Library
of Salt Lake City, Utah told me recently that when he visited Ukraine in
1992 that the archivist in L'viv told him that the Jewish birth, marriage
and death records for Dobromil, Galicia now reside at the L'viv archives in
Ukraine.

Can anyone corroborate this? I have written to the L'viv archives but have
not gotten a reply as yet.>>

Fond 701, Series 1 contains "church books" of the Jewish Community in L'viv
for the years 1785-1942 in 419 volumes. Dobromil is one of the communities
covered.

Bob Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com


cieszanow #galicia

shana green <charna@...>
 

Would any now where I can find an old map or street map of Cieszanow =
before it was burned down in 1940? I am looking for the street =
krasinskego.Our house was on top of the hill and we looked straight =
into the Ukraine Orthodox church,not into the Polish church.
shana
melbourne australia
looking for szuster,miller,goldberg,druker all >from cieszanow.


GG Family Finder - 2002 #galicia

Debbie Raff <seraff@...>
 

I just received the 2002 edition of the "Gesher Galicia Family Finder". The
new map is quite interesting, and the brightly-colored cover is just great.
I don't think I will be able to misplace this year's edition. Great job!
Debbie Raff


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia cieszanow #galicia

shana green <charna@...>
 

Would any now where I can find an old map or street map of Cieszanow =
before it was burned down in 1940? I am looking for the street =
krasinskego.Our house was on top of the hill and we looked straight =
into the Ukraine Orthodox church,not into the Polish church.
shana
melbourne australia
looking for szuster,miller,goldberg,druker all >from cieszanow.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia GG Family Finder - 2002 #galicia

Debbie Raff <seraff@...>
 

I just received the 2002 edition of the "Gesher Galicia Family Finder". The
new map is quite interesting, and the brightly-colored cover is just great.
I don't think I will be able to misplace this year's edition. Great job!
Debbie Raff


Re: Pomona California burials #general

Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
 

At 12:00 AM -0600 3/16/02, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
Subject: Pomona California burials
From: "IsraelP" <zach4v6@actcom.co.il>
The IAJGS cemetery project does not seem to have a listing for cemeteries
in Pomona California. Can anyone tell me where and by whom Jews are/were
bburied there?

Israel Pickholtz
To the best of my knowledge there are no Jewish Cemetaries in Pomona.

Most Jews in southern California are buried in "Los Angeles" cemetaries.
Ted ? has published a List on his web page (I leave you to search the
Jewish Gen archives).

There are also 2 Jewish Cemetaries in San Bernadino County - just east of
Pomona. Both are "full" One is at Evergreen Cemetary in Bloomington and
the other one shows on my 1970 road map of the City of San Bernardino.

Isreal - send me the name of the deceased and the approximate date of
death and I'll see if it is on our Temple's (Temple Sholom of Ontario)
yahrzeit list. There is also Temple Beth Isreal in Pomona and I'll
provide a street address and/or phone mumber and URLs upon request.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pomona California burials #general

Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
 

At 12:00 AM -0600 3/16/02, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
Subject: Pomona California burials
From: "IsraelP" <zach4v6@actcom.co.il>
The IAJGS cemetery project does not seem to have a listing for cemeteries
in Pomona California. Can anyone tell me where and by whom Jews are/were
bburied there?

Israel Pickholtz
To the best of my knowledge there are no Jewish Cemetaries in Pomona.

Most Jews in southern California are buried in "Los Angeles" cemetaries.
Ted ? has published a List on his web page (I leave you to search the
Jewish Gen archives).

There are also 2 Jewish Cemetaries in San Bernadino County - just east of
Pomona. Both are "full" One is at Evergreen Cemetary in Bloomington and
the other one shows on my 1970 road map of the City of San Bernardino.

Isreal - send me the name of the deceased and the approximate date of
death and I'll see if it is on our Temple's (Temple Sholom of Ontario)
yahrzeit list. There is also Temple Beth Isreal in Pomona and I'll
provide a street address and/or phone mumber and URLs upon request.


MORDESOWITZ (sp?) SAMUELS, SELS, SELSKI, SIMON, FEINBERG from Serejie, Lithuania #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

I am researching the following surnames >from Serejie, Suwalk and Vilna
area of Lithuania. MORDESOWITZ became SAMUELS in NYC around l910 and
SELSKI became SELS around the same timeframe.

Anyone searching these names >from this area, please contact me.
Thank you

Diane Glazer Jacobs
Researching
SINGMAN, SCHUMKAV, SAMUELS, MORDESOWITZ, ROSENBERG,
HYMES, LEVY, LESNIE, STEINBERG, DICK, DICKOVSKY, EICHEL,
SHALTAKOFF, COHEN


Re: Stutthof survivors #general

Oliver Friedman <devnull@...>
 

On 15 Mar 2002 10:35:30 -0800, Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de (Peter Zimmer)
wrote:

Has anybody tried to get information >from the museum at Stutthoff? With
success?
Hello,

I had a question regarding the monograph (offered on the web-site) and
wrote an email to Mr. Zygmunt Proniewicz, who is maintaining that museum
*privately* (!).

He replied after about a week, on Sun, 9 Sep 2001.

Contact:

Museum Stutthof
Zygmunt Proniewicz
ul. Lipowa 7
Muzealna 6
82-110 Sztutowo
- Poland -

tel.(0 1044 55) 247 80 71
e-mail: ekopro@kki.pl
ekopro@softel.com.pl
http://www.kki.pl/ekopro
http://www.kki.net.pl/~museum

The International Tracing Service of the Red Cross in Arolsen
(http://www.its-arolsen.org) might have information on at least
some of the survivors.

According to their July 1949 edition of the "Catalogue of Camps and
Prisons in Germany and German-Occupied Territories" Stutthof maintained
the following Sub-Camps:

Bocion -- Bottschin
Bromberg -- Bydgoszcz
Brusy -- Bruss
Chorabie -- Kiobia
Cieszyny -- Cieszyn
Danzig -- Gdansk
Dziemiany -- Dzimianen
Elbing -- Elblag
Garzcyn -- Gartschin
Gdynia -- Gdingen -- Gotenhafen
Grodno
Gutowo
Gwizdziny -- Gwisdzyn
Kokoszki -- Kokoschken
Krzemieniewo
Lauenburg -- Lebork
Malki -- Malken
Mierzynek
Niskie Brodno
Pruszcz -- Praust
Sophienwalde
Stagorod -- Preussisch Stargard
Stolp -- Slupsk
Szerokopas -- Scherokopas

HTH,

Oliver


Re: Manhattan Beach #general

rsacks545@...
 

In Brooklyn, you will find Manhattan Beach. The beach was originally
called Oriental Beach. It's a popular beach destination in Brooklyn,
surrounded by about 300 single family homes beginning on the south side of
Sheepshead Bay and terminating at the Atlantic Ocean. A bit further up
the road, you'll find Brighton Beach and then a mile or two further on,
you'll reach Coney Island.

Hope this information is helpful

Renee Sacks
Searching KENIGSBERG, REISFELD, RAJBENBACH/Lodz, Poland


Re: Stutthof survivors #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

In the Jewishben digest dated March 15, message #26, Peter Germany asked :
Has anybody tried to get information >from the museum at Stutthoff? With
success ?
People in that museum are very friendly and helpful. A group of parents of
a deportee >from Convoy #73 went there last year and could obtain a large
information concerning the Stutthof camp. A few years sooner, I wrote them
too and I received friendly replies, with the list of survivors of the
Convoy #73. Just write to the below address with an International Reply
Coupon, and I'm sure that you'll receive an answer.

Muzeum Stutthof
Dyrektor Mrs Janina Grabowska-Chatka
Ul. Muzealna
6 82 - 110 Sztutowo
Woj. Elblaskie 0276110
Poland

Eve Line Blum
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (French JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org