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Cemetery book
#belarus
Chaim freedman
David Fox asked about MatildaTagger's book "Printed books on Jewish
Cemeteries in the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem", The book, in English, lists 174 books >from many places in Europe, aside from Belarus. Nevertheless it is worthwhile holding such a book in one'spersonal library. The author's email is tagger@actcom.co.il Chaim Freedman Petah Tikvah, Israel email: chaimjan@zahav.net.il web site: http://www.avotaynu.com/gaonbook.html Subject: Book on Jewish Cemeteries From: "David M. Fox" <davefox73@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:46:46 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4 Is there a member of the SIG who has a copy of the following book and might be willing to write a review for the discussion group? Specifically, in what language is the book written? Is there anything in the book that would be of value to people researching families >from Belarus? Etc. Please respond to the discussion group, so we don't have multiple people doing the same the same review. Tagger, Mathilde. "Printed books on Jewish Cemeteries in the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem", an annotated bibliography. Jerusalem, Israel Genealogical Society, 1997. Thanks, Dave
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Cemetery book
#belarus
Chaim freedman
David Fox asked about MatildaTagger's book "Printed books on Jewish
Cemeteries in the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem", The book, in English, lists 174 books >from many places in Europe, aside from Belarus. Nevertheless it is worthwhile holding such a book in one'spersonal library. The author's email is tagger@actcom.co.il Chaim Freedman Petah Tikvah, Israel email: chaimjan@zahav.net.il web site: http://www.avotaynu.com/gaonbook.html Subject: Book on Jewish Cemeteries From: "David M. Fox" <davefox73@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:46:46 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4 Is there a member of the SIG who has a copy of the following book and might be willing to write a review for the discussion group? Specifically, in what language is the book written? Is there anything in the book that would be of value to people researching families >from Belarus? Etc. Please respond to the discussion group, so we don't have multiple people doing the same the same review. Tagger, Mathilde. "Printed books on Jewish Cemeteries in the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem", an annotated bibliography. Jerusalem, Israel Genealogical Society, 1997. Thanks, Dave
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Re: "The Shvartze D'Glubocka"
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NFatouros@...
On Feb.25/02 Varda Epstein said she had had no fruitful results >from her
post to the RavSig about someone in her husband's tree who was called "The Shvartze D'Glubocka." I don't know a thing about that person, and have only read a little about the Rebbes of Lubavitch and the Chabad movement. "Der Alte," or the "Alter Rebbe" was a student of Dov Ber, the Maggid of Mezeritch. His name was Shneur Zalman (1745-1812.) Online read for instance: http://www.expage.com/page/chabad/ There is an email address at this website to which one can write for information or answers to questions. "The Schvartze's" town could have have been "Glubok" or "Hluboka," also called "Glubokoye" or "Glebokie." According to my Russian dictionary, the town's name does mean "deep," perhaps suggesting that it is situated in a vale between two fairly steep hills. (I wonder whether a person could be characterized as a "dark man of deep thought.") The town is or was northeast of Vilna. There is a memorial book called " Churban Glubok" published in 1956, in which "the black man" or "the dark man" may be mentioned. Also, the town is mentioned in the Encyclopedia Judaica. I haven't checked to see in which libraries the yizkor book can be located or whether part or all of it has been put online. Those tasks I'll leave to Ms. Epstein. Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN) Bloomington, Indiana NFatouros@aol.com Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "The Shvartze D'Glubocka"
#general
NFatouros@...
On Feb.25/02 Varda Epstein said she had had no fruitful results >from her
post to the RavSig about someone in her husband's tree who was called "The Shvartze D'Glubocka." I don't know a thing about that person, and have only read a little about the Rebbes of Lubavitch and the Chabad movement. "Der Alte," or the "Alter Rebbe" was a student of Dov Ber, the Maggid of Mezeritch. His name was Shneur Zalman (1745-1812.) Online read for instance: http://www.expage.com/page/chabad/ There is an email address at this website to which one can write for information or answers to questions. "The Schvartze's" town could have have been "Glubok" or "Hluboka," also called "Glubokoye" or "Glebokie." According to my Russian dictionary, the town's name does mean "deep," perhaps suggesting that it is situated in a vale between two fairly steep hills. (I wonder whether a person could be characterized as a "dark man of deep thought.") The town is or was northeast of Vilna. There is a memorial book called " Churban Glubok" published in 1956, in which "the black man" or "the dark man" may be mentioned. Also, the town is mentioned in the Encyclopedia Judaica. I haven't checked to see in which libraries the yizkor book can be located or whether part or all of it has been put online. Those tasks I'll leave to Ms. Epstein. Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN) Bloomington, Indiana NFatouros@aol.com Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.
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Re: Latvian invoice translation?
#latvia
annette reilly
Arlene,
Thankyou very much for the details of my invoice. Thanks again annette reilly Annette I am replying via the newsgroup as this is$subst('Email.Unsub') __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Chartshttp://uk.my.yahoo.com
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Latvian invoice translation?
#latvia
annette reilly
Arlene,
Thankyou very much for the details of my invoice. Thanks again annette reilly Annette I am replying via the newsgroup as this is$subst('Email.Unsub') __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Chartshttp://uk.my.yahoo.com
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Re: New York City Records
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
Abby Schmelling asked:
"Is it possible to find any records, marriage and birth >from 1878-1882? For that matter, is it possible to find arrival records for this time? The Immigration >from the Russian Empire book >from 1880 does not list this family." Yes, records in New York City include time earlier than that. My gr grandparents (2 couples) were married in 1870 and both have marriage records. Birth records are not so good because babies were born at home, and people didn't bother to register births-none of my gr aunts and uncles except one born about 1900 had a birth record I could find. Death records are actually much better; I was told that burials could not be done without a death certificate so they are virtually complete much earlier-my gr gr grandfather died in 1864 and has one. All these records are available at the NY City Archives and indexes are available at the LDS libraries. You can also write to NY City Archives and ask for a search-however it is always better if you search for yourself, you know how thorough you are. The immigration records are not indexed in New York for the years you are interested in. I am in the same boat; I have searched rolls and rolls of microfilm for likely years and found nothing. It is always possible that people didn't arrive in New York City but Philadelphia or elsewhere which you would have to search separately. It is possible that they came with different names on the list than what you think. On the other hand, I have concluded that my family probably swam across. Sally Bruckheimer Albany, NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: New York City Records
#general
Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
Abby Schmelling asked:
"Is it possible to find any records, marriage and birth >from 1878-1882? For that matter, is it possible to find arrival records for this time? The Immigration >from the Russian Empire book >from 1880 does not list this family." Yes, records in New York City include time earlier than that. My gr grandparents (2 couples) were married in 1870 and both have marriage records. Birth records are not so good because babies were born at home, and people didn't bother to register births-none of my gr aunts and uncles except one born about 1900 had a birth record I could find. Death records are actually much better; I was told that burials could not be done without a death certificate so they are virtually complete much earlier-my gr gr grandfather died in 1864 and has one. All these records are available at the NY City Archives and indexes are available at the LDS libraries. You can also write to NY City Archives and ask for a search-however it is always better if you search for yourself, you know how thorough you are. The immigration records are not indexed in New York for the years you are interested in. I am in the same boat; I have searched rolls and rolls of microfilm for likely years and found nothing. It is always possible that people didn't arrive in New York City but Philadelphia or elsewhere which you would have to search separately. It is possible that they came with different names on the list than what you think. On the other hand, I have concluded that my family probably swam across. Sally Bruckheimer Albany, NY
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Hidden Child Survivors in France
#general
Susana Leistner Bloch
We are posting this message on behalf of Frederique Imer-Loup . The
message was received in French. This is the translation: If you can help Frederique please reply to < bloch@mts.net > Thank You. Susana Leistner Bloch Project Manager, JewishGen International Desk << I am searching for my biological grandparents, who were most probably Jewish. In the framework of this search, I met last June with Irene Savignon, secretary-general of the organization for Hidden Children ("Enfants caches") in Paris. She suggested I write a posting for their next newsletter to try to identify my grandparents. In the course of my research (which I have described briefly in my personal website at: http://perso.club-internet.fr/imerloup/page08.html I discovered a trail of children hidden directly or indirectly through a private adoption charity called Adoption Francaise. However, none of these children was reunited with their biological family after the war. Since they were placed in the care of these families at a very young age between 1939 and 1944 (often younger than 4), they have no knowledge of their name at birth; this makes my research very problematic. You could help me by providing any information you have about Jewish mothers or families in France who entrusted their children to orphanages, or to midwives or social workers, in order to save them between 1939 and 1944, and then lost touch with them after the war. (It is possible that they were told that the children had perished.) I am most interested in the cities of Paris, St Quay Portrieux, Caen, Bayeux, Poitiers and Reims. Thanking you in advance for your help, Frederique Imer-Loup >>
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hidden Child Survivors in France
#general
Susana Leistner Bloch
We are posting this message on behalf of Frederique Imer-Loup . The
message was received in French. This is the translation: If you can help Frederique please reply to < bloch@mts.net > Thank You. Susana Leistner Bloch Project Manager, JewishGen International Desk << I am searching for my biological grandparents, who were most probably Jewish. In the framework of this search, I met last June with Irene Savignon, secretary-general of the organization for Hidden Children ("Enfants caches") in Paris. She suggested I write a posting for their next newsletter to try to identify my grandparents. In the course of my research (which I have described briefly in my personal website at: http://perso.club-internet.fr/imerloup/page08.html I discovered a trail of children hidden directly or indirectly through a private adoption charity called Adoption Francaise. However, none of these children was reunited with their biological family after the war. Since they were placed in the care of these families at a very young age between 1939 and 1944 (often younger than 4), they have no knowledge of their name at birth; this makes my research very problematic. You could help me by providing any information you have about Jewish mothers or families in France who entrusted their children to orphanages, or to midwives or social workers, in order to save them between 1939 and 1944, and then lost touch with them after the war. (It is possible that they were told that the children had perished.) I am most interested in the cities of Paris, St Quay Portrieux, Caen, Bayeux, Poitiers and Reims. Thanking you in advance for your help, Frederique Imer-Loup >>
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V.M. Two cyrillic birth-acts KO(H)N for translation , please !
#general
Mendelssohn <mendelssohn@...>
Dear friends,
Researching a Tadeusz KO(H)N born in Poland around 1895, I would be very happy to learn if one of this two birth-act (cyrillic) is the good one. Thanks in advance if you can translate them for me , and please respond privately . Best regards, Florence Mendelssohn (France) ViewMate Files 1322 and 1323 at the following url : http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1322_.html http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1323_.html Researching (Poland) : BORKEWICZ ; DUTLINGER , KAMINSKI ; KO(H)N; MARKUSFELD ; MENDELSSOHN ; PRENTKI ; SZULCMAN
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surname SZABZON or SZABASON
#general
Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
Dear all,
Does this surname rings the bell in your tree? Please reply in private. Thanks and belated chag Purim sameach Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br> Sao Paulo - Brazil
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with DNA it's yea or nay
#general
carol skydell <cwskydell@...>
My sister and I have been involved in genealogy since 1995 and are blessed
with a highly unusual surname, FELDHERR, making the search incredibly easy. It also enabled us to come forth with a hypothesis which could only be proven by DNA testing <g> Bear with me here....this may be as valuable a lesson to you as it has been for me and my research right hand, my sister Eleanor Bien. With this unusual German surname and a title to boot, we managed to find only one other family so named in the U.S. and was also Jewish. Here's what the research revealed: Their ancestral origins were in the same city as ours, Rzeszow, formerly Galicia and now Poland. Their great uncle and our great uncle lived in the same New York City lower east side tenement at exactly the same time and were listed in the NYC directory. One of their uncles was listed in the Manhattan law office of our father in a NYCity directory for 1934. Now, given all that information, what would you say the chances of two Jewish families, each with the same surname that appears nowhere else in the United States and coming >from the same place were not related? Slim to none, right.? Wrong! The resultant DNA tests between direct male descendants >from each family line did not match on a single marker! So much for a well founded hypothesis <grin> when the definitive test says "nope.....despite all that you are not descended >from a common ancestor! " In addition, they bear the cohain gene, we do not. So form your hypotheses folks....it keeps you going and focused....but when push comes to shove and you have not found a single birth record with a common progenitor despite all the records that have turned up, you need the final, definitive test to prove....or in this case to disprove. We are still left with the mystery of how such an unusual surname came to be in two Jewish families......but that's a matter of conjecture since there are no records on a surname designation. I guess we can play with that one for a long time to come. Carol Skydell Laguna Woods, CA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen V.M. Two cyrillic birth-acts KO(H)N for translation , please !
#general
Mendelssohn <mendelssohn@...>
Dear friends,
Researching a Tadeusz KO(H)N born in Poland around 1895, I would be very happy to learn if one of this two birth-act (cyrillic) is the good one. Thanks in advance if you can translate them for me , and please respond privately . Best regards, Florence Mendelssohn (France) ViewMate Files 1322 and 1323 at the following url : http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1322_.html http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1323_.html Researching (Poland) : BORKEWICZ ; DUTLINGER , KAMINSKI ; KO(H)N; MARKUSFELD ; MENDELSSOHN ; PRENTKI ; SZULCMAN
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen surname SZABZON or SZABASON
#general
Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
Dear all,
Does this surname rings the bell in your tree? Please reply in private. Thanks and belated chag Purim sameach Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br> Sao Paulo - Brazil
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen with DNA it's yea or nay
#general
carol skydell <cwskydell@...>
My sister and I have been involved in genealogy since 1995 and are blessed
with a highly unusual surname, FELDHERR, making the search incredibly easy. It also enabled us to come forth with a hypothesis which could only be proven by DNA testing <g> Bear with me here....this may be as valuable a lesson to you as it has been for me and my research right hand, my sister Eleanor Bien. With this unusual German surname and a title to boot, we managed to find only one other family so named in the U.S. and was also Jewish. Here's what the research revealed: Their ancestral origins were in the same city as ours, Rzeszow, formerly Galicia and now Poland. Their great uncle and our great uncle lived in the same New York City lower east side tenement at exactly the same time and were listed in the NYC directory. One of their uncles was listed in the Manhattan law office of our father in a NYCity directory for 1934. Now, given all that information, what would you say the chances of two Jewish families, each with the same surname that appears nowhere else in the United States and coming >from the same place were not related? Slim to none, right.? Wrong! The resultant DNA tests between direct male descendants >from each family line did not match on a single marker! So much for a well founded hypothesis <grin> when the definitive test says "nope.....despite all that you are not descended >from a common ancestor! " In addition, they bear the cohain gene, we do not. So form your hypotheses folks....it keeps you going and focused....but when push comes to shove and you have not found a single birth record with a common progenitor despite all the records that have turned up, you need the final, definitive test to prove....or in this case to disprove. We are still left with the mystery of how such an unusual surname came to be in two Jewish families......but that's a matter of conjecture since there are no records on a surname designation. I guess we can play with that one for a long time to come. Carol Skydell Laguna Woods, CA
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Manifest notation
#general
markjschwartz@...
I have a question that has stumped me for over a year....maybe one of you can
help. In the arrival manifest entries for the S.S. Cymric, arriving in Boston in the Spring of 1905 there are entries for my grandfather, his sister and mother. Manus Schwartzblatt, Dvosya Schwartzblatt, and Feige Schwartzblatt. There is also a fourth entry for a Leah Schwartzblatt, someone whose name means nothing to anyone in the family. Next to Manus's name is the petition/declaration number in the familiar format 1-xxxxxxx. I have used this number to get a copy of his declaration and naturalization petition. Next to Leah's name is the following number: "23-14877". I have checked the INS web site to see if this series of numbers means anything http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/aboutins/history/manif/annot3.htm, but it has no obvious answer. I also do not have access to the article Marian Smith wrote about these notations in Avotaynu a few years ago. Does anyone know what the numbers 23-14877 stand for? Thanks. Mark Schwartz Arlington, Virginia Searching: SHVARTSBLAT/SCHWARTZBLAT (Rafalovka, Zhitomir), LEFKOVICH (Sniadowo), PERMUT (Kobrin), BURAK/BORAK (Lomza), FRUMAN/FREEMAN/GREENFIELD (Korets), CHELST (Rozan), SKLOVITZ/SOKOLOVITZ (Rozan).
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Manifest notation
#general
markjschwartz@...
I have a question that has stumped me for over a year....maybe one of you can
help. In the arrival manifest entries for the S.S. Cymric, arriving in Boston in the Spring of 1905 there are entries for my grandfather, his sister and mother. Manus Schwartzblatt, Dvosya Schwartzblatt, and Feige Schwartzblatt. There is also a fourth entry for a Leah Schwartzblatt, someone whose name means nothing to anyone in the family. Next to Manus's name is the petition/declaration number in the familiar format 1-xxxxxxx. I have used this number to get a copy of his declaration and naturalization petition. Next to Leah's name is the following number: "23-14877". I have checked the INS web site to see if this series of numbers means anything http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/aboutins/history/manif/annot3.htm, but it has no obvious answer. I also do not have access to the article Marian Smith wrote about these notations in Avotaynu a few years ago. Does anyone know what the numbers 23-14877 stand for? Thanks. Mark Schwartz Arlington, Virginia Searching: SHVARTSBLAT/SCHWARTZBLAT (Rafalovka, Zhitomir), LEFKOVICH (Sniadowo), PERMUT (Kobrin), BURAK/BORAK (Lomza), FRUMAN/FREEMAN/GREENFIELD (Korets), CHELST (Rozan), SKLOVITZ/SOKOLOVITZ (Rozan).
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Radomsko Holocaust Death List
#general
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
I have now received a new and complete copy of the Radomsko Holocaust Death
List. This time, it is an original copy, printed on thick glossy paper. For those interested, I have scanned this document (it lacks date, publisher, or author) and I have put it here: http://www4.wittenberg.edu/academics/music/kazez/rado-holo-new/ The names are organized by surname and then by family unit. This list comes from my TELMAN-OFMAN cousin, a man who survived the Holocaust in Radomsko,Poland. In all, there are over 2000 names, in 39 columns. Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu> Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI, BIDA http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/ MODERATOR'S NOTE: This list is in the Hebrew alphabet and may require translation if one does not read Hebrew.
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Fare sale Atlanta to Toronto?
#general
Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
Dear group,
There is currently a fare sale for flights >from Atlanta to Toronto, on several airlines. The tickets may be used until well after the conference, but there's a catch. It's a companion deal - two people have to buy tickets. So, is anyone in the Atlanta area planning to go to the conference, and willing to go a few days early? The price is about $158. round trip, which is a huge deal. Please respond privately. Hilary Henkin Atlanta, Georgia
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