Date   

Manhattan #general

Peter Zimmer <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

I want to than everybody who helped me with my Manhattan question relatives.
I tried to answer you personally but might have forgotten someone.
It seems as though it was not Avenue but street, I will find out >from the
photocopies of records. And then perhaps ask again.
Peter
Luedinghausen
Germany


need help in Camarillo, CA #general

carol skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

Would appreciate if somebody living in close proximity to Camarillo, CA
could get in touch with me regarding some information about a Camarillo
street address.

Many thanks in advance
Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods, CA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Manhattan #general

Peter Zimmer <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

I want to than everybody who helped me with my Manhattan question relatives.
I tried to answer you personally but might have forgotten someone.
It seems as though it was not Avenue but street, I will find out >from the
photocopies of records. And then perhaps ask again.
Peter
Luedinghausen
Germany


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen need help in Camarillo, CA #general

carol skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

Would appreciate if somebody living in close proximity to Camarillo, CA
could get in touch with me regarding some information about a Camarillo
street address.

Many thanks in advance
Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods, CA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


with DNA it's yea or nay #galicia

carol skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

My sister and I have been involved in genealogy since 1995 and are blessed
with a highly unusual surname, FELDHERR, making the search incredibly
easy. It also enabled us to come forth with a hypothesis which could
only be proven by DNA testing <g>

Bear with me here....this may be as valuable a lesson to you as it has been
for me and my research right hand, my sister Eleanor Bien.

With this unusual German surname and a title to boot, we managed to find
only one other family so named in the U.S. and was also Jewish. Here's
what the research revealed:

Their ancestral origins were in the same city as ours, Rzeszow, formerly
Galicia and now Poland.
Their great uncle and our great uncle lived in the same New York City lower
east side tenement at exactly the same time and were listed in the NYC
directory.
One of their uncles was listed in the Manhattan law office of our father
in a NYCity directory for 1934.

Now, given all that information, what would you say the chances of two
Jewish families, each with the same surname that appears nowhere else in
the United States and coming >from the same place were not related? Slim
to none, right.?

Wrong! The resultant DNA tests between direct male descendants >from
each family line did not match on a single marker!

So much for a well founded hypothesis <grin> when the definitive test
says "nope.....despite all that you are not descended >from a common
ancestor! " In addition, they bear the cohain gene, we do not.

So form your hypotheses folks....it keeps you going and focused....but when
push comes to shove and you have not found a single birth record with a
common progenitor despite all the records that have turned up,
you need the final, definitive test to prove....or in this case to disprove.

We are still left with the mystery of how such an unusual surname came to
be in two Jewish families......but that's a matter of conjecture since
there are no records on a surname designation. I guess we can play with
that one for a long time to come.

Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods, CA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia with DNA it's yea or nay #galicia

carol skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

My sister and I have been involved in genealogy since 1995 and are blessed
with a highly unusual surname, FELDHERR, making the search incredibly
easy. It also enabled us to come forth with a hypothesis which could
only be proven by DNA testing <g>

Bear with me here....this may be as valuable a lesson to you as it has been
for me and my research right hand, my sister Eleanor Bien.

With this unusual German surname and a title to boot, we managed to find
only one other family so named in the U.S. and was also Jewish. Here's
what the research revealed:

Their ancestral origins were in the same city as ours, Rzeszow, formerly
Galicia and now Poland.
Their great uncle and our great uncle lived in the same New York City lower
east side tenement at exactly the same time and were listed in the NYC
directory.
One of their uncles was listed in the Manhattan law office of our father
in a NYCity directory for 1934.

Now, given all that information, what would you say the chances of two
Jewish families, each with the same surname that appears nowhere else in
the United States and coming >from the same place were not related? Slim
to none, right.?

Wrong! The resultant DNA tests between direct male descendants >from
each family line did not match on a single marker!

So much for a well founded hypothesis <grin> when the definitive test
says "nope.....despite all that you are not descended >from a common
ancestor! " In addition, they bear the cohain gene, we do not.

So form your hypotheses folks....it keeps you going and focused....but when
push comes to shove and you have not found a single birth record with a
common progenitor despite all the records that have turned up,
you need the final, definitive test to prove....or in this case to disprove.

We are still left with the mystery of how such an unusual surname came to
be in two Jewish families......but that's a matter of conjecture since
there are no records on a surname designation. I guess we can play with
that one for a long time to come.

Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods, CA


search for Scott FULLER and OSCHINSKYS. #general

alisa Barkatt <alisabarkatt@...>
 

Hello.
My name is Alisa Barkatt and I am looking for a certain Scott Fuller whose
mother was Thelma Oschinsky born after 1920.
Her brother was Dr. Lawrence Oschinsky born 1921 and died 1965. He was a
pyhsical anthropologist.He was born in New York to John & Lea
Oschinsky.Johns parents were Louis & Caroline Oschinsky >from Breslau today
Wroclaw.
I have much more info about that family going back to 1750!
If a Scott Fuller, or anybody who knows him ,can let him know and then write
to me I will be very thankful.
I live in Silver Spring Md and my e,mail address is
alisabarkatt@hotmail.com
I also posted my name in the search section of Oschinsk's >from Breslau &
Berlin.If anybody heard that name please also let me know.Thanks Alisa.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen search for Scott FULLER and OSCHINSKYS. #general

alisa Barkatt <alisabarkatt@...>
 

Hello.
My name is Alisa Barkatt and I am looking for a certain Scott Fuller whose
mother was Thelma Oschinsky born after 1920.
Her brother was Dr. Lawrence Oschinsky born 1921 and died 1965. He was a
pyhsical anthropologist.He was born in New York to John & Lea
Oschinsky.Johns parents were Louis & Caroline Oschinsky >from Breslau today
Wroclaw.
I have much more info about that family going back to 1750!
If a Scott Fuller, or anybody who knows him ,can let him know and then write
to me I will be very thankful.
I live in Silver Spring Md and my e,mail address is
alisabarkatt@hotmail.com
I also posted my name in the search section of Oschinsk's >from Breslau &
Berlin.If anybody heard that name please also let me know.Thanks Alisa.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately


Re: Looking for Teodoro SILVERMAN or SREBNIK #latinamerica

Sofía Marta Guifan <guifansm@...>
 

I think that you may be write at the president of Jewish genealogy
Asociation of Argentina and ask at the president Mr Paul Armony about this
families: the mail address es: genarg@infovia.com.ar
or enter in the site .......referring the family that lived in La Plata on
1970 I don't remember this lastnames, I lived in La Plata 70-73, a very
dangerous period here but you must write at the Macabi Club of La Plata,
you must to look for in google.com "Macabi" La Plata and you'l obtain the
mail address....I hope that this help you.......

Sophy Guifan
-


Latin America #LatinAmerica RE: Looking for Teodoro SILVERMAN or SREBNIK #latinamerica

Sofía Marta Guifan <guifansm@...>
 

I think that you may be write at the president of Jewish genealogy
Asociation of Argentina and ask at the president Mr Paul Armony about this
families: the mail address es: genarg@infovia.com.ar
or enter in the site .......referring the family that lived in La Plata on
1970 I don't remember this lastnames, I lived in La Plata 70-73, a very
dangerous period here but you must write at the Macabi Club of La Plata,
you must to look for in google.com "Macabi" La Plata and you'l obtain the
mail address....I hope that this help you.......

Sophy Guifan
-


Re: Looking for Teodoro SILVERMAN or SREBNIK #latinamerica

Bernie Hirsch <bernie06@...>
 

Thank you Marshall. But my Teodoro SILVERMAN/SREBNIK was not forced
to convert, as far as I am aware. He was simply an immigrant from
Vasilishki, Belarus (was Lithuania).

I'd also like to see if anyone might know why Teodoro chose to go to
Uruguay and then Argentina, yet all of his many brothers and sisters
went to Brooklyn. This seems strange, doesn't it? And over the
years, they kept in touch, and even met once in Brooklyn in 1959 (I
have a photo of this "reunion", so please email me if you would like a
copy which shows clearly what Teodoro (Teddy) looked like in 1959.

--Bernie


Latin America #LatinAmerica Re: Looking for Teodoro SILVERMAN or SREBNIK #latinamerica

Bernie Hirsch <bernie06@...>
 

Thank you Marshall. But my Teodoro SILVERMAN/SREBNIK was not forced
to convert, as far as I am aware. He was simply an immigrant from
Vasilishki, Belarus (was Lithuania).

I'd also like to see if anyone might know why Teodoro chose to go to
Uruguay and then Argentina, yet all of his many brothers and sisters
went to Brooklyn. This seems strange, doesn't it? And over the
years, they kept in touch, and even met once in Brooklyn in 1959 (I
have a photo of this "reunion", so please email me if you would like a
copy which shows clearly what Teodoro (Teddy) looked like in 1959.

--Bernie


Looking for Teodoro SILVERMAN or SREBNIK #latinamerica

Marshall Lopez <kp4bls@...>
 

Shalom to all,

Through the years I have been receiving e-mails of our
people searching for their family members lost in the
diaspora, specially in our case in Latin America.

I have a website in Spanish, that is designed to
support the B'nei Anusim, (children of the forced to
convert ones), that will be good to place letters like
this so it will increase the opportunity to find our
love ones.

Later on, we can promote and also include some letters
in our publication. So, please let us know if you
will be interested for us to proceed with it.

Toda raba,

Marshall Lopez
La Gaceta B'nei Anusim


Latin America #LatinAmerica Looking for Teodoro SILVERMAN or SREBNIK #latinamerica

Marshall Lopez <kp4bls@...>
 

Shalom to all,

Through the years I have been receiving e-mails of our
people searching for their family members lost in the
diaspora, specially in our case in Latin America.

I have a website in Spanish, that is designed to
support the B'nei Anusim, (children of the forced to
convert ones), that will be good to place letters like
this so it will increase the opportunity to find our
love ones.

Later on, we can promote and also include some letters
in our publication. So, please let us know if you
will be interested for us to proceed with it.

Toda raba,

Marshall Lopez
La Gaceta B'nei Anusim


Re: Can I have my Uncle take the DNA test for my research #dna

Kathy Keane <kkfish@...>
 

Hi Barbara: Thanks. That is another issue....after the test results are
in....then what! If you find the answer to that, let me know (And I will
do likewise)

Thanks again.

Kathy

MODERATOR NOTE: Perhaps a thorough reading of the FAQ associated with
Genealogy by Genetics would help. You'll find it at
http://www.familytreedna.com/faqjg.html


DNA Research #DNA Re: Can I have my Uncle take the DNA test for my research #dna

Kathy Keane <kkfish@...>
 

Hi Barbara: Thanks. That is another issue....after the test results are
in....then what! If you find the answer to that, let me know (And I will
do likewise)

Thanks again.

Kathy

MODERATOR NOTE: Perhaps a thorough reading of the FAQ associated with
Genealogy by Genetics would help. You'll find it at
http://www.familytreedna.com/faqjg.html


Radomsko Holocaust Death List #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I have now received a new and complete copy of the Radomsko Holocaust Death
List. This time, it is an original copy, printed on thick glossy paper.
For those interested, I have scanned this document (it lacks date,
publisher, or author) and I have put it here:

http://www4.wittenberg.edu/academics/music/kazez/rado-holo-new/

The names are organized by surname and then by family unit. This list comes
from my TELMAN-OFMAN cousin, a man who survived the Holocaust in Radomsko,
Poland. In all, there are over 2000 names, in 39 columns.

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI, BIDA
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JRI Poland #Poland Radomsko Holocaust Death List #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I have now received a new and complete copy of the Radomsko Holocaust Death
List. This time, it is an original copy, printed on thick glossy paper.
For those interested, I have scanned this document (it lacks date,
publisher, or author) and I have put it here:

http://www4.wittenberg.edu/academics/music/kazez/rado-holo-new/

The names are organized by surname and then by family unit. This list comes
from my TELMAN-OFMAN cousin, a man who survived the Holocaust in Radomsko,
Poland. In all, there are over 2000 names, in 39 columns.

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI, BIDA
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


How do you use the test results? #dna

Bernie Hirsch <bernie06@...>
 

Hi,

Just curious about this DNA test. What are the results that you get back? If
you're comparing with someone else, do you get a common ancestor name and what the
relationship is or how many generations back it goes? If you're just sending them
in the DNA test alone, do you get a list of people that you are connected to, or a
list of ancestors and names?

Has anyone been able to use any of the DNA results that they have received, to do
additional research on their family?

Thanks and kind regards,
Bernie Hirsch bernie06@sprynet.com Dallas, Texas


DNA Research #DNA How do you use the test results? #dna

Bernie Hirsch <bernie06@...>
 

Hi,

Just curious about this DNA test. What are the results that you get back? If
you're comparing with someone else, do you get a common ancestor name and what the
relationship is or how many generations back it goes? If you're just sending them
in the DNA test alone, do you get a list of people that you are connected to, or a
list of ancestors and names?

Has anyone been able to use any of the DNA results that they have received, to do
additional research on their family?

Thanks and kind regards,
Bernie Hirsch bernie06@sprynet.com Dallas, Texas