Re: Taking Photographs of Microfilm Reader Images at NYC Municipal Archives #photographs #general


Very simple.   Years ago, in my computer, I created a form that essentially mimics all of the information that is on B.C.'s, M.C.'s, & D.C.'s. With several copies of each form, I go to the archives and copy all of the data for which I am searching. When I get home, I then enter this data into the computer, and then print it out. If done in a formal manner, the printout looks pretty darn good.

Re: Song - Why don't they give a Yiddisher Boy a Chance? #unitedkingdom


Re: Online trees #general


I, too, have had trees online at Ancestry and My Heritage for many years and have had no problems. Yesterday, however, my problems began when I uploaded my tree to Within minutes, I noticed that someone I don't know, who is not a relative, was claiming that all my relatives were his relatives. It reached a point at which he was seeking to merge my family with his bogus family. I decided to close my account but couldn't fully do so because Geni required that I pass my tree along to someone else, in my case, a distant relative who has a tree on Geni. So now, I've closed my account and two people are managing it - one is a complete stranger and the other is a distant relative. 

New York, NY
BUKANTZ (Lithuania), JABLOW (Belarus), MAGEN (Ukraine), ZEIDMAN (Ukraine)

Srul Lederman and Etka Dawidowicz Naturalization papers #records #usa

tammy adler

I am looking for my grandparents naturalization papers. Srul Lederman and Etka Dawidowicz. Immigrated to USA in 1951.  Where do I look?

Tammy Adler

Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements

Stanley Levine

AND even if they did get raw data - so what! What could they do with it?

Re: Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same name as Uscher? #general


In my family for several generations there was always an OKER. I had an Uncle OKER, a great-uncle OKER and so on.  I have never found the name anywhere else and wonder whether there could be a connection with Uscher or Ojzer.  Any ideas are most welcome.

Martyn Woolf

BOF Khashchevatoye #ukraine #announcements #jgs-iajgs

yael polat

Khashchevatoye, Ukraine BOF Meeting at the IAJGS Virtual 2020 Conference

The Khashchevatoye, Ukraine BOF will meet virtually on Thursday, August 13, from 10 AM to 11 AM U.S. Eastern time. (7 AM to 8 AM US Pacific, 3 PM to 4 PM UK, 4 PM to 5 PM Western Europe, 5 PM to 6 PM Israel and Eastern Europe, Midnight to 1 AM next day Australia).

Please join us for a discussion of our active and future projects and to meet other Khashchevatoye descendents from all over the world! The meeting is open to all; you do not have to be a paid conference attendee to attend. However, whether or not you’ve paid for the conference, you do need to register to attend this and other “Free Access Sessions.” Please read more below.


Go to the Attendee Service Center on the conference website (, sign in, and select “Update Your Info.” Then click “Edit” and page through your registration until you reach the listing of free sessions. Select your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save them.


If you have not registered for the conference and want to have access to SIG and BOF meetings and other free events, go to and register for the Virtual Limited Access Conference. Select your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save them.

If you have already registered for limited free access but did not select the meetings you want to attend, please go back and edit your registration to include your choices. Follow through to the end of the registration to save them.

I look forward to seeing you at the Khashchevatoye, Ukraine BOF meeting.

For more information about the conference see  For registration questions/problems, contact registration@....

For information about the Khashchevatoye, Ukraine BOF, contact Yael Polat at polatnik@....


Re: C- Files - US Naturalization Index care - what info on it? #general

Moishe Miller

Are you familiar with the ordering process for a c-file? It seems you need to first request an "index search" and then a "record request". However, if I have the c-File and a-File numbers from the index available at Ancestry or FamilySearch, can I just order the c-file directly, skipping the "index search" and the fees associated with it?
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF# 3391

Re: Taking Photographs of Microfilm Reader Images at NYC Municipal Arc hives #usa #photographs

I have never seen anyone take a photo of a microfilm image (at any archive), but I think it is wise to take the NYC Municipal Archives at their word.  The records may be in the public domain, but the City of New York owns the images and is free to charge a fee.  If all you want is the information, you are free to take notes and not purchase a certified copy.  Or even better than that, find the information you seek on or  Both sites have been upgrading their NYC vital records indexes to include information previously only available from the original documents on microfilm at the NYC Municipal Archives.  
Good luck,
Karen Silver

Re: Naturalization Records for Samuel & Mary Babinski. #usa #records

Sherri Bobish

"Looking for naturalization records for Samuel & Mary Babinski.  Arrived in USA in 1908."

Start by searching at for nat records. 

If Samuel naturalized by 1922, and they were married by 1922, Mary would not have needed her own nat papers.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, N

Lipshitz family from Skokie-Chicago #usa

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with the family of Rabbi Dr. Abraham Lipshitz
(formerly Lippschütz), an educator, born in Lodz on May 5, 1922 and
died in 2017 (father of Ann and Rose) as well as his brother Charles
Lipshitz, also died in 2017 (father of Rabbi Leon Lipshitz and Deborah
Katz (mother of Yaakov Katz, an American-born Israeli journalist and
author and Editor-in-Chief of The Jerusalem Post since 2016 and three
other children).

Searching Serrero families from Salonica #sephardic

Rosine Nussenblatt

I am researching the Serrero families from Salonica.
Daniel Serrero  son of Joseph was married to Gracia Cohen born in 1858. His youngest sibling named Gabriel was born in 1869. I am looking for other Serreros who would have been born in the first half of the 19th century and whose father's name would have been Joseph. The Serrero families were relatively few in Salonica. They were mainly merchants.

Taking Photographs of Microfilm Reader Images at NYC Municipal Archives #photographs #general


As many of us know, the NYC Municipal Archives charges about $15 for a certified stamped copy of a birth, marriage or death certificate, even if you go down to their office and find it yourself on their microfilm. I just care about the information  and don't care about the certification. So taking a picture of the image on the microfilm reader screen would be fine for me. I called them and they said it was not allowed. Has anyone ever actually tried this in person? Any thoughts as to whether they can legally prohibit taking a picture of a public record?

Many thanks for your thoughts.

Jed Brickner

Re: Burial Society Washington Cemetery - Bnai Menasse or Menasche #usa

Alan Reische

Hi Sherry - you could be correct, viz. the lack of connection to a specific township in the records. Unfortunately, the current principal at Sinai Chapels doesn't have any history on the congregation, if that's what it was. The one hint I have on one of the headstones is a reference to Przesclaw, but there's nothing in the databanks that adds to that. I've never known of any Hungarian connection, all references are to Galicia or Austria. I can check the cemeteries where other branches are buried to see if there are any clues there.

On other records - I've been through everything I can identify, from census records and city directories down to draft registration cards, and nothing so far. They were pretty good at covering up their traces. Apparently, there was a lengthy questionnaire that was completed in connection with the WPA study. If/when I can get to those - not accessible on line - I may learn more.


Re: Silverman Family of Providence #usa


Selma Silverman of Providence, RI, 1914-2007, shows up in my family tree.  She is the daughter of Archibald Silverman, 1880-1966, who, I believe, was in the jewelry business.  If you have not already done so, check several family trees uploaded to Ancestry for Silvermans of Providence for possible connections

Aaron Rosenberg

Re: Searching: Pintwas Moszek SZER/ Lublin #poland

Sherri Bobish


A search for Berek SZER on Ancestry shows someone with that name in Berlin phone directories in the 1960's and 1970's.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Naturalization Records for Samuel & Mary Babinski. #usa #records


Looking for naturalization records for Samuel & Mary Babinski.  Arrived in USA in 1908.

Ancestry to be Acquired by Blackstone Group for $4.7 Billion #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen


Blackstone Group, the world’s largest alternative asset manager has acquired a 75% stake in for a deal valued at $4.7 billion.  Since 2016 Ancestry’s majority owners has been Singaporean wealth fund GIC Pte- they will retain 25% of


Silver Lake and GIC acquired their majority stake four years ago in a deal that valued the company at $2.6 billion. Prior owners, including management, Permira and Spectrum Equity, currently have a minority interest in the business. first went public in 2009, raising $100 million. It was taken private in 2012 in a $1.6 billion buyout led by private equity firm Permira, and on at least two occasions since has considered going public again, though it never got the valuation it was seeking. described Ancestry: “In addition to operating in more than 30 countries, having 3 million subscribers, and $1 billion in annual revenue, Ancestry has also built a market-leading consumer genomics business through its AncestryDNA service, which focused initially on ancestry and genealogy and more recently expanded into health. The company has to date genotyped 18 million people as part of the service.”


Ancestry’s CEO Margo Georgiadis said, said the deal with Blackstone would "further accelerate Ancestry's global leadership in family history and consumer genomics." She added that the acquisition would enable the Lehi, Utah-based company to "expand our global family history business while bringing to life our long-term vision of personalized preventive health."


At the time of this posting there is nothing on the Ancestry website, but there is on Blackstone’s which can be read at:




I have no relationship with Ancestry or Blackstone and am posting this solely for the information of the reader.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee



Re: Looking for descendants of Rose HAMMER and possibly Joseph BODNER #galicia #usa

Sherri Bobish


1930 census in The Bronx:
Joseph Bodner 30
Rose Bodner 28
Mildred Bodner 4
Melvin Bodner 2
Is this your family?


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Re: KATZOFF family-Brisk/Brest-litovsk, #russia #israel #latinamerica

Sherri Bobish


More on Mannie KATZOFF.

Mannie KATZOFF's 1922 passenger manifest (under name Menasze KACAF)
says nearest relative left behind in BL was Aunt Necha WEISBROT.

His passage was paid by HIAS.

He was bound for his brother Philip KATZHAFF in Brooklyn, NY.

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ