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UK records #general

Jon Mckay <Jon.Mckay@...>
 

I am at the very early stages of tracing my Jewish heritage, and know
nothing more than the fact that my grandfather came to the UK >from
Ukraine in 1917 and adopted the surname Marks. Can you suggest
where I might be able to find a record of the ports he may have left
from or sailed into, and possible ship names?
Jon McKay,
Portsmouth,
England


Re: Searching postings with GREP #general

Dick Plotz
 

Dave Sencer referred to a freeware program for Windows that allows one
to search for any string in any file. A similar program is available
for Macintosh, called TurboFind 2.2.1. It is shareware and can be
found using any standard search engine.

But there is one problem with this approach that is an inherent
disadvantage of listing a search in the JewishGen Discussion Group as
opposed to the JGFF or FTJP, and applies to the Archives search engine
as well as string searches on one's own computer. That is that these
methods require an exact spelling match.

Both the JGFF and FTJP permit searching by Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex.
While a Soundex match will often yield many irrelevant results,
scrolling through these results can lead one to gold amidst the straw.

As an example, Dave wrote that he had not found his own surname in
Discussion Group postings. A D-M Soundex search of the JGFF yields
591 hits. Wading through the hordes of Singers, one finds, in
addition to Dave's own listing, eleven other listings for plausible
versions of the name Sencer. One of them is even >from Hungary, like
Dave's family. Even if the person who posted this name in the JGFF
had also posted to the Discussion Group (she hasn't), there would be
no way to find her listing by searching for "Sencer".

Further, armed with this new possible spelling, a search of the FTJP
for the exact spelling yields two other researchers whose FTJP
submissions include persons with this name.

So while the Discussion Group certainly provides opportunities for
serendipitous discoveries that are not available in the other sources,
Dave Sencer's own example demonstrates the superiority of the JGFF and
FTJP for focused searches.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen UK records #general

Jon Mckay <Jon.Mckay@...>
 

I am at the very early stages of tracing my Jewish heritage, and know
nothing more than the fact that my grandfather came to the UK >from
Ukraine in 1917 and adopted the surname Marks. Can you suggest
where I might be able to find a record of the ports he may have left
from or sailed into, and possible ship names?
Jon McKay,
Portsmouth,
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching postings with GREP #general

Dick Plotz
 

Dave Sencer referred to a freeware program for Windows that allows one
to search for any string in any file. A similar program is available
for Macintosh, called TurboFind 2.2.1. It is shareware and can be
found using any standard search engine.

But there is one problem with this approach that is an inherent
disadvantage of listing a search in the JewishGen Discussion Group as
opposed to the JGFF or FTJP, and applies to the Archives search engine
as well as string searches on one's own computer. That is that these
methods require an exact spelling match.

Both the JGFF and FTJP permit searching by Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex.
While a Soundex match will often yield many irrelevant results,
scrolling through these results can lead one to gold amidst the straw.

As an example, Dave wrote that he had not found his own surname in
Discussion Group postings. A D-M Soundex search of the JGFF yields
591 hits. Wading through the hordes of Singers, one finds, in
addition to Dave's own listing, eleven other listings for plausible
versions of the name Sencer. One of them is even >from Hungary, like
Dave's family. Even if the person who posted this name in the JGFF
had also posted to the Discussion Group (she hasn't), there would be
no way to find her listing by searching for "Sencer".

Further, armed with this new possible spelling, a search of the FTJP
for the exact spelling yields two other researchers whose FTJP
submissions include persons with this name.

So while the Discussion Group certainly provides opportunities for
serendipitous discoveries that are not available in the other sources,
Dave Sencer's own example demonstrates the superiority of the JGFF and
FTJP for focused searches.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


Family searches through JGFF and postings #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/22/2002 9:24:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,
havival@bellsouth.net writes:

<< I am wondering about the lengthy posts that we see on the digest
regarding a hopeful search for a family. Names, places and dates are
listed, but this message lasts only one day. Have any genners been
successful in finding connections through this method? I don't remember
seeing any thank you's or success stories. The Jewish Gen Family Finder
would seem to be a more efficient way of accomplishing this search
>>
I've probably had a score of successful contacts through attention to
other people's message, or attention to my signature. Yes, the first
thing I did when I found Jewishgen was to search through JGFF, and found
two "cousins" (4th and 10th degree) who had listed my name BERNET and my
ancestral village Frensdorf and guided me to a chart that showed my
ancestry tto around 1650.

Every now and again I go back to JGFF to check on other names or
locations, and every now and again I'm contacted by others who have
noticed my JGFF inquiry or my postings. Most helpful of all, perhaps,
is my signature.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family searches through JGFF and postings #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/22/2002 9:24:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,
havival@bellsouth.net writes:

<< I am wondering about the lengthy posts that we see on the digest
regarding a hopeful search for a family. Names, places and dates are
listed, but this message lasts only one day. Have any genners been
successful in finding connections through this method? I don't remember
seeing any thank you's or success stories. The Jewish Gen Family Finder
would seem to be a more efficient way of accomplishing this search
>>
I've probably had a score of successful contacts through attention to
other people's message, or attention to my signature. Yes, the first
thing I did when I found Jewishgen was to search through JGFF, and found
two "cousins" (4th and 10th degree) who had listed my name BERNET and my
ancestral village Frensdorf and guided me to a chart that showed my
ancestry tto around 1650.

Every now and again I go back to JGFF to check on other names or
locations, and every now and again I'm contacted by others who have
noticed my JGFF inquiry or my postings. Most helpful of all, perhaps,
is my signature.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


TOBY / TREVES / CAPUA #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

I am searching for the birth og Ribca Toby daughter of Jeuda Toby and
Deboroah Treves Ribca married Emanuel Capua in London 13th July 1765 and
she died in 1788

Eileen Bird
England


New Tetiev/Ukraine ShtetLink #general

Irwin B. Margiloff <Margiloff@...>
 

A new ShtetLink devoted to Tetiev, a shtetl in the Ukraine, is now up and
running. Many have contributed to it by supplying materials, comments,
photos, and, not least, great encouragement. In particular I would like
to thank Jacki Zaslow, Stephen Roth, Adelle Gloger, Terry Lasky and Gerson
Kaplan for their generous help.

Tetiev is about 70 miles south-southwest of Kiev. Belaya Tserkov, a larger
town, is about halfway up the road to Kiev.

Tetiev is perhaps most noted as the scene of a massacre in 1920 that left
about 5,000 dead. The site contains extensive information about this.
We think there's lots more to put together, including the history of
Tetiever emigrant organizations, death and survivor lists, photographs and
other information that should be useful to genealogists and writers of
local and family histories. We have a section that lists Projects
completed and future work.

The site can be accessed by clicking

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/tetiev/tetiev.htm
Please visit and send along your comments and suggestions.

Irwin Margiloff
Duarte, California


TORRES / VALENTINE / DaSaaSILVEIRA #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

I am looking for the birth of Esther TORRES about 1735 daughter of
Abraham TORRES she married Daniel Da Saa Silveira son of Raphael and
Judica Valentine in London england March 1755

Eileen Bird
England


CAPUA / TOBI #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

Looking for the Birth EmanuelCAPUA born about 1736 he married Ribca
TOBI/TOBY in 1765 in London England

Eileen Bird
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TOBY / TREVES / CAPUA #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

I am searching for the birth og Ribca Toby daughter of Jeuda Toby and
Deboroah Treves Ribca married Emanuel Capua in London 13th July 1765 and
she died in 1788

Eileen Bird
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Tetiev/Ukraine ShtetLink #general

Irwin B. Margiloff <Margiloff@...>
 

A new ShtetLink devoted to Tetiev, a shtetl in the Ukraine, is now up and
running. Many have contributed to it by supplying materials, comments,
photos, and, not least, great encouragement. In particular I would like
to thank Jacki Zaslow, Stephen Roth, Adelle Gloger, Terry Lasky and Gerson
Kaplan for their generous help.

Tetiev is about 70 miles south-southwest of Kiev. Belaya Tserkov, a larger
town, is about halfway up the road to Kiev.

Tetiev is perhaps most noted as the scene of a massacre in 1920 that left
about 5,000 dead. The site contains extensive information about this.
We think there's lots more to put together, including the history of
Tetiever emigrant organizations, death and survivor lists, photographs and
other information that should be useful to genealogists and writers of
local and family histories. We have a section that lists Projects
completed and future work.

The site can be accessed by clicking

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/tetiev/tetiev.htm
Please visit and send along your comments and suggestions.

Irwin Margiloff
Duarte, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TORRES / VALENTINE / DaSaaSILVEIRA #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

I am looking for the birth of Esther TORRES about 1735 daughter of
Abraham TORRES she married Daniel Da Saa Silveira son of Raphael and
Judica Valentine in London england March 1755

Eileen Bird
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen CAPUA / TOBI #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

Looking for the Birth EmanuelCAPUA born about 1736 he married Ribca
TOBI/TOBY in 1765 in London England

Eileen Bird
England


Mary Ann SMITH , New York, NY #general

mikehanna@...
 

mikehanna@juno.com
Valparaiso, Indiana

February 22, 2002


I am seeking any information on Mary Ann Smith, Born in Chicago, Illinois
at Cook County Hospital on June 23, 1937. She lived in Chicago at the
Douglas Park Day and Night Nursery. Around 1955, she moved to Los
Angles,CA. The last record of her residence was in November of 1959 in
the city of New York.

I don't know if she ever married.

Michael (Smith) Kassner
mikehanna@juno.com


Researching: FROMFERT, Rachel >from Russia
CHYENKUS ,Anna >from Russia\Boston
SMITH, Charles >from Russia\Boston\Ottumwa,Iowa,St.Paul and Chicago
SMITH's >from St.Paul,Herman,Harold(Harry),Bernetta,Bessie,and Mae 1928-1932
SMITH's >from Chicago, Harold(Harry) and Marie 1935-1941
SMITH >from Chicago, Mary Ann Smith 1937-1955

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mary Ann SMITH , New York, NY #general

mikehanna@...
 

mikehanna@juno.com
Valparaiso, Indiana

February 22, 2002


I am seeking any information on Mary Ann Smith, Born in Chicago, Illinois
at Cook County Hospital on June 23, 1937. She lived in Chicago at the
Douglas Park Day and Night Nursery. Around 1955, she moved to Los
Angles,CA. The last record of her residence was in November of 1959 in
the city of New York.

I don't know if she ever married.

Michael (Smith) Kassner
mikehanna@juno.com


Researching: FROMFERT, Rachel >from Russia
CHYENKUS ,Anna >from Russia\Boston
SMITH, Charles >from Russia\Boston\Ottumwa,Iowa,St.Paul and Chicago
SMITH's >from St.Paul,Herman,Harold(Harry),Bernetta,Bessie,and Mae 1928-1932
SMITH's >from Chicago, Harold(Harry) and Marie 1935-1941
SMITH >from Chicago, Mary Ann Smith 1937-1955

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Searching postings with GREP #general

David Sencer <djud2@...>
 

Michael Bernet commented that he had many contacts as a result of his
signature.

Signatures are dependent upon persons reading the letter. If the subject
doesn't catch my fancy I don't read all the mail. However, I have a small
freeware program that searches for strings within files, Windows GREP. I
save the mail >from the JGDiscussion Group and other listserves to which I
subscribe for several days in a folder and then search. It picks up any
string of letters in which you are interested. I routinely search for my
surname (with no results unfortunately), places of residence, my wife's
maiden name, etc.

The program is downloadable >from http://www.wingrep.com/download.html


David J. Sencer,
Atlanta, GA
"mailto:djud@mindspring.com"


Etie Jides=Judith?? #general

Debbie Raff <seraff@...>
 

Let me preface this post by saying that I know that any name can equal
any name. I am in the process of ordering some of the JRI-Poland records,
and am trying to make some educated choices, if possible.

My great grandfather's NY death certificate states that his parents' names
were Hirsch and Judith. Neither Hirsch nor Judith would have emigrated
from Ukraine. I have located some birth records for the children of a
Hirsch/Hersz and E.Ite/Etie Jides/Etie Jud. (the records use various
spellings). So, for those of you in the know, is it highly plausible that
E.Ite/Etie Jides/Etie Jud. could correspond with Judith?

As always, your thoughts on this are welcomed.
Debbie Raff;-)
Researching: HERBACH / BIRNBAUM (Nowy Sacz, Poland and Hungary (now
Slovakia) RAFF / MEISNER / SICHERMAN / KATZ (Poland) LAWNER / KORNFELD /
GERMAN / WEITMAN (Ukraine)


Living Words: Voices of the Holocaust #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

The single phrase below is the copyright notice to be used when reproducing
any portion of this report, in any format.
>from The Scout Report, Copyright Internet Scout Project 1994-2002.
http://scout.cs.wisc.edu/


7. Living Words: Voices of the Holocaust
http://www.education.bl.uk/new/index.html
Presented by the British Library, Voices of the Holocaust consists of
personal, oral testimonies gathered >from Jewish men and women who came to
reside in Britain. These testimonies are true stories told by Holocaust
survivors that depict life during this horrifyingly tumultuous time. The
testimonies are divided into six main categories -- life before the
Holocaust, ghettos and deportations, the camps, resistance, liberation, and
testimonies by Edith Berkin. For scholars, researchers, historians, and
those interested in the Holocaust, this site serves as a compliment to the
sixteen-volume set of typescripts of 70 interviews of Holocaust survivors
conducted in 1946 by the Illinois Institute of Technology (mentioned in the
September 1, 2000 _Scout Report_). Transcripts may be read or played using
RealPlayer. [MG]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching postings with GREP #general

David Sencer <djud2@...>
 

Michael Bernet commented that he had many contacts as a result of his
signature.

Signatures are dependent upon persons reading the letter. If the subject
doesn't catch my fancy I don't read all the mail. However, I have a small
freeware program that searches for strings within files, Windows GREP. I
save the mail >from the JGDiscussion Group and other listserves to which I
subscribe for several days in a folder and then search. It picks up any
string of letters in which you are interested. I routinely search for my
surname (with no results unfortunately), places of residence, my wife's
maiden name, etc.

The program is downloadable >from http://www.wingrep.com/download.html


David J. Sencer,
Atlanta, GA
"mailto:djud@mindspring.com"