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Re: Koszeben ? #hungary

Janos Barat <janos@...>
 

Hello,
The town in Hungary must be Köszeg (Koeszeg).
This is an answer of somebody's question where did you live? or where do you
live? - the answer is Koszegben.
To a foreign ear it is 'Koszebe'n.

----- Original Message -----
From: <BORMANJL@aol.com>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: Koszeben ?


Hello,
I have found a possible relative on the EIDB, Rezi ENGEL. Her place of
residence was Koszeben, ethnicity Hebrew, Hungarian. I cannot find Koszeben.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Julie Maltz Borman
Los Angeles, CA

Moderator VK; I suspect that you're looking for Kis-Szeben (now Sabinov,
Slovakia) in Saros megye, about 16 km northwest of Presov (formerly
Eperjes). My father's oldest sister Blanka NEUMANN was born there as were
his cousins Iren and Aliz MOSKOVITS, daughters of my great-uncle Gyula
MOSKOVITS and his wife Terezia KLEIN.


Do you know William JOACHIM or William HELFGOTT? #general

EDENSARA@...
 

Dear Genners,

In the late 1940's or early 1950's, my cousin Stanely JOACHIM, son of
William (deceased 1927) and Selma PASKOFF of Brooklyn, NY, married a woman
named Ethel. They were unable to have children of their own and adopted a
boy whom they named William, after his grandfather. Stanley and Ethel
divorced within a short time, and Stanley died not too much later.

William, the son, was taken out of the area by his mother and my family
didn't see him for many years. Sometime in the late 1960's or early
1970's, my grandmother "discovered" William, living in the NY Metropolitan
area, possibly Bergen County, NJ.
She was able to reunite William with his grandmother Selma PASKOFF
JOACHIM, and her second husband, William (Bill) HELFGOTT.

There is a possibility that William today uses either JOACHIM or HELFGOTT
as his surname. If you know this William, please contact me.

Thanks for your help,
Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York

EDENSARA@aol.com

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LEVY Surname #general

Jeff T. Severson <JEFFTS@...>
 

Hi all,
My grandfather had a few relatives with the surname Levy. His cousin's
nickname was "Manny" but his real name was possibly Emanual. He married a
woman by the name of Thelma who was probably born between 1915 - 1925.
They had two children by the name of Warren and Alan. I believe the
family lived in Long Island, NY. If anyone has any information on these
people, please contact me.

Thanks,

Jeff T. Severson
Ulster Park, NY
http://www.rosenthal-severson.com

ROSENTHAL (Manhattan, NY, Brooklyn NY, Ulster Park NY, Kingston NY, Poland)
FELLERMAN (Chicago, IL, NYC, Miedzyrzec Podlaski)
SIMON (Poland, Russia)

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Headstone Translation Help Please #general

Bobby Furst <bobby1st@...>
 

Could someone please translate the Hebrew on any of the 6 headstones
that are posted at:

http://vranov.sk/cemetery/

Thank you.

Bobby Furst
bobby1st@sprynet.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Koszeben ? #hungary

Janos Barat <janos@...>
 

Hello,
The town in Hungary must be Köszeg (Koeszeg).
This is an answer of somebody's question where did you live? or where do you
live? - the answer is Koszegben.
To a foreign ear it is 'Koszebe'n.

----- Original Message -----
From: <BORMANJL@aol.com>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: Koszeben ?


Hello,
I have found a possible relative on the EIDB, Rezi ENGEL. Her place of
residence was Koszeben, ethnicity Hebrew, Hungarian. I cannot find Koszeben.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Julie Maltz Borman
Los Angeles, CA

Moderator VK; I suspect that you're looking for Kis-Szeben (now Sabinov,
Slovakia) in Saros megye, about 16 km northwest of Presov (formerly
Eperjes). My father's oldest sister Blanka NEUMANN was born there as were
his cousins Iren and Aliz MOSKOVITS, daughters of my great-uncle Gyula
MOSKOVITS and his wife Terezia KLEIN.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do you know William JOACHIM or William HELFGOTT? #general

EDENSARA@...
 

Dear Genners,

In the late 1940's or early 1950's, my cousin Stanely JOACHIM, son of
William (deceased 1927) and Selma PASKOFF of Brooklyn, NY, married a woman
named Ethel. They were unable to have children of their own and adopted a
boy whom they named William, after his grandfather. Stanley and Ethel
divorced within a short time, and Stanley died not too much later.

William, the son, was taken out of the area by his mother and my family
didn't see him for many years. Sometime in the late 1960's or early
1970's, my grandmother "discovered" William, living in the NY Metropolitan
area, possibly Bergen County, NJ.
She was able to reunite William with his grandmother Selma PASKOFF
JOACHIM, and her second husband, William (Bill) HELFGOTT.

There is a possibility that William today uses either JOACHIM or HELFGOTT
as his surname. If you know this William, please contact me.

Thanks for your help,
Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York

EDENSARA@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Personal information should be sent privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LEVY Surname #general

Jeff T. Severson <JEFFTS@...>
 

Hi all,
My grandfather had a few relatives with the surname Levy. His cousin's
nickname was "Manny" but his real name was possibly Emanual. He married a
woman by the name of Thelma who was probably born between 1915 - 1925.
They had two children by the name of Warren and Alan. I believe the
family lived in Long Island, NY. If anyone has any information on these
people, please contact me.

Thanks,

Jeff T. Severson
Ulster Park, NY
http://www.rosenthal-severson.com

ROSENTHAL (Manhattan, NY, Brooklyn NY, Ulster Park NY, Kingston NY, Poland)
FELLERMAN (Chicago, IL, NYC, Miedzyrzec Podlaski)
SIMON (Poland, Russia)

MODERATOR NOTE: Personal information should be sent privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Headstone Translation Help Please #general

Bobby Furst <bobby1st@...>
 

Could someone please translate the Hebrew on any of the 6 headstones
that are posted at:

http://vranov.sk/cemetery/

Thank you.

Bobby Furst
bobby1st@sprynet.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Re: etymology of Attila #hungary

Janos Barat <janos@...>
 

Dear sigers,
I learned in school in Hungary (1940-1952) that the burial place of Attila
is not a historically established fact.There were legends, as for instance
the legend of his son prince Csaba going to the sky and promising to come
back in times of need, etc.

I am looking to find my ggparents >from the family 'DOCTOR'. The medical
profession runs through the family - but I found no trace of them except my
grandafhers brother Karoly (Charles) DOCTOR who lived in Budapest in the
early 1900's.

Does anybody have a clue?

Best regards,

Janos Barat (janos@jbarat.demon.co.uk)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gábor Hirsch" <hirsch@cyberlink.ch>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: etymology of Attila

<snip>


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: etymology of Attila #hungary

Janos Barat <janos@...>
 

Dear sigers,
I learned in school in Hungary (1940-1952) that the burial place of Attila
is not a historically established fact.There were legends, as for instance
the legend of his son prince Csaba going to the sky and promising to come
back in times of need, etc.

I am looking to find my ggparents >from the family 'DOCTOR'. The medical
profession runs through the family - but I found no trace of them except my
grandafhers brother Karoly (Charles) DOCTOR who lived in Budapest in the
early 1900's.

Does anybody have a clue?

Best regards,

Janos Barat (janos@jbarat.demon.co.uk)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gábor Hirsch" <hirsch@cyberlink.ch>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: etymology of Attila

<snip>


Re: Maps of Austria-Hungary #hungary

Janos Barat <janos@...>
 

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Dear sigers,

The map of Austris-Hungary is on the web under the name of
www.hungarianvillagefinder.com/

Kind regards,

Janos Barat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Friedman" <inwood@pipeline.com>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:07 PM
Subject: Maps of Austria-Hungary


On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:02:16 -0800, "Kate & Henry Haas"
<henkat@harbornet.com> wrote:

I am interested to know if anyone might know where one might obtain a map
of
the various counties existing in the Austro-Hungarian Empire between 1840
and 1900.
For anyone with a generic question like this, I would like to suggest
the following resource:

SIG Lists Message Archives
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop

Over the years, many of the same questions have come up and answers
have been provided. Using the message archives, you can often find
the information you want quickly, without waiting to see if someone on
the list will respond.

In this particular case, performing a search on "gazetteer" or "maps"
and selecting "Hungary" SIG will provide a variety of useful advice.
For example, the following info was posted last April & May:

H-SIG Map Links Page
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/links_maps.htm

Radix
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/index.shtml
Has 1882 gazetteer of Hungary - list of settlements by counties;
Demographic and social maps of Hungary, 1900; Hungarian place locator;
Scanned maps; Hungary's county map as of 1876

Printed Gazeteer
Lelkes, Gyorgy. Magyar Helyse'gne'v-Azonosito' Szo'ta'r [Dictionary
of Hungarian Locations]. Baja: Talma Konyvkiado, 1998.

Talma Publishers also have on their (English-language!) web site
http://www.talmamedia.com/geneal/go.htm
a set of 1913 county maps which include district boundaries, district
seats, cities, and larger towns. These are the same maps that are
printed at the back of the gazetteer.

The site also appears to have several high-quality modern maps for
sale (multi-lingual 1:500K Transylvania; bilingual 1:250K
Transcarpathia & 1:360K Slovakia; bilingual 1:250K road atlas of
Romania).

The site mentioned by Peter Hidas,
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm
has also been posted to H-SIG several times in response to similar
questions.

Bob Friedman, NYC
inwood@pipeline.com

Moderator VK: Please keep this list of map sites for future reference.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Maps of Austria-Hungary #hungary

Janos Barat <janos@...>
 

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Dear sigers,

The map of Austris-Hungary is on the web under the name of
www.hungarianvillagefinder.com/

Kind regards,

Janos Barat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Friedman" <inwood@pipeline.com>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:07 PM
Subject: Maps of Austria-Hungary


On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:02:16 -0800, "Kate & Henry Haas"
<henkat@harbornet.com> wrote:

I am interested to know if anyone might know where one might obtain a map
of
the various counties existing in the Austro-Hungarian Empire between 1840
and 1900.
For anyone with a generic question like this, I would like to suggest
the following resource:

SIG Lists Message Archives
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop

Over the years, many of the same questions have come up and answers
have been provided. Using the message archives, you can often find
the information you want quickly, without waiting to see if someone on
the list will respond.

In this particular case, performing a search on "gazetteer" or "maps"
and selecting "Hungary" SIG will provide a variety of useful advice.
For example, the following info was posted last April & May:

H-SIG Map Links Page
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/links_maps.htm

Radix
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/index.shtml
Has 1882 gazetteer of Hungary - list of settlements by counties;
Demographic and social maps of Hungary, 1900; Hungarian place locator;
Scanned maps; Hungary's county map as of 1876

Printed Gazeteer
Lelkes, Gyorgy. Magyar Helyse'gne'v-Azonosito' Szo'ta'r [Dictionary
of Hungarian Locations]. Baja: Talma Konyvkiado, 1998.

Talma Publishers also have on their (English-language!) web site
http://www.talmamedia.com/geneal/go.htm
a set of 1913 county maps which include district boundaries, district
seats, cities, and larger towns. These are the same maps that are
printed at the back of the gazetteer.

The site also appears to have several high-quality modern maps for
sale (multi-lingual 1:500K Transylvania; bilingual 1:250K
Transcarpathia & 1:360K Slovakia; bilingual 1:250K road atlas of
Romania).

The site mentioned by Peter Hidas,
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm
has also been posted to H-SIG several times in response to similar
questions.

Bob Friedman, NYC
inwood@pipeline.com

Moderator VK: Please keep this list of map sites for future reference.


Re: Names #belarus

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

on 2/21/02 11:19 PM, George Farkas at gfarkas@xbrlpower.com wrote:

The two that I can think of immediately are 1908 and 1911, but if I check
through the data base, I believe I will find some both earlier and later.

George Farkas
Montreal

Exactly! This kind of proves my observation (not too scientific, I must
admit) about names before and after the First World War. Aristocratic and
allegedly ancient Magyar names were out of vogue after the White Terror year
and the pogroms of the war years.

Peter


At 09:13 AM 21/02/2002 -0500, Peter I. Hidas wrote:


My FARKAS family was Orthodox and observant and included Haredim and yet we
have the names Arpad and Zoltan in the family.
When were they born?



Peter I. Hidas
Peter I. Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
http://www.community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Names #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

on 2/21/02 11:19 PM, George Farkas at gfarkas@xbrlpower.com wrote:

The two that I can think of immediately are 1908 and 1911, but if I check
through the data base, I believe I will find some both earlier and later.

George Farkas
Montreal

Exactly! This kind of proves my observation (not too scientific, I must
admit) about names before and after the First World War. Aristocratic and
allegedly ancient Magyar names were out of vogue after the White Terror year
and the pogroms of the war years.

Peter


At 09:13 AM 21/02/2002 -0500, Peter I. Hidas wrote:


My FARKAS family was Orthodox and observant and included Haredim and yet we
have the names Arpad and Zoltan in the family.
When were they born?



Peter I. Hidas
Peter I. Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
http://www.community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas


Do you know Audrey MORRIS? #general

EDENSARA@...
 

Dear Genners,

My cousin Audrey MORRIS was born in the Bronx, NY, July 28, 1922, to
Herman MORRIS and Elizabeth HANSELMAN / HAUSELMAN. She had older brothers
Charles, an attorney with NYS in Albany, and Clifford.

The last time anyone >from my family saw her was in the mid to late 1940's,
at which time she was working at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in
Washington Heights, NYC. She told my grandmother she was either a social
worker or psychologist, as was her "new" husband, Mr. PETTIT (or similar
spelling).

Do any of you know this woman, or have any ideas for me to explore?

Many thanks,
Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York

EDENSARA@aol.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do you know Audrey MORRIS? #general

EDENSARA@...
 

Dear Genners,

My cousin Audrey MORRIS was born in the Bronx, NY, July 28, 1922, to
Herman MORRIS and Elizabeth HANSELMAN / HAUSELMAN. She had older brothers
Charles, an attorney with NYS in Albany, and Clifford.

The last time anyone >from my family saw her was in the mid to late 1940's,
at which time she was working at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in
Washington Heights, NYC. She told my grandmother she was either a social
worker or psychologist, as was her "new" husband, Mr. PETTIT (or similar
spelling).

Do any of you know this woman, or have any ideas for me to explore?

Many thanks,
Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York

EDENSARA@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Personal information should be sent privately.


Re: Search for Fela and Frania BERLINER #lodz #poland

MADELPUECH <madelpuech.gilbert@...>
 

Hello!--I am Evelyne MADELPUECH

I have seen on the french"minitel" : i have found some BERLINER who are
living in PARIS in france

[MODERATOR NOTE: Names, addresses, and telephone numbers were omitted due
to privacy concerns. Please contact Evelyne for further information.]

and others but younger(surnames )

I Look : Chil izak INFELD(cousin of my maternal grand mother Ruda Mindla
INFELD wife LECZKOVSKI ) son of Borucha Josifa INFELD,born in Lodz
6/09/1920 and his wife :Ruchla ,daughter of Jankiel and Riwka INFELD born in
1919 and their son: Aleksy INFELD born in USSR in 1944.There are survived in
1946 in LODZ.Where are they?

Good luck!
evelyne MADELPUECH


Original Message -----
From: "John & Diana Terry" <jterry@picknowl.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 12:06 AM

Dear Group

I have recently found that two of my Cousins survived the Holocaust.

They were interned in the Lodz Ghetto, along with their Parents Jakub and
Brandla (FRYDMAN) BERLINER.

The Women were or maybe still are....Fela BERLINER BD 25.1.1925 and her
older Sister Frania BD 1921. The last know address for Fela was a
Sanatorium for Displaced Persons in Paris, France, in 1947.

Jakub was my Great Uncle and born in Warsaw, Poland. Brandla was, I
believe
born in Lodz as were their Children, Fela, Frania, Renee and Szymon who
died
in the Warsaw Ghetto >from pneumonia in 1941.

Jakub had many Siblings, one being my Grandfather Solomon Berliner, also,
Pinkus, Calel, a Sister Roza who married Schimon WECHLSER their Children
were Terryk, Pinkus and Ewa.


If anyone knows of any Descendants of Fela and her Sister Frania BERLINER
who might have married and therefore they would be know by another
surname,
please could you contact me privately on jterry@picknowl.com.au


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: Search for Fela and Frania BERLINER #lodz #poland

MADELPUECH <madelpuech.gilbert@...>
 

Hello!--I am Evelyne MADELPUECH

I have seen on the french"minitel" : i have found some BERLINER who are
living in PARIS in france

[MODERATOR NOTE: Names, addresses, and telephone numbers were omitted due
to privacy concerns. Please contact Evelyne for further information.]

and others but younger(surnames )

I Look : Chil izak INFELD(cousin of my maternal grand mother Ruda Mindla
INFELD wife LECZKOVSKI ) son of Borucha Josifa INFELD,born in Lodz
6/09/1920 and his wife :Ruchla ,daughter of Jankiel and Riwka INFELD born in
1919 and their son: Aleksy INFELD born in USSR in 1944.There are survived in
1946 in LODZ.Where are they?

Good luck!
evelyne MADELPUECH


Original Message -----
From: "John & Diana Terry" <jterry@picknowl.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 12:06 AM

Dear Group

I have recently found that two of my Cousins survived the Holocaust.

They were interned in the Lodz Ghetto, along with their Parents Jakub and
Brandla (FRYDMAN) BERLINER.

The Women were or maybe still are....Fela BERLINER BD 25.1.1925 and her
older Sister Frania BD 1921. The last know address for Fela was a
Sanatorium for Displaced Persons in Paris, France, in 1947.

Jakub was my Great Uncle and born in Warsaw, Poland. Brandla was, I
believe
born in Lodz as were their Children, Fela, Frania, Renee and Szymon who
died
in the Warsaw Ghetto >from pneumonia in 1941.

Jakub had many Siblings, one being my Grandfather Solomon Berliner, also,
Pinkus, Calel, a Sister Roza who married Schimon WECHLSER their Children
were Terryk, Pinkus and Ewa.


If anyone knows of any Descendants of Fela and her Sister Frania BERLINER
who might have married and therefore they would be know by another
surname,
please could you contact me privately on jterry@picknowl.com.au


the Memorial Book for the Victims and Survivors of Theresienstadt #general

Lisa Peritz <lperitz@...>
 

Does anyone know of these Peritz names >from wwII or have any way for me
to find out more about them?
Berlin: Adele and Hermann Peritz (great-grandparents). Auschwitz
Hamburg: Eduard Peritz (uncle)? Theresenstadt - survivor

This information came >from a very kind gentlemen >from this site who
mailed me the transcripts where I found more information. I need to
find more threads to put this together. Please help if you can.

He wrote the foll. response to me.
the Memorial Book for the Victims and Survivors of Theresienstadt
partially confirms your information:

PERITZ Alfred
born 18 Jan 1896
deported >from Hamburg to Theresienstadt with transport VI/10, arrival
date 23 Feb 1945 (!!!)
(did they not have anything else to do in Hamburg in 1945 ...?)
liberated in Theresienstadt
(which is called Terezín now and is in the Czech Republic,
i.e. he was liberated not in Poland but what became then
Czechoslovakia)

On the same transport there is also a listing for

PERITZ Eduard
born 11 Feb 1903
who was also liberated in Theresienstadt

There are also six entries for PERITZ for deportations from
Berlin: Adele, Frieda, Hermann, Hulda, Isidor, Johanna. Let
me know whether you are related to any of them.
Also note that the second gtiven name "Israel" you mention
was not his real given name but forced unto him by the nazi
laws.


MICHTOM and HOROWITZ #general

David Harris <dharris1@...>
 

Dear Members-
Supposedly, a cousin of mine, Elliott HOROWITZ, was said to have married
the granddaughter of Morris and Rose MICHTOM, the makers of the original
Teddy Bear. The Michtom family were involved many years with the Ideal Toy Co.

I'm trying to confirm or deny this family tale and would also like to make
contact with the family of Elliott or his siblings Russell and Florence,
the children of David and Anna HOROWITZ of Queens, NY.

Please email your leads and suggestions privately.
Thank you.
Sara Harris
Silver Spring, MD
dharris1@erols.com