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Help with a sign written in Lithuanian #lithuania

Jose Gutstein <JMG-Miami@...>
 

Please, I need some help with a small business sign in Lithuanian, taken in
1931, which I have posted temporarily on my Radzilow, Poland web page:

http://www.radzilow.com/kalvarija-sign.htm

What does the sign say?

The name is clearly Dawid Zdrojewicz, but spelled in Lithuanian. He married
in Szczuczyn, Poland (northeastern part of Poland, near Radzilow) but for
some reason he either opened up a branch of the same business in Kalvarija,
Lithuania or he moved there. This photo, along with other Kalvarija photos,
ended up in my relative's mother's collection, mixed in with the Szczuczyn
ones. The only way I was able to connect Kalvarija to Szczuczyn is because
the name of Dawid Zdrojewicz is clearly written in the sign. Plus, the car
in the photo indicates it was the same business his father-in-law maintained in Szczuczyn before emigrating to America, and which Dawid took over when he did so. Though Noach Zimnowicz left Szczuczyn in 1912, he is listed in the 1929 Business Directory as still owning the business. I can only assume that Dawid, married to Noach's daughter, took over and maintained it.

A second question:

There appear to be 3 Kalvarija's in Lithuania.
- One is just 4 miles NNW of Vilnius
- One is 86 miles WSW of Vilnius (and therefore closer to Poland)
- The last one is 163 miles NW of Vilnius (and therefore the least likely
candidate)

The other photos >from this "Kalvarija" show persons extremely well-dressed,
right out of 1930's NY or Chicago, everyone in the latest modern fashions.

Is anyone familiar with either of the first two Kalvarija's and whether the
photo fits the "locale"?

Thank you,

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond to the translation question privately. Any thoughts about the various Kalvarijas that might be of general interest may be posted to the list.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Help with a sign written in Lithuanian #lithuania

Jose Gutstein <JMG-Miami@...>
 

Please, I need some help with a small business sign in Lithuanian, taken in
1931, which I have posted temporarily on my Radzilow, Poland web page:

http://www.radzilow.com/kalvarija-sign.htm

What does the sign say?

The name is clearly Dawid Zdrojewicz, but spelled in Lithuanian. He married
in Szczuczyn, Poland (northeastern part of Poland, near Radzilow) but for
some reason he either opened up a branch of the same business in Kalvarija,
Lithuania or he moved there. This photo, along with other Kalvarija photos,
ended up in my relative's mother's collection, mixed in with the Szczuczyn
ones. The only way I was able to connect Kalvarija to Szczuczyn is because
the name of Dawid Zdrojewicz is clearly written in the sign. Plus, the car
in the photo indicates it was the same business his father-in-law maintained in Szczuczyn before emigrating to America, and which Dawid took over when he did so. Though Noach Zimnowicz left Szczuczyn in 1912, he is listed in the 1929 Business Directory as still owning the business. I can only assume that Dawid, married to Noach's daughter, took over and maintained it.

A second question:

There appear to be 3 Kalvarija's in Lithuania.
- One is just 4 miles NNW of Vilnius
- One is 86 miles WSW of Vilnius (and therefore closer to Poland)
- The last one is 163 miles NW of Vilnius (and therefore the least likely
candidate)

The other photos >from this "Kalvarija" show persons extremely well-dressed,
right out of 1930's NY or Chicago, everyone in the latest modern fashions.

Is anyone familiar with either of the first two Kalvarija's and whether the
photo fits the "locale"?

Thank you,

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond to the translation question privately. Any thoughts about the various Kalvarijas that might be of general interest may be posted to the list.


Re: Payments to Boleslaw Szenicer #poland #warsaw

asleuth@...
 

I have had dealings with this man and several people I know have as well. I sent him an international money order to his P.O. Box. He replys promptly, in English and he has already sent me a list of names >from the cemetery and is in the process of making the photographs for me of the gravestones I requested. The $20.00 US is per gravestone and item of information he finds related to that gravestone because he does all the research himself and on his own time.

Anita Drexler
Hallandale, Florida


From: Howard Orenstein <horenstn@wmdc.edu>
Date: 2002/02/16 Sat PM 11:04:45 EST
To: "Warszawa Research Group" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [warszawa] Payments to Boleslaw Szenicer

*** You hold the keys to unlock the potential ***
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/page_01.html




*** Encylopedia of Jewish Life - available for shipping***
WORLDWIDE
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



In a letter >from Boleslaw Szenicer, Director of the Jewish Cemetery of
Warsaw, he states that his fee for making a new register is $18.00 (US).
Also, he states that additional information >from the graves at the
cemetery area, including a photo, will cost $20.00 (US). Has anyone
dealt with him concerning these fees? How did you send him the money for
his services? It is not clear >from his letter what type of check or
money order to forward. Thanks for your help.

--
Howard B. Orenstein, Ph.D.
Department of Psychology
Western Maryland College
Westminster, MD 21157
410.857.2521
410.857.2729 (FAX)
horenstn@wmdc.edu
http://wwwfac.wmdc.edu/HTMLpages/Academics/Psychology/HBO/HIK.html


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: Payments to Boleslaw Szenicer #warsaw #poland

asleuth@...
 

I have had dealings with this man and several people I know have as well. I sent him an international money order to his P.O. Box. He replys promptly, in English and he has already sent me a list of names >from the cemetery and is in the process of making the photographs for me of the gravestones I requested. The $20.00 US is per gravestone and item of information he finds related to that gravestone because he does all the research himself and on his own time.

Anita Drexler
Hallandale, Florida


From: Howard Orenstein <horenstn@wmdc.edu>
Date: 2002/02/16 Sat PM 11:04:45 EST
To: "Warszawa Research Group" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [warszawa] Payments to Boleslaw Szenicer

*** You hold the keys to unlock the potential ***
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/page_01.html




*** Encylopedia of Jewish Life - available for shipping***
WORLDWIDE
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



In a letter >from Boleslaw Szenicer, Director of the Jewish Cemetery of
Warsaw, he states that his fee for making a new register is $18.00 (US).
Also, he states that additional information >from the graves at the
cemetery area, including a photo, will cost $20.00 (US). Has anyone
dealt with him concerning these fees? How did you send him the money for
his services? It is not clear >from his letter what type of check or
money order to forward. Thanks for your help.

--
Howard B. Orenstein, Ph.D.
Department of Psychology
Western Maryland College
Westminster, MD 21157
410.857.2521
410.857.2729 (FAX)
horenstn@wmdc.edu
http://wwwfac.wmdc.edu/HTMLpages/Academics/Psychology/HBO/HIK.html


ancestry.com and NYTimes indices #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

I was just informed by a staff email that the Queens Library in NYC has the
Ancestry.com database available for use. It is only available on computers
in the main library and branches but it is available and free.

The NYT has a "Personal Name" index which lists ALL the names that have
appeared in the NYTimes regardless of section--this includes all obits,
paid or otherwise. There is also a separate Obit Index.

Regards,
Anita Citron


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ancestry.com and NYTimes indices #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

I was just informed by a staff email that the Queens Library in NYC has the
Ancestry.com database available for use. It is only available on computers
in the main library and branches but it is available and free.

The NYT has a "Personal Name" index which lists ALL the names that have
appeared in the NYTimes regardless of section--this includes all obits,
paid or otherwise. There is also a separate Obit Index.

Regards,
Anita Citron


Radomsko Cemetery #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am beginning a project to photograph, transliterate, catalogue, and index
all of the tombstones in the Radomsko, Poland Jewish Cemetery. (My TALMAN
and OFMAN families lived there >from the late 1800s to the 1940s.)

Please let me know if you have interest in this project.

Information on this cemetery (one of the largest in Poland, I think) can be
found here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/pol-r.html
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/radomsk/Radomsko.htm

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JRI Poland #Poland Radomsko Cemetery #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am beginning a project to photograph, transliterate, catalogue, and index
all of the tombstones in the Radomsko, Poland Jewish Cemetery. (My TALMAN
and OFMAN families lived there >from the late 1800s to the 1940s.)

Please let me know if you have interest in this project.

Information on this cemetery (one of the largest in Poland, I think) can be
found here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/pol-r.html
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/radomsk/Radomsko.htm

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


Holocaust: Ravensbruck #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I have recently learned that at least one member of my TELMAN family
survived the Holocaust. She was at Ravensbruck death camp, and then
in Sweden.

We are wondering if there were other members of the TELMAN family at
Ravensbruck. Does anyone know if there is a list of persons who were
at Ravensbruck?

Dan

P.S. Miscellaneous information:
http://www.ravensbrueck.de/english/frauen-kz/index.htm

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI, BIDA
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


Re: Lomza and Israel MORRIS #general

Jeanne Gold <Groupie@...>
 

Using the Morse/Tobias search pages
(http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/index.html) for the Ellis Island database
produced over 200+ hits for the surname MORRIS.

Next, I tried the Consolidated Jewish Name Index -- and more than 180 names
came up for the DM 694000 (MORRIS). Specifically for this surname, I found
the following references most suggestive:

MORES - A,B
MORETS - B,J,N
MORETZ - B,M
MOREZ - B
MORICE - S
MORIS - I,Q,m
MORISSE - R
MORITS - C,H,J
MORITZ - A,H,I,L,M,P,Q,R,S,T,i,j,n

Which means these surnames can be found in the following:

A: JRIP
B: All Lithuanian DB
C: All Belarus DB
H: JewishGen Family Finder
I: Family Tree of the Jewish People
J: Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the Russian Empire
L: Sourcebook for Jewish Genealogies and Family Histories
M: Index to Russian Consular Records
N: Belarus Surname Index
P: First American Jewish Families
Q: Palestine Gazette
R: Gedenkbuch (128,000 German Jews murdered in the Holocaust)
S: Index to Memorial to the Jews Deported >from France
T: National Registry of Jewish Holocaust Survivors
i: Cleveland (Ohio) Burials
j: Birth Index for Buda Jewry 1820-1852, 1868
n: ROM-SIG Family Finder

and most interesting:

m: Surnames in the Lomza, Poland, yizkor book
http://www.rechtman.com/lomza_2.htm

It's my considered opinion the surname is probably correct and not changed
from anything else.
Jeanne Gold
CA, USA

"I have really hit an impasse with my search. My Great Grandfather, Israel
Morris, immigrated about 1889 >from Lomza, Lithuania (Hamburg, Liverpool,
NY.) I have both my great grandparents death certificates, my grandfather's
naturalization and death certificates, the family name is always Morris on
all documents. That doesn't sound Russian. I have searched many ship's
records, but with no success. Does anyone have ideas on what name could have
been Anglicized to "Morris?" Where did the name changes take place, at or
before Ellis Island? Do any records exist of lansmanshaft >from NYC around
1900?"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust: Ravensbruck #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I have recently learned that at least one member of my TELMAN family
survived the Holocaust. She was at Ravensbruck death camp, and then
in Sweden.

We are wondering if there were other members of the TELMAN family at
Ravensbruck. Does anyone know if there is a list of persons who were
at Ravensbruck?

Dan

P.S. Miscellaneous information:
http://www.ravensbrueck.de/english/frauen-kz/index.htm

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI, BIDA
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Lomza and Israel MORRIS #general

Jeanne Gold <Groupie@...>
 

Using the Morse/Tobias search pages
(http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/index.html) for the Ellis Island database
produced over 200+ hits for the surname MORRIS.

Next, I tried the Consolidated Jewish Name Index -- and more than 180 names
came up for the DM 694000 (MORRIS). Specifically for this surname, I found
the following references most suggestive:

MORES - A,B
MORETS - B,J,N
MORETZ - B,M
MOREZ - B
MORICE - S
MORIS - I,Q,m
MORISSE - R
MORITS - C,H,J
MORITZ - A,H,I,L,M,P,Q,R,S,T,i,j,n

Which means these surnames can be found in the following:

A: JRIP
B: All Lithuanian DB
C: All Belarus DB
H: JewishGen Family Finder
I: Family Tree of the Jewish People
J: Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the Russian Empire
L: Sourcebook for Jewish Genealogies and Family Histories
M: Index to Russian Consular Records
N: Belarus Surname Index
P: First American Jewish Families
Q: Palestine Gazette
R: Gedenkbuch (128,000 German Jews murdered in the Holocaust)
S: Index to Memorial to the Jews Deported >from France
T: National Registry of Jewish Holocaust Survivors
i: Cleveland (Ohio) Burials
j: Birth Index for Buda Jewry 1820-1852, 1868
n: ROM-SIG Family Finder

and most interesting:

m: Surnames in the Lomza, Poland, yizkor book
http://www.rechtman.com/lomza_2.htm

It's my considered opinion the surname is probably correct and not changed
from anything else.
Jeanne Gold
CA, USA

"I have really hit an impasse with my search. My Great Grandfather, Israel
Morris, immigrated about 1889 >from Lomza, Lithuania (Hamburg, Liverpool,
NY.) I have both my great grandparents death certificates, my grandfather's
naturalization and death certificates, the family name is always Morris on
all documents. That doesn't sound Russian. I have searched many ship's
records, but with no success. Does anyone have ideas on what name could have
been Anglicized to "Morris?" Where did the name changes take place, at or
before Ellis Island? Do any records exist of lansmanshaft >from NYC around
1900?"


Russian name Gnesia=Genia #general

Carol Edan <caroled@...>
 

Shalom,

Could the name Gnesia be a variation of the name Genia/Gittel.

Thanks

Carol Monosson Edan
caroled@netvision.net.il

Visit Israel Genealogy Society www.isragen.org.il
Researching
MONOSSON/POLEY- Moscow/Gomel
PRICE/ARONSON/RUBIN/KUPIETSKY- Kalvarija/Augustow
RABINOVITZ- Novogrodok
MUSHNITCHSKY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian name Gnesia=Genia #general

Carol Edan <caroled@...>
 

Shalom,

Could the name Gnesia be a variation of the name Genia/Gittel.

Thanks

Carol Monosson Edan
caroled@netvision.net.il

Visit Israel Genealogy Society www.isragen.org.il
Researching
MONOSSON/POLEY- Moscow/Gomel
PRICE/ARONSON/RUBIN/KUPIETSKY- Kalvarija/Augustow
RABINOVITZ- Novogrodok
MUSHNITCHSKY


Re: Garabov......? #courland #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

At 19:38 -0500 18/2/02, mike getz wrote:
I would appreciate any advice or guidance on the current name, =
originally Russian but probably renamed under Latvia, of this town in =
Courland within the general area of Bausk.=20

Garabov may not be the full name of this location referred to in =
documents possibly related to the 1857 census.

Many thanks,
Mike Getz

Mike, I looked in all the sources that I have and there is no place by the
name of Garabov. This being Courland, I was trying to think of what German
name that might have been, but did not come up with a satisfactory answer.
I have a very thorough map of Courland [1:200.000], showing even the names
of farms, but I found nothing in the Bauske area even resembling "Garabov".
What source are you using to get that name?

Martha


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: Garabov......? #latvia #courland

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

At 19:38 -0500 18/2/02, mike getz wrote:
I would appreciate any advice or guidance on the current name, =
originally Russian but probably renamed under Latvia, of this town in =
Courland within the general area of Bausk.=20

Garabov may not be the full name of this location referred to in =
documents possibly related to the 1857 census.

Many thanks,
Mike Getz

Mike, I looked in all the sources that I have and there is no place by the
name of Garabov. This being Courland, I was trying to think of what German
name that might have been, but did not come up with a satisfactory answer.
I have a very thorough map of Courland [1:200.000], showing even the names
of farms, but I found nothing in the Bauske area even resembling "Garabov".
What source are you using to get that name?

Martha


Re: Subject: Odd Female Name #general

debjkay <debjkay@...>
 

Dear Sam:

Could be the name Chotzki was Chaske, a diminutive form of the name
Chasia/Khasia, >from the Torah, referring to a type of fragrant wood burned
during temple services. There is information on this name and forms on the
Jewishgen Discussion Group Archives.
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop

Also, my great-grandmother, Chaske was born a TUKTINSKY--wondering if any
relationship?

Debra Kay
debjkay@msn.com
Simi Valley, CA


Ukraine to Bucharest #general

GojuMom@...
 

Just like several others, my family also came >from a shtetl, about 94 miles
SSW of Kiev (Zhivotov) to Romania. They also left illegally and were
smuggled out of the country and across the Dniester river. My father was an
infant in 1918 and when the others in the group feared his crying might give
them away, rather than smother him, my grandmother and he hid in the bottom
of a well. My father's uncle describes carrying him across the river on his
shoulders. The family joined up with my grandmother's sisters in Kishinev
where they all lived for about 3 years and arranged to come to the US.
My grandparents and my father then moved to Bucharest where another son
was born and they eventually got papers to immigrate to the US.They sailed
from Cherbourg, France in 1922. Another sister and her husband were unable to
enter because of the quota and went to Cuba; and the last sister entered the
US alone. My grandfather's family also came >from the same shtetl to Cherbourg
via Bucharest to the US also in 1922.
The EIDB lists my family as being >from Bessarabia, not >from the Ukraine.
But I have the original passport which has the name of the shtetl, and the
district as well as the guberniya and a copy of the original ship manifest.
And I was lucky enough that my father remembered hearing stories of the old
country that I was able to remember and write down.

JoAnne Vanett
Ambler, Pa

Searching: VINNITSKII, BELENKY, ROZENBERG, ALTMAN, FEINGOLD, GRIMBURG,
SOLOSITSKY, SEGAL(ovsky), SHPAK all >from Zhivotov (49.14/29.32) 93.7 miles
SSW of Kiev, and the surrounding area.
also HOSSMAN, GOMBERG
ALTKRUG, ZURANSKY >from Suwalki/Lomza area
FUHRMAN somewhere in "Russia"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Subject: Odd Female Name #general

debjkay <debjkay@...>
 

Dear Sam:

Could be the name Chotzki was Chaske, a diminutive form of the name
Chasia/Khasia, >from the Torah, referring to a type of fragrant wood burned
during temple services. There is information on this name and forms on the
Jewishgen Discussion Group Archives.
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop

Also, my great-grandmother, Chaske was born a TUKTINSKY--wondering if any
relationship?

Debra Kay
debjkay@msn.com
Simi Valley, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ukraine to Bucharest #general

GojuMom@...
 

Just like several others, my family also came >from a shtetl, about 94 miles
SSW of Kiev (Zhivotov) to Romania. They also left illegally and were
smuggled out of the country and across the Dniester river. My father was an
infant in 1918 and when the others in the group feared his crying might give
them away, rather than smother him, my grandmother and he hid in the bottom
of a well. My father's uncle describes carrying him across the river on his
shoulders. The family joined up with my grandmother's sisters in Kishinev
where they all lived for about 3 years and arranged to come to the US.
My grandparents and my father then moved to Bucharest where another son
was born and they eventually got papers to immigrate to the US.They sailed
from Cherbourg, France in 1922. Another sister and her husband were unable to
enter because of the quota and went to Cuba; and the last sister entered the
US alone. My grandfather's family also came >from the same shtetl to Cherbourg
via Bucharest to the US also in 1922.
The EIDB lists my family as being >from Bessarabia, not >from the Ukraine.
But I have the original passport which has the name of the shtetl, and the
district as well as the guberniya and a copy of the original ship manifest.
And I was lucky enough that my father remembered hearing stories of the old
country that I was able to remember and write down.

JoAnne Vanett
Ambler, Pa

Searching: VINNITSKII, BELENKY, ROZENBERG, ALTMAN, FEINGOLD, GRIMBURG,
SOLOSITSKY, SEGAL(ovsky), SHPAK all >from Zhivotov (49.14/29.32) 93.7 miles
SSW of Kiev, and the surrounding area.
also HOSSMAN, GOMBERG
ALTKRUG, ZURANSKY >from Suwalki/Lomza area
FUHRMAN somewhere in "Russia"