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Re: Subject: Odd Female Name #general

debjkay <debjkay@...>
 

Dear Sam:

Could be the name Chotzki was Chaske, a diminutive form of the name
Chasia/Khasia, >from the Torah, referring to a type of fragrant wood burned
during temple services. There is information on this name and forms on the
Jewishgen Discussion Group Archives.
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop

Also, my great-grandmother, Chaske was born a TUKTINSKY--wondering if any
relationship?

Debra Kay
debjkay@msn.com
Simi Valley, CA


Ukraine to Bucharest #general

GojuMom@...
 

Just like several others, my family also came >from a shtetl, about 94 miles
SSW of Kiev (Zhivotov) to Romania. They also left illegally and were
smuggled out of the country and across the Dniester river. My father was an
infant in 1918 and when the others in the group feared his crying might give
them away, rather than smother him, my grandmother and he hid in the bottom
of a well. My father's uncle describes carrying him across the river on his
shoulders. The family joined up with my grandmother's sisters in Kishinev
where they all lived for about 3 years and arranged to come to the US.
My grandparents and my father then moved to Bucharest where another son
was born and they eventually got papers to immigrate to the US.They sailed
from Cherbourg, France in 1922. Another sister and her husband were unable to
enter because of the quota and went to Cuba; and the last sister entered the
US alone. My grandfather's family also came >from the same shtetl to Cherbourg
via Bucharest to the US also in 1922.
The EIDB lists my family as being >from Bessarabia, not >from the Ukraine.
But I have the original passport which has the name of the shtetl, and the
district as well as the guberniya and a copy of the original ship manifest.
And I was lucky enough that my father remembered hearing stories of the old
country that I was able to remember and write down.

JoAnne Vanett
Ambler, Pa

Searching: VINNITSKII, BELENKY, ROZENBERG, ALTMAN, FEINGOLD, GRIMBURG,
SOLOSITSKY, SEGAL(ovsky), SHPAK all >from Zhivotov (49.14/29.32) 93.7 miles
SSW of Kiev, and the surrounding area.
also HOSSMAN, GOMBERG
ALTKRUG, ZURANSKY >from Suwalki/Lomza area
FUHRMAN somewhere in "Russia"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Subject: Odd Female Name #general

debjkay <debjkay@...>
 

Dear Sam:

Could be the name Chotzki was Chaske, a diminutive form of the name
Chasia/Khasia, >from the Torah, referring to a type of fragrant wood burned
during temple services. There is information on this name and forms on the
Jewishgen Discussion Group Archives.
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop

Also, my great-grandmother, Chaske was born a TUKTINSKY--wondering if any
relationship?

Debra Kay
debjkay@msn.com
Simi Valley, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ukraine to Bucharest #general

GojuMom@...
 

Just like several others, my family also came >from a shtetl, about 94 miles
SSW of Kiev (Zhivotov) to Romania. They also left illegally and were
smuggled out of the country and across the Dniester river. My father was an
infant in 1918 and when the others in the group feared his crying might give
them away, rather than smother him, my grandmother and he hid in the bottom
of a well. My father's uncle describes carrying him across the river on his
shoulders. The family joined up with my grandmother's sisters in Kishinev
where they all lived for about 3 years and arranged to come to the US.
My grandparents and my father then moved to Bucharest where another son
was born and they eventually got papers to immigrate to the US.They sailed
from Cherbourg, France in 1922. Another sister and her husband were unable to
enter because of the quota and went to Cuba; and the last sister entered the
US alone. My grandfather's family also came >from the same shtetl to Cherbourg
via Bucharest to the US also in 1922.
The EIDB lists my family as being >from Bessarabia, not >from the Ukraine.
But I have the original passport which has the name of the shtetl, and the
district as well as the guberniya and a copy of the original ship manifest.
And I was lucky enough that my father remembered hearing stories of the old
country that I was able to remember and write down.

JoAnne Vanett
Ambler, Pa

Searching: VINNITSKII, BELENKY, ROZENBERG, ALTMAN, FEINGOLD, GRIMBURG,
SOLOSITSKY, SEGAL(ovsky), SHPAK all >from Zhivotov (49.14/29.32) 93.7 miles
SSW of Kiev, and the surrounding area.
also HOSSMAN, GOMBERG
ALTKRUG, ZURANSKY >from Suwalki/Lomza area
FUHRMAN somewhere in "Russia"


Searching Russian immigrant's documentation in Israel #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/20/2002 5:20:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
skomarov@narod.ru writes:

<< I wander for search documents in Israel. I know that my father, his name
GEGERMAN Josef ( Iosef, Iosif)
==Be open to the possibility that he may have been known as GEIGERMAN

lived in Israel during about >from the May to October 1973.
One letter have address:
"Maon-Olim Geffet **\*** Tel-Aviv, Jaffo" I wander, is there the base of
olim, people which went in(ala)Israel?
Which way I can get any docs about my father for that time, when he was in
Israel? >>
==Write to the
Immigration Department of the Jewish Agency for Israel,
48 King George St.,
Jerusalem, Israel.

and give them all the information tou have. You'd probably do best by writing
them a letter both in English and in Russian.

Michael Bernet, New York


looking for family-GAMSU,GAMSA,BERZAK,LEVINE #general

Barbara <cbwilk@...>
 

Subject: looking for family-GAMSU, GAMSA, BERZAK, LEVINE

Dear Friends,

I am looking for family members with the last name of "Gamsu"
"Gamsa". I have a friend in Israel named Gilda who is updating
the family tree and needs a lot of Help.If you can look in your
phone books for any listing.I will write to them for information
and send them information we have.We are having a lot of trouble
with dates not matching up.I will forward all the information to
the woman who is up dating the family tree.

Thank you very much

Barbara Wilkenshoff

Looking for the following names"Gamsu,Gamsa,Berzak,Levine"


New JewishGen InfoFiles #lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

from Warren Blatt:
I'm pleased to announce three new JewishGen InfoFiles,
which document and provide assistance with using JewishGen
projects and services:

** JewishGen Support Center:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Support.htm >

Our new JewishGen Help Desk InfoFile, answering all basic
questions about JewishGen services: How to manage your
mailing list subscriptions; changing addresses; finding a
forgotten JGFF password; etc. Look here first for answers.

** FTJP FAQ:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom/faq >

Complete documentation on how to use the JewishGen
"Family Tree of the Jewish People" (FTJP) database.

** JGFF FAQ in Spanish:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/LANG_SP/jgff-faq.html >

A translation of the "Frequently Asked Questions about
the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)" - en Espagnol.
The first ever JewishGen documentation in another language.
Thanks to Carlos Glikson of Argentina for the translation,
and Lance Ackerfeld of Israel for the HTML work.

We would like to have other instructional materials for
JewishGen programs translated into other languages. We are
seeking volunteers who are capable of creating translations
of material which is presently available only in English.
If you would like to volunteer to help in these translation
efforts, please contact the JewishGen International Desk
at < international@jewishgen.org >.

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
Boston, MA
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Russian immigrant's documentation in Israel #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/20/2002 5:20:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
skomarov@narod.ru writes:

<< I wander for search documents in Israel. I know that my father, his name
GEGERMAN Josef ( Iosef, Iosif)
==Be open to the possibility that he may have been known as GEIGERMAN

lived in Israel during about >from the May to October 1973.
One letter have address:
"Maon-Olim Geffet **\*** Tel-Aviv, Jaffo" I wander, is there the base of
olim, people which went in(ala)Israel?
Which way I can get any docs about my father for that time, when he was in
Israel? >>
==Write to the
Immigration Department of the Jewish Agency for Israel,
48 King George St.,
Jerusalem, Israel.

and give them all the information tou have. You'd probably do best by writing
them a letter both in English and in Russian.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen looking for family-GAMSU,GAMSA,BERZAK,LEVINE #general

Barbara <cbwilk@...>
 

Subject: looking for family-GAMSU, GAMSA, BERZAK, LEVINE

Dear Friends,

I am looking for family members with the last name of "Gamsu"
"Gamsa". I have a friend in Israel named Gilda who is updating
the family tree and needs a lot of Help.If you can look in your
phone books for any listing.I will write to them for information
and send them information we have.We are having a lot of trouble
with dates not matching up.I will forward all the information to
the woman who is up dating the family tree.

Thank you very much

Barbara Wilkenshoff

Looking for the following names"Gamsu,Gamsa,Berzak,Levine"


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland New JewishGen InfoFiles #lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

from Warren Blatt:
I'm pleased to announce three new JewishGen InfoFiles,
which document and provide assistance with using JewishGen
projects and services:

** JewishGen Support Center:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Support.htm >

Our new JewishGen Help Desk InfoFile, answering all basic
questions about JewishGen services: How to manage your
mailing list subscriptions; changing addresses; finding a
forgotten JGFF password; etc. Look here first for answers.

** FTJP FAQ:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom/faq >

Complete documentation on how to use the JewishGen
"Family Tree of the Jewish People" (FTJP) database.

** JGFF FAQ in Spanish:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/LANG_SP/jgff-faq.html >

A translation of the "Frequently Asked Questions about
the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)" - en Espagnol.
The first ever JewishGen documentation in another language.
Thanks to Carlos Glikson of Argentina for the translation,
and Lance Ackerfeld of Israel for the HTML work.

We would like to have other instructional materials for
JewishGen programs translated into other languages. We are
seeking volunteers who are capable of creating translations
of material which is presently available only in English.
If you would like to volunteer to help in these translation
efforts, please contact the JewishGen International Desk
at < international@jewishgen.org >.

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
Boston, MA
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


Jewish position of authority #ukraine

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

In my family it is said that my great grandfather was the "mayor" of the
town of Olevsk, in about 1915. It was then in Russia, part of Volynia
Gubernia, and now considered part of the Ukraine.
My question is whether it was possble for a Jew to be a mayor at that time.
If not actually "mayor", was there another position of authority which he
might have had?
Any reference to history books which might shed light on this would also be
appreciated.
Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
So. Florida


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Jewish position of authority #ukraine

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

In my family it is said that my great grandfather was the "mayor" of the
town of Olevsk, in about 1915. It was then in Russia, part of Volynia
Gubernia, and now considered part of the Ukraine.
My question is whether it was possble for a Jew to be a mayor at that time.
If not actually "mayor", was there another position of authority which he
might have had?
Any reference to history books which might shed light on this would also be
appreciated.
Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
So. Florida


NY State Railroads #general

NJ55TURTLE@...
 

Thanks to all genners that responded to my question on New York State Railroads.
I am currently following some of the posted suggestions and hopefully will
have answers.

Steve Pickholtz
searching------- Pickholtz (all spellings) and Winitsky


Uncle and nephew with same name #general

Lancy
 

Denise Azbill wrote:
I recently met a new cousin, and to my amazement discovered
that his
father's name was Elias, which was also my grandfather's name.


It is important to know when and where the naming of the nephew
took place - in Europe or in the States.
There are many possibilities. I offer some, other genners will
probably suggest others.

1) I believe Elias, as such, was not that common a name in
Galicia. However, it was more common among immigrants as a
transliteration of the many Hebrew names starting with "Eli"
(like Elyahu, Elisha, Eliezer, Elimelech, Eliyakim, etc.).
Perhaps the Hebrew names were different.

2) Maybe both Elias were named after the same ancestor, as was
suggested to you.

3) As was pointed out not long ago in this forum, naming after a
dead or living relative is not a religious precept, but rather a
"minhag" (a tradition). Your great-uncle may have chosen not to
abide by tradition.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY State Railroads #general

NJ55TURTLE@...
 

Thanks to all genners that responded to my question on New York State Railroads.
I am currently following some of the posted suggestions and hopefully will
have answers.

Steve Pickholtz
searching------- Pickholtz (all spellings) and Winitsky


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Uncle and nephew with same name #general

Lancy
 

Denise Azbill wrote:
I recently met a new cousin, and to my amazement discovered
that his
father's name was Elias, which was also my grandfather's name.


It is important to know when and where the naming of the nephew
took place - in Europe or in the States.
There are many possibilities. I offer some, other genners will
probably suggest others.

1) I believe Elias, as such, was not that common a name in
Galicia. However, it was more common among immigrants as a
transliteration of the many Hebrew names starting with "Eli"
(like Elyahu, Elisha, Eliezer, Elimelech, Eliyakim, etc.).
Perhaps the Hebrew names were different.

2) Maybe both Elias were named after the same ancestor, as was
suggested to you.

3) As was pointed out not long ago in this forum, naming after a
dead or living relative is not a religious precept, but rather a
"minhag" (a tradition). Your great-uncle may have chosen not to
abide by tradition.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel


Radomsko Cemetery #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am beginning a project to photograph, transliterate, catalogue, and index
all of the tombstones in the Radomsko, Poland Jewish Cemetery. (My TALMAN
and OFMAN families lived there >from the late 1800s to the 1940s.)

Please let me know if you have interest in this project.

Information on this cemetery (one of the largest in Poland, I think) can be
found here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/pol-r.html
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/radomsk/Radomsko.htm

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


Re: Uncle and nephew with same name #general

Susan&David
 

Your assumption, that both individuals named Elias were named for the same
person may not be true. My name is David and my brother's son is also David.
I am named for my grandfather, my nephew is named for his mother's uncle.

David Rosen
Boston, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Radomsko Cemetery #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am beginning a project to photograph, transliterate, catalogue, and index
all of the tombstones in the Radomsko, Poland Jewish Cemetery. (My TALMAN
and OFMAN families lived there >from the late 1800s to the 1940s.)

Please let me know if you have interest in this project.

Information on this cemetery (one of the largest in Poland, I think) can be
found here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/pol-r.html
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/radomsk/Radomsko.htm

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Uncle and nephew with same name #general

Susan&David
 

Your assumption, that both individuals named Elias were named for the same
person may not be true. My name is David and my brother's son is also David.
I am named for my grandfather, my nephew is named for his mother's uncle.

David Rosen
Boston, MA