Help locate this Gulag-camp or village listed in post-war record #russia #holocaust

Moses Jefferson

Greetings all,

I’ve come across a post-war record (attached) for a great-uncle of mine, who was exiled with his entire family (including my grandparents) to Stalin’s labour camps, know also as GULAG.

The record states (if I interpreted it correctly) that they were interned at Bawao - Siberia, Russia, however I cannot seem to locate this town/village, or any mention of such a place. I hope I didn’t get the spelling wrong! Or perhaps the place got a name change?

This bit of information is vital to me, since my grandparents never mention where they were kept during the war (other than talking about the fact that they worked hard in a village in Siberia).

I would really appreciate any help.

Best, Moses Jefferson
London, England 

Re: LOOK-UP? Passaic, NY, USA, GURTMAN, Henry, 1899-1973/Dora, 1899-1958 [POLAND] #usa #poland

Sherri Bobish


Try searching this free site of old digitized newspapers.

You can search by name, or address.

The surname GURTMAN appears often in The Jewish Community News (Clifton, NJ.)  Also in Paterson newspapers, and others.

Names at Riverside Cem. in Saddle Brook can be searched at:

Some of the names you mention are listed on The Passaic County Clerk's Office database of naturalizations:
You can view the document itself at the above site.


Sherri Bobish

Re: Gravestone translation needed from Hebrew for Nathan Fisher (1868-1912) #russia #translation

Dubin, David M. MD

Top: my dear husband
inside star: here lies (abbreviation)
our teacher, Rabbi (abbreviation which often but not always means he was a rabbi)
Natan (in Ashkenazic Hebrew Nosson) Nota son of Avraham
died 5 Tishri 5672
mat his soul be bound in the bonds of everlasting life (abbreviation)

David Dubin

1862 Pogrebishche Draft List #ukraine


For researchers interested in the Ukrainian town of Pogrebishche:
An 1862 list of draft-eligible men was recently posted online by Alex Krakovsky. The document begins with an index to family heads and is followed by family-by-family lists. Anyone who finds a surname of interest in the index can turn to the appropriate page and see the names of people in each family. 
Gennady Shmukler very kindly translated the index of the names, and I have added this index as a downloadable excel file to the Pogrebishche Kehlilalinks page, under the research heading. The file can be downloaded here. Many thanks to Gennady. Anyone who is interested can download the list, which contains a link at the top to the document on Alex Krakovsky's wiki page, and proceed with their research accordingly. 
Joshua Skarf
Pogrebishche town leader 
Researching SHKAROVSKY (Pogrebishche and Bila Tserkva), SPIVAK (Tetiev and Bila Tserkva), WEXELMAN (Uman), GERBER (Shepetikva and Ladyzhinka), and BARABAK (Pogrebishche, Zhivotov) 

Re: Gravestone translation needed from Hebrew for Nathan Fisher (1868-1912) #russia #translation

Daniel Teichman

It starts with:
Here rests my beloved husband
our teacher the rabbi
Nathan Nute son of Abraham

1. "our teacher the rabbi" does not necessarily have to be the title of a rabbi but is often used as honorary title for a learned person.
2.  As the inscription on the grave is without vowels, we can't know for sure how the name was spelled in the case of Nathan Fisher, but in those cases I have seen the name combined with Nathan, it is usually spelled Nute, not Nota.

Daniel Teichman

Correct Marriage Date & Place - Jakob TORTEN & Lea Grünberg #austria-czech #galicia


My great grandparents, Jakob Torten & Lea Grünberg lived in Podhajce, Galicia & moved to Vienna which they fled prior to World War II. A table on  JewishGen online has them listed as having marries in 1915 Vienna in the synagogue in Tempelgasse. Their children married a few years later in Orthodox synagogues in Vienna. It seems that Jakob & Lea must have married much earlier, possibly in Podhajce where they were from. Where can I locate a correct copy of Jakob Torten & Lea Grünberg's wedding year & venue? Thank you. - Helen Kon NYC, hedkon@...

translation of German letter into English #translation

Chana Stein

I request a translation of this letter written in German to my father's cousin who arrived in America in 1939 and it might have details about the family left in Czechoslovakia.
It is on ViewMate on the following address:

Please respond using the online ViewMate Form.

Thank you,
Chana Altman Stein

ViewMate translation request from German to English #translation

Chana Stein

I would like to request a translation of a letter from german to english. It is a letter written to my father's cousin when he came to America in 1939 and might have information about the family left in Czechoslovakia. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

Please respond using the form provided on the ViewMate image page. 
Thank you very much,

Chana Altman Stein

view mate translation from german to english #translation

Chana Stein

I would like to request a translation of a letter from german to english. It is a letter written to my father's cousin when he came to America in 1939 and might have information about the family left in Czechoslovakia. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
Please respond using the form provided on the ViewMate image page. 
Thank you very much,

Chana Altman Stein

Re: The ancestry of Sarah nee MENDES (b 1791) wife of David JUDA RODRIGUES #unitedkingdom #germany #sephardic


Am replying to my own posting

I am wondering to myself, whether there is a repository of Hamburg ketubot somewhere, from that period (17th,18th and 19th century). When I tried searching online "Ketubot" and "Hamburg", the results seem to be vendors who sell these (I hope reproductions) for the artistic side and style, but in most cases, no reference to the names of the couple.

David  Ziants
PS Note that when I posted, there was no approved hashtag for #holland or #netherlands. Otherwise, I would have added one of these as well.

Re: Paul STRANSKY Vienna to Paris #austria-czech #france

Daniela Torsh

Thanks Bernard for this answer to my question. Is there a central database I can search to see whether Paul STRANSKY was in a French camp before 1940 when he joined the French Army?
I did find the entry for him in the Ministry list thanks. I made a mistake and didn't realise that Laval was a town not a person. Now I am clear about that. after training where did he go? How can i find that out? You suggest he was sent to Africa to fight. A lot of Australians were there and of course so were the Czechs and the Poles. They defeated Rommel at Tobruk a famous 
Allied victory.
David Choukron kindly offered to write to the Bureau Etrangeres for me so I hope I will find out more from that enquiry. He has also kindly offered to apply for the naturalisation file which i hope will tell me more.
I have been in touch with Patrice Paul's younger son as well as his older brother Michel-Frederic and even Jan,  Michel's son- all three are in Paris.

Best wishes
Daniela Torsh

Family Stories -- Portland, Oregon #announcements #usa

Linda Kelley

Portland, OR, USA KehilaLinks page is under construction! If your relatives lived in Portland, Oregon, USA from 1850 to 1950, we need your family story for Portland's KehilaLinks page. [So far we have Abrahamson and Menasch.] Please contact Linda Wolfe Kelley at lkelley49@.... Thank you!

Linda Kelley

Re: Gravestone translation needed from Hebrew for Nathan Fisher (1868-1912) #russia #translation

Neil Kominsky

Natan is correct, but the second name is Nota.
Neil Kominsky

New Gesher Galicia Webinar: Roots, Resilience, Renewal: Photographs and Stories of Jewish Life in Poland: 1975-1983 / 2013-2019 by Chuck Fishman #photographs #announcements #galicia #poland

Steven Turner

Dear Friends,

Gesher Galicia is proud to offer our members a presentation on the
work of he internationally renowned photographer, Chuck Fishman.

In his 40-year career, freelance photographer Chuck Fishman has
focused on social, political and ethnographic issues with a strong
humanistic concern. His work has been extensively published,
exhibited, and collected worldwide, and has earned him prestigious
World Press Photo Foundation medals four times.

His photographs have appeared on the covers of Time, Life, Fortune,
Newsweek, The London Sunday Times, The Economist and numerous others,
and have been selected for publication in the American Photography and
Communication Arts juried annuals.

Chuck’s work is included in the collections of the Smithsonian
National Portrait Gallery; the United Nations; POLIN: The Museum of
the History of Polish Jews; The Center for Creative Photography;
University of Arizona; Stanford University; The Studio Museum in
Harlem; Hogan Jazz Archive, Tulane University and the New York Public
Library to name a few, as well as private and corporate collections.

Fishman’s work on Jewish life in Poland, spanning over 40 years, is
the subject of a one-man exhibition of silver gelatin prints which
first opened at the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw in 2018.
That exhibition moved to the Galicia Jewish Museum in Krakow  before
being shown in the United States at colleges and universities in 2019.

This presentation is recorded and on our Members Portal for members to
view at their convenience.

Please make sure you are logged into Gesher Galicia before clicking the link.

Please be sure to view the introductory page to see a special offer
for Chuck Fishman prints just for Gesher Galicia members.

You must be a member of Gesher Galicia to be able to access the
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If you are unable to access the Members Portal, send your inquiries
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Please email Gesher Galicia at info@... with any
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Gesher Galicia wishes all our North American friends a very happy and
safe Labor Day weekend.

Dr. Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Susan stone

What would be the best way to preserve all of the data in print that would be efficient and clear, but not as a book? Something serviceable, but not necessarily smooth and pretty!  (This foregoing is another thing that has keep me up at night!) Any advice from you or anyone else on this question would be welcome.  

Re electronic genealogies, I believe that Family Search would be the best bet for attempting to preserve genealogies digitally because of its institutional affiliation with the Mormon church.  The Church has been, and I think is likely to continue to be a more stable entity than any online company--commercial companies come and go, but major religions tend to stick around longer.   Also, because of genealogy's central role in Mormonism the motivation for making sure the data is protected and continues to be available and accessible is greater than that of commercial enterprises.

Erika...Everything you said is what I am thinking about...a book is static.  But it's better than nothing to give to relatives.  AND..what a conundrum about printing portions for each part of my tree!  I have famiy tree but I think I will add it to Family Search.  Here's something I never thought I would have to say..."I hope the Mormons are around a long, long time!".

Susan Stone
Evanston, IL

Re: Brothers WEINER marry sisters HYMAN in Philly; Seeking Details. #romania

The Becker's Email

Here is the link to Isaac's naturalization papers:

Harry married Tillie Hymovitz on 1 Aug. 1907  in Philadelphia.  Here's the link to the marriage records.   There are 3 images and you will have to advance the frame.

I think Isaac and Pauline may have married before arriving in Philadelphia.  The 1910 census has that they have been married 11 years which puts the marriage c. 1899.  

Also note that dates of birth are inconsistent.  Different documents have different dates.

Johanna Becker

Re: My uncle Mendel Wolf BLAU & Mordka BLAU from Kolbuszowa #galicia

Barbara L. Kornblau


You may want to check out our "Kolbuszowa Region Research Group (KRRG)" on Facebook at One of our members might have more information for you

Barbara Kornblau
Co-administrator of the Facebook group
Blitzers, Siegel, and Allweiss from Kobuszowa....

Locating derivative citizenship record of minor whose parent naturalized in 1905. #records


I found on Ancestry a copy of my great-grandfather's (Isaak Sand) naturalization records from the District Court of the United States for the Eastern District of New York, dated December 1,1905. Attached to the court records is a slip of paper with the names of three of his 10 children who filed a derivative application for their own certificate of citizenship in 1946 and 1947. One of the applicants was my grandmother, Esther Sand Frank, who was born in Lodz, Poland and was a minor child when her father was naturalized in1905. The derivative application is dated June 24, 1946 with a file no. 0300 - 121726.

I would like to obtain my grandmother's records. I am not sure if I am applying for her C-file or if she would have one. Where I should apply? Do I need to file an genealogical index request with USCIS as the original naturalization was over 100 years ago (but it was before 1906 ) or can I file a FOIA request since my grandmother's derivative application was made in 1946?  Also I am not sure if it is pertinent, but in 1913 my great grandfather applied for and received a passport for himself and his "minor child", Esther Sand (she was 20 years old at the time). I have a record of them returning from Europe about a month after the passport was issued. Both were listed on the manifest as US citizens.  I have already checked on Ancestry, the "Subject Index to Correspondence and Case Files of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 1903-1952. NARA microfilm publication T458" and found nothing. Thank you for your help.

Elaine Zimmer

Re: Naturalizations France #france

Bernard Flam

From Paris to Tsuri,
WWII started 1939, September 2nd.
Phoney war ended in May 1940 when Hitler invaded Belgium, Nederlands then France (Blitzkrieg, May 10th - June 14th).
On June 14th, Nazis entered Paris.
This was an end to the Republican and democratic state and Petain obtained full power from Parliament.
As soon as July 22nd, an antisemitic law had been passed to "de-naturalize" foreign Jews who had been naturalized by 1927 law.
This law gave an easy access to French citizenship, a way to repopulate France after WWI : 1.5 millions KIA, some millions of wounded and disabled persons.

In fact, about 15.000 Jewish citizens lost their French nationality, from ca 100.000  new Jewish citizens from 1919 to 1939.
Of course, no new naturalizations were given to Jews during this period.
Last but not the least : this de-naturalization applied also to children born in France from these foreign parents. 
But in our nation, from French Revolution, we benefit of "jus solis", you are automatically French when you are born on French soil.
These children had no other nationality than being French : by this de-naturalization, they became stateless !

Paris had been liberated on 1944, ca August 25th.
A law passed on October (France had been fully liberated only during 1945 spring) automatically reestablished  French citizenship to de-naturalized Jews.

For person who had filled a naturalization file before WWII without being accepted, this file is the "basis" of their inquiry after WWII : this is a proof that these files had been kept for some years  (I am sure of that, it had been my father's case and I could copy his documents given in 1939 in his 1948' final file).

I guess that files which hadn't been claimed for a new inquiry after some years, had been destroyed.
In their Finding Aids, National Archives explain there is no list, no index.

You surely know this : in genealogy, there no answer to question you don't ask !
If you give me, by private reply, your father-in-law identity, I could do some searches, I am a full volunteer and I manage the Jewish genealogy workshop of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring of France.

Bernard Flam

Re: Brothers WEINER marry sisters HYMAN in Philly; Seeking Details. #romania

Sherri Bobish


There is a Harry WEINER (wife Tillie, daughter Rose) who naturalized in Philly.  The papers give both Harry and Tillie's towns of birth, and other info.

Here is a link to the nat papers on FamilySearch:


Sherri Bobish

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