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Re: Cousin Who's a Writer #galicia

Asparagirl <schreier@...>
 

With regards to the publishing of just about anything, why not try one
of the vanity-publishing-on-demand companies, like Xlibris
(www.xlibris.com)? You can publish as many or as few copies (yes,
actual hardbound books) of any text you choose, and you only pay for the
number of copies you actually create. The book is stored in digital
format, so any time you want to create, say, another hundred coipes, you
just tell them so and poof! instant books! The books are assigned
IBSN's and everything. You can choose to promote/hand-out the books
yourself, or let the company do it, or do it through retailers (each
with a different associated price), and you can publish in hardback,
paperback, and/or e-book format.

(Note: I have no connection, financial or otherwise, to Xlibris; I'm
just pointing it out to GG members who might be interested. I've never
used their services either, but it seems very cool and I've heard good
things about them.)


- Brooke Schreier
New York, New York


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Cousin Who's a Writer #galicia

Asparagirl <schreier@...>
 

With regards to the publishing of just about anything, why not try one
of the vanity-publishing-on-demand companies, like Xlibris
(www.xlibris.com)? You can publish as many or as few copies (yes,
actual hardbound books) of any text you choose, and you only pay for the
number of copies you actually create. The book is stored in digital
format, so any time you want to create, say, another hundred coipes, you
just tell them so and poof! instant books! The books are assigned
IBSN's and everything. You can choose to promote/hand-out the books
yourself, or let the company do it, or do it through retailers (each
with a different associated price), and you can publish in hardback,
paperback, and/or e-book format.

(Note: I have no connection, financial or otherwise, to Xlibris; I'm
just pointing it out to GG members who might be interested. I've never
used their services either, but it seems very cool and I've heard good
things about them.)


- Brooke Schreier
New York, New York


Re: Cousin Who's a Writer #galicia

Plutsk@...
 

Here is the second paragraph of my message on "Cousin Who's a Writer"
which was omitted >from the SIG List.

"There is some precedent for publishing fiction in JGS materials: Several
of the poems on Jewish and genealogical themes of contemporary poet Steve
Orlen have been published in "Generations," the magazine of the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Michigan, and have been much appreciated by the
membership.

Published in this fashion, they will also be indexed and available to others
farr into the future, long after a commerical or vanity-press publication
would have gone out of print and hard or impossible to find. It's an option
to consider, anyway."

Thank you.

Steve Gold
Detroit area

MODERATOR: The first paragraph was originally omitted because it appeared to
be misleading. Carol Cohen spoke of her relative's personal recollections
and stories, which appear to be a non-fictional account, not fiction. The
second paragraph is okay.

Mailing lists are moderated to assure acceptable content and tone of
messages posted. Sometimes a message is edited for clarification and
sometimes a message is rejected outright.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Cousin Who's a Writer #galicia

Plutsk@...
 

Here is the second paragraph of my message on "Cousin Who's a Writer"
which was omitted >from the SIG List.

"There is some precedent for publishing fiction in JGS materials: Several
of the poems on Jewish and genealogical themes of contemporary poet Steve
Orlen have been published in "Generations," the magazine of the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Michigan, and have been much appreciated by the
membership.

Published in this fashion, they will also be indexed and available to others
farr into the future, long after a commerical or vanity-press publication
would have gone out of print and hard or impossible to find. It's an option
to consider, anyway."

Thank you.

Steve Gold
Detroit area

MODERATOR: The first paragraph was originally omitted because it appeared to
be misleading. Carol Cohen spoke of her relative's personal recollections
and stories, which appear to be a non-fictional account, not fiction. The
second paragraph is okay.

Mailing lists are moderated to assure acceptable content and tone of
messages posted. Sometimes a message is edited for clarification and
sometimes a message is rejected outright.


R. WORTZMAN from TORONTO #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Dear genners,
I must again apologize for waiting twenty-five years to track down someone
I met very briefly who may no longer be alive! I was in Toronto, Ontario,
Canada February 25-29 1976 to attend the International Studies Association
Convention. Since my budget did not run to the Royal York Hotel, where the
convention was being held, I stayed with a friend on Bathurst Street. While
waiting for the bus one morning, a woman started a conversation with me in
Yiddish. As usual, I asked where she was from, and to my amazement, she
told me that she was born in Kloke, near Lukashifke, my father's home
town. I grabbed the only thing I had to write on, the program of the
convention, and started jotting down what she said. The bus came, she got
on, and that was the end of the conversation.
By the time I got home other matters intervened, job, children, etc., the
program of the convention was packed away and only now, five plus years
after making aliya, finally unpacking some of the boxes that have been
waiting their turn, I came across the program with my notes.
I was 46 at the time of this meeting and Mr. Wortzman was at least 60,
so if she is alive she is quite old. Her first name may be Reytsa. In 1976
she lived at Forest Ridge Drive, Toronto Ont M6B 1H1.
Here are some of the names scribbled on my convention program:
Feyge Tener, Velvl der Halfan (money exchanger), Shalom Tener, Yidl Tener,
Yakov Grosman. Reytsa Bikov >from Tetiev. daughter of Dobe and Yankl
Grosman, Yakov married Feyge >from Tetiev and moved there. She (?) married
her cousin, Ben Tsiyon who was a hazn. Reytsa's mother came >from
Lukashifke. Mrs. Wortzman also mentioned Yona Tetievsky. Levi Shkolnick
(Eshkol) was a relative. The last name she mentioned was that of Leyzer
Zabaru of Toronto.

It's a long shot, but if any of the above names sound familiar, I should
love to correspond.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

Dr.Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Dr.Joseph M. Schwarcz
Arad, Israel


WEIDENs from Tarnow #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

My husband's pgf, Isak Weiden, was born in Tarnow (Poland) but moved to
Vienna with his wife and children between the wars. He died there in 1940
(thus narrowly escaping the Holocaust); but his wife, children and
grandchildren were deported to Kovno in 1941 along with hundreds of other
Viennese Jews -- all of whom were murdered on arrival and dumped in a mass
grave. Isak Weiden's only surviving grandchild is my husband, who had
escaped >from Vienna on a Kindertransport in 1939. So, please would
anyone named Weiden (especially with ancestors >from Tarnow ) contact me?

One thing we are interested in is whether people >from that family (or
perhaps people named Weiden in general) are of Kohen, Levi or Yisra'el
origin. I remember speaking with a Weiden family 30 years ago in
Jerusalem, who claimed to be Levi'im; but I'd need to hear >from a lot more
Weidens in order to determine whether this is true of Weidens in general.
My grandson is coming up to bar mitzvah age and it would be nice to get
this straightened out (our four sons simply had to assume they were
Yisra'el for want of any information to the contrary!).

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen R. WORTZMAN from TORONTO #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Dear genners,
I must again apologize for waiting twenty-five years to track down someone
I met very briefly who may no longer be alive! I was in Toronto, Ontario,
Canada February 25-29 1976 to attend the International Studies Association
Convention. Since my budget did not run to the Royal York Hotel, where the
convention was being held, I stayed with a friend on Bathurst Street. While
waiting for the bus one morning, a woman started a conversation with me in
Yiddish. As usual, I asked where she was from, and to my amazement, she
told me that she was born in Kloke, near Lukashifke, my father's home
town. I grabbed the only thing I had to write on, the program of the
convention, and started jotting down what she said. The bus came, she got
on, and that was the end of the conversation.
By the time I got home other matters intervened, job, children, etc., the
program of the convention was packed away and only now, five plus years
after making aliya, finally unpacking some of the boxes that have been
waiting their turn, I came across the program with my notes.
I was 46 at the time of this meeting and Mr. Wortzman was at least 60,
so if she is alive she is quite old. Her first name may be Reytsa. In 1976
she lived at Forest Ridge Drive, Toronto Ont M6B 1H1.
Here are some of the names scribbled on my convention program:
Feyge Tener, Velvl der Halfan (money exchanger), Shalom Tener, Yidl Tener,
Yakov Grosman. Reytsa Bikov >from Tetiev. daughter of Dobe and Yankl
Grosman, Yakov married Feyge >from Tetiev and moved there. She (?) married
her cousin, Ben Tsiyon who was a hazn. Reytsa's mother came >from
Lukashifke. Mrs. Wortzman also mentioned Yona Tetievsky. Levi Shkolnick
(Eshkol) was a relative. The last name she mentioned was that of Leyzer
Zabaru of Toronto.

It's a long shot, but if any of the above names sound familiar, I should
love to correspond.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

Dr.Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Dr.Joseph M. Schwarcz
Arad, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WEIDENs from Tarnow #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

My husband's pgf, Isak Weiden, was born in Tarnow (Poland) but moved to
Vienna with his wife and children between the wars. He died there in 1940
(thus narrowly escaping the Holocaust); but his wife, children and
grandchildren were deported to Kovno in 1941 along with hundreds of other
Viennese Jews -- all of whom were murdered on arrival and dumped in a mass
grave. Isak Weiden's only surviving grandchild is my husband, who had
escaped >from Vienna on a Kindertransport in 1939. So, please would
anyone named Weiden (especially with ancestors >from Tarnow ) contact me?

One thing we are interested in is whether people >from that family (or
perhaps people named Weiden in general) are of Kohen, Levi or Yisra'el
origin. I remember speaking with a Weiden family 30 years ago in
Jerusalem, who claimed to be Levi'im; but I'd need to hear >from a lot more
Weidens in order to determine whether this is true of Weidens in general.
My grandson is coming up to bar mitzvah age and it would be nice to get
this straightened out (our four sons simply had to assume they were
Yisra'el for want of any information to the contrary!).

Judith Romney Wegner


Citizenship question #general

Mimi Katz <geveret@...>
 

Would an immigrant husband receive citizenship by marrying a native born
wife in 1928?

--
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avoid spam. A link to the correct email address is provided below.
Mimi Katz, Chicago
GeveretK@...


researching town of Krasnosielc #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

I'd like to get in touch with anyone researching Krasnosielc, north of
Warsaw near Chorzele and Przasnysz. I've found some vital records in
Przasnysz and was wondering where else Krasnosielc records have been
found.

Marty Meyers
<meyers01@...>

researching:
BORDOWICZ/BORDOWITZ/BORDOW/BORDO >from
Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk to Boston, NY, Chicago
MEYEROWITZ/MEYERS >from Russia (Vilna area?) to New York/Worcester, Mass
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN >from Austria to Leeds to Mass
LANDSMAN >from Russia to Mass
ZELMANOVICH >from Poland (Przasnysz area?)
[edited to 6 lines allowed- Mod.]


Re: occupation tochain-(tov vov chet nun) #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/29/2001 9:29:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
marty@... writes:

<< Can anyone tell me what the occupation -tochain- (tov vov chet nun)
means? I think it might be related to milling grain. >>

Yes, indeed. tochen is to mill/grind. A mill is "tachanah." Tochen
is a miller--but they're all spelled with an initial tet, not a tav..

Tachanah (>from the verb choneh, to rest a while)--spelled with the
initial tav but pronounced the same--is a station, as in bus- or
railroad- .

Tochen, spelled tet-vav-kaf-nun is an astronomer according to my
dictionary (it maye be a fairly recent word, probably derived >from
kaven--give direction)

I could not find the word you mentioned in my dictionary. I assume our
ancestors were not always great spellers.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


GEVA, MEIROVITZ, and KAGEN in Israel #general

ELandL <e-berkowitz@...>
 

I am looking for a Ariella and Miki GEVA whose last address I have is
on Rehov Akiva, Raanana.

Also I am looking for a Rivka and Yisroel MEIROVITZ whose address was
on Rehov Gilboa in Givatiim.

Both Ariella and Rivka were daughters of Bella who died in 1973.
Bella had a sister, Mania KAGEN who had three children, a son Yisroel
and two daughters Tzaffi and Ora.

The mother of Bella and Mania was the sister of my great grandmother
Sara Katz Berkowitz.

I can receive and understand an e-mail in Hebrew though I cannot send
an e-mail in Hebrew.

Linda Berkowitz

Also searching for: BERKOWITZ, KATZ, MAGID, LEADERS, BALAS


Re: ben Yisroel #general

Sally <sallybru@...>
 

There are several possibilities as to why the gravestone would say ben
Yisroel and a revision list ben Hirsch. Some you have mentioned. (another
person, son of the nation Israel as opposed to Levites and Cohanim), but
there is another- if Elias died and no one remembered his father's name
correctly, they might have thought it was Yisroel or guessed.

It was not uncommon if the person immigrated and died many years after
anyone who knew his parents' names-if his wife was >from somewhere else
and they married in the US, she might not know, or she might have died
earlier-then they put the wrong name on his grave. It amazes me that
people do not know their grandparents' names even without an ocean
separation. My Mother did not know (in her old age, anyway) that her
middle name was >from her grandmother, that her son's name was her
grandfather's name. My Aunt Merle did not know (in her old age) that her
grandmother was also Merle. Neither of these women was senile, by any
stretch-they just hadn't thought about their grandparents who died when
they were small (I guess).

As a genealogist, I can't understand that if I say to Merle: "Your
grandmother, did this", I get the response "Who?"

"The one you were named after", I replied-and Merle said "I wasn't named
after anyone."

Merle, my great grandmother is buried with her husband here in town.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Philadelphia -- SOBEL/SOBLE #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

A cousin of mine, in search of her SOBEL/SOBLE roots, is
looking for a professional researcher in Philadelphia.
If you are one, or know one, please contact me directly,
at dkazez@....

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Springfield, Ohio USA
TALMAN in Plawno, Radomsko, Piotrkow, & Zgierz. OFMAN in Radomsko.
ENGLANDER and BRODA in Czestochowa, Przyrow, Mstow, & Janow.
KAZEZ-KAZES-CAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB in Turkey.
OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL in Ukraine.
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Citizenship question #general

Mimi Katz <geveret@...>
 

Would an immigrant husband receive citizenship by marrying a native born
wife in 1928?

--
Please do not click reply to sender. Email address has been altered to
avoid spam. A link to the correct email address is provided below.
Mimi Katz, Chicago
GeveretK@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen researching town of Krasnosielc #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

I'd like to get in touch with anyone researching Krasnosielc, north of
Warsaw near Chorzele and Przasnysz. I've found some vital records in
Przasnysz and was wondering where else Krasnosielc records have been
found.

Marty Meyers
<meyers01@...>

researching:
BORDOWICZ/BORDOWITZ/BORDOW/BORDO >from
Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk to Boston, NY, Chicago
MEYEROWITZ/MEYERS >from Russia (Vilna area?) to New York/Worcester, Mass
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN >from Austria to Leeds to Mass
LANDSMAN >from Russia to Mass
ZELMANOVICH >from Poland (Przasnysz area?)
[edited to 6 lines allowed- Mod.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: occupation tochain-(tov vov chet nun) #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/29/2001 9:29:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
marty@... writes:

<< Can anyone tell me what the occupation -tochain- (tov vov chet nun)
means? I think it might be related to milling grain. >>

Yes, indeed. tochen is to mill/grind. A mill is "tachanah." Tochen
is a miller--but they're all spelled with an initial tet, not a tav..

Tachanah (>from the verb choneh, to rest a while)--spelled with the
initial tav but pronounced the same--is a station, as in bus- or
railroad- .

Tochen, spelled tet-vav-kaf-nun is an astronomer according to my
dictionary (it maye be a fairly recent word, probably derived >from
kaven--give direction)

I could not find the word you mentioned in my dictionary. I assume our
ancestors were not always great spellers.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GEVA, MEIROVITZ, and KAGEN in Israel #general

ELandL <e-berkowitz@...>
 

I am looking for a Ariella and Miki GEVA whose last address I have is
on Rehov Akiva, Raanana.

Also I am looking for a Rivka and Yisroel MEIROVITZ whose address was
on Rehov Gilboa in Givatiim.

Both Ariella and Rivka were daughters of Bella who died in 1973.
Bella had a sister, Mania KAGEN who had three children, a son Yisroel
and two daughters Tzaffi and Ora.

The mother of Bella and Mania was the sister of my great grandmother
Sara Katz Berkowitz.

I can receive and understand an e-mail in Hebrew though I cannot send
an e-mail in Hebrew.

Linda Berkowitz

Also searching for: BERKOWITZ, KATZ, MAGID, LEADERS, BALAS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ben Yisroel #general

Sally <sallybru@...>
 

There are several possibilities as to why the gravestone would say ben
Yisroel and a revision list ben Hirsch. Some you have mentioned. (another
person, son of the nation Israel as opposed to Levites and Cohanim), but
there is another- if Elias died and no one remembered his father's name
correctly, they might have thought it was Yisroel or guessed.

It was not uncommon if the person immigrated and died many years after
anyone who knew his parents' names-if his wife was >from somewhere else
and they married in the US, she might not know, or she might have died
earlier-then they put the wrong name on his grave. It amazes me that
people do not know their grandparents' names even without an ocean
separation. My Mother did not know (in her old age, anyway) that her
middle name was >from her grandmother, that her son's name was her
grandfather's name. My Aunt Merle did not know (in her old age) that her
grandmother was also Merle. Neither of these women was senile, by any
stretch-they just hadn't thought about their grandparents who died when
they were small (I guess).

As a genealogist, I can't understand that if I say to Merle: "Your
grandmother, did this", I get the response "Who?"

"The one you were named after", I replied-and Merle said "I wasn't named
after anyone."

Merle, my great grandmother is buried with her husband here in town.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia -- SOBEL/SOBLE #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

A cousin of mine, in search of her SOBEL/SOBLE roots, is
looking for a professional researcher in Philadelphia.
If you are one, or know one, please contact me directly,
at dkazez@....

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
Springfield, Ohio USA
TALMAN in Plawno, Radomsko, Piotrkow, & Zgierz. OFMAN in Radomsko.
ENGLANDER and BRODA in Czestochowa, Przyrow, Mstow, & Janow.
KAZEZ-KAZES-CAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB in Turkey.
OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL in Ukraine.
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html