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Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

JoAnne Goldberg
 

I am so happy to see this lawsuit. Ancestry does notify customers that
it will auto-renew their subscription way before it expires -- this
year, for me, it was five weeks in advance. They don't make it clear
that you will continue to have access to your account until the
expiration date, so I'd guess many people put it off and then forget,
and they don't send out another notice when they do renew.

Yes, they will remove the charge if you call them, but that's a hassle.
The 2018 California law that prevents most auto-renewals and requires
companies to let consumers cancel online should be extended to all states.

Since my subscription expired last spring, I have been using my
library's remote access subscription, and with all the money I am
saving, I am tempted to pony up for MyHeritage. I've never been
impressed by MH but some of your comments have motivated me to take a
closer look.
--
JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN,  DANIEL  -- Rhineland, Germany

 


Experience with Romanian records #romania #records

Alicia Weiss
 

Greetings,

When doing a JewishGen search for my great-grandfather from Szecseny, Nograd megye, Hungary, I recently found a record of possible interest in the Hungarian Births.  The individual is listed as having been born in Szecseny, but registered in Arad (now in  Romania).  The record repository is Romanian National Archives and record set Synagogue Reg. 1.  
Can some kind soul experienced with Romanian records please advise if it is possible to view this record set online and if not, the best way to access it?

Many thanks

Alicia Weiss
Researching: WEISS/WEISZ Szecseny, Hungary; KUNDLER, Kaposmero/Kisvarda/Gyongyos/Budapest, Hungary; POLLAK, Kaposmero/Csurgo, Hungary;PRESSMAN/PRESEISEN, Kiev, Ukraine; GOLDFELD, Russia; Dufine/Dufan/Dufayn, Orgeev Moldova/ Tuchin Ukraine; MAUTHNER/MAUTNER, Szecseny, Hungary, HEMPEL/HAMPEL, Poland.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Lisa Liel
 

I'm aware of this, and you have a right to accept that at face value.  For the record, I do.  But I also know that there are a lot of Jews who would *not* be okay with that, and suggesting to Jews that they post their family trees on FamilySearch without letting them know as well the use that may be made of that information is unfair.  I don't know why anyone would want to keep that information from people.

Lisa


On 8/2/2020 9:53 PM, Barbara Mannlein wrote:

What do you mean, Lisa?

Are you worried about posthumous baptism? The purpose is to ensure that ancestors can join church members in the afterlife. Individual Mormons submit to the church the names of persons they wish to have baptized, then undergo baptism“by proxy.”  The LDS believe that the baptism must be accepted by the person baptized, so if you know that your ancestors would not accept being baptized, you have no concerns.  

    "Each individual has agency, or the right to choose. The validity of a baptism for the dead depends on the deceased person accepting it and choosing to accept and follow the Savior while residing in the spirit world. The names of deceased persons are not added to the membership records of the Church."

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


On Aug 2, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Lisa Liel <lisa@...> wrote:
Or, you know, don't, if you have any concerns about what the Mormon Church will do with records of your ancestors.
_._,_._,_
Build your family tree on Family Search's Family Tree site.  This LDS collaboartive tree site is totally free and claims it's the largest family tree and still growing.
James Castellan
Rose Valley, PA




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Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 


What do you mean, Lisa?

Are you worried about posthumous baptism? The purpose is to ensure that ancestors can join church members in the afterlife. Individual Mormons submit to the church the names of persons they wish to have baptized, then undergo baptism“by proxy.”  The LDS believe that the baptism must be accepted by the person baptized, so if you know that your ancestors would not accept being baptized, you have no concerns.  

    "Each individual has agency, or the right to choose. The validity of a baptism for the dead depends on the deceased person accepting it and choosing to accept and follow the Savior while residing in the spirit world. The names of deceased persons are not added to the membership records of the Church."

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


On Aug 2, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Lisa Liel <lisa@...> wrote:
Or, you know, don't, if you have any concerns about what the Mormon Church will do with records of your ancestors.
_._,_._,_
Build your family tree on Family Search's Family Tree site.  This LDS collaboartive tree site is totally free and claims it's the largest family tree and still growing.
James Castellan
Rose Valley, PA



Re: Back and forth to Russia #records

Eva Lawrence
 

Surely the thread 'Back and forth to Russia' should be forwarded to all
the genealogy sites we've been evaluating, to show that there is
demand for passenger manifests for ships going eastward across the
Atlantic to be digitised and put online, and not only ships to Russia,
but to all the other European ports.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK


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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

malka_f1
 

I have two questions re the Russian Census 1897. 
 
1.  Unless someone tells me otherwise, can I assume that the Russian census 1897 includes that part of Poland known variously as 'The Kingdom of Poland', 'Russian Poland' and 'Congress of Poland' which was part of the 19th century Tsarist Russian Empire until 1918?
 
2.  If the answer is affirmative ie that Russian Poland/Congress Poland was part of the Russian Empire, where is the Census held and how do I access it?
 
My interest is in the town of Warka (Yiddish Vurke, Russian Варка). about 25 miles south east of Warsaw and I believe was part of the Warsaw administrative area.  
 
In anticipation of information, thank you.
Regards
Malka Flekier, London, UK
PS: I can read cyrillic.
 


Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

Stanley Diamond
 

 
In addition those listed below, the 1897 Russian Census survived for many towns in
the proximity of the city of  Łomża.  There are more than 14,000 entries in this source.   
 
These are searchable online using the https://jri-poland.org/ multi-function search system.

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
 
1a. 
Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia
From: peggyfreedman@...
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 09:25:12 EDT
This question is more complicated than it looks.

The 1897 All Russia Census was not saved the way that American Census records have been saved with the total of census questionnaires still in the archives.

Copies of the 1897 All Russia Census were kept both locally and also by the Central Census Bureau in St. Petersburg.  But the 1897 Russian Census was taken for statistical purposes, and after the data had been analyzed, most of it was destroyed, only ten percent of the records were kept for statistical reference.

Several groups have found and transcribed the remaining ten percent of the records in the local archives (Lithuania, Latvia, and Grodno are the ones that I know about).  Those records are on JewishGen. But other records may be available in other local archives, or, possibly in whatever became of the Central Census Bureau in Imperial Russia.

The 1897 Russian Census is a wonderful resource for the places where the information was preserved, but not finding a family in it may only mean that those records were destroyed.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
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Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

LarryBassist@...
 

I received a lot of images of Kiev and Vinnitsia records from https://jewua.info/jewish-genealogy-search-at-ukraine/ 
I think you can sign up and do some basic searches for free. Then if you pay they will let you do searches that show more information for more money they will send you images and for additional fees send translations. However I think most of Kiev and Vinnitsia images are available for free from Alex Krakovsky's website: https://www.tkfgen.org/open_sources_ak_p01.html 
He just gave an excellent webinar for JewishGen. There he discussed his Wikipedia website: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%BE 
There you can click on translate to English if you have a modern browser. So it is much easier to use than the other one I gave.
Good luck,
Larry Bassist


Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

Gary Pokrassa
 

Ella there is an entire wiki page posted by Alex Krakovsky for the 1897 census from the Kiev province at https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B8/%D0%94%D0%90%D0%9A%D0%9E/384

Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division


Searching records in New Haven, Connecticut #records

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,
 
I am researching my husband's maternal family who immigrated to New Haven (and surrounding areas), Connecticut in the 1890s and remained for several generations.  Anyone have suggestions locating  older death, birth, marriage certificates, naturalization records, obituaries?   Many of his relatives are buried at  Congregation Bnai Jacob Cemetery. Is anyone going there by chance, who can take pictures?
 
His Great Grandfather was Israel Noah Halper  (born 1860s and died 1915) married to Rose Nee Mattes.    I believe he was the son of William and Hannah, who also lived in New Haven.  Trying to prove that as my first step.  
 
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
 
Thank you!
 
Shelly Levin
Northern California
Researching: 
 FEFFER, HALPER, WOLFER,


Re: given name "Slawa"? #names #poland

Madeleine Isenberg
 

From my collection of births in parts of Slovakia, somewhat south of Galicia, Slawa, written in Hebrew letters as either, סלאווא or סלאווע appears to have been a given "holy name"  for someone with the following secular names: Szeren, Sali, Charlotte (Lotti).  It was not a common name, occurring only 7 times out of my almost 6000 list of births.

Hope this helps a bit,
--
Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@...
Beverly Hills, CA
 
Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland
(Nowy Targ, Nowy Sanz, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lapuszna, Krakow, Ochotnica) who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby towns in northern Slovakia and Czech Republic (i.e., those who lived/had businesses in Moravska Ostrava);
GOLDSTEIN in Sena or Szina, Szkaros and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva and Tokaj, Hungary.


Re: Need help interpreting ship manifest #records

Odeda Zlotnick
 

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 08:37 AM, <vkreynin@...> wrote:
Sitnisky
I can only help you because I found the manifest elsewhere, the image you uploaded is illegible....
  1. Column 2 (Given Name) for the daughter: Chawe
  2. Column 6 (Calling or Occupation) again for the daughter: Milliner
  3. Column 11. Wife: Sule Sitnitzka [not sure of the given name] - this information refers to both Morris and Chawe - note the bracket in front of the text.; The father's name on the next line refers to the next passenger, it's Uscher Schucker.

Odeda


Re: Need help interpreting ship manifest #records

Susan&David
 

SS Kursk from Libau arrived NY March 16, 1914.   Ancestry.com image 79
They are passengers #20  and #21 on  the manifest, Group 13.   Daughter's name is Chawe (W is pronounced V ) She is a milliner.
Wife's name is Si?le (maybe Sisle)  Sitnitzka.      
The father's name in column 11 belongs to passenger #22, not to Chawe. Here father is Moschko

David Rosen
Boston, MA
 

On 8/2/2020 7:54 AM, vkreynin@... wrote:

I'm having a difficult time reading this script. I would appreciate your help in interpreting the writing. It's for Sitnisky Moschko (Morris) and his daughter.

  1. Column 2 (Given Name) for the daughter.
  2. Column 6 (Calling or Occupation) again for the daughter.
  3. Column 11. I cannot read the wife's and father's names.



Thank you for your help.


Re: Jewish Legion WW1 #canada

e.tait199@...
 

I agree that the book by Martin Watts is very good.

My grandfather, Abraham Tattenbaum who was born in Newcastle, joined HM Forces in early 1917.  He was accepted for service in the 15th Battalion, London Regiment (Prince of Wales' Own Civil Service Rifles).  In February 1918, he transferred to the 39th Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers.

Emma Tait
London


Re: Mt. Sharon Cemetery #general

igraffman
 

Amusing story. 

About 15 years ago went looking for Mt Lebanon Cemetery and drove in via Har Zion without knowing it.  Found connecting road to Mt Lebanon,  found my family plots.  Went to office to ask where Har Zion was.   They didn't know!  Thanked them anyway,  found the connecting road and then the office.   Asked the elderly gentleman "is this Har Zion Cemetery "?  He replied "I should hope so, I've been here 40 years!".

Hope this is appropriate for this group.


Jewish Religious Personnel in the Russian Empire, 1853-1854 #general #russia

Elise Cundiff
 

Is anyone very familiar with this book?   The index to the original, by a Herbert Lazerow,  is available  (the NYPL has kindly sent me the pages I am interested in) , but I am wondering if the original by Genrich Deych has been translated and is available anywhere?

The description on JewishGen sounds like there is more information in the original for each entry.   I think that I may have found an ancestor in the index, but not sure without seeing a bit more information.


Re: JewishGen Research Divisions #records

Jrbaston
 

In answer to Beverly's question, LitvakSIG, which is an independent organization whose database and discussion group are hosted by JewishGen, still continues to have its discussion group on the Lyris system for the present. If you are a subscriber to the LitvakSIG discussion group, you should be receiving messages.

LitvakSIG is still a Special Interest Group (SIG) and not a Research Division.

Judy Baston, Moderator,
LitvakSIG Discussion Group


Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Judi Wagner
 

Sherri,

I have just found another Eliane HIRSCHFELD, that arrived in the same year, 1940, but in August instead of April.  She came with her family, father Oscar, born Frastal ? Hungary, mother, Blanchette, born Lausanne Switzerland, Eliane, 14 years, born Strassburg France and Gerard, 11, also born Strassburg France.  Wasn't someone else looking for the name HIRSCHFELD, and with the town Strassburg?  They were coming from Mr Ern. Brunswig in Bordeaux,  France and going to Mr Henry Levi in Brooklyn.  Pencilled in is the  wording: nephew Irving Rechtsintzer ( not sure of spelling). Maybe there is some connection, and the girls are both named after the same relative.

Now, how would I know which Eliane the naturalization papers would refer to?  Is Southern District Court, Manhattan? Brooklyn?
Would it be possible to find the naturalization online, not just the index?  Then it should list the rest of the family info. 

now that we are not getting a hurricane, and we worked all day yesterday to bring in our patio and outdoor furniture, sculpture, mobile, bird bath and bird feeders, etc, we can relax and work on genealogy :-)

Judi


Names of people buried in Timisoara, Romania, Cemetery #romania

Mike Grossman
 

I believe that my maternal ggrandmother Paulina MARCUS is buried in the Timisoara, Romania, cemetery on Celea Sever Bocu (seen on JOWBR). Comments give the source as CET register Vol_2 REG_1 Page 78. 
Any suggests on how I can get to the source (or a list of those buried there) to verify the date of death?
Thanks.
--
Mike Grossman
Urbana, Illinois, USA
BERCOVICI / BERKOWITZ, Romania
GROSZMANN / GROSSMAN, Tolcsva, Hungary


Re: Lithuania - Soloveitchik Brothers with Same Given Name #lithuania

Irwin Keller
 

Hello Perry,

That's an interesting bit about children taking their mother's name. I know that often to distinguish between cousins of the same name, probably named after the same recently deceased ancestor, they'd be identified by their mother's given name. Thus giving rise to Jewish surnames like Dvorkin, Chaikin, Sorkin, Rivkin, Rachlin, Estrin, etc., that are all women's names in a genitive case.

But is there something else going on here? I have relatives who also came from Soloveitchiks on their great grandmother's side, whose great grandfather took his wife's name when they reached Chicago. (There they made it Solovy.) I always presumed that her name had more prestige, or was easier for Americans than his difficult name (Knishevitsky). But your "Shorris" story makes me wonder if there was some naming custom alive in the Soloveitchik clan that made taking a mother's surname more common somehow...

I get that there's a difference between being referred to as your mother's before the era of surnames, and consciously choosing your mother's (or wife's) surname after the era of surnames. 

Still, your story, specifically as a Soloveitchik whose family chose Shorris, made my mind start to wonder...