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Re: How they traveled #romania #russia #usa

peggyfreedman@...
 

I was given a memoir by a cousin whose father was hired as a "raft worker."  He helped take timber from the forests in Lithuania to a port by working on a raft about 1892.  It is the only time that I've heard of floating downstream to get to a port city, but he describes crossing the Russian-German border and having his passport approved.

I think that there were lots of ways to travel, we just don't know about all of them!

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
www.peggyspage.org


Re: How did they meet? #ukraine, #general

jbonline1111@...
 

If this was an arranged marriage, then there are any manner of ways in which he might have learned of his future wife, including mutual friends or perhaps family living in CT.  I know of a happy modern arranged marriage between a woman who was raised in Los Angeles to a man who was raised in New York.  
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: how to find death marriage and birth records for Munkacs, Hungary/Czechoslavakia #hungary #records

Vivian Kahn
 

I suggest that you start by contacting Lara Diamond, JewishGen's Sub-Carpathian Research Director at ldiamond@....  The Sub-Carpathian database, which is described at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/SubCarpathia.htm includes records from the Munkacs area for these years.

Vivian Kahn
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director


Moscow 19th Century Jewish Research #russia #records

abbyschmelling@...
 

I am researching a Jewish family of distillers in Moscow who had to leave in 1891 when the Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich became Governor General of Moscow whose goal was “to save Moscow from the Jews”. The family went to Hamburg where they left the following January 1892 for the United States. Are there any records to research for their lives before they left or how to determine how they got to Moscow and from where? 
--
Abby Cohen Schmelling


Re: Jewish family name Williams in NY State origin in the old coutry ( Suspect Suwalk/Suwalki #usa #russia #lithuania #poland

Lin Mor
 

I live a 90 or so minute easy ride from Utica, would be willing to go there in the spring (we just had over 2' of snow). Please do find out the details and feel free to contact me again.

Linda Cohen Morzillo,
Saratoga Springs NY


Re: 1899 Psychiatric Diagnosis #records #usa

jel
 

Sherri,
In 1880 the family lived in Alachua County, FL. In the U.S. Census of the same year, the young man in question was 15 yrs old and listed as attending school with his siblings, strongly suggesting he was not intellectually or physically challenged at that time (when there was no Special Ed). The father died in July 1899 in NJ. Between 1880 and 1899, they had moved to NJ. I don't know exactly when, but the 1885 NJ State Census does not show the family in NJ, except for the oldest son who moved to NJ some years before the rest of the family followed. The best guess is that the family move occurred between 1885 and 1889, the time of the commitment. Unfortunately, as we know, the 1890 U.S. census was mostly destroyed in a fire.
Regards,
Judith Lipmanson

Smyrna, DE USA


help deciphering name #names #translation

Aline Petzold
 

Hello all:

 I am wondering if someone can help me decipher the signature  on  a postcard written to my grandmother in 1914?  The lines before it are from a poem and are in German. Apparently there are three different types of handwriting: Sütterlin, Fraktur and Kurrent...
Thanks,
Aline Petzold

St. Paul MN


Re: Wolk family #lithuania

David Wolk
 

Thanks for the various pieces of information, some of which I was aware.  Hope you will understand when I say that the ancestral waters have become very cloudy.  Hyman's brother, Louis, emigrated to South Africa where he eventually died.  I have seen reliable documents showing that Louis was born in Petkunai.  Perhaps mistakenly, given the absence of any other details, I assumed that Hyman was also born in that village.  What I did not find in any documentation on Louis were the names of his parents.  I do know, however, that he was definitely Hyman's brother.  During the early 1950s Louis sailed from Cape Town to New York where, for the first time in nearly 50 years, he had a reunion with Hyman's widow (Sarah) and at least three of her children (Charles, Louis and Ida).  Some of her other children may also have been there but I have no evidence of it.  During that trip I believe Louis also met with his brother George and sister Helen, the latter being the sister who emigrated to the U.S..  I know only that this sister married and lived somewhere in Minnesota.  My knowledge of Hyman's brother George is also scant, largely the result of my father's lifetime silence about his ancestors.

If Morris and Lillian(nee Levinson) Wolk were Hyman's parents, then the picture is confused by Max and Lena(Bresky) Wolk whose son Morris (born sometime between 1874 and 1880 depending on which document is referenced) emigrated to the U.S. (Worcester, Mass.) in the first few years of the 1900s.  In 1908 Morris's mother, Lena (or Leba) made the journey to Worcester.  She was then 62 years old and it appears she died about five years later.  I am increasingly convinced that Morris was a brother to Hyman and, if so, this may explain why Hyman went to Worcester soon after landing in America.

I am awaiting contact by a relative of Morris and Lena - it is my understanding he has more information on the Wolk family tree.  This may help to clear the water.  I'll be happy to let you know when I find something.

David Wolk


Re: How they traveled #romania #russia #usa

mandy.molava@...
 

This is so interesting, my great grandparents travelled early 1900's came to live in England, but the brothers all USA, so I've been trying to imagine what journey they would have had.

Not sure if anyone has been to any of the Ancestry conferences, they only had an England travel talk, I might contact them to try and include this in the next conference which is online next year USA.

Mandy Molava


Re: Life in Lodz #lodz

Sharon E Siegel
 

Thank you so much, Arthur.  I am going to check this book now.
I am so looking for photos of what Lodz was like then during the war and prior. Also, descriptions of life there.  I will check this book for sure. Thanks so much, Sharon
--
Sharon E. Siegel 
Port Jervis, NY USA


Re: how to find death marriage and birth records for Munkacs, Hungary/Czechoslavakia #hungary #records

Friedman116@...
 

Hi,
Try contacting Mr. Huber from Ungvar. Hi is a local researcher and guide. 
His email huberbelay@... 
Other contact information you can find on the jewish gen researchers list. 

Good luck 

Mark Friedman


Re: Civil Marriage in France, 1927 #records #france

pascale.hollande@...
 

Malka,

They were required to have a civil marriage. You can search

here for Sarreguemines
num.archives57.com/visualiseur/index.php/docnumViewer/calculHierarchieDocNum/699760/698861:703333:699760/1200/1920

here for Strasbourg
http://archives.bas-rhin.fr/registres-paroissiaux-et-documents-d-etat-civil/ETAT-CIVIL-C478#tables_decennales
or https://archives.strasbourg.eu/archive/resultats/etatcivil/resultat/FRAMC67482_0011_3E/n:238?RECH_unitdate_exacte=1927&type=etatcivil


Decennial tables (in alphabetic order), will give you the date. When you have the date, you can ask a full copy at the city Hall

Sarreguemines : https://www.sarreguemines.fr/page/32-actes-detat-civil

Strasbourg : https://www.strasbourg.eu/contact-service-etat-civil

Regards,
Pascale Hollande
Haute-Savoie, France


Re: Paternal grandparents Ancestral Town in (?) Russia #russia

pathetiq1@...
 


Hi Ellen, 

This is the place  you are looking for,

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Community.php?usbgn=-1952659

--
Giannis Daropoulos 

Greece


Re: Life in Lodz #lodz

astupay@...
 

Dear Sharon, My uncle, Dr. Jacob Stupay, his wife and two children lived in Lodz from the early 1920s until the war. He returned to Lodz from Krakow alone, losing his family, and lived there from 1945 until,his death in 1955. I have written about him and his life in Lodz. The title of my book is "Hope Expired, Life Persists", published by the University of Lodz in 2014. It is in English and available on Amazon. Lodz was and is an amazing city with a major university, museums, and a vibrant culture that the Nazi's destroyed during the war. It has made some strides to recover its place in Poland and has an excellent Jewish Studies Center at University of Lodz.  Let me know how I can help. Arthur Stupay, USA


Re: Wolk family #lithuania

pathetiq1@...
 

Hi David, 

Here is Hyman's death certificate.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X83Z-7GD

The names of his parents were Morris Wolk and Lillian Levinson. Obviously the names were anglicized. The informant was his son Louis. 

Here is his grave, i believe that on the stone you will find the Hebrew name of his father. 
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141098208/hyman-david-wolk

Regarding the information Sherri gave you, i believe  that the place in which  Lena's  daughter was living,  was Pilvishok, Suwalki gubernia (now Lithuania). 

Notice also that, according to the passenger list, Lena's last residence was Petkuny, and her birthplace was Krakinovo. 
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Community.php?usbgn=-2615751

May i ask what was your source about Hyman's birthplace (Petkunai)?  Do you know the name of the sister that also emigrated to the US? 

Giannis Daropoulos 

Greece


Re: How they traveled #romania #russia #usa

Peninah Zilberman
 

They travelled by many times hoping in different wagons, sometimes by train, either bought a ticket, or someone gave them....and Yes, by walking...they were looking at the end result ...the light at the end of the tunnel..."America The Goldene Medina"...America the country of Gold!
 
Hard to believe for us because of our upbringing, but these were our family members Very Determined...may they rest in Peace.

Fundatia Tarbut Sighet

www.ftsighet.com


Paternal grandparents Ancestral Town in (?) Russia #russia

eihonig02@...
 

My paternal great-grandparents and grandparents came from Sitcowitz/ Zytkiewicze, Russia(?).
Their names were BERELPORTNOY/PORTNOY 7 ESTHER PORTNOY/PORTNOJ
WILLIAM PORTNOY/PORTNOJ
I am trying to locate the town they came from in Russia, history and current day.
I am also hoping to find the cemetery my great-grandfather was buried in: YOSEF PORTNOY/PORTNOJ

Thank you
Ellen Honig


Re: Finding Jewish Birth records for Calau, Germany #germany #records

Andreas Schwab
 

If you are researching Calau, you might want to contact Sylvia Kolley who has done a lot of research about the Jewish history in the area and is also the author of the web site I mentioned earlier:
Sylvia Kolley
Luckauer Str. 57
15926 Heideblick
Telefon: +49 (0)35454 181990
Kontakt
--

Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada


Re: Finding Jewish Birth records for Calau, Germany #germany #records

Andreas Schwab
 

This web site (in German) is dedicated to the history of the Jews of the Niederlausitz region, which contains Calau:
http://www.luckauer-juden.de
You will find several pages about the history of the Jews in the region.
A list of names is found here:
A-L: http://www.luckauer-juden.de/nvz1.html
M-Z: http://www.luckauer-juden.de/nvz2.html

The birth records up to September 1874 will be at the Brandesburgisches Landeshauptarchiv. The archives are closed due to COVID-19 and will not be opened before January. They can only be used in person, and the documents will have to be ordered in advance.
https://blha.brandenburg.de
https://blha.brandenburg.de/index.php/benutzung/familienkundliche-anfragen/

Those from October 1874 and later will be at the  Archives of the Oberspreewald-Lausitz district. 

Bürgerbüro

Landkreis Oberspreewald-Lausitz

 

Dubinaweg 1
01968 Senftenberg

Telefon: (03573) 8700

Fax: (03573) 870-1010

E-Mail: poststelle@...

--
Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada


Re: How they traveled #romania #russia #usa

Susan&David
 

I have a similar story,  told to me by my father. He emigrated from a town in Poland in 1913 as a sixteen year old, was hidden in a hay wagon and taken over the German border to a nearby railroad station. He took a train to Hamburg. From there by ship  to the East Coast of England, then by train to Liverpool. Then to Boston.  He said he had a great time during this whole adventure.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 12/18/2020 3:10 PM, jbonline1111@... wrote:
According to my family lore, my grandfather and his uncle escaped Russia (from what is now Belarus) by hiding in a hay wagon.  However, there are no details as to how far that wagon carried them and how they then got to Hamburg, where they took a ship to America.  My grandfather was about 12 at the time.

Barbara Sloan

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