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The Jews of Panevezys and Kupiskis, Lithuania. #lithuania

gordberger@sympatico.ca
 

Does anyone know what happened to the majority of the Jews in these towns during WWll?


Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

peggyfreedman@...
 

This question is more complicated than it looks.

The 1897 All Russia Census was not saved the way that American Census records have been saved with the total of census questionnaires still in the archives.

Copies of the 1897 All Russia Census were kept both locally and also by the Central Census Bureau in St. Petersburg.  But the 1897 Russian Census was taken for statistical purposes, and after the data had been analyzed, most of it was destroyed, only ten percent of the records were kept for statistical reference.

Several groups have found and transcribed the remaining ten percent of the records in the local archives (Lithuania, Latvia, and Grodno are the ones that I know about).  Those records are on JewishGen. But other records may be available in other local archives, or, possibly in whatever became of the Central Census Bureau in Imperial Russia.

The 1897 Russian Census is a wonderful resource for the places where the information was preserved, but not finding a family in it may only mean that those records were destroyed.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman


Need help interpreting ship manifest #records

vkreynin@...
 

I'm having a difficult time reading this script. I would appreciate your help in interpreting the writing. It's for Sitnisky Moschko (Morris) and his daughter.

  1. Column 2 (Given Name) for the daughter.
  2. Column 6 (Calling or Occupation) again for the daughter.
  3. Column 11. I cannot read the wife's and father's names.



Thank you for your help.


Brick wall: FRIEDSON'S, AISENBERG'S and SAMURIN'S from western Massachusetts #usa

Bob Silverstein
 

These families came to Fitchburg, Gardner, Athol, Worcester in western Massachusetts starting around 1907.  The Friedson's moved on to Springfield and some of the Aisenberg's moved to Leomister.  I know through DNA and family stories and pictures that the Friedson's and Aisenberg's were cousins.  Samurin was an alternative name used in Pinsk and may or may not have been used here.  We cannot find out how the families are related and would appreciate any and all help.

My second question is why did Jews settle in that area.

Thanks for the help,
Bob Silverstein
bobsilverstein@...


Re: Family tree data and Information in Istanbul, Turkey #sephardic

Metin Delevi
 

Dear Mr. Kazes, 

To use this application :
a. you have to be a Turkish citizen with a Turkish id. no.
b.you have to apply for an official password.

In fact once you request, it gives a family tree ( a family tree which begins with mother & father and goes up).  They translated and put on-line the ottoman census records up to the beginning of the 19th century.

Metin Delevi

Istanbul - Turkey


Re: Mt. Sharon Cemetery #general

Kenneth Ryesky
 

As noted in the discussion thread (which seems to have been excluded from the particular JewishGen Discussion Group Digest installment), the relevant Mount Sharon Cemetery is in Springfield Township, Delaware County, Pennsylvania, USA, North America, Planet Earth, Solar System, Milky Way Galaxy.
 
The relevant Mt. Lebanon Cemetery is nearby in Collingdale, Delaware County, etc. (at least the office is in Collingdale; most of the land is located in Darby Township, Delaware County, etc.).
 
-- Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
 

--
Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...


Re: ProQuest #ciechanow #records #poland

Bob Silverstein
 

If you cannot find anyone with Proquest, I can try on newspapers.com.

bobsilvestein@...


Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

Bob Silverstein
 

Two points.  Every free trial I have seen requires a credit card.  If I do take the teaser, I mark my schedule at the end of the trial so I can cancel it.  I do not think what these websites do is bad but two-faced.  On one hand, they are hoping you forget so they will ding you but then again, they offer you the convenience of starting the paid subscription.  Nonetheless, the ethical thing to do is not to require a credit card up front but to pester you as the free trial ends.

Second point.  Terms.  The courts know that no one reads them, that they are written by and for the benefit of website, not the user, they are non-negotiable and they are coercive.  You cannot use the site unless you accept its terms.  The practice is just about universal.  We certainly need reform for both practices.

Caveat emptor!


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Eva Lawrence
 

This is a really  valid point. There is no need to be tied to one site or the other if you keep your own records on your computer. The difference between the sites has always been that MH  offers primarily user-generated information, while Ancestry has provided a search engine based on indexed primary records, but now each of the sites is  trying to enter the other's field.. Geni, too, consists of user-generated records, but they are moderated,  unlike MH's, because they are (in theory) part of one single tree. Since it was acquired by MH, its benefits are  gradually being withdrawn from non- subscribers.  
I'd say that for someone starting out, Ancestry's record-based approach,  while not as exciting would be a better discipline, but they seem to have abandoned it.  Now their main advantage is their larger set of long-term subscribers and well-known name give a better chance of a DNA match. 
It does depend on what you're looking for, and threads like this one are a real help.
 
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK


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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: Please help with translation of marriage certificate in Russian from Markuszow, Lublin, Poland #poland #russia #translation

Dr.Josef ASH
 

marriage (and the registration) 
On Feb 5/17, 1876 in Markushev settlement
Groom: Elya GOLDZIKHER, single, 27 yo,, privat of the Taurus regimen # 131  on leave, who was born in Kurov settlement, son of Khaim and Sura-Khana nee GOLEVAYA, the GOLDZIKHER family
Bride: Khaya Rifka NIRENSHTEIN, unmarried, 17 yo (the age is added on left side) who was born and  resides wit her mother in Markushev, d/o the late Khilya and Khinda nee Taub thr NIRENSHTEJN family.
no parents' ages
Mazltov!
Josef ASH, Israel 


Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

David Ellis
 

I had a similar problem with MyHeritage.  They offered a one year "premium plus" subscription at a heavily discounted price ($150 instead of the full $300 price).  I submitted payment details and paid gladly.  One year later, they charged my credit card $300 for a renewal I didn't request.  

This appears to be a fairly widespread practice with online services as well.


Re: Need Information on Aharon WOLLNER fm Beregsurany #hungary

Friedman116@...
 

Try contacting Baruch Huber from Ungvar. Sure he will be able to help you. 
His email: huberbelay@...


Re: Hedwig, Sophie and Alice KASSEL in Uruguay #germany #latinamerica

Carol Sage-Silverstein
 

I can ask my cousin who lives in Montivideo.  Her grandmother moved there from Poland in the 1930’s as well.


Re: Kreindler / Kriendler town of origin in Galicia #galicia

ROBERT WEISS
 

I can’t help you in your search, but as an interesting side fact, Carl KREINDLER’s daughter was a midwife who delivered my father and his two brothers between 1903-7.
 
Bob Weiss
 
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Kreindler / Kriendler town of origin in Galicia #galicia 
From: Simon Kreindler
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:56:11 EDT 
 

I have documented my KREINDLER line back to my GG Grandfather, Simon Kreindler, who was born in 1790 in Solotwina, a shtetl in the Austro-Hungarian Empire not far from Stanislawow (today it is Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine).

 

Although the KREINDLER name is not all that common, I have never been able to connect my line with the KREINDLERS of Club 21 fame. Their earliest ancestor in the US was Kieve/Carl KREINDLER who arrived in NY either in 1900 (according to Ellis Island records) or in 1896 (according to his son, Peter).

 

Kieve/Carl’s branch subsequently changed the spelling of their name to KRIENDLER, probably because it was grammatically more correct in English-speaking USA. My line retained the original spelling.

 

Years ago, I tried to find out where Kieve/Carl’s family had originated. It was not on his Ellis Island arrival record and none of his family apparently knew the answer (although the ones I spoke to were also very curious).

 

I wonder if, in the intervening 20 plus years, any of the KRIENDLER branch has been able to find the answer? If so, I would be delighted to hear from you.


Cindy g
 

Does anyone have a subscription to ProQuest who would be willing to look up an obituary for me?  I used to be able to access the site through my public library, but they no longer subscribe to the site. 

Thank you,
--
Cindy Gallard
Denver, CO
Researching Rothblatt, Komisarchik, Feldman, Lobatch and Goodman


JewishGen Research Divisions #records

Beverley Davis
 

For many years I was subscribed to the following JewishGen Special Interest Groups (SIGs): Early America, GerSIG, JCR-UK, JRI-Poland, Latvia, Litvak, Rabbinic, South Africa, and Warszawa, which all ceased operation when the upgraded JewishGen.org Discussion Group was initiated.

I would like to know what has happened to the previously archived messages, and directions on how to access the new Research Divisions.

Beverley Davis, Melbourne Australia


Re: Quick Translation from German to English Please #translation

fredelfruhman
 

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:11 AM, fredelfruhman wrote:

I apologize for the two typos.  I should have written:
The groom was from Nordenburg.  His parents were the vinegar manufacturer Katzke Lieberman and Rahel nee Wolff.

 
--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Oradea (Grossverdan / Nagyvarad) Cemetery Search #general #romania #hungary

Moishe Miller
 

Dear Group,

Does anyone know of a resource to locate and possibly photograph the tombstones of my g-g-gp's, in Oradea? I know there are three Jewish cemeteries there. The Valenta has many tomstones photographed on JOWBR. 

-Moishe Miller
Brooklyn. NY
JGFF# 3391
moishe.miller@...


Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

YaleZuss@...
 

I realize that in some places this might not be applicable right now, but public libraries often have subscriptions to Ancestry that can be used for free.  They won't offer a free trial, nor will they ask for a credit card number.
 
Some of these libraries have made it possible to connect to Ancestry from home through them during the pandemic.
 
Yale Zussman
 
 


Please help with translation of marriage certificate in Russian from Markuszow, Lublin, Poland #poland #russia #translation

kosfiszer8@...
 

This is a wedding certificate from 1876 that may be of my wife's great grandmother in Markuszow, Lublin, Poland, then under Russian control. The family names are Neirensztein and Goldzycher. Thank you in advance for your help.
I need to know the names and age related information of the parents of the bride and groom and the bride and groom, and the place where they were born.
Angel Kosfiszer
Richardson, Texas