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Jeff Knisbacher asked "Is there a way to view these messages with the new information first instead of last? ".
Yes, there is. Just click the triangle next to Date at the top of the list so that it points down instead of up. -- Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche) VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev) ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy) KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)
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Subj: ViewMate translation request - Russian
#ukraine
#translation
sarahliron@...
Hi,
I've posted 2 travel related documents (for my Bresler family) in Russian for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86864 https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86865 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Sarah Liron
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ViewMate translation request - Polish
#poland
#translation
Hi all:
I have posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ... https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86762 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Many thanks in advance. Jacqueline GRUSZECKI Toronto,Ontario,Canada Researching: ENGEL,WAGOWSKI and extended families from Lodz and other areas.
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The man on Viewmate # 86851
#photographs
Paul Silverstone
I am trying to find out who is the man in this picture. The original
picture came with a group of photos of my father's parents' family, so I believe that is where he belongs. His surname name may be SILBERSTEIN, or CHRZAN. The family lived in Makow Mazowiecki or Pultusk in Poland, north of Warsaw. I believe this is a 19th century photo, and it appears to be retouched. if anyone recognizes him please let me know! -- Paul Silverstone West Vancouver, BC see: www.paulsilverstone.com
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Polish Translation Request 2 ggm
#translation
Nomi Waksberg
Chag Sameach Sukkot
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ... https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86878 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg FISZENFELD,BRAUN,FRYDMAN,WOLKOWICZ,BURMAN, RAUMBAUM,ZINGER,RYGIEL,LEWKOWICZ,ELWIG,WAKSBERG (including variations in spelling)
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Tracing PESNOY family in Toronto
#canada
boris
I am looking for the descendants of a Pesnoy family. Sylvia and Issac Pesnoy are buried in the Roselawn cemetery, Pride of Israel section, Row G, graves 6 and 7. They had a grocery store at 90 Ossington Avenue, corner of Humbert Street between at least 1940-1965. They possibly had a son named Frank (listed as a Storekeeper in the 1965 Voter Rolls).
Sylvia (born Sima Zimgorod) Pesnoy was my mother's aunt who corresponded with other siblings in Zhitomir, Ukraine until ca. 1946-1947. The siblings stopped corresponding with relatives abroad and destroyed all letters and envelopes out of fear of being arrested and sentenced to camps.
The office manager at the Roselawn cemetery stated there are no other Pesnoy burials there, which implies that Frank may still be alive or have left Toronto or changed the name.
The burial information was found in the JOWBR database and is presumed to be copied /translated from the tombstone.
Are photos of the burials available to see? If not, does anybody on the list visit the cemetery and would be willing to snap a picture?
Question to Toronto mavens: is it customary/recommended/mandatory in Canada to fill out a vital statistics forms, as I did at a request of the funeral home here in the US when my mother died? If yes, where can it be found?
I have not inquired yet with the Benjamin and the Steele chapels but will do so soon.
My email inquiry to the Pride of Israel congregation is so far unanswered. Since this synagogue is several kilometres away from the Ossington/Humbert intersection, I suspect that the Pesnoy family may have belonged to another schul within walking distance, if there was one. Hence
Question 2: where can the information (a map or a list) about 1930's Toronto synagogues be found? The internet offered no leads so far.
There is a large collection of photographs of individual New York buildings captured by the NYC tax office some 100 years ago.
Question 3: does a similar collection exist in Toronto?
Question 4: do digitized versions of Toronto Jewish newspapers exist online and which, if any, are searcheable?
Thank you very much for any help or leads.
-- _______________________________________ Boris Feldblyum FAST Genealogy Service boris@...
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Re: Where can I find the birth certificate of someone who was born in a DP camp (Benzheim)?
#records
#holocaust
Pieter Hoekstra
Maybe on arolsen-archives.org?
-- Pieter Hoekstra <sold@...>
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ViewMate translation request - Hebrew
#slovakia
#translation
David Kennedy
I've posted a photo of a tombstone in Hebrew for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ... https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86853 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much Dave Kennedy
Newcastle, Australia
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Re: Swedish Death Records: VON KRASKOWSKI
#records
jadamsbaum@...
Per the Swedish Death Index 1901-2013, Johanna Tekla von Kraskowski f. Kann died on the 23 Feb 1958. She was living in Engelbrekt, Stockholm. She was listed as a divorced woman. I did further research on ArkivDigital and found that she divorced on 14 Aug 1939. Prior to that, she seemed to be living with her husband and two children.
Jessica Adamsbaum
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FACEBOOK LINK ADDED (US-NYC) Records Access in Jeopardy NYC DORIS Regulations- ACTION REQUIRED
#announcements
#records
#usa
Jan Meisels Allen
It has been pointed out that I forgot to include the Facebook link although it is on the NYG&B website link I provided. The Facebook link is https://business.facebook.com/nyfamilyhistory/videos/370987794079940/ It is included now below if you are sharing this posting. My apologies for not including it the first time.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
PLEASE SHARE THIS INFORMATION AND THE ATTACHED ONE-PAGER WITH YOUR READERS, BLOG POSTS, SOCIETY MEMBERS. ETC.
New York City is the one jurisdiction where everyone knows someone on their family tree has been-so for this issue we are all New Yorkers! The IAJGS Records Access Alert notified everyone on September 29 about the proposed regulations the NYC Department of Records and Information Services (DORIS) AKA the Municipal Archives, when they published the proposed regulations and scheduled a hearing on October 23, 2020, at 11:00 AM ET.
The Municipal Archives says it in their own words: “the Municipal Archives comprises the largest local government archive in North America…the Archives hold the records depicting the daily work of city government, including paper records…still and moving images, ledgers and docket books, vital records, cartographic materials, blueprints, and sound recordings.”
These are some of the egregious actions they are taking. We all know we have to pay something for the records, and that is not the issue. The issue is access and their proposal to license public records that are already paid by public funds! Let’s talk about licensing and access. If you purchase ANYTHING from the Municipal Archives/DORIS, vital records, tax records, photographs, videos, any item they have which includes the old Amsterdam records going back to the 1600s they want us to complete a form for their permission, and then charge us if they grant permission, to share the document/photograph etc. That means a genealogist who is hired by someone can’t just share the document with their client, or a hobbyist sharing it with their family- UNLESS they pay an additional fee and get permission. If you share that record with other family members, in online family tree, as proof for application to a lineage society, or in a printed history you are preparing for an upcoming family event you have to get their permission and pay their additional fee—you already paid for the record-this is double, triple, quadruple dipping!. DORIS says they can blanket license on anything and everything.
Under the rules, before you can do any of the items mentioned above, you are required to fill out a “Permission to Publish/Use Contract” (MA-45) and pay an additional $15.00 (per item) to “license” this image from DORIS. If you want to use a slide in a presentation that has a copy of the record—you have to get their permission and pay $15 for each record you want to include in your presentation. Researchers—if you want to share 50 copies of a certificate as part of your research you would have to get permission and pay $15 for each of the 50 copies or $750.00. If you want to publish your findings and include a copy in your article you have to get permission and pay $15.00 This is outrageous!
From the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society (NYG&B) landing page : Licensing fees for public records created with taxpayer funds are illogical and an affront to the very notion of accessible public records. The fact that this practice has been ongoing for a number of years does not make it right.
This is their own words: Proposed changes to these rules modify the language to mandate licensing fees when using these public records for educational, scholarly, non-profit, and media use.
An analogy: If you go to the restaurant and order the meal you get charged $15.00 If you eat the meal you get charged $15.00 if you take home leftovers you get charged $15.00! Just replace the word meal for record and you get the idea!
The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society (NYG&B) are spearheading the effort to get a mass response to these proposed regulations. Go to their landing page for more information: https://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/access-alert
This is what you can do:
https://business.facebook.com/nyfamilyhistory/videos/370987794079940/
To access the proposed rules see: https://rules.cityofnewyork.us/rule/32136/
DORIS moved the rules from where they were originally in my September 29 post! You can click on the link in the URL above or go directly to: https://tinyurl.com/yydbzwbz
The public hearing is scheduled for Friday October 23, 2020 at 11:00AM Eastern Time. Deadline for submitting comments is also October 23, 2020—see below on how to submit your statement. Information on how to participate by video conference or telephone is: Internet Video and Audio. To participate in the public hearing, enter the WebEx URL: https://nycdoris.webex.com/nycdoris/j.php?MTID=mefc0048fb1822df1ceebde18 (copy and paste if it does not click)
If prompted to provide a password or number, please enter the following: Meeting Number: 173 225 7395. Password: kjEZGpCu746 • Telephone. To access the hearing by telephone, dial +1-646-992-2010 United States Toll (New York City) or 1-408-418-9388 United States Toll. • Access code: 173 225 7395
You can submit comments several ways: • Website. You can submit comments to the Department of Records & Information Services through the NYC rules website at: http://rules.cityofnewyork.us. • Email. You can email comments to DORISrules@... • Mail. You can mail comments to: Assistant Commissioner Kenneth R. Cobb, Department of Records & Information Services, 31 Chambers Street, Suite 305, New York, N.Y. 10007. • Fax. You can fax comments to Department of Records & Information Services, 212 788-8625. • By speaking at the hearing. Anyone who wants to comment on the proposed rule at the public hearing may speak for up to three minutes. Please access the public hearing by Internet Video and Audio or by Telephone using the instructions above. It is recommended, but not required, that anyone who wants to comment sign up prior to the hearing by emailing Gerald Rosero at: grosero@...
Please be active on this issue---we can’t be silent!
To access the previous postings on the IAJGS Records Access Alert about the NYC DORIS/Municipal Archives go to the archives of the IAJGS Records Access Alert at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/. You must be registered to access the archives. To register go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization with whom you are affiliated. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Where can I find the birth certificate of someone who was born in a DP camp (Benzheim)?
#records
#holocaust
Corinna Woehrl
Hello Jessica,
I did a quick German online-research and didn't find explicit information on responsibilities. I would suggest that the family members write to the Bensheim Standesamt (registry office) describing the situation/request, they will surely know. They will need to prove their legitimation (direct descendance) via a scan of an ID. E-Mail: standesamt@... Standesamt/Team Personenstandswesen Kirchbergstraße 18 64625 Bensheim Good luck! Corinna Wöhrl (Hoisdorf, Germany)
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Seeking more information about Chernigov, Ukraine
#ukraine
My grandmother Sara J’affectionne Hackerman was born in Chernigov Russian/Ukrainian looking for more information on that community. She was born in 1899 I believe and immigrated to Baltimore, Maryland around 1906. I believe they had a brewery and tobacco farm in Russia.
Lynn Weidner
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Request for Translation from Polish
#translation
John Lowin
I have posted four vital records to Viemate and requesting translation from Polish. The documents are 86803, 86802, 86801, 86786, 86785. Thank you for your help.
Researching Lowin in Galicia. Best Regards, John Lowin
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Re: Alternate names for Mollie Schiff
#names
Michele Lock
For Mollie, the most likely Yiddish/Hebrew name would be Malke/Malkah. Others might be Michle or Mamle. And then each of these might have various YIddish nicknames.
Have you tried just searching M* Schiff? More likely than not, your relative chose an English name that began with the same letter as her Yiddish/Hebrew name. I have a great great grandmother Michle, who in the US went by Mollie, Minnie, Mamie, and Minnie in various census records. Michele Lock Alexandria, VA
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(US-NYC) Records Access in Jeopardy NYC DORIS Regulations- ACTION REQUIRED
#announcements
Jan Meisels Allen
PLEASE SHARE THIS INFORMATION AND THE ATTACHED ONE-PAGER WITH YOUR READERS, BLOG POSTS, SOCIETY MEMBERS. ETC.
New York City is the one jurisdiction where everyone knows someone on their family tree has been-so for this issue we are all New Yorkers! The IAJGS Records Access Alert notified everyone on September 29 about the proposed regulations the NYC Department of Records and Information Services (DORIS) AKA the Municipal Archives, when they published the proposed regulations and scheduled a hearing on October 23, 2020, at 11:00 AM ET.
The Municipal Archives says it in their own words: “the Municipal Archives comprises the largest local government archive in North America…the Archives hold the records depicting the daily work of city government, including paper records…still and moving images, ledgers and docket books, vital records, cartographic materials, blueprints, and sound recordings.”
These are some of the egregious actions they are taking. We all know we have to pay something for the records, and that is not the issue. The issue is access and their proposal to license public records that are already paid by public funds! Let’s talk about licensing and access. If you purchase ANYTHING from the Municipal Archives/DORIS, vital records, tax records, photographs, videos, any item they have which includes the old Amsterdam records going back to the 1600s they want us to complete a form for their permission, and then charge us if they grant permission, to share the document/photograph etc. That means a genealogist who is hired by someone can’t just share the document with their client, or a hobbyist sharing it with their family- UNLESS they pay an additional fee and get permission. If you share that record with other family members, in online family tree, as proof for application to a lineage society, or in a printed history you are preparing for an upcoming family event you have to get their permission and pay their additional fee—you already paid for the record-this is double, triple, quadruple dipping!. DORIS says they can blanket license on anything and everything.
Under the rules, before you can do any of the items mentioned above, you are required to fill out a “Permission to Publish/Use Contract” (MA-45) and pay an additional $15.00 (per item) to “license” this image from DORIS. If you want to use a slide in a presentation that has a copy of the record—you have to get their permission and pay $15 for each record you want to include in your presentation. Researchers—if you want to share 50 copies of a certificate as part of your research you would have to get permission and pay $15 for each of the 50 copies or $750.00. If you want to publish your findings and include a copy in your article you have to get permission and pay $15.00 This is outrageous!
From the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society (NYG&B) landing page : Licensing fees for public records created with taxpayer funds are illogical and an affront to the very notion of accessible public records. The fact that this practice has been ongoing for a number of years does not make it right.
This is their own words: Proposed changes to these rules modify the language to mandate licensing fees when using these public records for educational, scholarly, non-profit, and media use.
An analogy: If you go to the restaurant and order the meal you get charged $15.00 If you eat the meal you get charged $15.00 if you take home leftovers you get charged $15.00! Just replace the word meal for record and you get the idea!
The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society (NYG&B) are spearheading the effort to get a mass response to these proposed regulations. Go to their landing page for more information: https://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/access-alert
This is what you can do:
To access the proposed rules see: https://rules.cityofnewyork.us/rule/32136/
DORIS moved the rules from where they were originally in my September 29 post! You can click on the link in the URL above or go directly to: https://tinyurl.com/yydbzwbz
The public hearing is scheduled for Friday October 23, 2020 at 11:00AM Eastern Time. Deadline for submitting comments is also October 23, 2020—see below on how to submit your statement. Information on how to participate by video conference or telephone is: Internet Video and Audio. To participate in the public hearing, enter the WebEx URL: https://nycdoris.webex.com/nycdoris/j.php?MTID=mefc0048fb1822df1ceebde18 (copy and paste if it does not click)
If prompted to provide a password or number, please enter the following: Meeting Number: 173 225 7395. Password: kjEZGpCu746 • Telephone. To access the hearing by telephone, dial +1-646-992-2010 United States Toll (New York City) or 1-408-418-9388 United States Toll. • Access code: 173 225 7395
You can submit comments several ways: • Website. You can submit comments to the Department of Records & Information Services through the NYC rules website at: http://rules.cityofnewyork.us. • Email. You can email comments to DORISrules@... • Mail. You can mail comments to: Assistant Commissioner Kenneth R. Cobb, Department of Records & Information Services, 31 Chambers Street, Suite 305, New York, N.Y. 10007. • Fax. You can fax comments to Department of Records & Information Services, 212 788-8625. • By speaking at the hearing. Anyone who wants to comment on the proposed rule at the public hearing may speak for up to three minutes. Please access the public hearing by Internet Video and Audio or by Telephone using the instructions above. It is recommended, but not required, that anyone who wants to comment sign up prior to the hearing by emailing Gerald Rosero at: grosero@...
Please be active on this issue---we can’t be silent!
To access the previous postings on the IAJGS Records Access Alert about the NYC DORIS/Municipal Archives go to the archives of the IAJGS Records Access Alert at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/. You must be registered to access the archives. To register go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization with whom you are affiliated. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Alternate names for Mollie Schiff
#names
Sherri Bobish
Susan, The 1890's can be a tough decade to search for manifests. Information varied by shipping line. Some may list little data, not even the town of birth. The handwriting on the manifests can be difficult to read which causes transcription errors. It is possible her first and/or surname can be transcribed to the index with an odd spelling. As far as learning what her original first name was, have you checked if it is inscribed on her tombstone? Regards, Sherri Bobish
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Re: Looking for family of Tsoglin from Chernigov and Semenovka
#ukraine
In Russian Cyrillic, the letters Ч “ch” and Ц “ts” are somewhat interchangeable.
Also, Cyrillic Г is transliterated to “G” or sometimes “V” from Russian, but to “H” from Ukrainian.
-David Mason, Culver City, CA
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Stakliskes, Lithuania - BARGER, ITMAN, KAPLAN
#lithuania
Angie Elfassi
Hi, On the same page/list is: Yankel BARGER s/o Berko - 49, his wife Henna - 37 and their daughter Chayka 11. It says next to Yankel's name: cousin, next to Henna - cousin's wife, next to Chayka cousin's daughter And also on the same page/list is: Manko KAPLAN s/o Yudel - 40; his wife Feyga - 35 and their daughter Chanka 5 It says next to Manko's name: cousin, next to Feyga - cousin's wife, next to Chanka cousin's daughter. Is anyone connected to the KAPLAN or BARGER families? and then we can connect to the ITMAN family. Thanks for your time and moadim l'simcha
Searching:RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/LeedsCOHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/LeedsMAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/LeedsKASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/LeedsMULVIDSON, Rezekne, Latvia/SwedenGREENSTONE, Rezekne, Latvia/LeedsITMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/USASOKOLOV, LatviaKANTOR, Sakiai, LithuaniaGOLDBERG, Sakiai, LithuaniaGELBERG, Kamianka-stromilava, Lvov, PolandELFASSI, Settat, Morocco
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Re: Looking for Linder and Spiwak from Poland and UK
#poland
#unitedkingdom
Sherri Bobish
Liz, Searching https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl I see a Murray LINDNER born 1915, mother's maiden SMITH. There is also another Murray LINDNER born 1881. Searching the above site for births, marriages & deaths may help you in your search. Regards, Sherri Bobish
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Jx. Gx.
Friends -
The New York Genealogical and Biological Society has posted the follow important message on their website. The NYC Department of Records and Information Services (DORIS) is proposing changes to how researchers can use public records held at the Municipal Archives (including New York City’s birth, marriage, and death records). In short, DORIS is adding language that limits your ability to share these documents with others and prohibits the use of these public records for educational, scholarly, non-profit, or media purposes without a paid license. The impact of these changes for researchers, genealogists, historians, and others is immense. You can learn more about these changes and their direct impact on you at nygbs.org/access-alert From that page, you can learn how to add your voice to this conversation before October 23, 2020, by submitting your personal comments, signing a public comment, participating in the public hearing, and/or sharing this news with others. We need your voice to affirm that public records created by taxpayer funds remain freely accessible. Thank you for your support – Joshua For more information about this proposed licensing and fee increase, please click on the link below or cut and paste to your web browser. https://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/access-alert?utm_source=enews&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=records+access Thank you. Jeffrey Gee Arizona
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