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Jewish access to the city #poland #warsaw

YaleZuss@...
 

It is my understanding that Jews without prior connection to the city
weren't allowed to move into Warsaw in the years after Poland became
independent. Despite this, my great uncle, Shaya (Yishaya) Kremer, was able to move
there, >from Ukraine, and establish a jewelry store. I have no indication
that he, and thus my family, had any "prior connection" to the city. If my
understanding is correct, why might he have been able to move there?

Note: Uncle Shaya and his whole family were Holocaust victims so there are
no descendants to answer my questions.

Yale Zussman

Researching: KREMER/KRAMER in Warszawa and Ukraine. ZUSSELM
AN/ZISSELMAN/ZUSSMAN, KARDONSKY, GERROL, AINGORN/EINHORN in Ukraine
EISENDORFF, AKABAS, SWIG, ZLOTNITZKI, SALINGER in Lithuania
THORNER, FIZYK in Poland


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Jewish access to the city #warsaw #poland

YaleZuss@...
 

It is my understanding that Jews without prior connection to the city
weren't allowed to move into Warsaw in the years after Poland became
independent. Despite this, my great uncle, Shaya (Yishaya) Kremer, was able to move
there, >from Ukraine, and establish a jewelry store. I have no indication
that he, and thus my family, had any "prior connection" to the city. If my
understanding is correct, why might he have been able to move there?

Note: Uncle Shaya and his whole family were Holocaust victims so there are
no descendants to answer my questions.

Yale Zussman

Researching: KREMER/KRAMER in Warszawa and Ukraine. ZUSSELM
AN/ZISSELMAN/ZUSSMAN, KARDONSKY, GERROL, AINGORN/EINHORN in Ukraine
EISENDORFF, AKABAS, SWIG, ZLOTNITZKI, SALINGER in Lithuania
THORNER, FIZYK in Poland


JewishGen offers popular class: Independent Study July 10-31 #warsaw #poland

Nancy Holden
 

JewishGen is offering Independent Study July 10-31. Application required.

If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
individualized instruction...
Set your own project. The instructor will analyze your application data
and help you set goals and objectives for solutions and success.

Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide range
of problem solving solutions >from techniques to resources.

The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/Education
that offers one-on-one instruction and is open 24/7.

Course Description and application: http://www.jewishgen.org/education

Tuition: $200.
Nancy Holden
Email Nancy Holden
nholden@interserv.com


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland JewishGen offers popular class: Independent Study July 10-31 #warsaw #poland

Nancy Holden
 

JewishGen is offering Independent Study July 10-31. Application required.

If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
individualized instruction...
Set your own project. The instructor will analyze your application data
and help you set goals and objectives for solutions and success.

Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide range
of problem solving solutions >from techniques to resources.

The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/Education
that offers one-on-one instruction and is open 24/7.

Course Description and application: http://www.jewishgen.org/education

Tuition: $200.
Nancy Holden
Email Nancy Holden
nholden@interserv.com


New District Research Group sites and new Members site #lithuania

Carol Hoffman
 

We are very excited to announce that on 1 July 2017 we launched 17 new
sites within the litvaksig.org domain! Our contributors and members
can now access all of their sites' files through new login details
that were sent to them.

This new development provides a more stable,secure and user friendly
environment to our sites.

We thank our DRG coordinators Alan Nathan, Amy Wachs, Dorothy Leivers,
Jill Anderson, Judy Baston, Michael Kransdorf, Ralph Salinger, Rhoda
Miller, Roy Ogus and Russ Maurer along with Barry Halpern, Eden
Joachim, and Garri Regev who worked tirelessly to help design the new
sites and maintain them.

LitvakSIG https://www.litvaksig.org/ is grateful and proud to have our
contributors, supporters and members. We thank all of you and do hope
that you will enjoy the ease of these new sites.

For all of you who will be attending the IAJGS 2017 Conference in
Florida - we look forward to seeing you! Look for us at the SHARE
Fair, attend our luncheon, and our lectures.

Carol Hoffman
LitvakSIG President


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania New District Research Group sites and new Members site #lithuania

Carol Hoffman
 

We are very excited to announce that on 1 July 2017 we launched 17 new
sites within the litvaksig.org domain! Our contributors and members
can now access all of their sites' files through new login details
that were sent to them.

This new development provides a more stable,secure and user friendly
environment to our sites.

We thank our DRG coordinators Alan Nathan, Amy Wachs, Dorothy Leivers,
Jill Anderson, Judy Baston, Michael Kransdorf, Ralph Salinger, Rhoda
Miller, Roy Ogus and Russ Maurer along with Barry Halpern, Eden
Joachim, and Garri Regev who worked tirelessly to help design the new
sites and maintain them.

LitvakSIG https://www.litvaksig.org/ is grateful and proud to have our
contributors, supporters and members. We thank all of you and do hope
that you will enjoy the ease of these new sites.

For all of you who will be attending the IAJGS 2017 Conference in
Florida - we look forward to seeing you! Look for us at the SHARE
Fair, attend our luncheon, and our lectures.

Carol Hoffman
LitvakSIG President


IAJGS Records Access Alert Postings June 2017 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As mentioned previously, every month I will be posting a listing of the
IAJGS Records Access Alert topics >from the previous month for you to see the
variety of issues.some were posted on this discussion group as they were
final edicts, but advocacy, and pending legislation and regulations- were
not posted to the discussion group-all postings are included below. Any
postings that had a time limit for access, such as free access that has
expired are not included below.

. (Australia) 2016 Census Has Surprising Results
. (Canada) Library and Archives Canada and Supreme Court of Canada Sign
Agreement on Transfer, Preservation and Access to Case Files
. (Canada) Library and Archives Canada Private Fonds Hold World War l Photographs
. (Canada) Canada's Supreme Court Rules Against Google -They Must Remove
Search Results Worldwide-Right to be Forgotten
. (EU, Google, Microsoft) LOC Guide to Researching EU Law; EU Fines Google
$2.7 B Fine;
. (Germany) Munich Court Issues Injunction to Google Regarding Takedown Notices
. Google Adds Confidential Personal Medical Records to List of Information
They Remove >from the Internet
. International Tracing Service Archives Moves to Interim Storage
. (UK) House of Lords Bill on Registration of Marriage Act 2017 Introduced
. (UK) Queens Speech on Opening of Parliament Includes Mention of Right to
be Forgotten
. (US) Interim Census Director Appointed
. (US) Courts May Restrict Public Access to PACER
. (US) US Supreme Court Ruling : Must List Same Sex Parents on Birth Certificates
. (US) Library of Congress Veterans History Project Launches World War l
Website Exhibit
. (US-Canada) Budget Cuts for Archives, Libraries and Museums
. (US-CA) Broadband Internet Privacy Act Introduced
. (US-Idaho) State Archives and Ancestry Collaborate to Digitize Vital Records
. (US-NC) Access to SSN on Death Certificates Again Being Charged As Reason
For Identity Theft
. (US-NH) Update on New Hampshire Privacy and Right to Know
. (US-NH) More on Update on New Hampshire and Privacy and Right to Know
. (US-NY) Adoptee Rights Bill Goes To Governor Cuomo Amidst Outrage by
Adoptee Rights Community
. (US-NY) NY State Attorney General Announces Record Number of Data Breaches
for 2016
. (US-NY) Reclaim the Records Gets New York State Death Index 1880-1956
. (US-VA) Virginia Supreme Court Decides against Right to Know in Access to
Court Records Case Brought by the Media
. (US-Virgin Islands) US Virgin Islands Launches Electronic Birth and Death
Records System
. (Wales) National Library of Wales Launches New Website With Online Resources

IAJGS has opened its Records Access Alerts to anyone who is interested.
This was announced previously. We now have subscribers >from many
genealogical organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of
what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts
to receive the information in a timely manner. If you are interested in any
of the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and
look at them in the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access
Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts
and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG or a subscriber of
JewishGen, Avotaynu Online, Legal Genealogist etc. You will receive an
email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be
finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the
archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/.
The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending
on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and
other times there may be several in one day.

These are listed alphabetically not chronologically. Each month the locales
covered differ.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
janmallen@att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IAJGS Records Access Alert Postings June 2017 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As mentioned previously, every month I will be posting a listing of the
IAJGS Records Access Alert topics >from the previous month for you to see the
variety of issues.some were posted on this discussion group as they were
final edicts, but advocacy, and pending legislation and regulations- were
not posted to the discussion group-all postings are included below. Any
postings that had a time limit for access, such as free access that has
expired are not included below.

. (Australia) 2016 Census Has Surprising Results
. (Canada) Library and Archives Canada and Supreme Court of Canada Sign
Agreement on Transfer, Preservation and Access to Case Files
. (Canada) Library and Archives Canada Private Fonds Hold World War l Photographs
. (Canada) Canada's Supreme Court Rules Against Google -They Must Remove
Search Results Worldwide-Right to be Forgotten
. (EU, Google, Microsoft) LOC Guide to Researching EU Law; EU Fines Google
$2.7 B Fine;
. (Germany) Munich Court Issues Injunction to Google Regarding Takedown Notices
. Google Adds Confidential Personal Medical Records to List of Information
They Remove >from the Internet
. International Tracing Service Archives Moves to Interim Storage
. (UK) House of Lords Bill on Registration of Marriage Act 2017 Introduced
. (UK) Queens Speech on Opening of Parliament Includes Mention of Right to
be Forgotten
. (US) Interim Census Director Appointed
. (US) Courts May Restrict Public Access to PACER
. (US) US Supreme Court Ruling : Must List Same Sex Parents on Birth Certificates
. (US) Library of Congress Veterans History Project Launches World War l
Website Exhibit
. (US-Canada) Budget Cuts for Archives, Libraries and Museums
. (US-CA) Broadband Internet Privacy Act Introduced
. (US-Idaho) State Archives and Ancestry Collaborate to Digitize Vital Records
. (US-NC) Access to SSN on Death Certificates Again Being Charged As Reason
For Identity Theft
. (US-NH) Update on New Hampshire Privacy and Right to Know
. (US-NH) More on Update on New Hampshire and Privacy and Right to Know
. (US-NY) Adoptee Rights Bill Goes To Governor Cuomo Amidst Outrage by
Adoptee Rights Community
. (US-NY) NY State Attorney General Announces Record Number of Data Breaches
for 2016
. (US-NY) Reclaim the Records Gets New York State Death Index 1880-1956
. (US-VA) Virginia Supreme Court Decides against Right to Know in Access to
Court Records Case Brought by the Media
. (US-Virgin Islands) US Virgin Islands Launches Electronic Birth and Death
Records System
. (Wales) National Library of Wales Launches New Website With Online Resources

IAJGS has opened its Records Access Alerts to anyone who is interested.
This was announced previously. We now have subscribers >from many
genealogical organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of
what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts
to receive the information in a timely manner. If you are interested in any
of the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and
look at them in the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access
Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts
and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG or a subscriber of
JewishGen, Avotaynu Online, Legal Genealogist etc. You will receive an
email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be
finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the
archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/.
The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending
on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and
other times there may be several in one day.

These are listed alphabetically not chronologically. Each month the locales
covered differ.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
janmallen@att.net


Translate Hand-Written Polish to English #poland

MILTON ERDFARB <milton.erdfarb@...>
 

I believe this may be the birth record for my Grandfather, Moszko
(Moshe) ERDFARB. I would like to know his date of birth and his
parents' name and any other biographical info. Any information you
can translate would be wonderful. Thanks!

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1762/0/2/56/skan/full/TwcDQhCSiq4f-ecs4zal7A

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately or on the Viewmate form.


JRI Poland #Poland Translate Hand-Written Polish to English #poland

MILTON ERDFARB <milton.erdfarb@...>
 

I believe this may be the birth record for my Grandfather, Moszko
(Moshe) ERDFARB. I would like to know his date of birth and his
parents' name and any other biographical info. Any information you
can translate would be wonderful. Thanks!

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1762/0/2/56/skan/full/TwcDQhCSiq4f-ecs4zal7A

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately or on the Viewmate form.


Suchostaw Region Research Group (SRRG) meeting #poland

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

The Suchostaw Region Research Group (SRRG) meeting at the Orlando
IAJGS Conference is scheduled for:
Wednesday, July 26, 2017
2:00 PM - 3:15 PM
Room: Parrot 2

Members of SRRG and everyone with family links in shtetlach included in
the Suchostaw Region Research Group are invited to attend. Please let
me know if you will be attending the meeting and which shtetlach you are
researching in case I have material of special interest that I should
bring with me.

SRRG includes the following Administrative Districts:
Borszczow - Buczacz - Czortkow - Husiatyn - Skalat - Tarnopol -
Trembowla - Zbaraz Zaleszczyki

Shtetlach included in SRRG:
Although there are many other shtetlach in the SRRG area that once had a
Jewish community, we list below only some of the shtetlach where our
members had family connections.
Barysz, Baworow, Beremiany, Bialoboznica, Biala, Bilcze, Borki Wielkie,
Borszczow, Buczacz, Budzanow, Burakowka, Chorostkow, Cygany, Czahary
Zbaraskie, Czarnokonce, Czortkow, Draganowka, Darachow, Davidkowce,
Dolina, Gleboczek, Grzymalow, Hadynkowce, Holoszynce, Horodnica,
Husiatyn, Ilawcze, Iwanowka, Jablonow, Jagielnica, Janow, Jazlowiec,
Jezierzany, Kaczanowka, Kalaharowka, Klebanowka, Klimkowce, Kluwince,
Kobylowloki, Kolodrobka, Kolodziejowka, Kopyczynce, Korolowka,
Koscielniki, Kosmierzyn, Kosow, Kotowka, Kozaczyzna, Kozowka, Krasne,
Krzywcze Gorne, Krzywenkie, Krzywoluka, Kujdance, Ladyczyn, Lanowce,
Losiacz, Lozowka, Majdan, Maksymowka, Mielnica, Mikulince,
Molczanowka, Monasterzyska, Mszaniec, Myszkowice, Nagorzanka,
Nowosiolka, Okopy, Olchowiec, Ostapie, Ostra, Pauszowka,
Petlikowce Stare, Pilatkowce, Plotycz, Podfilipie, Podwoloczyska,
Postolowka, Potok Zloty, Probuzna, Proszowa, Romanowe Siolo,
Romanowka, Rosochacz, Rosochowaciec, Ruzdwiany, Salowka, Semenow,
Skala, Skalat, Skomorosze, Snowidow, Sosolowka, Strusow, Stryjowka,
Suchostaw, Suszczyn, Swidowa, Swierzkowce, Tarnopol, Tarnoruda,
Teklowka, Tluste, Touste (near Skalat), Trembowla, Trojka,
Trybuchowce, Tudorow, Turylcze, Ulaszkowce, Uscie Biskupie,
Uscieczko, Uwisla, Wasylkowce, Wierzbowka, Winiatynce,
Wolkowce ad Borszczow, Worwolince, Wygnanka, Zadniszowka,
Zaleszczyki, Zascinocze, Zazdrosc, Zbaraz

See you in Orlando.

Susana Leistner Bloch, Coordinator
Suchostaw Region Research Group (SRRG)
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Suchostaw/SRRGhome.html
bloch@mts


JRI Poland #Poland Suchostaw Region Research Group (SRRG) meeting #poland

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

The Suchostaw Region Research Group (SRRG) meeting at the Orlando
IAJGS Conference is scheduled for:
Wednesday, July 26, 2017
2:00 PM - 3:15 PM
Room: Parrot 2

Members of SRRG and everyone with family links in shtetlach included in
the Suchostaw Region Research Group are invited to attend. Please let
me know if you will be attending the meeting and which shtetlach you are
researching in case I have material of special interest that I should
bring with me.

SRRG includes the following Administrative Districts:
Borszczow - Buczacz - Czortkow - Husiatyn - Skalat - Tarnopol -
Trembowla - Zbaraz Zaleszczyki

Shtetlach included in SRRG:
Although there are many other shtetlach in the SRRG area that once had a
Jewish community, we list below only some of the shtetlach where our
members had family connections.
Barysz, Baworow, Beremiany, Bialoboznica, Biala, Bilcze, Borki Wielkie,
Borszczow, Buczacz, Budzanow, Burakowka, Chorostkow, Cygany, Czahary
Zbaraskie, Czarnokonce, Czortkow, Draganowka, Darachow, Davidkowce,
Dolina, Gleboczek, Grzymalow, Hadynkowce, Holoszynce, Horodnica,
Husiatyn, Ilawcze, Iwanowka, Jablonow, Jagielnica, Janow, Jazlowiec,
Jezierzany, Kaczanowka, Kalaharowka, Klebanowka, Klimkowce, Kluwince,
Kobylowloki, Kolodrobka, Kolodziejowka, Kopyczynce, Korolowka,
Koscielniki, Kosmierzyn, Kosow, Kotowka, Kozaczyzna, Kozowka, Krasne,
Krzywcze Gorne, Krzywenkie, Krzywoluka, Kujdance, Ladyczyn, Lanowce,
Losiacz, Lozowka, Majdan, Maksymowka, Mielnica, Mikulince,
Molczanowka, Monasterzyska, Mszaniec, Myszkowice, Nagorzanka,
Nowosiolka, Okopy, Olchowiec, Ostapie, Ostra, Pauszowka,
Petlikowce Stare, Pilatkowce, Plotycz, Podfilipie, Podwoloczyska,
Postolowka, Potok Zloty, Probuzna, Proszowa, Romanowe Siolo,
Romanowka, Rosochacz, Rosochowaciec, Ruzdwiany, Salowka, Semenow,
Skala, Skalat, Skomorosze, Snowidow, Sosolowka, Strusow, Stryjowka,
Suchostaw, Suszczyn, Swidowa, Swierzkowce, Tarnopol, Tarnoruda,
Teklowka, Tluste, Touste (near Skalat), Trembowla, Trojka,
Trybuchowce, Tudorow, Turylcze, Ulaszkowce, Uscie Biskupie,
Uscieczko, Uwisla, Wasylkowce, Wierzbowka, Winiatynce,
Wolkowce ad Borszczow, Worwolince, Wygnanka, Zadniszowka,
Zaleszczyki, Zascinocze, Zazdrosc, Zbaraz

See you in Orlando.

Susana Leistner Bloch, Coordinator
Suchostaw Region Research Group (SRRG)
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Suchostaw/SRRGhome.html
bloch@mts


Taxpayer lists from towns in the Tarnopol region #poland

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Several years ago, Gesher Galicia acquired copies of a large set of
Jewish taxpayer records >from the 1930s, relating to towns in the
Tarnopol region. The original records are held in the State Archive of
Ternopil Oblast (DATO), in Fond 231/1/3008 and 3009. It appears that
in 2013, a number of these town lists were indexed on a voluntary
basis for Gesher Galicia. Only three of the town spreadsheets though,
appear on the All Galicia Database (AGD) - those for Czortkow,
Kamionka Strumilowa, and Zalozce. Other lists >from this batch were
fairly certainly indexed at the time, but for some reason their
spreadsheets of indexes have gone astray.

A few weeks ago, a Gesher Galicia member came across a spreadsheet
that had been indexed in 2013, but which had not been uploaded to the
AGD, and kindly passed it on to us. These indexes, for Przemyslany
Jewish taxpayers >from 1936, have now been added to our online
database, as announced a couple of days ago. Another taxpayer
spreadsheet, for Zborow, has also since materialized and will soon be
added to the database.

If any reader knows of other spreadsheets >from the Tarnopol-region
batch of Jewish taxpayer lists >from the 1930s, beyond the towns
already mentioned, that were completed for Gesher Galicia, we would be
most grateful to learn of them. Other towns in this large batch of
typewritten records (many of them with carbon-copy duplicates)
include: Borszczow, Brzezany, Grzymalow, Mielnica, Podhajce, Skala,
Tluste, Trembowla, Zbaraz, and Zloczow - as well as Tarnopol itself
(for which there are 1,050 people listed).

Please send any information to <info@geshergalicia.org>. Please do NOT
reply to this email.


Tony Kahane
Chair & Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia


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JRI Poland #Poland Taxpayer lists from towns in the Tarnopol region #poland

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Several years ago, Gesher Galicia acquired copies of a large set of
Jewish taxpayer records >from the 1930s, relating to towns in the
Tarnopol region. The original records are held in the State Archive of
Ternopil Oblast (DATO), in Fond 231/1/3008 and 3009. It appears that
in 2013, a number of these town lists were indexed on a voluntary
basis for Gesher Galicia. Only three of the town spreadsheets though,
appear on the All Galicia Database (AGD) - those for Czortkow,
Kamionka Strumilowa, and Zalozce. Other lists >from this batch were
fairly certainly indexed at the time, but for some reason their
spreadsheets of indexes have gone astray.

A few weeks ago, a Gesher Galicia member came across a spreadsheet
that had been indexed in 2013, but which had not been uploaded to the
AGD, and kindly passed it on to us. These indexes, for Przemyslany
Jewish taxpayers >from 1936, have now been added to our online
database, as announced a couple of days ago. Another taxpayer
spreadsheet, for Zborow, has also since materialized and will soon be
added to the database.

If any reader knows of other spreadsheets >from the Tarnopol-region
batch of Jewish taxpayer lists >from the 1930s, beyond the towns
already mentioned, that were completed for Gesher Galicia, we would be
most grateful to learn of them. Other towns in this large batch of
typewritten records (many of them with carbon-copy duplicates)
include: Borszczow, Brzezany, Grzymalow, Mielnica, Podhajce, Skala,
Tluste, Trembowla, Zbaraz, and Zloczow - as well as Tarnopol itself
(for which there are 1,050 people listed).

Please send any information to <info@geshergalicia.org>. Please do NOT
reply to this email.


Tony Kahane
Chair & Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia


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Viewmate translation request Polish - HITELMAN/WINTERMAN #poland

Jill Lewis
 

Hello, I've posted a vital record in Polish >from which I need a
detail checked. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM56788

The record is for the Marriage of Zelig Hitelman and Taube Malka
Winterman in Miedzyrzec in 1860.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Jill Lewis


JRI Poland #Poland Viewmate translation request Polish - HITELMAN/WINTERMAN #poland

Jill Lewis
 

Hello, I've posted a vital record in Polish >from which I need a
detail checked. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM56788

The record is for the Marriage of Zelig Hitelman and Taube Malka
Winterman in Miedzyrzec in 1860.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Jill Lewis


Re: anyone know this town #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Alva Noonan posted looking for " family lived in Odessa...On papers
she listed the town she was born as Bedizela. I can't find that town
name at all. Anyone have an idea what Bedzilla may be or what country even.

Alva...i looked first in our community pages of 6500 towns with jewish populations
circa 1900 for that town name in the Ukraine...nothing........next, looking for
towns within 30 miles of Odessa,i found Berezen/Berzan, 15 miles >from Odessa. Then
i searched our town finder and came up with this town:

Bedevla now in the Ukraine...(before WWI in Hungary)...altho quite far from
odessa, it is close "sounding"...with the same basic consonants....it has a
Community Page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1035089 with
lots of information and links...also a Kehilalinks page...

hope this works for you...

just a reminder...we have three databases you can search for towns:
1-Search for Jewish Communities The JewishGen Communities
Database...The results will display each community's historical names
and jurisdictions, and a link to further information and resources
about that community.
2-Search for places by name The JewishGen Gazetteer..Search all
localities in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East (~1,800,000
places).The results will display each locality's latitude and
longitude, the distance/direction >from a reference city, and links to
maps.
3-Search for places by location Radius Search. List all localities
within a certain distance of a given latitude / longitude coordinates.

see you at the conference...
Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: www.JewishGen.org/education
family web site: KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm
phylliskramer1@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: anyone know this town #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Alva Noonan posted looking for " family lived in Odessa...On papers
she listed the town she was born as Bedizela. I can't find that town
name at all. Anyone have an idea what Bedzilla may be or what country even.

Alva...i looked first in our community pages of 6500 towns with jewish populations
circa 1900 for that town name in the Ukraine...nothing........next, looking for
towns within 30 miles of Odessa,i found Berezen/Berzan, 15 miles >from Odessa. Then
i searched our town finder and came up with this town:

Bedevla now in the Ukraine...(before WWI in Hungary)...altho quite far from
odessa, it is close "sounding"...with the same basic consonants....it has a
Community Page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1035089 with
lots of information and links...also a Kehilalinks page...

hope this works for you...

just a reminder...we have three databases you can search for towns:
1-Search for Jewish Communities The JewishGen Communities
Database...The results will display each community's historical names
and jurisdictions, and a link to further information and resources
about that community.
2-Search for places by name The JewishGen Gazetteer..Search all
localities in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East (~1,800,000
places).The results will display each locality's latitude and
longitude, the distance/direction >from a reference city, and links to
maps.
3-Search for places by location Radius Search. List all localities
within a certain distance of a given latitude / longitude coordinates.

see you at the conference...
Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: www.JewishGen.org/education
family web site: KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm
phylliskramer1@gmail.com


First name Bernat #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

Has someone ever met the given name Bernat? Is it a Czech given name?

Eve Line Blum
Besancon (France)
http://www.convoi73.org


Re: late birth registration #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

While there were many personal reasons for late registration of a birth,
distance and inertia were likely the most common reasons.

The administrative district arrangement was designed to be roughly
accessible to everyone and they tended to be the market towns where
the market drew people in >from surrounding villages and dorfs. But,
keep in mind that part of Galicia is in the foothills of the Carpathian
mountains. Road conditions and the mountains had to have been a
barrier for some lightly motivated fathers.

In 1986, I traveled >from an ancestral village to the town where
registration would have taken place. The mountain road was paved by
then but, still, it was very narrow and steep. Terrifying, actually.
Because of how long the drive took, I imagined that the distance
between the communities was 30 miles and was shocked to learn that
it was 7. If I had to travel that road in a wagon when it was unpaved, it
might have taken the better part of a day.

I rather think that people living in rural areas must have had quite a
few challenges in getting to town. And, if the father didn't care all that
much about complying with registration rules, oh, well. Compliance
became important when it came time for the child to enroll in school,
obtain travel documents, have a civil marriage, obtain a business
license or some other official permission.

My experience with researching the records is that late registration is
relatively rare as compared to those registrations that were on time.
Changes in registration information was much more common,
particularly as civil marriage became more the norm than the
exception in the 1900-1942 period.

Suzan Wynne
author, The Galitzianers: The Jews of Galicia, 1772-1918.

==

Eli Brauner <elib8@bezeqint.net> wrote:

<<The phenomena of late birth registration in Galicia and elsewhere
is well known. The reasons for late registration are various most of
them connected with taxes and military service. Yet I wonder why
bother and register at all the newcomers? Is there an article that
deals with this procedure?>>

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