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Confirming Family Relationships #dna

Stephen Mednick <smednick@...>
 

I've been in contact with someone who's MEDNICK ancestors came >from the same
town as my Grandfather. I was supplied with a photograph that I forwarded
together with two photographs of my grandfather taken 20 years apart to a
friend of mine who has been in the photographic business for over 30 years.

I didn't tell him who was who in each of the 3 photographs but he correctly
identified the two photographs of my grandfather as being the same person. As
for the 3rd photograph he said there were enough common characteristics (eyes,
nose, lips) to strongly suggest that there is a family connection. As to
whether the two men are brothers remains to be seen.

I was wondering if DNA testing of close descendents of the two people could
conclusively establish as to whether or not the two people might have been
brothers. I'd welcome any comments on this and also if it was an option how
does one go about arranging DNA testing. Are there private facilities in the
US that carry out this type work for people walking off the street wanting
their own DNA testing done?

Thanks.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@css.au.com

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)


DNA Research #DNA Confirming Family Relationships #dna

Stephen Mednick <smednick@...>
 

I've been in contact with someone who's MEDNICK ancestors came >from the same
town as my Grandfather. I was supplied with a photograph that I forwarded
together with two photographs of my grandfather taken 20 years apart to a
friend of mine who has been in the photographic business for over 30 years.

I didn't tell him who was who in each of the 3 photographs but he correctly
identified the two photographs of my grandfather as being the same person. As
for the 3rd photograph he said there were enough common characteristics (eyes,
nose, lips) to strongly suggest that there is a family connection. As to
whether the two men are brothers remains to be seen.

I was wondering if DNA testing of close descendents of the two people could
conclusively establish as to whether or not the two people might have been
brothers. I'd welcome any comments on this and also if it was an option how
does one go about arranging DNA testing. Are there private facilities in the
US that carry out this type work for people walking off the street wanting
their own DNA testing done?

Thanks.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@css.au.com

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)


Not able to answer 9.-27. April #belarus

aleksasha <aleksasha@...>
 

Dear friends,

april 9 till april 27 I will be away and will not be able to answer your
e-mail.

Sincerely,

Alexander Nezlin
(surname added by moderator)

PLEASE, PLEASE **DO** REMEMBER TO SIGN WITH FULL NAME!
Thank you in anticipation
Moderator on duty


Belarus SIG #Belarus Not able to answer 9.-27. April #belarus

aleksasha <aleksasha@...>
 

Dear friends,

april 9 till april 27 I will be away and will not be able to answer your
e-mail.

Sincerely,

Alexander Nezlin
(surname added by moderator)

PLEASE, PLEASE **DO** REMEMBER TO SIGN WITH FULL NAME!
Thank you in anticipation
Moderator on duty


: given name Lazel ? #belarus

Udi Cain
 

Dear Alexander.

Just like Lazer is a nickname for Eliezer, Lazel could be for Uzziel.
Leviticus chapter 10 / 4:
"And Moses called Mishael and Elzaphan, the sons of Uzziel the uncle
of Aaron, and said to them, Come near, carry your brothers >from before
the sanctuary out of the camp."

It also remind of ancient Greek names, but I wouldn't want to add to
the confusion.

Best regards.
Udi Cain. Jerusalem.

-----------------
Alexander Kott wrote:
What might be the origin of the given masculine name
Lazel?
...snip...
-----------------


Belarus SIG #Belarus : given name Lazel ? #belarus

Udi Cain
 

Dear Alexander.

Just like Lazer is a nickname for Eliezer, Lazel could be for Uzziel.
Leviticus chapter 10 / 4:
"And Moses called Mishael and Elzaphan, the sons of Uzziel the uncle
of Aaron, and said to them, Come near, carry your brothers >from before
the sanctuary out of the camp."

It also remind of ancient Greek names, but I wouldn't want to add to
the confusion.

Best regards.
Udi Cain. Jerusalem.

-----------------
Alexander Kott wrote:
What might be the origin of the given masculine name
Lazel?
...snip...
-----------------


Colorado and Arizona death indices #general

Alan Steinfeld <alan.steinfeld@...>
 

Does anyone know if there are on-line indices to deaths in these
states? I'm interested in deaths that occured in the early 1950's.

Thanks,
Alan Steinfeld


Re: Writing to family members in Israel #general

Bud484BG@...
 

Hello everyone:

I have just received addresses for family members >from Kiev who emigrated
ten years ago to Rishon Le Zion, Israel. My question: what is the
language I need to correspond with them?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California
EMail: bud484bg@aol.com


Info on death cert. and data given #general

Suee20@...
 

Hi: I just received my gfathers death certificate. I sent for it
because I wanted to get the last address where I had visited him and go
back and see the bldg. Well!!!!!! My uncle who signed for it, listed
the wrong address as his residence. He listed the address where I was
living with my family. My gfather did not live with us or in the bldg.

I wonder what address was listed as he entered the hospital, but I don't
think I can get those records.

I called Maimondes Hosp. and they said they only keep records for 7
years. Does anyone have any suggestions where I could find his last
address.

He did not have a Social Security number,he was born in Russsia. He is
listed as retired. I have no idea where he last worked.
He was a citizen.

It took 19 days to get the certificate. But I went in person and paid
in cash.

The funeral parlour is listed as Zion Memorial Chapel on 41 Canal
Street. There is no directors name listed. It is no longer there.

Thank you.

Regards,
Sue Smithe
Queens, NY
Email: Suee20@webtv.net


A Kosher and "Freilech" (Happy) Passover #general

Simon Barak
 

Avrumy Heschel wrote:
"Wishing All A Kosher and "Freilech" (Happy) Passover,(This has been for
many years the traditional Passover salutation - and undoubtly was used by
many of our ancestors).

At least among the Habbadnicks, starting in the month of Adar (i.e. before
Purim) the traditional salutation was: A Koshern Purim un a Freileichn
Peisach. The reason for this mishmash was that the Rebbe explained once
that every Jew makes ultimate efforts to have an happy Purim and a Kosher
Peisach, thus our wishes should be that Purim shall be not only Merry but
also Kosher and Peisach not only Kosher but also Happy.

Moadim Lesimha - Zmanim Lesason

Dr Shimon Barak
Tel Aviv, Israel
Researching the following surnames:
BARG, BARK, BARCK, BERGĀ  (Anywhere but especially Ukraine & Argentina)
please visit our Homepage at www.geocities.com/bargfamily)
MAURER, NEUMANN (Drohobycz, Boryslaw and Lwow)
TAJMAN, TAKHMAN, TOKER, AXMAN (Chisinau, Argentina)
HOLZMANN (Przasnysz, Poland and Israel)
SILBERSTEIN (Warsaw and Tel Aviv)


Free Moscow Search #general

Sergei Komarov <komarov_sergei@...>
 

Dear Jenners!

I'm Sergei >from Moscow.
I continue to help everyone who need my help. What I can: not very hard
seach work and russian/english translation. I can help you up the language
and national dificulties, you have sure: other country, other sistem. I
can phone to some people or organisation you need. I know about,so as I
have such problem into your country.

I want to write about my first conclusions.

I contacted about 20 or more people this year after my fist offer.
The most of them have the surname of their relative (the only), sometimes
you have names of all relatives und family history.

My tools: its not very full - Moscow phone base provide seach by address
or by phone or by surname. Sometimes information is wrong becouse the base
is full throu the owners of phone numbers, but when man changes his flat
this info don't change the most case. The same time there are a lot of
right information in this base also.

The surname is not very usfull so as it go by male line, sometimes is
changes (my father changed his surname Gelerman to Gegerman, sometimes it
go by female line (my example also). People frightened to have jew suname
(my example also). Other problem is spelling. It's easily to say: search
all of variants!

Why is usfull( und I ask you) other more information you know about your
family? When I call to your samesurnamer in Moscow I have to say him some
in order he can understand if he have relation to your family.

A root search is successful very seldom. But my request is to answer my
letter of results of search that I sent you in order I can see what is the
result and correct new searching.

When I don't answer your fist request letter so is mean I havn't time
today but I answer all letters. If you want write again, may be there is
some mail problem so on.

Not very(about 20%) people in Moscow have internet, sometimes don't know
what it is. You can have connection by me also.
More people in Moscow know English.

My help is free.

Please write privetly the address you see down the list.

Sergei.Moscow.
prokat@comtv.ru


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Colorado and Arizona death indices #general

Alan Steinfeld <alan.steinfeld@...>
 

Does anyone know if there are on-line indices to deaths in these
states? I'm interested in deaths that occured in the early 1950's.

Thanks,
Alan Steinfeld


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Writing to family members in Israel #general

Bud484BG@...
 

Hello everyone:

I have just received addresses for family members >from Kiev who emigrated
ten years ago to Rishon Le Zion, Israel. My question: what is the
language I need to correspond with them?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California
EMail: bud484bg@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Info on death cert. and data given #general

Suee20@...
 

Hi: I just received my gfathers death certificate. I sent for it
because I wanted to get the last address where I had visited him and go
back and see the bldg. Well!!!!!! My uncle who signed for it, listed
the wrong address as his residence. He listed the address where I was
living with my family. My gfather did not live with us or in the bldg.

I wonder what address was listed as he entered the hospital, but I don't
think I can get those records.

I called Maimondes Hosp. and they said they only keep records for 7
years. Does anyone have any suggestions where I could find his last
address.

He did not have a Social Security number,he was born in Russsia. He is
listed as retired. I have no idea where he last worked.
He was a citizen.

It took 19 days to get the certificate. But I went in person and paid
in cash.

The funeral parlour is listed as Zion Memorial Chapel on 41 Canal
Street. There is no directors name listed. It is no longer there.

Thank you.

Regards,
Sue Smithe
Queens, NY
Email: Suee20@webtv.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Kosher and "Freilech" (Happy) Passover #general

Simon Barak
 

Avrumy Heschel wrote:
"Wishing All A Kosher and "Freilech" (Happy) Passover,(This has been for
many years the traditional Passover salutation - and undoubtly was used by
many of our ancestors).

At least among the Habbadnicks, starting in the month of Adar (i.e. before
Purim) the traditional salutation was: A Koshern Purim un a Freileichn
Peisach. The reason for this mishmash was that the Rebbe explained once
that every Jew makes ultimate efforts to have an happy Purim and a Kosher
Peisach, thus our wishes should be that Purim shall be not only Merry but
also Kosher and Peisach not only Kosher but also Happy.

Moadim Lesimha - Zmanim Lesason

Dr Shimon Barak
Tel Aviv, Israel
Researching the following surnames:
BARG, BARK, BARCK, BERGĀ  (Anywhere but especially Ukraine & Argentina)
please visit our Homepage at www.geocities.com/bargfamily)
MAURER, NEUMANN (Drohobycz, Boryslaw and Lwow)
TAJMAN, TAKHMAN, TOKER, AXMAN (Chisinau, Argentina)
HOLZMANN (Przasnysz, Poland and Israel)
SILBERSTEIN (Warsaw and Tel Aviv)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Free Moscow Search #general

Sergei Komarov <komarov_sergei@...>
 

Dear Jenners!

I'm Sergei >from Moscow.
I continue to help everyone who need my help. What I can: not very hard
seach work and russian/english translation. I can help you up the language
and national dificulties, you have sure: other country, other sistem. I
can phone to some people or organisation you need. I know about,so as I
have such problem into your country.

I want to write about my first conclusions.

I contacted about 20 or more people this year after my fist offer.
The most of them have the surname of their relative (the only), sometimes
you have names of all relatives und family history.

My tools: its not very full - Moscow phone base provide seach by address
or by phone or by surname. Sometimes information is wrong becouse the base
is full throu the owners of phone numbers, but when man changes his flat
this info don't change the most case. The same time there are a lot of
right information in this base also.

The surname is not very usfull so as it go by male line, sometimes is
changes (my father changed his surname Gelerman to Gegerman, sometimes it
go by female line (my example also). People frightened to have jew suname
(my example also). Other problem is spelling. It's easily to say: search
all of variants!

Why is usfull( und I ask you) other more information you know about your
family? When I call to your samesurnamer in Moscow I have to say him some
in order he can understand if he have relation to your family.

A root search is successful very seldom. But my request is to answer my
letter of results of search that I sent you in order I can see what is the
result and correct new searching.

When I don't answer your fist request letter so is mean I havn't time
today but I answer all letters. If you want write again, may be there is
some mail problem so on.

Not very(about 20%) people in Moscow have internet, sometimes don't know
what it is. You can have connection by me also.
More people in Moscow know English.

My help is free.

Please write privetly the address you see down the list.

Sergei.Moscow.
prokat@comtv.ru


Ashkenazy Given Names #general

Lawrence Blum <lawblum@...>
 

Ashkenazy Jews, usually, name the newborn after a departed relative. A
way of carrying on a name. Sometimes the deceased had two names.
Sometimes there were two people, perhaps one >from each side of the family.
And so, two names.

The question of English names. The English name may have nothing at all
do with the Hebrew (or Yiddish) name. With spelling of Hebrew (or
Yiddish) given names, spelling don't alway count. It depended on the
scribe, who wrote the name. They wrote what they heard.
Larry Blum of Port Richey, Fl


Texas-Jewish Cemetery et al #general

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

Just posssibly, these might help some Genners
out there: strongly recommending as I do every
post, join Rootsweb too.

e-mail: rootsweb-review-subscribe@rootsweb.com

TX-ROCKDALE-JEWISH-CEM-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail mode) or to

TX-ROCKDALE-JEWISH-CEM-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode).
Jewish Cemetery, Rockdale, Milam County, Texas

PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles >from ROOTSWEB REVIEW is granted
unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint
is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the
following notice appears at the end of the article:
Written by [author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if
given]. Previously published by RootsWeb.com, Inc., RootsWeb
Review: RootsWeb's Genealogy News, Vol. 4, No. 6, 7 February
2001. RootsWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/

Miriam Margolyes
Santa Monica


Location help: Dniepropov, Bessarabia #general

Bruce Reisch <bir1@...>
 

Dear Genners:

A friend of mine is trying to locate his grandfather's shtetl, known
to him as Dniepropov, Bessarabia. I believe this area is now known
as Moldova. Other clues - it was a very small town, near the Black
Sea, and likely on or near the Dniepr River.

All suggestions welcome!

Bruce Reisch
Geneva, New York
RADAUTZ: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/radauti/radautz.html
SADGURA: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/sadgura/sadgura.html
Researching: REISCH, SCHECHTER, FEUERSTEIN - Sadgura, Bukowina, Ukraine
SCHACHTER, BRUCKER/BRUKER, HALPERN - Radauti, Bukowina, Romania
BRUCKER/BRUKER - Solca, Bukowina, Romania
WEISSMAN - Brody, Galicia, Ukraine SCHACHTER - Okup, Ukraine


Re: Is This Bill Customary for Genealogical Research? #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Before JRI got involved in East Galicia, the Pikholz Project undertook
its own project to coordinate searches for a group of surnames based
on participation in the search expenses and individual oreders for the
records themselves.

It involved (and still does) a huge amount of rewarding but
uncompensated work on our part, but we get the side benefit of
seeing everyone else's records and occasionally picking up some
that the archives missed.

Some of the people who have joined this project have been very
appreciative, realizing that to do the same on their own would have
cost much more. Others complain alot.

Life is tough that way. If you ask for a surname search, the archives
will charge you for each of the twins born to the parents in question,
even if both died before even being named. But you pay the
researcher to do, not always to think. Occasionally you will find half a
dozen births to the same couple but only one has some critical piece
of information.

That said, $550 for seventeen records seems like alot to me, without
warning. I'd think that unless very specifically agreed beforehand, the
travel and food are included in the charges.

Israel Pickholtz