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Researching in Chernigov?? #ukraine

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

Does anyone have any information or ideas on accessing external or internal
researchers for archives in Chernigov/Chernihiv, Ukraine, and how research
goes there? Apparently it may be that records for Surazh, Russia may be
there since prior to the Revolution Surazh was part of the Chernigov gubernia.

Thanks,

David Goldman


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Researching in Chernigov?? #ukraine

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

Does anyone have any information or ideas on accessing external or internal
researchers for archives in Chernigov/Chernihiv, Ukraine, and how research
goes there? Apparently it may be that records for Surazh, Russia may be
there since prior to the Revolution Surazh was part of the Chernigov gubernia.

Thanks,

David Goldman


Need help identifying Holocaust victims #ukraine

shogold@...
 

Dear All,

Does anyone know how I can find out the names of my grandfather's nieces
and nephews who were killed by the Nazis in the summer of 1941? I know
the exact town (Gorodok, in Podolia) and the names of the parents (my
grandfather's sisters and brothers and their spouses) with the exception
of one sister and brother-in-law. I also have a group family photograph
taken in the late twenties or early thirties. This generation of kids
were probably born in the twenties and thirties, making some of them
teens at the time of the German invasion, when everyone was rounded up
into ghettos then taken to the woods and shot. My understanding is that
the murder squads did not record their victim's names as was later done
in the concentration camps, and so I will need to get access to birth and
marriage certificates, probably by hiring a professional to go through
the archives in the Ukraine. Does anyone have a researcher to recommend,
or know of a simpler method? The town has no yizkor book and the
landsmanshaft society is disbanded.

Thanks.

Shoshanna Sanders
New York, NY

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Any referral for researchers should be done privately. Other helpful advice can be posted here.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Need help identifying Holocaust victims #ukraine

shogold@...
 

Dear All,

Does anyone know how I can find out the names of my grandfather's nieces
and nephews who were killed by the Nazis in the summer of 1941? I know
the exact town (Gorodok, in Podolia) and the names of the parents (my
grandfather's sisters and brothers and their spouses) with the exception
of one sister and brother-in-law. I also have a group family photograph
taken in the late twenties or early thirties. This generation of kids
were probably born in the twenties and thirties, making some of them
teens at the time of the German invasion, when everyone was rounded up
into ghettos then taken to the woods and shot. My understanding is that
the murder squads did not record their victim's names as was later done
in the concentration camps, and so I will need to get access to birth and
marriage certificates, probably by hiring a professional to go through
the archives in the Ukraine. Does anyone have a researcher to recommend,
or know of a simpler method? The town has no yizkor book and the
landsmanshaft society is disbanded.

Thanks.

Shoshanna Sanders
New York, NY

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Any referral for researchers should be done privately. Other helpful advice can be posted here.


Polish Massacre #ukraine

roman.vilner@...
 

This is an article >from today's NYTimes. Rather
interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/19/world/19POLA.html

PS The NYTimes requires free registration.

Roman Vilner
Brooklyn, NY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Polish Massacre #ukraine

roman.vilner@...
 

This is an article >from today's NYTimes. Rather
interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/19/world/19POLA.html

PS The NYTimes requires free registration.

Roman Vilner
Brooklyn, NY


ELLIS ISLAND-CASTLE HARBOR #lithuania

theentins <theentins@...>
 

Does anyone have any information about the immigrants to Castle Harbor going online someday as Ellis Island has done. This would pre 1892 when Ellis Island opened and replaced Castle Harbor.

This information concerning immigrants >from about 1870 to 1890 would be of
great significance to many of us whose ancestors arrived in New York during
that period and which arrivals are as yet not indexed.

Jeffrey S. Entin
Fall River, MA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania ELLIS ISLAND-CASTLE HARBOR #lithuania

theentins <theentins@...>
 

Does anyone have any information about the immigrants to Castle Harbor going online someday as Ellis Island has done. This would pre 1892 when Ellis Island opened and replaced Castle Harbor.

This information concerning immigrants >from about 1870 to 1890 would be of
great significance to many of us whose ancestors arrived in New York during
that period and which arrivals are as yet not indexed.

Jeffrey S. Entin
Fall River, MA


Re: Griva location #lithuania

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Griva was close to Daugavpils( Dvinsk)in Latvia. Daugavplis is in the
southern part of Latvia near Lithuania. Griva became a suburb of
Daugavpils in modern Latvia and so is not found on the modern maps. Morton
was looking for a Lithuanian connection. Griva was near the Lithuanian
northern border and many ancestors went back and forth between Latvia and
Lithuania.

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

Programme Committee
London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001
info.london2001@talk21.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re:Griva location #lithuania

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Griva was close to Daugavpils( Dvinsk)in Latvia. Daugavplis is in the
southern part of Latvia near Lithuania. Griva became a suburb of
Daugavpils in modern Latvia and so is not found on the modern maps. Morton
was looking for a Lithuanian connection. Griva was near the Lithuanian
northern border and many ancestors went back and forth between Latvia and
Lithuania.

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

Programme Committee
London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001
info.london2001@talk21.com


Re: Where is Griwe? #lithuania

Steve Eller <steve-eller@...>
 

I believe the best possibility for "Griwe in Russland" would be my
family's home town of Griva, Kurland, Latvia. It was a village just
across the river >from Dvinsk. Dvinsk is now known as Daugavpils and has
grown so much that it has swallowed up Griva and made it a neighborhood
in or suburb of Daugavpils. I recall that Griva either has it's own website or a page on the Daugavpils website. Certainly you can
locate it using www.Mapquest.com

Steve Eller
Baltimore MD


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Where is Griwe? #lithuania

Steve Eller <steve-eller@...>
 

I believe the best possibility for "Griwe in Russland" would be my
family's home town of Griva, Kurland, Latvia. It was a village just
across the river >from Dvinsk. Dvinsk is now known as Daugavpils and has
grown so much that it has swallowed up Griva and made it a neighborhood
in or suburb of Daugavpils. I recall that Griva either has it's own website or a page on the Daugavpils website. Certainly you can
locate it using www.Mapquest.com

Steve Eller
Baltimore MD


Need help in Montreal #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

Earlier this year, I saw a message stating the following:

<<Fruma Kreanowitz Eliashevich, a survivor living in Montreal, Canada is
searching for two sisters she was close friends with in the Kovno ghetto,
the Riga ghetto, Stutthoff Concentration camp, and Dachau where they were
liberated. She last saw them more than 30 years ago. After the war, they
went to Buffalo, NY and, later on, moved to Atlanta.

The sisters are:
Shulamit Shohat Rosenfeld - her husband's name is not known.
Tsipe (Cipe, Zipe) Shohat Glazer. Her husband's name was Elusa
Glazer. >>

I have located Shulamit Shohat Rosenfeld (now Shirley Rosenfield) here in
Atlanta but now am unable to find the original information on how to contact Fruma Eliashevich in Montreal. I checked the archived messages in Jewishgen and also in the Litvak SIG without success.

If someone in Montreal can tell me how to contact Ms. Eliashevich, I would
appreciate it. Shirley Rosenfield says she would love to renew their
friendship after all these years. Please contact me privately and not through the Digest.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@aol.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Need help in Montreal #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

Earlier this year, I saw a message stating the following:

<<Fruma Kreanowitz Eliashevich, a survivor living in Montreal, Canada is
searching for two sisters she was close friends with in the Kovno ghetto,
the Riga ghetto, Stutthoff Concentration camp, and Dachau where they were
liberated. She last saw them more than 30 years ago. After the war, they
went to Buffalo, NY and, later on, moved to Atlanta.

The sisters are:
Shulamit Shohat Rosenfeld - her husband's name is not known.
Tsipe (Cipe, Zipe) Shohat Glazer. Her husband's name was Elusa
Glazer. >>

I have located Shulamit Shohat Rosenfeld (now Shirley Rosenfield) here in
Atlanta but now am unable to find the original information on how to contact Fruma Eliashevich in Montreal. I checked the archived messages in Jewishgen and also in the Litvak SIG without success.

If someone in Montreal can tell me how to contact Ms. Eliashevich, I would
appreciate it. Shirley Rosenfield says she would love to renew their
friendship after all these years. Please contact me privately and not through the Digest.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@aol.com


Berkovetsky Cemetery in Kiev #ukraine

Bud484BG@...
 

Hello:

I have just been given information that my mother's sister and husband were
buried
in the Berkovetsky Cemetery in Kiev, prior to WW2 (1937-39). Is anyone
familiar with this cemetery? I looked through the International Cemetery
list already and couldn't find it.

Thanks for any suggestions.


Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California
bud484bg@aol.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Berkovetsky Cemetery in Kiev #ukraine

Bud484BG@...
 

Hello:

I have just been given information that my mother's sister and husband were
buried
in the Berkovetsky Cemetery in Kiev, prior to WW2 (1937-39). Is anyone
familiar with this cemetery? I looked through the International Cemetery
list already and couldn't find it.

Thanks for any suggestions.


Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California
bud484bg@aol.com


Remembrance Assembly #lodz #poland

Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
 

You are kindly invited on Yom HaShoa, 12 L'Omer, Nisan 27,
5760, April 19th , 2001, to attend the annual Remembrance Assembly to
the Martyrs of Lodz which will take place at 15:30 in the cemetery of
Hulon, near the Lodz memorial.
Israel.

Shalom,

Ada Holtzman
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Remembrance Assembly #lodz #poland

Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
 

You are kindly invited on Yom HaShoa, 12 L'Omer, Nisan 27,
5760, April 19th , 2001, to attend the annual Remembrance Assembly to
the Martyrs of Lodz which will take place at 15:30 in the cemetery of
Hulon, near the Lodz memorial.
Israel.

Shalom,

Ada Holtzman
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/


Re: Surnames in Russian census #ukraine

Jeffrey Knisbacher <jknisbac@...>
 

Surnames in Russian census:

My guess is that it was 1811. At least we got some census results back
from Anton Valdine in Moscow a couple of years ago that began with
information >from that date. On the other hand, I wonder if the surnames
that were chosen (or given out?) at around that time may not have been used
by family members way before then, especially if they had roots in
Czechoslovakia (where the Prague Jewish cemetery shows surnames >from at
least as early as the 1500s), or other parts more northerly or westerly
(e.g., Spain, where surnames were used a few hundred years even before
that). Jeff Knisbacher, Owings Mills, MD

----- Original Message -----

Who know when Jews in Russian Empire census in Ukraine began to use
surname
in census? 1795? 1811?

Regards Kolker Alexander


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Surnames in Russian census #ukraine

Jeffrey Knisbacher <jknisbac@...>
 

Surnames in Russian census:

My guess is that it was 1811. At least we got some census results back
from Anton Valdine in Moscow a couple of years ago that began with
information >from that date. On the other hand, I wonder if the surnames
that were chosen (or given out?) at around that time may not have been used
by family members way before then, especially if they had roots in
Czechoslovakia (where the Prague Jewish cemetery shows surnames >from at
least as early as the 1500s), or other parts more northerly or westerly
(e.g., Spain, where surnames were used a few hundred years even before
that). Jeff Knisbacher, Owings Mills, MD

----- Original Message -----

Who know when Jews in Russian Empire census in Ukraine began to use
surname
in census? 1795? 1811?

Regards Kolker Alexander