" It does not name the court or give a petition number. Where do I go from
here with this?"

Joy,

If you go back to the Ancestry site and search again for the name, once
you are on the screen with his nat info look all the way at the bottom of
the screen, it will say something like "more information on this
database", click on that and you'll get a whole page of info, including
where these nats are held and where to write.

BTW, dups of all post 1906 nats are supposed to be held by INS. So,
sending a G639 form to INS should be another option (if it's post 1906).
You can print out the form at the INS web site.

good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

" It does not name the court or give a petition number. Where do I go from
here with this?"

Joy,

If you go back to the Ancestry site and search again for the name, once
you are on the screen with his nat info look all the way at the bottom of
the screen, it will say something like "more information on this
database", click on that and you'll get a whole page of info, including
where these nats are held and where to write.

BTW, dups of all post 1906 nats are supposed to be held by INS. So,
sending a G639 form to INS should be another option (if it's post 1906).
You can print out the form at the INS web site.

good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Dear Jewish genners,

Some hours ago I saw a letter headig for the town of Ostrowce(or
Ostrowice).Unfortunately the message was deleted before I had a chance to
read it. If it is not too much to ask could the writer repost the
letter. While not coming >from there,I have an ongoing research into the
life of the world renowned rebbe of the town Hagaon reb Mayer Yechiel
Halevy Halsztock. At the time of his passing in 1929, he was considered
one of the worlds' great rabbinical figures. His great knowledge was
accompanied by a unique style in which he analysed any
numbers, weights, measurements or calculations in the Torah and
in "Gematria"(a system of Numerical values assigned to the letters of the
Hebrew alphabet) proved them correct--sometimes calculating 6 figures
by other astronomical numbers. His death was also announced in the
press, as the Tzadik who fasted 40 years --only eating after 9 at night --
renerallya cup of coffee and some cereal--at times he skipped that too.
His kindness, love of Jews, and Eretz Yisroel were legendary.
Unfortunately all his family were murdered in the holocaust as well as
his Chasidim. If anyone out there knows anything about him or has
newspaper cuttings after his passing, or knows any people >from the town of
Ostrovtze(as the jews called it) or if they know anyone who was an
Ostrovtze chosid, I would appreciate hearing >from them privately. Only
some descendants through the old rabbis' daughter are today alive in
Israel.--(one grandson survived the Holocaust) as you can imagine there
are few primary sources of information alive today and nothing in print
tha has not been found to date.

Rabbi Mendal Katz KFAR HAROEH Israel
I may be reached at my E-mail-address. Thanks in advance.

Dear Jewish genners,

Some hours ago I saw a letter headig for the town of Ostrowce(or
Ostrowice).Unfortunately the message was deleted before I had a chance to
read it. If it is not too much to ask could the writer repost the
letter. While not coming >from there,I have an ongoing research into the
life of the world renowned rebbe of the town Hagaon reb Mayer Yechiel
Halevy Halsztock. At the time of his passing in 1929, he was considered
one of the worlds' great rabbinical figures. His great knowledge was
accompanied by a unique style in which he analysed any
numbers, weights, measurements or calculations in the Torah and
in "Gematria"(a system of Numerical values assigned to the letters of the
Hebrew alphabet) proved them correct--sometimes calculating 6 figures
by other astronomical numbers. His death was also announced in the
press, as the Tzadik who fasted 40 years --only eating after 9 at night --
renerallya cup of coffee and some cereal--at times he skipped that too.
His kindness, love of Jews, and Eretz Yisroel were legendary.
Unfortunately all his family were murdered in the holocaust as well as
his Chasidim. If anyone out there knows anything about him or has
newspaper cuttings after his passing, or knows any people >from the town of
Ostrovtze(as the jews called it) or if they know anyone who was an
Ostrovtze chosid, I would appreciate hearing >from them privately. Only
some descendants through the old rabbis' daughter are today alive in
Israel.--(one grandson survived the Holocaust) as you can imagine there
are few primary sources of information alive today and nothing in print
tha has not been found to date.

Rabbi Mendal Katz KFAR HAROEH Israel
I may be reached at my E-mail-address. Thanks in advance.

First Generation

1. Abaham (Abraham) KRABBE was born on January 16, 1797 in Kerkwerve,
Zeeland, Netherlands. He died on March 30, 1841 in Kerkwerve, Zeeland,
Netherlands. He was not legally married to Jacomijntje Ringelberg. He was
her gardener and rented a room in her house. Abaham was Jewish.

According to Carl and Marlene Bylenga (BC Canada) and Cor van der Wekken
(Kerkwerve, Netherlands): Abraham Krabbe was married to a Ms. Verboom was
apparently sickly or mentally ill. Jacomijntje became Abraham's housekeeper
while she ran a small shop. The shop was later operated by Tone Pie.
Abraham was a carpenter.

The marriage of Abraham Krabbe and Dina Verboom (28 Jun 1817) was confirmed
by the Archivist at Schouwen-Duiveland.

Abraham Krabbe and Jacomijntje Ringelberg had these four four natural
children: Maarten, Lena, Nikolaas, and Hendrik. Abraham Krabbe
acknowledges these four natural children by birth as their father:
Maarten, Lena, Nikolaas, and Hendrik. By document of acknowledgement the
name Ringelberg was changed to Krabbe.

Jacomijntje RINGELBERG (daughter of Hendrik RINGELBERG and Lene BOUWMAN)
was born on February 6, 1803 in Duivendijke, Netherlands. She was
baptized on February 20, 1803 in Duivendijke, Netherlands. She died on
May 12, 1881 in Kerkwerve, Zeeland, Netherlands. Johan Baptist Karel
Ringelberg has date of death as 12 May 1881 in Kerkwerve, Netherlands.
This date was confirmed by the Archivist at Schouwen-Duiveland. She was a
shopkeeper in Kerwerve. She first married Pieter Hilleman born in
Ellemeet. She was never legally married to Abaham Krabbe, her Jewish
gardener, born in Kerkwerve, or with Cornelis Strooband, born in
Zierikzee. Abaham (Abraham) KRABBE and Jacomijntje RINGELBERG had the
following children:

+2 i. Maarten RINGELBERG (KRABBE) (born on February 5, 1834).
3 ii. Lena RINGELBERG (KRABBE) was born on February 25, 1835.
+4 iii. Nicholas RINGELBERG (KRABBE) (born on December 21, 1836).
+5 iv. Hendrik RINGELBERG (KRABBE) (born on December 23, 1838).
6 v. Abrozina RINGELBERG (KRABBE) was born on December 8, 1841 in
Kerkwerve, Zeeland, Netherlands. Aalbrecht Krabbe, brother of Abraham
Krabbe, registered the birth. She died on June 4, 1846 in Kerkwerve,
Zeeland, Netherlands.

He was married to Dina VERBOOM on June 28, 1817 in Kerkwerve, Zeeland,
Netherlands.

Larry D. Loiselle

First Generation

1. Abaham (Abraham) KRABBE was born on January 16, 1797 in Kerkwerve,
Zeeland, Netherlands. He died on March 30, 1841 in Kerkwerve, Zeeland,
Netherlands. He was not legally married to Jacomijntje Ringelberg. He was
her gardener and rented a room in her house. Abaham was Jewish.

According to Carl and Marlene Bylenga (BC Canada) and Cor van der Wekken
(Kerkwerve, Netherlands): Abraham Krabbe was married to a Ms. Verboom was
apparently sickly or mentally ill. Jacomijntje became Abraham's housekeeper
while she ran a small shop. The shop was later operated by Tone Pie.
Abraham was a carpenter.

The marriage of Abraham Krabbe and Dina Verboom (28 Jun 1817) was confirmed
by the Archivist at Schouwen-Duiveland.

Abraham Krabbe and Jacomijntje Ringelberg had these four four natural
children: Maarten, Lena, Nikolaas, and Hendrik. Abraham Krabbe
acknowledges these four natural children by birth as their father:
Maarten, Lena, Nikolaas, and Hendrik. By document of acknowledgement the
name Ringelberg was changed to Krabbe.

Jacomijntje RINGELBERG (daughter of Hendrik RINGELBERG and Lene BOUWMAN)
was born on February 6, 1803 in Duivendijke, Netherlands. She was
baptized on February 20, 1803 in Duivendijke, Netherlands. She died on
May 12, 1881 in Kerkwerve, Zeeland, Netherlands. Johan Baptist Karel
Ringelberg has date of death as 12 May 1881 in Kerkwerve, Netherlands.
This date was confirmed by the Archivist at Schouwen-Duiveland. She was a
shopkeeper in Kerwerve. She first married Pieter Hilleman born in
Ellemeet. She was never legally married to Abaham Krabbe, her Jewish
gardener, born in Kerkwerve, or with Cornelis Strooband, born in
Zierikzee. Abaham (Abraham) KRABBE and Jacomijntje RINGELBERG had the
following children:

+2 i. Maarten RINGELBERG (KRABBE) (born on February 5, 1834).
3 ii. Lena RINGELBERG (KRABBE) was born on February 25, 1835.
+4 iii. Nicholas RINGELBERG (KRABBE) (born on December 21, 1836).
+5 iv. Hendrik RINGELBERG (KRABBE) (born on December 23, 1838).
6 v. Abrozina RINGELBERG (KRABBE) was born on December 8, 1841 in
Kerkwerve, Zeeland, Netherlands. Aalbrecht Krabbe, brother of Abraham
Krabbe, registered the birth. She died on June 4, 1846 in Kerkwerve,
Zeeland, Netherlands.

He was married to Dina VERBOOM on June 28, 1817 in Kerkwerve, Zeeland,
Netherlands.

Larry D. Loiselle

Dear friends,
I did not find any of my MENDELSSOHNs on JRI-Poland (all born in Warszawa
between 1854 and 1865) and I have two questions:
1)what could be the Hebrew or Yiddish firstnames for:
- Izydor Isaac (b. 20.10.1854)

- Maurice (b.28.07.1855)
- Henryck
- Felicia Natalia (b.20.10.1862)
- Rose
..I just learned that Zygmunt was "Symcha" (b.02.07.1857) and that Helene
could be "Chaja".
2)Knowing the birthdate for some of them (through naturalisation papers)
where should I write to have a chance to find their birth-acts ?
Thank you.Best regards,
Florence Mendelssohn (Paris,France)

Searching :
-(Poland, 19th): MENDELSSOHN (Warszawa,Zamosc);SZULCMAN (Warszawa);KOHN ;
DUTLINGER ; PRENTKI/PRENTKA; KAMINSKI.
-RUBINSTEIN (Kharkov,St Petersburg)
-RABINOWITZ (Israel)

Dear friends,
I did not find any of my MENDELSSOHNs on JRI-Poland (all born in Warszawa
between 1854 and 1865) and I have two questions:
1)what could be the Hebrew or Yiddish firstnames for:
- Izydor Isaac (b. 20.10.1854)

- Maurice (b.28.07.1855)
- Henryck
- Felicia Natalia (b.20.10.1862)
- Rose
..I just learned that Zygmunt was "Symcha" (b.02.07.1857) and that Helene
could be "Chaja".
2)Knowing the birthdate for some of them (through naturalisation papers)
where should I write to have a chance to find their birth-acts ?
Thank you.Best regards,
Florence Mendelssohn (Paris,France)

Searching :
-(Poland, 19th): MENDELSSOHN (Warszawa,Zamosc);SZULCMAN (Warszawa);KOHN ;
DUTLINGER ; PRENTKI/PRENTKA; KAMINSKI.
-RUBINSTEIN (Kharkov,St Petersburg)
-RABINOWITZ (Israel)

Hi Folks,

I just received a record >from Social Security. My ancestor lists his
mother's name as Helen. I had always thought that her name was Eti, Esti
or Esther. Since the dates listed are also a bit off, (but close) I am
wondering if I have the record for the right person. Do any of you know
any Helens who's Hebrew name is Esther? Thanks for your help.

Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA

Hi Folks,

I just received a record >from Social Security. My ancestor lists his
mother's name as Helen. I had always thought that her name was Eti, Esti
or Esther. Since the dates listed are also a bit off, (but close) I am
wondering if I have the record for the right person. Do any of you know
any Helens who's Hebrew name is Esther? Thanks for your help.

Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA

Can someone tell me please where to look for Louisville kentucky
naturalizations in the 1890's?

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz

Can someone tell me please where to look for Louisville kentucky
naturalizations in the 1890's?

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz

If anyone is going to this cemetery in the very near future, I would
appreciate a headstone photo being taken. This person is a missing link
on my tree and I need to have his father's hebrew name in order to make
the connection. I am in New Jersey and therefore, not local.
Thank you.
Barbara Meyers
babycat3@aol.com

If anyone is going to this cemetery in the very near future, I would
appreciate a headstone photo being taken. This person is a missing link
on my tree and I need to have his father's hebrew name in order to make
the connection. I am in New Jersey and therefore, not local.
Thank you.
Barbara Meyers
babycat3@aol.com

There are several burial societies in Israel which have on record details
of burial >from over a hundred years, eg the General Chevra Kaddisha (burial
society) in Jerusalem who buried on Mt. of Olives for many many decades.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat

From: Ruth Hyman <rhyman@ggn.net>

There are several burial societies in Israel which have on record details
of burial >from over a hundred years, eg the General Chevra Kaddisha (burial
society) in Jerusalem who buried on Mt. of Olives for many many decades.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat

From: Ruth Hyman <rhyman@ggn.net>

Dear Genners,

I've a lot of questions today !
I've learn that two emigrants married in 1925 in Cherbourg (France) in the
Kosher Hotel-restore of my great grand-father. Their name was Jacob (Jack)
SHAMA and Sarah SHABOT. They came >from Syria and embarked in Cherbourg to
New York in 1925. Is these persons are familiar to you, please contact me.

Thanks in advance, and have a Have Passover !

Francois Chetreanu
Cherbourg / France

searching in Romania for :
CHETREANU, CHETRARIU, PETREANU (Buhusi, Adjud and Bucharest)
HERMAN, HERMANN (Roman)
CHENDLER (Bacau)
LEIBOVITZ

Dear Genners,

I've a lot of questions today !
I've learn that two emigrants married in 1925 in Cherbourg (France) in the
Kosher Hotel-restore of my great grand-father. Their name was Jacob (Jack)
SHAMA and Sarah SHABOT. They came >from Syria and embarked in Cherbourg to
New York in 1925. Is these persons are familiar to you, please contact me.

Thanks in advance, and have a Have Passover !

Francois Chetreanu
Cherbourg / France

searching in Romania for :
CHETREANU, CHETRARIU, PETREANU (Buhusi, Adjud and Bucharest)
HERMAN, HERMANN (Roman)
CHENDLER (Bacau)
LEIBOVITZ

Hello,

I've again an asking about given names ? Does anyone has heard about the
given name (in Rumania) ? It seems that it can be also Sobla, Sobe, Sobel
or Sobil.

Thanks

Francois Chetreanu
Cherbourg / France

searching in Romania for :
CHETREANU, CHETRARIU, PETREANU (Buhusi, Adjud and Bucharest)
HERMAN, HERMANN (Roman)
CHENDLER (Bacau)
LEIBOVITZ

Hello,

I've again an asking about given names ? Does anyone has heard about the
given name (in Rumania) ? It seems that it can be also Sobla, Sobe, Sobel
or Sobil.

Thanks

Francois Chetreanu
Cherbourg / France

searching in Romania for :
CHETREANU, CHETRARIU, PETREANU (Buhusi, Adjud and Bucharest)
HERMAN, HERMANN (Roman)
CHENDLER (Bacau)
LEIBOVITZ