I'm not sure about your town location, but I'm guessing that Lettia is a variation of Latvia, as Latvians are sometimes referred to at Letts, and the Latvian language as Lettish. Hope this helps.

Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

Hello to all!

I am trying to locate the "Bnai Israel Cemetary" and/or the "Warren Point
Cemetary" located in the 1940's in or near East Paterson, New Jersey. Thus
far I have been unsuccesful in ascertaining the present-day street address
of the cemetary or cemetaries where family members are buried.

If anyone has any information concerning these cemetaries, please email me
at ggilstrop@myexcel.com .

Gerry Gilstrop
Baltimore, Maryland

I'm not sure about your town location, but I'm guessing that Lettia is a variation of Latvia, as Latvians are sometimes referred to at Letts, and the Latvian language as Lettish. Hope this helps.

Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

Hello to all!

I am trying to locate the "Bnai Israel Cemetary" and/or the "Warren Point
Cemetary" located in the 1940's in or near East Paterson, New Jersey. Thus
far I have been unsuccesful in ascertaining the present-day street address
of the cemetary or cemetaries where family members are buried.

If anyone has any information concerning these cemetaries, please email me
at ggilstrop@myexcel.com .

Gerry Gilstrop
Baltimore, Maryland

In her message of March 15, 2001, Ava Sweeny wrote in part:

<<I just looked at the 1920 census soundex and my great granfather said that
he and my great grandmother were >from a place called either Kopchova or
Kapchova. Does anyone have a clue where this is?

Also, one of my grandfather's says that my grandmother is >from Lettia."


I think that "Lettia" is a garbled version of "Lieutuva" or Lithuania, and
suggest that "Kapchova" or "Kopchova" is "Koptchevo" (or Kapciamiestis) which
is north of Grodno and west of Druzgenik (Druskieniki), in the district of
Sieni.

According to the Schoenburg's Lithuanian Jewish Communities" a large
reaping machine factory existed here in the last part of the nineteenth
century. The town was situated in forests between two Rivers, the White and
the Black. Around the time of Lithuania's independence, fifty Jewish families
lived in the town, and engaged in crafts and trade. They all had vegetable
gardens, but only three families were farmers. The town had two flour mills,
an alcohol factory, a Hebrew school, and a library and dramatics club, and
the youth were involved with Zionist organizations. Jews owned two factories
which manufactured iron products.

The Schoenburgs mention the names of a number of Kopccheva's prominent
people.



Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.

In her message of March 15, 2001, Ava Sweeny wrote in part:

<<I just looked at the 1920 census soundex and my great granfather said that
he and my great grandmother were >from a place called either Kopchova or
Kapchova. Does anyone have a clue where this is?

Also, one of my grandfather's says that my grandmother is >from Lettia."


I think that "Lettia" is a garbled version of "Lieutuva" or Lithuania, and
suggest that "Kapchova" or "Kopchova" is "Koptchevo" (or Kapciamiestis) which
is north of Grodno and west of Druzgenik (Druskieniki), in the district of
Sieni.

According to the Schoenburg's Lithuanian Jewish Communities" a large
reaping machine factory existed here in the last part of the nineteenth
century. The town was situated in forests between two Rivers, the White and
the Black. Around the time of Lithuania's independence, fifty Jewish families
lived in the town, and engaged in crafts and trade. They all had vegetable
gardens, but only three families were farmers. The town had two flour mills,
an alcohol factory, a Hebrew school, and a library and dramatics club, and
the youth were involved with Zionist organizations. Jews owned two factories
which manufactured iron products.

The Schoenburgs mention the names of a number of Kopccheva's prominent
people.



Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.

In a message dated Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:01 -0500, <albert@accesstoledo.com>
writes:

I have been trying for some time to find information on
Sanok, Poland. No information on the Poland Website.

There are no LDS (Mormon) microfilms of Jewish vital records
for the town of Sanok.

The surviving 19th century records are births for the years:
1864, 1867, 1869-1897. These records are in the Sanok
branch of the Polish State Archives.

The only other town for which there are Jewish vital records
in this branch is Brzozowa. These are marriages 1885-1937.
Only the records up to 1900 are available to Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland for indexing.

At the present time, there is no project underway to index
the records in the Sanok branch. This will happen when
a volunteer comes forward to act as Archive Coordinator for
this branch. To read about the Jewish Records Indexing -
Poland project to index the Jewish vital records of Poland,
please go to the JRI-Poland web site at:
www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl

To read about the responsibilities of an Archive Coordinator,
click on the link to "Polish State Archives."

To stay up to date on the JRI-Poland indexing project,
subscribe to JRI-Poland's mailing list. You can do so on line
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/join.htm

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc. is an independent
non-profit U.S. tax-exempt organization and is hosted by JewishGen.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

In a message dated Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:01 -0500, <albert@accesstoledo.com>
writes:

I have been trying for some time to find information on
Sanok, Poland. No information on the Poland Website.

There are no LDS (Mormon) microfilms of Jewish vital records
for the town of Sanok.

The surviving 19th century records are births for the years:
1864, 1867, 1869-1897. These records are in the Sanok
branch of the Polish State Archives.

The only other town for which there are Jewish vital records
in this branch is Brzozowa. These are marriages 1885-1937.
Only the records up to 1900 are available to Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland for indexing.

At the present time, there is no project underway to index
the records in the Sanok branch. This will happen when
a volunteer comes forward to act as Archive Coordinator for
this branch. To read about the Jewish Records Indexing -
Poland project to index the Jewish vital records of Poland,
please go to the JRI-Poland web site at:
www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl

To read about the responsibilities of an Archive Coordinator,
click on the link to "Polish State Archives."

To stay up to date on the JRI-Poland indexing project,
subscribe to JRI-Poland's mailing list. You can do so on line
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/join.htm

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc. is an independent
non-profit U.S. tax-exempt organization and is hosted by JewishGen.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

Purim was March 17, 1908.
The Fast of Esther the 16th and Shushan Purim the 18th

Hat Mur

Purim was March 17, 1908.
The Fast of Esther the 16th and Shushan Purim the 18th

Hat Mur

A photo of Mir residents who were young Zionist Socialists around
1905
to the US.

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rkimble/Mirweb/ZionistSocialists.html

The print looks like it was made >from a newspaper photo and the
caption suggests it was published in the US around 1930.

Reeva Kimble
Eugene Oregon

In a message dated 03/16/2001 12:57:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ava Sweeney
writes:

Also, one of my grandfather's says that my grandmother is >from Lettia.
This is all news to me. I have no clue what countries these are in!

"Lettia" may well have been "Lite," or as we would call it, Lithuania.

Steve Gold
Detroit area

A photo of Mir residents who were young Zionist Socialists around
1905
to the US.

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rkimble/Mirweb/ZionistSocialists.html

The print looks like it was made >from a newspaper photo and the
caption suggests it was published in the US around 1930.

Reeva Kimble
Eugene Oregon

In a message dated 03/16/2001 12:57:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ava Sweeney
writes:

Also, one of my grandfather's says that my grandmother is >from Lettia.
This is all news to me. I have no clue what countries these are in!

"Lettia" may well have been "Lite," or as we would call it, Lithuania.

Steve Gold
Detroit area

Purim 1908 fell on Tuesday 17 March, beginning at sundown
on Monday, the 16th.

Len HANTMAN
Waltham, MA

Purim 1908 fell on Tuesday 17 March, beginning at sundown
on Monday, the 16th.

Len HANTMAN
Waltham, MA

Hi again,
My GGGrandfather born 1877 in Austria/Hungary had a twin brother. I know
that my GGGdied in 1958 in N.Y.and I think his twin was still living at
that time. >from what I've been told, they weren't speaking, and at my ggg
funeral, his twin brother walked in and scared everyone to death.
Apparently, not everyone knew about Ellis Getzler's twin brother
Nathaniel. Any suggestions as how to begin the hunt for the illusive
twin's kins?
Susan Stock
Agoura Hills, Ca

Could an expert on BK help me out here, please? I need to combine three
GEDCOM files >from three separate subdirectories into one to submit the
total to the FTJP. I think I did it once before but can't figure out how.
I am using BK for Windows 5.2G
Offlist answers please

TIA, Shalom
Robert W Fraser
rgfraser@iinet.net.au

In response to Albert Brookenthal's 03-15-01 inquiry for information
about Sanok, Myrna Levin suggested that he visit the website at
http://www.bh.org.il where he could place an order for searches. That was
a good idea!

Before writing my own response, I did not check to see whether any part
of Sanok's yizkor book, "Sefer zikaron le-kehilat Sanok ve-ha-sevivah,"
published in 1970, has been translated and put online at Jewishgen, but if
he can read Yiddish and Hebrew, this book may be a source of information.
In her book, "Finding your Jewish Roots in Galicia," Jewishgenner Suzan
E. Wynne writes that she owns a copy of the book and has a translated
table of contents and a translated index of surnames.

According to my 1962 Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer Sanok had a
population of 11,176. The town was near the San River, on a railroad
line, 34 miles south of Rzeszow. The inhabitants manufactured rolling
stock, bicycles,storage batteries, rubber footwear, and cement products.
They also did sawmilling and brick working. There were pipelines to Sanok

from nearby natural gas wells, and in the vicinity there were manganese

deposits.

In his "ShtetlFinder Gazetteer," Chester G. Cohen lists the names of
several subscribers to a certain book. The list includes a number of rabbis.

In her book, "Jewish Roots in Poland," Miriam Weiner lists the extant
records of Sanok and tells where they are located.

There is a probably brief article about Sanok in the "Encyclopedia
Judaica." And I guess that the Jewishgen affiliated cemetery project has a
description of the Sanok cemetery.

Maybe correspondence with other Sanok researchers would be helpful to
Mr. Brookenthal. He can find their e-mail addresses by looking through
Jewishen's Discussion Group Archives and he should also check with
Jewishgen's Family Finder.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.
03-16-01

MODERATOR NOTE: The Discussion Group Archives can be searched at
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
and the Jewishgen Family Finder is at http://www.jewishgen.org/

To add to the postings regarding the ship Vaderland the following
little bit of history was gleaned >from 'Passenger Liners of the Western
Ocean' by Vernon Gibbs.

The first Vaderland built in 1873 sailed >from Antwerp to Philadelphia on
January 19th 1873. She and two companion ships Nederland and
Switzerland were the first ships to carry oil in bulk but was later
decided that carrying oil and passengers at the same time was not a good
idea. She was 2750 tons and was sold to French owners in 1889 and
renamed Nautique.

The second Vaderland was built in 1900 and became British registered
with White Star in 1915, renamed Southland and used as a troopship. She
was first torpedoed in the Aegean in 1915 but reached harbour. She was
torpedoed again and sunk off Northern Ireland on June 4th 1917.
--
Brian Wyndham

brian@guarlfrd.demon.co.uk