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ViewMate: Help Identify Dutch Jews #general

Beverly <bev7@...>
 

I have posted four photographs found among my grandparents' photos, at
ViewMate and request your help in finding out who the people are in the
pictures. They are all Dutch Jews, and all photos were taken in the 40s -
50s. You can view the thumbnails of all four photos at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/index.html
The identifications I seek are vm492, vm493, vm494, and vm495. You can
click on the thumbnails to get a description and a better view.

The first was taken in Hilversum, Netherlands, 1954. The tall lady on the
right is my grandmother who was visiting >from New York, and I'd like to
know who the other lady is.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm492.html

The second photo is also presumably taken in the Netherlands. The woman
died in 1954.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm493.html

Third and fourth photos were taken in the 1940s-50s in my grandparents
home in New York.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm494.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm495.html

I don't know if these people are relatives or just friends. Please help
if you can!

Reply privately to

Beverly Shulster
bev7@barak-online.net

Thank you.


Hirsh,/Hersch,/Harry, #general

MHall10498@...
 

Hello;
Thanks to all the Jewishgenners who were so informative and
helpful. I appreciate it alot.
Happy Passover to all.


Marilyn Cooper Hall
Coventry,Connecticut,USA


Re: What was Really going on at 155 and 157 Rivington St.? #general

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 4/5/01 2:09:03 PM, Steve Garber writes:

<<I'm interested in learning why so many of my relatives indicated
that they were joining other relatives at 155 Rivington Street on the
Lower East Side in NYC. The building dates >from 1902. Before that my
relatives listed 157 Rivington St. as a destination on their passenger
ship manifests. I haven't found any relatives living at either address
on any record other than those manifests.

Some were allegedly staying at 157 Rivington, "c/o Adolf Mandel". I don't
know who he was. I wonder if he may have been someone who loaned money to
or employed immigrants in a sweat shop.

My relatives were >from Vaskovitz, Bukovina, Austria (arr. 1898-1912), a
town aka Vashkivtsi, Ukraine. I only ask about these addresses because
another member of the JGS of Colorado also has seen this address in her
relatives' manifests. I'm guessing that these addresses featured clothing
factories. Streits Foods is located across the street at 154 Rivingtion,
but it wasn't there back in those days. >>


I'd like to add some more clues to this Rivington Street mystery. In my
research on the arrival of my wife's mother to this country in 1920, her
mother, grandmother, aunt, uncle and cousin, who arrived on the same ship,
all listed as their husband and father a Mr. Isador Plissner/Plischner who
was purported to live at 178 Rivington Street. But in reviewing the 1920
census there appears to be no building numbered 178, or it was skipped in
the enumeration. The census for the 376th ED, 4th AD covers 168, 170, 172,
174 and 176 Rivington. The next number is 182 which is across Attorney and
in the 377th ED.

Now it really gets interesting when we find the Isador Plishner in
question living on East 145th Street in the Bronx since 1917!

Anyone have some old insurance maps of that area, circa 1920? Was there
a 178 Rivington Street?

I wouldn't normally send in a question like this but I wonder is the
answer is somehow related to the answer to Steve Garber's question.

Bob Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com


DAVIES pianist #general

Ray and Lee White <zeppo@...>
 

I think that there is a pianist called Harry Davies who lived in
(possibly) New York .His mother was called Rose (I believe). I would
appreciate help on this as Rose was my grandfather Isaac Clayman's
cousin.Any clues??
--
Ray and Lee White


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate: Help Identify Dutch Jews #general

Beverly <bev7@...>
 

I have posted four photographs found among my grandparents' photos, at
ViewMate and request your help in finding out who the people are in the
pictures. They are all Dutch Jews, and all photos were taken in the 40s -
50s. You can view the thumbnails of all four photos at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/index.html
The identifications I seek are vm492, vm493, vm494, and vm495. You can
click on the thumbnails to get a description and a better view.

The first was taken in Hilversum, Netherlands, 1954. The tall lady on the
right is my grandmother who was visiting >from New York, and I'd like to
know who the other lady is.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm492.html

The second photo is also presumably taken in the Netherlands. The woman
died in 1954.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm493.html

Third and fourth photos were taken in the 1940s-50s in my grandparents
home in New York.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm494.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm495.html

I don't know if these people are relatives or just friends. Please help
if you can!

Reply privately to

Beverly Shulster
bev7@barak-online.net

Thank you.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hirsh,/Hersch,/Harry, #general

MHall10498@...
 

Hello;
Thanks to all the Jewishgenners who were so informative and
helpful. I appreciate it alot.
Happy Passover to all.


Marilyn Cooper Hall
Coventry,Connecticut,USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What was Really going on at 155 and 157 Rivington St.? #general

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 4/5/01 2:09:03 PM, Steve Garber writes:

<<I'm interested in learning why so many of my relatives indicated
that they were joining other relatives at 155 Rivington Street on the
Lower East Side in NYC. The building dates >from 1902. Before that my
relatives listed 157 Rivington St. as a destination on their passenger
ship manifests. I haven't found any relatives living at either address
on any record other than those manifests.

Some were allegedly staying at 157 Rivington, "c/o Adolf Mandel". I don't
know who he was. I wonder if he may have been someone who loaned money to
or employed immigrants in a sweat shop.

My relatives were >from Vaskovitz, Bukovina, Austria (arr. 1898-1912), a
town aka Vashkivtsi, Ukraine. I only ask about these addresses because
another member of the JGS of Colorado also has seen this address in her
relatives' manifests. I'm guessing that these addresses featured clothing
factories. Streits Foods is located across the street at 154 Rivingtion,
but it wasn't there back in those days. >>


I'd like to add some more clues to this Rivington Street mystery. In my
research on the arrival of my wife's mother to this country in 1920, her
mother, grandmother, aunt, uncle and cousin, who arrived on the same ship,
all listed as their husband and father a Mr. Isador Plissner/Plischner who
was purported to live at 178 Rivington Street. But in reviewing the 1920
census there appears to be no building numbered 178, or it was skipped in
the enumeration. The census for the 376th ED, 4th AD covers 168, 170, 172,
174 and 176 Rivington. The next number is 182 which is across Attorney and
in the 377th ED.

Now it really gets interesting when we find the Isador Plishner in
question living on East 145th Street in the Bronx since 1917!

Anyone have some old insurance maps of that area, circa 1920? Was there
a 178 Rivington Street?

I wouldn't normally send in a question like this but I wonder is the
answer is somehow related to the answer to Steve Garber's question.

Bob Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DAVIES pianist #general

Ray and Lee White <zeppo@...>
 

I think that there is a pianist called Harry Davies who lived in
(possibly) New York .His mother was called Rose (I believe). I would
appreciate help on this as Rose was my grandfather Isaac Clayman's
cousin.Any clues??
--
Ray and Lee White


April Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

April Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 (please note: change to 3rd Monday,
because of Pesach)
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
********
Topic: Genealogy in the Round
********
Discussion of our genealogical successes and problems. Seasoned
researchers among our society's members will offer assistance and
suggestions to those less experienced. For those of us who have reached
the proverbial brick wall this is a chance to take advantage of fresh
ideas and suggestions by others. Use this special opportunity to present
your dilemmas and possibly gain >from the experience of others, and let
others gain insight into unique methods you have found to overcome
perplexing research problems.

Advance notice: Our May meeting will also not be on the usual date
(second Mon. of the month.) The new date will be on the 3rd Monday,
May 21, 2001

******
Special Offer for New Members and other Beginners!

Come at 7:15, 30 minutes early, and hear more experienced members of
JGSP give advice and counsel on issues that interest and perplex you.
Come early and stay for the regular meeting following.
*****
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting
******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information on
local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and much
more) please visit the JGSP website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
******
Russian Special Interest Group:
The next meeting will be held in April 22, 2001 at the
Klein Branch JG/CC, Red Lion Rd. & Jamison Ave.

*****
Lois Sernoff [JGS Philadelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen April Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

April Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 (please note: change to 3rd Monday,
because of Pesach)
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
********
Topic: Genealogy in the Round
********
Discussion of our genealogical successes and problems. Seasoned
researchers among our society's members will offer assistance and
suggestions to those less experienced. For those of us who have reached
the proverbial brick wall this is a chance to take advantage of fresh
ideas and suggestions by others. Use this special opportunity to present
your dilemmas and possibly gain >from the experience of others, and let
others gain insight into unique methods you have found to overcome
perplexing research problems.

Advance notice: Our May meeting will also not be on the usual date
(second Mon. of the month.) The new date will be on the 3rd Monday,
May 21, 2001

******
Special Offer for New Members and other Beginners!

Come at 7:15, 30 minutes early, and hear more experienced members of
JGSP give advice and counsel on issues that interest and perplex you.
Come early and stay for the regular meeting following.
*****
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting
******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information on
local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and much
more) please visit the JGSP website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
******
Russian Special Interest Group:
The next meeting will be held in April 22, 2001 at the
Klein Branch JG/CC, Red Lion Rd. & Jamison Ave.

*****
Lois Sernoff [JGS Philadelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>


Re: HYMAN and KHELEM #lithuania

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 4/5/01 2:12:28 PM, Monica Leonards writes:

<< So now I have some questions. Since I don't speak any of Hebrew, Yiddish, Russian or Lithuanian, I cannot tell how similar HYMAN and KHELEM are in those languages. Can anyone provide me with some phonetic equivalents? (However, they do not match under the Daitch-Mokotoff system.) >>

HYMAN is an Anglicized version of the Hebrew name KHAYIM and the only
connection I can see is if the Y were somehow changed to an L. Persons >from Chelm are usually caller Chelmers, and might have the surname KHELMER.

Bob Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: HYMAN and KHELEM #lithuania

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 4/5/01 2:12:28 PM, Monica Leonards writes:

<< So now I have some questions. Since I don't speak any of Hebrew, Yiddish, Russian or Lithuanian, I cannot tell how similar HYMAN and KHELEM are in those languages. Can anyone provide me with some phonetic equivalents? (However, they do not match under the Daitch-Mokotoff system.) >>

HYMAN is an Anglicized version of the Hebrew name KHAYIM and the only
connection I can see is if the Y were somehow changed to an L. Persons >from Chelm are usually caller Chelmers, and might have the surname KHELMER.

Bob Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com


name like PETRUSKITZ Wisoko-Litovsk #belarus

Joyce Weaver <joyweave@...>
 

Hi folks! I'm hoping someone will recognize the surname given for my
grandmother's father on her death certificate. I have checked JGFF and
the Family Tree of the Jewish People, by D-M Soundex and nothing close
comes up.

According to family records, my grandmother was the daughter of Aharon
Lieb VILNER/ WILLNER, but the name on the death certificate, given
apparently by my uncle, is Abraham PETRUSKITZ.

I know that my great-grandfather died when my grandmother was three
years old and her mother remarried, so I think this must be her
step-father's name. Her Jewish name was Sheina Feigel bat Aharon Lieb,
so I think VILNER is her natural father's name.

The family came >from Wisoko-Litovsk, a little north of Brest.

Does anyone on this list have any suggestions about what the name
PETRUSKITZ might have looked like in Belarus or might have morphed into
in the US?

Joy Weaver
--
mail to: joyweave@erols.com

POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rozenel./
BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg.


Belarus SIG #Belarus name like PETRUSKITZ Wisoko-Litovsk #belarus

Joyce Weaver <joyweave@...>
 

Hi folks! I'm hoping someone will recognize the surname given for my
grandmother's father on her death certificate. I have checked JGFF and
the Family Tree of the Jewish People, by D-M Soundex and nothing close
comes up.

According to family records, my grandmother was the daughter of Aharon
Lieb VILNER/ WILLNER, but the name on the death certificate, given
apparently by my uncle, is Abraham PETRUSKITZ.

I know that my great-grandfather died when my grandmother was three
years old and her mother remarried, so I think this must be her
step-father's name. Her Jewish name was Sheina Feigel bat Aharon Lieb,
so I think VILNER is her natural father's name.

The family came >from Wisoko-Litovsk, a little north of Brest.

Does anyone on this list have any suggestions about what the name
PETRUSKITZ might have looked like in Belarus or might have morphed into
in the US?

Joy Weaver
--
mail to: joyweave@erols.com

POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rozenel./
BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg.


Postcards from Mogilev #belarus

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,
I was fortunate to acquire several images of Mogilev at the turn of the last
century, >from postcards of that time. I've uploaded most of the images to my
website, with the Cyrllic captions enlarged.

You're welcome to see what the city looked like back then. Anyone able and willing
to translate the Cyrllic captions is especially invited to visit. The link is
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hshwebsite/postcard.htm>, which will then
have three links to the postcards. I'll post the translations as soon as I get
them <g>.

Happy Passover, everyone!

Hilary Henkin
Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN, HENKIN-GENKIN; MESCENOKOV
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS; LAVROTIN-LAVRUTIN; PESACHINSKY; SHIMERNITSKY;
STEINHART
Roumania: DONNENFIELD; RINCOVER-HARINCOVER; DOLLINGER
Harbin, China: SREBERK-SCHRIEBER, LITEBSK, SCHON--


Belarus SIG #Belarus Postcards from Mogilev #belarus

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,
I was fortunate to acquire several images of Mogilev at the turn of the last
century, >from postcards of that time. I've uploaded most of the images to my
website, with the Cyrllic captions enlarged.

You're welcome to see what the city looked like back then. Anyone able and willing
to translate the Cyrllic captions is especially invited to visit. The link is
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hshwebsite/postcard.htm>, which will then
have three links to the postcards. I'll post the translations as soon as I get
them <g>.

Happy Passover, everyone!

Hilary Henkin
Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN, HENKIN-GENKIN; MESCENOKOV
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS; LAVROTIN-LAVRUTIN; PESACHINSKY; SHIMERNITSKY;
STEINHART
Roumania: DONNENFIELD; RINCOVER-HARINCOVER; DOLLINGER
Harbin, China: SREBERK-SCHRIEBER, LITEBSK, SCHON--


More Rivington #general

Mimi Katz <geveretk@...>
 

I'll stick my 2 cents in...
I speculate that there was something in the water on Rivington!
My dad's birth certifcate >from 1902, at 11-13 Rivington, said he was black.
My eyes nearly popped out of my head when I read that! I'm curious as to
why he never had it corrected, but I guess I'll never know.

Mimi Katz, Chicago


Colomb, Colombo, Colombus #general

Micheline Gutmann <michelinegutmann@...>
 

Colomb, Colombo, Colombus,
the spelling depends on the country.
In France we say Christophe Colomb.
Where he came >from ? nobody knows.
When he was born there was not yet the Inquistion
but at the contrary at this period French Jews were
expelled and many went to Italy.

A study of Jews in Chambery (Savoy) in 1400
shows that a few Jews there were called Colomb.
But it is not a reason to conclude.

Many towns of Italy had Jews with that name.
There were COLOMBOs in Nice in 1808 coming >from Italy.

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France
michelinegutmann@free.fr
http://asso.genami.free.fr


NISSENBAUM #general

Yonasan Shapiro <shapie@...>
 

I am searching Nissenbaum >from Grajewo/Grayvah Poland. I Understand there
is another Nissenbaum family form Lulbin,and Warsaw . A Rabbi Yitzhak
Nissenbaum was part of that family . There is a street in Jerusalem named
for him. He was a secretary to Rabbi Shmuel Molhver. I am wondering if
the families are related. I asked some people like R'Mier Wunder and they
think it could be possible .. any ideas?? My family has ahron,berel,and
meir ..
.
Yonasan


Re: ZELINSKI, conductor #general

Michè e Krakowski <michele.krakowski@...>
 

Hi Folks,
Has anyone ever heard of a music conductor named ZELINSKI? Family lore
says that my maternal great-grandfather was related to him.
Zelenski : Wladislaw, born 1837 Grodkowice near Krakow - died 1921 Krakow,
pianist and composer : four operas in Moniuszko's style ( among them :
"Konrad Wallenrod"-1885, "The old Tale"-1907. Has published a Treatise on
Harmony in 1897 which has been used a long time in Poland.

Zielenski : Mikolaj, born ca 1550, died ca 1615, polish organist and
composer( worked in Lowicz and Gniezno)

Zemlinsky : Alexander von, born 1871 Vienna, died 1941 Larchmont-New-York,
austrian composer and conductor.

Michele Krakowski (Normandy-France)