Hi, all of you out in Jewishgen land in America. The problem of sending AOL
6 e-mail, which does not use plain text, to jewishgen,which only accepts
plain text, is hopefully solved with this message. I finally went to AOL
for advice.

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http://www.aol.com

Simple--after you hit the mailbox picture and follow the directions of
listing your e-mail address and password. AOL Mail on the Web sends mail as
plain text only! If this message can be read by you, the problem is solved!

Shirley Loewenberg, Delray Beach, FL

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Hi, all of you out in Jewishgen land in America. The problem of sending AOL
6 e-mail, which does not use plain text, to jewishgen,which only accepts
plain text, is hopefully solved with this message. I finally went to AOL
for advice.

Their answer--Use AOL Mail on the web site:
http://www.aol.com

Simple--after you hit the mailbox picture and follow the directions of
listing your e-mail address and password. AOL Mail on the Web sends mail as
plain text only! If this message can be read by you, the problem is solved!

Shirley Loewenberg, Delray Beach, FL

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Looking for any information regarding this Jewish Line named Bamberger

thank you......stu minkman

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Looking for any information regarding this Jewish Line named Bamberger

thank you......stu minkman

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Delphine,

You are probably looking for village Kivyazhd, currently known as Kamenskoye
at 4816 2257.
Unfortunately, I cannot help you with your request.

--
Alexander Sharon

Delphine,

You are probably looking for village Kivyazhd, currently known as Kamenskoye
at 4816 2257.
Unfortunately, I cannot help you with your request.

--
Alexander Sharon

ViewMate is displaying two photographs taken about 1900 at the studio of
Philip Hurwitz, 374 1/2 Grand Street in New York. Since the studio was
near the Yiddish Theaters, it took many photographs of Yiddish stage
personalities, two of which appear under the category "Do you recognize?"
They are:

VM445 and VM446

I am trying to:
1. Identify the people in the photographs
2. Identify the plays and roles they were dressed for

Your help will be appreciated. Thank you.
David Harris
Silver Spring, MD

ViewMate is displaying two photographs taken about 1900 at the studio of
Philip Hurwitz, 374 1/2 Grand Street in New York. Since the studio was
near the Yiddish Theaters, it took many photographs of Yiddish stage
personalities, two of which appear under the category "Do you recognize?"
They are:

VM445 and VM446

I am trying to:
1. Identify the people in the photographs
2. Identify the plays and roles they were dressed for

Your help will be appreciated. Thank you.
David Harris
Silver Spring, MD

According to <www.researchbuzz.com>, the New York Post will soon
digitize its complete archivess and publish them on the Internet.
The Post was founded in 1801 and is the oldest continuously
published daily paper in the United States. Plans are to have the
archives online by the Post's 200th anniversary in November 2001.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long ISland), New York
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

According to <www.researchbuzz.com>, the New York Post will soon
digitize its complete archivess and publish them on the Internet.
The Post was founded in 1801 and is the oldest continuously
published daily paper in the United States. Plans are to have the
archives online by the Post's 200th anniversary in November 2001.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long ISland), New York
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

Somebody asked a translation 2 days ago

BETEG = ill or sick
BETEGSE'G = illness

I hope it is useful
Georges GRANER

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Somebody asked a translation 2 days ago

BETEG = ill or sick
BETEGSE'G = illness

I hope it is useful
Georges GRANER

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Dear Gary,

Not sure I understand clearly your question. Until 1918, that part of
Slovakia belonged to the Hungarian Kingdom, thus the official
language was Hungarian. In 1848, when the Hungarians rebelled against
the Austrian ruling, some relaxation occur about the use of German,
which, of course, was the official language of the Austro-Hungarian
empire. So, during the period you mention, it is quite normal that
the matrical entries were mostly made in Hungarian.

The registers end in 1895 because after that year the vital records
were kept by civil notaries not anymore by the religious communities.

BTW, the county's name in Hungarian was ARVA, not ARAVA. In Slovakia
it was called ORAVA.

Does this answers your question?
the best
Tom


At 12:00 AM -0600 3/2/01, Hungarian SIG digest wrote:
>| Subject:
>| From:
>| Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:21:26 +1100
>| X-Message-Number: 7
>|
>|
>| I'm wondering whether there is any historical significance for
a change in
>| register format. The area is the Arava megye, main towns Nameszto and
>| Trstena, in the Slovakian part of Hungary, just west of
Zakopane in Poland.
>| In 1886 new registers are in Hungarian, finishing in 1895.
>|
>| Why these dates - 1886 & 1895 - and why the change of language.
>|
>| Gary
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

I noticed this book listed as a finalist in the fiction category
of the just announced 2000 National Jewish Book Awards. I have not
read it, but it sure sounds up our alley!

The Family Orchard
Nomi Eve
Alfred A. Knopf

Description >from the Jewish Book Council press release:

Written in a unique style that juxtaposes ancestral history with
fantasy, The Family Orchard touches on the ways each of us intake
stories of our ancestors and interweaves them with myths and leg-
ends. By creating a unique and powerful feminist history, the
author lays the foundation, whether consciously or not, for per-
sonal assertiveness. Bold print trains our eye to genealogy and
history as related by her father, while standard print places us
in the mind and imagination of the author. This book joins a whole
cadre of romances and genealogical novellas, but it is done in a
style that invites us into the author's life and welcomes to
explore our own.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

Marcia Katzel DeVries <marciadv@email.msn.com> asked...

Does anyone know if New York state has ever published a ... roster
of New York servicemen and women >from WWI?

The New York State Archives in Albany has a card file of
abstracts of World War I military service.

According to the NYSA web site at
<www.sara.nysed.gov/holding/fact/mil-fact.htm>
this data was abstracted >from Federal records before they were
destroyed by fire in 1973. "Summary data on deaths is found
in _Roll of Honor: Citizens of the State of New York Who Died
While in the Service of the United States During the World War_,
comp. J. Leslie Kincaid (Albany: 1922)."

You can request a war service search using the War Service Records
Request Form at <www.sara.nysed.gov/holding/fact/milform.htm>.
For WWI searches, the charge per name is $1.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

Dear Gary,

Not sure I understand clearly your question. Until 1918, that part of
Slovakia belonged to the Hungarian Kingdom, thus the official
language was Hungarian. In 1848, when the Hungarians rebelled against
the Austrian ruling, some relaxation occur about the use of German,
which, of course, was the official language of the Austro-Hungarian
empire. So, during the period you mention, it is quite normal that
the matrical entries were mostly made in Hungarian.

The registers end in 1895 because after that year the vital records
were kept by civil notaries not anymore by the religious communities.

BTW, the county's name in Hungarian was ARVA, not ARAVA. In Slovakia
it was called ORAVA.

Does this answers your question?
the best
Tom


At 12:00 AM -0600 3/2/01, Hungarian SIG digest wrote:
>| Subject:
>| From:
>| Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:21:26 +1100
>| X-Message-Number: 7
>|
>|
>| I'm wondering whether there is any historical significance for
a change in
>| register format. The area is the Arava megye, main towns Nameszto and
>| Trstena, in the Slovakian part of Hungary, just west of
Zakopane in Poland.
>| In 1886 new registers are in Hungarian, finishing in 1895.
>|
>| Why these dates - 1886 & 1895 - and why the change of language.
>|
>| Gary
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

I noticed this book listed as a finalist in the fiction category
of the just announced 2000 National Jewish Book Awards. I have not
read it, but it sure sounds up our alley!

The Family Orchard
Nomi Eve
Alfred A. Knopf

Description >from the Jewish Book Council press release:

Written in a unique style that juxtaposes ancestral history with
fantasy, The Family Orchard touches on the ways each of us intake
stories of our ancestors and interweaves them with myths and leg-
ends. By creating a unique and powerful feminist history, the
author lays the foundation, whether consciously or not, for per-
sonal assertiveness. Bold print trains our eye to genealogy and
history as related by her father, while standard print places us
in the mind and imagination of the author. This book joins a whole
cadre of romances and genealogical novellas, but it is done in a
style that invites us into the author's life and welcomes to
explore our own.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

Marcia Katzel DeVries <marciadv@email.msn.com> asked...

Does anyone know if New York state has ever published a ... roster
of New York servicemen and women >from WWI?

The New York State Archives in Albany has a card file of
abstracts of World War I military service.

According to the NYSA web site at
<www.sara.nysed.gov/holding/fact/mil-fact.htm>
this data was abstracted >from Federal records before they were
destroyed by fire in 1973. "Summary data on deaths is found
in _Roll of Honor: Citizens of the State of New York Who Died
While in the Service of the United States During the World War_,
comp. J. Leslie Kincaid (Albany: 1922)."

You can request a war service search using the War Service Records
Request Form at <www.sara.nysed.gov/holding/fact/milform.htm>.
For WWI searches, the charge per name is $1.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

Hi Tom, and Hi to everyone else, especially all the wonderful responses I
received that help answer a mystery my Mom's side of the family has been
wondering about.

With regards to the lurking, I wasn't going to go into any detail concerning
my reasons, but in view of your comments, as well as the pointed annotation
by our moderator to my original post in this thread, in my own defense, I'd
like to state the following: As you and others may recall, I used to
participate far more actively in this group, until I had an unpleasant
experience in response to a couple of my posts, wherein one of the members
did not like what I said, and proceeded to berate me in private email, and
to a lesser extent, in the group as well. Not wanting to ignite a tit for
tat war of words (which I would expect the moderator to filter anyways), I
accepted the unpleasantness, said nothing, but decided henceforward that
lurking was the better part of valor for this group (at least >from my own
experiences' standpoint). It feels a little bit unfair that Louis should wag
his editorial finger at me, even if gently, for lurking and not
participating, when my only reason for doing so was to avoid the repetition
of a difficult experience >from someone in the group, or alternatively, a
distasteful confrontational exchange.

I'm not trying to make a big deal out of this, and did not want to (and
wasn't going to) say anything in the first place, but I consider courtesy
and civility an important element of groups like this, and my response, when
I see a problem, is to withdraw politely.

Please forgive my comments --- I don't want to start a thread on this topic
--- but I felt I should briefly speak up in my own defense in view of
various (4) emails I received touching on my preference for lurking over
active participation. I'd love to resume participation >from here on in and
have lots of information to share, and I'm hopeful my negative experience
was isolated and perhaps atypical.

Kind regards to all,

David Deutsch

Hi Tom, and Hi to everyone else, especially all the wonderful responses I
received that help answer a mystery my Mom's side of the family has been
wondering about.

With regards to the lurking, I wasn't going to go into any detail concerning
my reasons, but in view of your comments, as well as the pointed annotation
by our moderator to my original post in this thread, in my own defense, I'd
like to state the following: As you and others may recall, I used to
participate far more actively in this group, until I had an unpleasant
experience in response to a couple of my posts, wherein one of the members
did not like what I said, and proceeded to berate me in private email, and
to a lesser extent, in the group as well. Not wanting to ignite a tit for
tat war of words (which I would expect the moderator to filter anyways), I
accepted the unpleasantness, said nothing, but decided henceforward that
lurking was the better part of valor for this group (at least >from my own
experiences' standpoint). It feels a little bit unfair that Louis should wag
his editorial finger at me, even if gently, for lurking and not
participating, when my only reason for doing so was to avoid the repetition
of a difficult experience >from someone in the group, or alternatively, a
distasteful confrontational exchange.

I'm not trying to make a big deal out of this, and did not want to (and
wasn't going to) say anything in the first place, but I consider courtesy
and civility an important element of groups like this, and my response, when
I see a problem, is to withdraw politely.

Please forgive my comments --- I don't want to start a thread on this topic
--- but I felt I should briefly speak up in my own defense in view of
various (4) emails I received touching on my preference for lurking over
active participation. I'd love to resume participation >from here on in and
have lots of information to share, and I'm hopeful my negative experience
was isolated and perhaps atypical.

Kind regards to all,

David Deutsch