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Sorry (was Re: Recommendation for a Researcher in Munkacs (Mukachevo)) #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

"CF" == Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
CF> mod. I can't see the connection of the message and the message title. I
CF> can only edit the message not the headings. We have had some discussion
CF> about the importance of informative and accurate subject headings. Please
CF> oblige our subscribers; and while at this, a related topic is the self-
CF> editing of messages, when responding, please don't just repeat someone's
CF> previous message in its entirety- only the salient parts, so that your
CF> response is understandable and in context. Thank you.LS

My apologies to all.

I was reading my posting and then used it to save typing, and while concentrating on getting the body correct, I forgot to alter the subject heading.

I'll try to do better next time.

Chaim Frenkel Brooklyn, NY chaimf@pobox.com
--

mod.- no need to apologize. Since I am writing anyhow -- allow me to
inform you all that I haven't forgotten the survey, but have gotten a very
weak response of those living in countries outside of North America. I am
trying to analyze the e-mail addresses of our subscribers to determine country of residence, but it has been slow going.LS


Re: Eperjes #hungary

Tsvi Sinai <t_sinai1@...>
 

You got to go to Lycos, print "jewish genealogy" and scroll down to
Shtetl Seekers
then click on "towns", write Eperjes in Hungary and you'll get three
places. Click on the coordinates and you'll get a map
Tsvi Sinai, Givatayim, Israel .


Hungary SIG #Hungary Sorry (was Re: Recommendation for a Researcher in Munkacs (Mukachevo)) #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

"CF" == Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@pobox.com> writes:
CF> mod. I can't see the connection of the message and the message title. I
CF> can only edit the message not the headings. We have had some discussion
CF> about the importance of informative and accurate subject headings. Please
CF> oblige our subscribers; and while at this, a related topic is the self-
CF> editing of messages, when responding, please don't just repeat someone's
CF> previous message in its entirety- only the salient parts, so that your
CF> response is understandable and in context. Thank you.LS

My apologies to all.

I was reading my posting and then used it to save typing, and while concentrating on getting the body correct, I forgot to alter the subject heading.

I'll try to do better next time.

Chaim Frenkel Brooklyn, NY chaimf@pobox.com
--

mod.- no need to apologize. Since I am writing anyhow -- allow me to
inform you all that I haven't forgotten the survey, but have gotten a very
weak response of those living in countries outside of North America. I am
trying to analyze the e-mail addresses of our subscribers to determine country of residence, but it has been slow going.LS


Hungary SIG #Hungary re:Eperjes #hungary

Tsvi Sinai <t_sinai1@...>
 

You got to go to Lycos, print "jewish genealogy" and scroll down to
Shtetl Seekers
then click on "towns", write Eperjes in Hungary and you'll get three
places. Click on the coordinates and you'll get a map
Tsvi Sinai, Givatayim, Israel .


Re: Eperyes, Sepes megye #hungary

Faith Gardner <ragfhg@...>
 

In my "Road Atlas of Hungary" (Magyarorszag Autoatlasza) I find it spelled
"Eperjes"...it's SE of Budapest and NE of Szentes...not sure what map you
have. If you can't find it, I can copy & send to you.

Faith Gardner

[Original Message]
From: Gary Luke <feraltek@zeta.org.au>
Subject: Eperyes, Sepes megye
A family letter mentions Eperyes in Sepes megye, but I can't find it on a
map. What other names might it be under?

Thank you
Gary


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Eperyes, Sepes megye #hungary

Faith Gardner <ragfhg@...>
 

In my "Road Atlas of Hungary" (Magyarorszag Autoatlasza) I find it spelled
"Eperjes"...it's SE of Budapest and NE of Szentes...not sure what map you
have. If you can't find it, I can copy & send to you.

Faith Gardner

[Original Message]
From: Gary Luke <feraltek@zeta.org.au>
Subject: Eperyes, Sepes megye
A family letter mentions Eperyes in Sepes megye, but I can't find it on a
map. What other names might it be under?

Thank you
Gary


Eperyes, Sepes megye #hungary

Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
 

A family letter mentions Eperyes in Sepes megye, but I can't find it on a
map. What other names might it be under?

Thank you
Gary

===================
Gary Luke
feraltek@zeta.org.au
fax +61-2-9519-9907
Sydney, Australia

mod.-sometimes it is difficult to restrain myself, and I want to jump in
with the answer - wish it was so in all the realms of my life!LS


New WEINER+CAPLAN Branch #general

Judith27
 

Epithalmion 2001/5761

Truly love's as easy as A, B, C.
Aliza (Weiner) and Baruch Caplan ~
Kind Kallah and handsome Hassan to be ~
will wed March twenty-second, per God's plan.

All their many dear kith and kin world-wide
are cordially invited to attend
as the Ketubah's read, a tie sanctified
and glad families, 'neath the Chuppah blend.

Now's HaKol Sharir v'Kayam! Hurrah!
As the wise Hebrew adage testifies
Shenichnas Adar Marbim b'Simcha
When Adar arrives, joy sure multiplies.

How will the novel of their lives unfold
as they create a Torah-true household?!?!?

~~ Shulamith Surnamer 3/7/01

Dear JewishGendom,
Since the groom-to-be, Baruch Caplan, is my son, for the
CAPLAN or really the CAPLAN-KLOMPUS-NACHUMOVITZ-LEPAR-BERMAN+LANGER-
WEBER-BALINKY-SURNAMER side, I happily have sufficient data on those
lines. It's starting on the genealogy of the bride's side, the WEINER-
HIRSCH +LEVINE-FEINSTEIN families that I would appreciate assistance with!!
My starting clues:
Fred LEVINE married Jean FEINSTEIN and had two daughters, Sandra and
Judith. They lived in the Bronx. Fred had a sister Cecilia, and a mother
named Annie (possibly with a maiden name of BLUM).

Elias (Eliyahu) WEINER married Martha HIRSCH and they had two children,
Moti (Mordechai) and Miriam. The family lived in Cluj, Romania, and then
moved to Israel. The WEINER family may have originally been >from Poland.
Todah Rabah in advance for all clues, leads, and suggestions.
Happy Purim!!
Judi Langer-Surnamer-Caplan <judith27@aol.com>
Long Beach, NY


Re: School Records from NYC, 1890's? #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 02-08-01 David Feldman asked about the possibility of
getting school records >from New York City. As has been discussed before in
this group, records of individual pupils are not kept at the
Administration at Livingston Street in Brooklyn.

One has to apply to the whatever school one's ancestor attended.
However, by law, the schools are not required to keep records more than 65
years old, although at least one Jewishgenner was lucky enough to get her
grandmother's records >from a Brooklyn school dating back to the early
1900s.

I was not so fortunate. The school which my father attended in 1910 (PS
64 on the Lower East Side), moved twice >from its original location and
probably during the moves the records were discarded. I wrote politely
several times to PS 64 at its latest location but never got a response.
I did get my father's college records >from Yale two years after I first
wrote for them. (I was told my letters had been "lost," even though Yale
sends me every year a report on the student recipient of an annual prize
in architecture which my father established.)

However, I have been able to find some of the information I'd been
seeking- the correct name of his birthplace >from the ship manifests of his
parents and his home address >from other sources. As for learning about
his life as a poor Jew on the Lower East Side, I've read just about every
book and article in English describing immigrant life there! (There is
also a lot on the Internet about the Lower East Side.)

(Funnily enough, at a recent book sale my local public library holds
every week, I discovered the sheet music copies of two sad songs by
Charles K. Harris which my father used to sing dramatically. They were
both about dead mothers and stepmothers. I shall never know why they made
such an impression on him and where he heard them. He never had a
stepmother and his own mother lived until the late 1930's.)

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.
03-09-01


Re: Birth Records-Poland ("Podwoloskaya" = "Podowolochisk" ) #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 03-07-01, Paul Silverman asked how he could get birth
records >from "Podwoloskaya." I think the town must be "Podwolochisk" or
"Podvolochisk" (Podwoloczyska) which is a town across the Zbruch river
from Volochisk. Both towns are near Ternopil.
I don't know how to get birth, marriage, death and other records except
by hiring someone to look for them abroad or by writing directly to the
archives at Warsaw, Ternopol, and Lvov. But Mr. Silverman might want to
do some searching at the AGAD archives at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad/

which are being augmented as fast as they can be, according to the costs
and the effort involved.

He may also want to visit:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Shtetlinks/Volochisk/Volochisk.html

and join the informal Volochisk group, where I am a sort of "hanger-on,"
having Rapoport relatives >from Podowolochisk, the remnants of which are
now living in Israel.

He may also want to read the entire Podwolochisk yiskor book at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/podvolochisk/

Perhaps he will recognize one or two or more of his family names
mentioned or listed in the book. It was by reading the Rapoport chapter
in the Yizkor book that I eventually found out, with the always generous
help of Jewishgenner Michael Chen, that some of my Rapoports survived and
where they now live.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.
03-09-01


Jergen ? Townlet nr. Bratislawa #general

Leslie Reich <LReich@...>
 

Date: 8 March 2001
Subject:Jergen ? Townlet nr. Bratislawa

Can anybody let me know the official name today of a small town near
Bratislawa (Pressburg) in Slovakia known in Hebrew sources as Jergen or Yergen.

In the 19th century the famous pupil of the Chasam Sofer, R' Moshe Schick
(Mahram Schick), was the Rabbi there and the Chasam Sofer used to go there
for recuperation.

I think the secular name begins with equivalent of Saint, possibly St
George.

Can't find in "Where Once We Walked"

TIA

Leslie Reich, Salford, England


resource for genealogy:Russia, Ukraine,and Belorus #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Dear friends,
There is a wonderful source for genealogy, anthropology, sociology, and
history of Jews of Russia, Ukraine,and Belorus which I have not seen
mentioned in our discussion group. >from 1955 to 1975(?) a series of volumes
were published in Tel Aviv by the Association for the Historical Study of
Ukrainian and Russian Jewries called HEAWAR [He-'avar]. Each volume
contains biographies, stories of various towns, histories of pogroms,
reminiscences about life in a shtetl etc. The early volumes are in Hebrew
only but later ones have brief synopses in English. Volume 21 (June 1975)
which may have been the last one published, has a comprehensive index to
volumes 1-20. The index is organized alphabetically according to subjects:
Correspondence (of well-known people; Persons; Book reviews; Memoirs;
Hassidism; Relationship with Russian and Polish government and society;
Economy; 1917 Revolution;Literature; Periodicals; Pogroms, decrees, and
libels; Communities; Documents; Miscellaneous. There is also an index by
authors' names. Obviously, this resource can best be used by people fluent
in Hebrew. However, if one finds a familiar name of a place or person in
the index one can have the article photocopied and translated.
Ben Gurion University Library, the closest to where I live, does not have a
complete set of the series. There must be one at Hebrew University Library.
Sincerely
Dr.Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Dr.Joseph M. Schwarcz
Arad, Israel


Sarah SHAPIRO #general

Linda Altman <southernexotics@...>
 

I have a copy of an SS-5 form for Sarah SHAPIRO, born 7 July 1885. Maiden
name is MERYASH. Residence is in New York. This is not my Sarah Shapiro,
so if this information is of use to anyone, please email me and I will
mail it right out to you.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
CYBULA/CYBULKA, MODRYKAMEN/MODRYKAMIEN, (Zambrow, Poland).
SZABAS/SHABBAS, CHILLER, (Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland).
WISHNEVETSKY or any close spelling, (Poland). LIEBERMAN, (Romania,
Austria).
KRIEDBERG/KRIESBERG/KRAYSBERG/KRAYBERG,(Russia, Ukraine, anywhere).
WEINSTEIN, (Polonnoye and Odessa, Russia or Ukraine). ALTMAN, (anywhere).
mailto:southernexotics@mindspring.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Eperyes, Sepes megye #hungary

Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
 

A family letter mentions Eperyes in Sepes megye, but I can't find it on a
map. What other names might it be under?

Thank you
Gary

===================
Gary Luke
feraltek@zeta.org.au
fax +61-2-9519-9907
Sydney, Australia

mod.-sometimes it is difficult to restrain myself, and I want to jump in
with the answer - wish it was so in all the realms of my life!LS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New WEINER+CAPLAN Branch #general

Judith27
 

Epithalmion 2001/5761

Truly love's as easy as A, B, C.
Aliza (Weiner) and Baruch Caplan ~
Kind Kallah and handsome Hassan to be ~
will wed March twenty-second, per God's plan.

All their many dear kith and kin world-wide
are cordially invited to attend
as the Ketubah's read, a tie sanctified
and glad families, 'neath the Chuppah blend.

Now's HaKol Sharir v'Kayam! Hurrah!
As the wise Hebrew adage testifies
Shenichnas Adar Marbim b'Simcha
When Adar arrives, joy sure multiplies.

How will the novel of their lives unfold
as they create a Torah-true household?!?!?

~~ Shulamith Surnamer 3/7/01

Dear JewishGendom,
Since the groom-to-be, Baruch Caplan, is my son, for the
CAPLAN or really the CAPLAN-KLOMPUS-NACHUMOVITZ-LEPAR-BERMAN+LANGER-
WEBER-BALINKY-SURNAMER side, I happily have sufficient data on those
lines. It's starting on the genealogy of the bride's side, the WEINER-
HIRSCH +LEVINE-FEINSTEIN families that I would appreciate assistance with!!
My starting clues:
Fred LEVINE married Jean FEINSTEIN and had two daughters, Sandra and
Judith. They lived in the Bronx. Fred had a sister Cecilia, and a mother
named Annie (possibly with a maiden name of BLUM).

Elias (Eliyahu) WEINER married Martha HIRSCH and they had two children,
Moti (Mordechai) and Miriam. The family lived in Cluj, Romania, and then
moved to Israel. The WEINER family may have originally been >from Poland.
Todah Rabah in advance for all clues, leads, and suggestions.
Happy Purim!!
Judi Langer-Surnamer-Caplan <judith27@aol.com>
Long Beach, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: School Records from NYC, 1890's? #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 02-08-01 David Feldman asked about the possibility of
getting school records >from New York City. As has been discussed before in
this group, records of individual pupils are not kept at the
Administration at Livingston Street in Brooklyn.

One has to apply to the whatever school one's ancestor attended.
However, by law, the schools are not required to keep records more than 65
years old, although at least one Jewishgenner was lucky enough to get her
grandmother's records >from a Brooklyn school dating back to the early
1900s.

I was not so fortunate. The school which my father attended in 1910 (PS
64 on the Lower East Side), moved twice >from its original location and
probably during the moves the records were discarded. I wrote politely
several times to PS 64 at its latest location but never got a response.
I did get my father's college records >from Yale two years after I first
wrote for them. (I was told my letters had been "lost," even though Yale
sends me every year a report on the student recipient of an annual prize
in architecture which my father established.)

However, I have been able to find some of the information I'd been
seeking- the correct name of his birthplace >from the ship manifests of his
parents and his home address >from other sources. As for learning about
his life as a poor Jew on the Lower East Side, I've read just about every
book and article in English describing immigrant life there! (There is
also a lot on the Internet about the Lower East Side.)

(Funnily enough, at a recent book sale my local public library holds
every week, I discovered the sheet music copies of two sad songs by
Charles K. Harris which my father used to sing dramatically. They were
both about dead mothers and stepmothers. I shall never know why they made
such an impression on him and where he heard them. He never had a
stepmother and his own mother lived until the late 1930's.)

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.
03-09-01


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Birth Records-Poland ("Podwoloskaya" = "Podowolochisk" ) #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 03-07-01, Paul Silverman asked how he could get birth
records >from "Podwoloskaya." I think the town must be "Podwolochisk" or
"Podvolochisk" (Podwoloczyska) which is a town across the Zbruch river
from Volochisk. Both towns are near Ternopil.
I don't know how to get birth, marriage, death and other records except
by hiring someone to look for them abroad or by writing directly to the
archives at Warsaw, Ternopol, and Lvov. But Mr. Silverman might want to
do some searching at the AGAD archives at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad/

which are being augmented as fast as they can be, according to the costs
and the effort involved.

He may also want to visit:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Shtetlinks/Volochisk/Volochisk.html

and join the informal Volochisk group, where I am a sort of "hanger-on,"
having Rapoport relatives >from Podowolochisk, the remnants of which are
now living in Israel.

He may also want to read the entire Podwolochisk yiskor book at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/podvolochisk/

Perhaps he will recognize one or two or more of his family names
mentioned or listed in the book. It was by reading the Rapoport chapter
in the Yizkor book that I eventually found out, with the always generous
help of Jewishgenner Michael Chen, that some of my Rapoports survived and
where they now live.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.
03-09-01


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jergen ? Townlet nr. Bratislawa #general

Leslie Reich <LReich@...>
 

Date: 8 March 2001
Subject:Jergen ? Townlet nr. Bratislawa

Can anybody let me know the official name today of a small town near
Bratislawa (Pressburg) in Slovakia known in Hebrew sources as Jergen or Yergen.

In the 19th century the famous pupil of the Chasam Sofer, R' Moshe Schick
(Mahram Schick), was the Rabbi there and the Chasam Sofer used to go there
for recuperation.

I think the secular name begins with equivalent of Saint, possibly St
George.

Can't find in "Where Once We Walked"

TIA

Leslie Reich, Salford, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen resource for genealogy:Russia, Ukraine,and Belorus #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Dear friends,
There is a wonderful source for genealogy, anthropology, sociology, and
history of Jews of Russia, Ukraine,and Belorus which I have not seen
mentioned in our discussion group. >from 1955 to 1975(?) a series of volumes
were published in Tel Aviv by the Association for the Historical Study of
Ukrainian and Russian Jewries called HEAWAR [He-'avar]. Each volume
contains biographies, stories of various towns, histories of pogroms,
reminiscences about life in a shtetl etc. The early volumes are in Hebrew
only but later ones have brief synopses in English. Volume 21 (June 1975)
which may have been the last one published, has a comprehensive index to
volumes 1-20. The index is organized alphabetically according to subjects:
Correspondence (of well-known people; Persons; Book reviews; Memoirs;
Hassidism; Relationship with Russian and Polish government and society;
Economy; 1917 Revolution;Literature; Periodicals; Pogroms, decrees, and
libels; Communities; Documents; Miscellaneous. There is also an index by
authors' names. Obviously, this resource can best be used by people fluent
in Hebrew. However, if one finds a familiar name of a place or person in
the index one can have the article photocopied and translated.
Ben Gurion University Library, the closest to where I live, does not have a
complete set of the series. There must be one at Hebrew University Library.
Sincerely
Dr.Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Dr.Joseph M. Schwarcz
Arad, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sarah SHAPIRO #general

Linda Altman <southernexotics@...>
 

I have a copy of an SS-5 form for Sarah SHAPIRO, born 7 July 1885. Maiden
name is MERYASH. Residence is in New York. This is not my Sarah Shapiro,
so if this information is of use to anyone, please email me and I will
mail it right out to you.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
CYBULA/CYBULKA, MODRYKAMEN/MODRYKAMIEN, (Zambrow, Poland).
SZABAS/SHABBAS, CHILLER, (Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland).
WISHNEVETSKY or any close spelling, (Poland). LIEBERMAN, (Romania,
Austria).
KRIEDBERG/KRIESBERG/KRAYSBERG/KRAYBERG,(Russia, Ukraine, anywhere).
WEINSTEIN, (Polonnoye and Odessa, Russia or Ukraine). ALTMAN, (anywhere).
mailto:southernexotics@mindspring.com