Hello, anyone find family >from Timikovichi(Belarus) with this last name?
J. Zeliansky lived at 40 Canal Street in 1904 when my great uncle Aron
Garfinkel, came to stay with them.. I can not find them in the 1905
state census in NY..also the family had a branch who lived in Sioux
City, Iowa, the Zell's..I think the spelling of this last name is the
problem..Help..
Gayle of San Gabriel, Ca

Amough the three genealogy software programs that I use I'm having some
difficulty with Family Tree Maker entering an adopted son by showing both
his birth parent and adopted parent. It's a situation where the mother
remarried and her husband legally adopted the son. The father if the boy
feels it is important that his son also know the true blood line.

Please reply to NormTillman@aol.com

Thank you,
Norman Tillman Albany, NY

Searching: TILLMAN, TYLMAN, DAVIDSON, DAVIDUVITCH, TRAKMAN, SHARFF or
SCHARF, ZYMAN ZIMAN in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia Regions

Hi,

Thank You to everyone who answered my question about the date of Yom
Kippur , 1943. For those of you who aren't aware, my reason for inquiry
is that there is survivor testimony >from Auschwitz that the 1,200
children taken >from the final liquidation of the Bialystok Ghetto in
August of 1943 to Theresenstadt, then sent to Auschwitz >from
Theresenstadt on October 5th 1943 were murdered in Auschwitz on Yom
Kippur. I just wanted to check and see if this if plausible which is
certainly is, and to get the yahrzeit.

I have a webpage devoted to these children, and the efforts that were
made to save them, which of course failed. The web address:

http://www.zabludow.com/Bialystokchildren1.html

Thanks Again,

Tilford Bartman

I am trying to find the name of my ggm's brother and know that he was a
founder of the Anglo Palestine Bank Ltd which was a precursor to Bank
Leumi. Does anyone know where I can obtain a list of the founders names?

Varda Epstein
yknow@netvision.net.il
researching; KOPELMAN, YANOVSKY ( Vasilishki ),SCHAFFER/SAKUTSKY,SCHWARTZ
( Vilna Guberniya ), RODAK, MOKSEL, ( Raczanes)ROSENTHAL,EPSTEIN,
(Tilsit ), MAYER/MEYERS, MENDELSOHN,PAUL,OSTROFSKY

As Norman H. Carp responded today (02-14-01) to David Henry's inquiry of
02-13-01, early marriages among Jews (and other peoples) were not uncommon
and many instances can be cited.

Only the day before yesterday, I found on the Internet an acoount about
the marriage of an eleven year old boy, Soloman MAIMON, whose first child
was born when he was thirteen. His life story is at:

http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Colleges/ARHU/Depts/History/Faculty/
BCooperman/Modern/maimon.html

This autobiography of the grandson of Heiman Joseph is interesting to read
not only for its early marriage stories (the author also mentions a 12
year old prospective bride of another fellow), but also because he offers
a detailed picture of the life of Jewish leaseholders, some information
about one of the Radziwill princes, the education of young boys, the
practice of arranged marriages, disputes among various interpreters of
Jewish law, and many more facets of European Jewish life, some of which
many people, even Jews, today would find shocking and unsavory.

Although two hundred years ago, some people lived a long life, most did
not. Not only did they suffer the effects of poor nourishment, they died
at relatively young ages >from tuberculosis and >from epidemic diseases
caused by poor sanitation. Not even the rich, or the nobles (not all of
whom were necessarily rich) were immune to such scourges. Moreover, we
mustn't forget that our modern ideas about a long carefree childhood and
youth are just that: modern.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.

Hello, anyone find family >from Timikovichi(Belarus) with this last name?
J. Zeliansky lived at 40 Canal Street in 1904 when my great uncle Aron
Garfinkel, came to stay with them.. I can not find them in the 1905
state census in NY..also the family had a branch who lived in Sioux
City, Iowa, the Zell's..I think the spelling of this last name is the
problem..Help..
Gayle of San Gabriel, Ca

Amough the three genealogy software programs that I use I'm having some
difficulty with Family Tree Maker entering an adopted son by showing both
his birth parent and adopted parent. It's a situation where the mother
remarried and her husband legally adopted the son. The father if the boy
feels it is important that his son also know the true blood line.

Please reply to NormTillman@aol.com

Thank you,
Norman Tillman Albany, NY

Searching: TILLMAN, TYLMAN, DAVIDSON, DAVIDUVITCH, TRAKMAN, SHARFF or
SCHARF, ZYMAN ZIMAN in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia Regions

Hi,

Thank You to everyone who answered my question about the date of Yom
Kippur , 1943. For those of you who aren't aware, my reason for inquiry
is that there is survivor testimony >from Auschwitz that the 1,200
children taken >from the final liquidation of the Bialystok Ghetto in
August of 1943 to Theresenstadt, then sent to Auschwitz >from
Theresenstadt on October 5th 1943 were murdered in Auschwitz on Yom
Kippur. I just wanted to check and see if this if plausible which is
certainly is, and to get the yahrzeit.

I have a webpage devoted to these children, and the efforts that were
made to save them, which of course failed. The web address:

http://www.zabludow.com/Bialystokchildren1.html

Thanks Again,

Tilford Bartman

I am trying to find the name of my ggm's brother and know that he was a
founder of the Anglo Palestine Bank Ltd which was a precursor to Bank
Leumi. Does anyone know where I can obtain a list of the founders names?

Varda Epstein
yknow@netvision.net.il
researching; KOPELMAN, YANOVSKY ( Vasilishki ),SCHAFFER/SAKUTSKY,SCHWARTZ
( Vilna Guberniya ), RODAK, MOKSEL, ( Raczanes)ROSENTHAL,EPSTEIN,
(Tilsit ), MAYER/MEYERS, MENDELSOHN,PAUL,OSTROFSKY

As Norman H. Carp responded today (02-14-01) to David Henry's inquiry of
02-13-01, early marriages among Jews (and other peoples) were not uncommon
and many instances can be cited.

Only the day before yesterday, I found on the Internet an acoount about
the marriage of an eleven year old boy, Soloman MAIMON, whose first child
was born when he was thirteen. His life story is at:

http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Colleges/ARHU/Depts/History/Faculty/
BCooperman/Modern/maimon.html

This autobiography of the grandson of Heiman Joseph is interesting to read
not only for its early marriage stories (the author also mentions a 12
year old prospective bride of another fellow), but also because he offers
a detailed picture of the life of Jewish leaseholders, some information
about one of the Radziwill princes, the education of young boys, the
practice of arranged marriages, disputes among various interpreters of
Jewish law, and many more facets of European Jewish life, some of which
many people, even Jews, today would find shocking and unsavory.

Although two hundred years ago, some people lived a long life, most did
not. Not only did they suffer the effects of poor nourishment, they died
at relatively young ages >from tuberculosis and >from epidemic diseases
caused by poor sanitation. Not even the rich, or the nobles (not all of
whom were necessarily rich) were immune to such scourges. Moreover, we
mustn't forget that our modern ideas about a long carefree childhood and
youth are just that: modern.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.

I recently found my mother's invitation list to my wedding back in 1963. On
the list was an Abe Drezner who lived in Brooklyn on Mina St. at one time.
I would think that that person is probably gone by now but maybe some one
related to him may see this request.

My name is Shmuel Fisher. My mother was Pauline Grossman and father Alfred
Fisher. We lived in Passaic New Jersey.

If this rings a bell, please respond privately.

Thanks,
Shmuel Fisher

ddworski@erols.com writes:
<< Is there any connection between the given names Michel and Meschulem? A
Galician relative known as Max in the U.S. is listed as "Michel" on his
tombstone. I confirmed this information with his son. For several years I
had unsuccessfully searched for him on ship manifests. No wonder. The
other day I finally found his manifest (yes, I'm certain he's the same
person), and he is listed as "Meschulem." I am trying to determine if the
names Michel and Meschulem are somehow linked / interchangeable--or might
the pronunciation of one name have been so corrupted that it sounded like
the other to a clerk recording the information? >>

There is no real connection between the two, except in your family and
perhaps others. It looks like Meshullem (Meshulam in Hebrew) was
simplified as Mischel (in some areas Yiddish for Michael), and
eventually "Anglicized" as Max.

I went a similar route. My Hebrew name is Me'ir; my parents in Germany
registered me as Manfred, a name so German that it made my life a misery
in wartime Britain. I asked people to call me Me'ir but it came out as
Mere, or Mare, so when I had reached the required age of 16 I walked into
my local Food-and-Identity Card office and formally chose a name that
started with an M and was both Hebrew and acceptable to the British. And
thus, by my own hand, I was legally Michael when I emerged on Grainger
Road.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER

Is there any connection between the given names Michel and Meschulem?

No there isn't, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a Meshullam's
going to a western country and taking a name like Michael.

Israel Pickholtz

I recently found my mother's invitation list to my wedding back in 1963. On
the list was an Abe Drezner who lived in Brooklyn on Mina St. at one time.
I would think that that person is probably gone by now but maybe some one
related to him may see this request.

My name is Shmuel Fisher. My mother was Pauline Grossman and father Alfred
Fisher. We lived in Passaic New Jersey.

If this rings a bell, please respond privately.

Thanks,
Shmuel Fisher

ddworski@erols.com writes:
<< Is there any connection between the given names Michel and Meschulem? A
Galician relative known as Max in the U.S. is listed as "Michel" on his
tombstone. I confirmed this information with his son. For several years I
had unsuccessfully searched for him on ship manifests. No wonder. The
other day I finally found his manifest (yes, I'm certain he's the same
person), and he is listed as "Meschulem." I am trying to determine if the
names Michel and Meschulem are somehow linked / interchangeable--or might
the pronunciation of one name have been so corrupted that it sounded like
the other to a clerk recording the information? >>

There is no real connection between the two, except in your family and
perhaps others. It looks like Meshullem (Meshulam in Hebrew) was
simplified as Mischel (in some areas Yiddish for Michael), and
eventually "Anglicized" as Max.

I went a similar route. My Hebrew name is Me'ir; my parents in Germany
registered me as Manfred, a name so German that it made my life a misery
in wartime Britain. I asked people to call me Me'ir but it came out as
Mere, or Mare, so when I had reached the required age of 16 I walked into
my local Food-and-Identity Card office and formally chose a name that
started with an M and was both Hebrew and acceptable to the British. And
thus, by my own hand, I was legally Michael when I emerged on Grainger
Road.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER

Is there any connection between the given names Michel and Meschulem?

No there isn't, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a Meshullam's
going to a western country and taking a name like Michael.

Israel Pickholtz

I urgently need your help please

Do you know whether the Germans kept any lists of Jewish children taken for
adoption???

Where should I be asking about this?

I have a deadline to meet - 25 May 2001.

I am seeking the heirs of David SZAJNZYCHT, a survivor of Auschwitz who was
living in Lodz at the start of the war.

David had a daughter, until this morning presumed to have died in Auschwitz .

This morning I had a message >from someone close, still living in Lodz who says:

QUOTE
" David ben Izrael (Abraham?) Hersz had one daughter. She had blond hair
and blue
eyes "and was taken to Germany maybe to be adopted".
UNQUOTE

I MUST follow this up.
If the daughter can be found, she has a right to property in Prague, but
there is a deadline for submission of claims - 25 May 2001.

Please guide me

Thank you, and be well

David Lewin
Search and Unite
London

I urgently need your help please

Do you know whether the Germans kept any lists of Jewish children taken for
adoption???

Where should I be asking about this?

I have a deadline to meet - 25 May 2001.

I am seeking the heirs of David SZAJNZYCHT, a survivor of Auschwitz who was
living in Lodz at the start of the war.

David had a daughter, until this morning presumed to have died in Auschwitz .

This morning I had a message >from someone close, still living in Lodz who says:

QUOTE
" David ben Izrael (Abraham?) Hersz had one daughter. She had blond hair
and blue
eyes "and was taken to Germany maybe to be adopted".
UNQUOTE

I MUST follow this up.
If the daughter can be found, she has a right to property in Prague, but
there is a deadline for submission of claims - 25 May 2001.

Please guide me

Thank you, and be well

David Lewin
Search and Unite
London

Tewel is a form of David. Tuvia is not. It is sometimes used as one
of the names of Moshe.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

From: Diane Frankel [mailto:dlfrankel@mindspring.com]

It has been my experience in doing my family's research that the

Americanized version of Tewel/Tuvia
is none other than David. Go figure.! >>

Tewel is a form of David. Tuvia is not. It is sometimes used as one
of the names of Moshe.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

From: Diane Frankel [mailto:dlfrankel@mindspring.com]

It has been my experience in doing my family's research that the

Americanized version of Tewel/Tuvia
is none other than David. Go figure.! >>