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Re: looking for a location #lithuania

Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
 

Dear Ava and all others,

Ava Sweeney wrote:

I just looked at the 1920 census soundex and my great granfather said > that he and my great grandmother were >from a place called either Kopchova > or Kapchova. Does anyone have a clue where this is?
The shtetl Kopchova (in Russian), today named Kapciamestis and situated in
southwestern Lithuania, was previously in the Suvalki uyezd (district) of
the Suvalki guberniya.

Best regards,

Adam Katzeff
Malmoe, Sweden

adam.katzeff@mail.bip.net

Researching:
BRENER: Kursenai+Papile, Lithuania
GOLDBERG: Klykoliai+Kursenai+Papile, Lithuania; Cesis, Latvia;
Parnu+Tallinn, Estonia; Sweden; Denmark
KATSEV / KATZEFF / KATZOFF / KACEV: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis, Latvia;
Parnu+Tallinn, Estonia; Sweden; Denmark; Glasgow, Scotland; Boston, MA+New
York, NY+Atlanta, GA+Los Angeles, CA+San Fransisco, CA, USA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania SV: looking for a location #lithuania

Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
 

Dear Ava and all others,

Ava Sweeney wrote:

I just looked at the 1920 census soundex and my great granfather said > that he and my great grandmother were >from a place called either Kopchova > or Kapchova. Does anyone have a clue where this is?
The shtetl Kopchova (in Russian), today named Kapciamestis and situated in
southwestern Lithuania, was previously in the Suvalki uyezd (district) of
the Suvalki guberniya.

Best regards,

Adam Katzeff
Malmoe, Sweden

adam.katzeff@mail.bip.net

Researching:
BRENER: Kursenai+Papile, Lithuania
GOLDBERG: Klykoliai+Kursenai+Papile, Lithuania; Cesis, Latvia;
Parnu+Tallinn, Estonia; Sweden; Denmark
KATSEV / KATZEFF / KATZOFF / KACEV: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis, Latvia;
Parnu+Tallinn, Estonia; Sweden; Denmark; Glasgow, Scotland; Boston, MA+New
York, NY+Atlanta, GA+Los Angeles, CA+San Fransisco, CA, USA


Lettia? #lithuania

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
 

Also, one of my grandfather's says that my grandmother is >from
Lettia. Thisis all news to me. I have no clue what countries these are in!
While our moderator is correct in noting that Lithuania was known as Liteh,
could the grandfather be referring to the Letts -- as in Latvia?

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
San Antonio, TX
hlb@texas.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Lettia? #lithuania

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
 

Also, one of my grandfather's says that my grandmother is >from
Lettia. Thisis all news to me. I have no clue what countries these are in!
While our moderator is correct in noting that Lithuania was known as Liteh,
could the grandfather be referring to the Letts -- as in Latvia?

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
San Antonio, TX
hlb@texas.net


Re: suggestions for finding twin #general

Mimi Katz <geveret@...>
 

Have you tried the Social Security Death Index?
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/

Mimi Katz, Chicago

Hi again,
My GGGrandfather born 1877 in Austria/Hungary had a twin brother. I know
that my GGGdied in 1958 in N.Y.and I think his twin was still living at
that time. >from what I've been told, they weren't speaking, and at my ggg
funeral, his twin brother walked in and scared everyone to death.
Apparently, not everyone knew about Ellis Getzler's twin brother
Nathaniel. Any suggestions as how to begin the hunt for the illusive
twin's kins?
Susan Stock
Agoura Hills, Ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: suggestions for finding twin #general

Mimi Katz <geveret@...>
 

Have you tried the Social Security Death Index?
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/

Mimi Katz, Chicago

Hi again,
My GGGrandfather born 1877 in Austria/Hungary had a twin brother. I know
that my GGGdied in 1958 in N.Y.and I think his twin was still living at
that time. >from what I've been told, they weren't speaking, and at my ggg
funeral, his twin brother walked in and scared everyone to death.
Apparently, not everyone knew about Ellis Getzler's twin brother
Nathaniel. Any suggestions as how to begin the hunt for the illusive
twin's kins?
Susan Stock
Agoura Hills, Ca


Duplicate record books #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

Phyllis Kramer shared that a researcher had found duplicate record
books. Actually, there were supposed to be complete sets of duplicate
records, according to the 1875 Austrian legislation that set up the
Jewish vital record collection system. Presumably, one set was to stay
in the district and another was supposed to be sent to Lemberg
periodically. Despite this mandate, very few of these duplicate records
have been found in Western Galicia. It is possible that the record
books that were in the Archives in Lvov after WWII were actually
duplicates of the district record books. The Lvov records were those
sent to Warsaw after the war. They made up the collection which is now
the focus of a JRI project. The records sent to Warsaw were the newer
records >from the collection. The older records were retained in Lvov,
now Lviv.

Phyllis mentioned in her March 12 report on these duplicate books from
Zmigrod that they "refer to folks >from nearby shtetls." Phyllis knows
that these "nearby shtetls" were, in fact, living in towns in Zmigrod's
district. In all of the recent discussion about the importance of the
administrative districts, it may have escaped some readers that the
administrative districts included all of the towns in a specified
region. Record books >from each district were bound ledger books on
printed forms. The forms were in German and Polish in Western Galicia.
At some point, in Eastern GAlicia, the forms were printed in German and
Ukrainian. The events recorded within were in the order of registration
and reflected births (or deaths and marriages) for all of the
communities within a district. The events were not separated out by
towns....just by the date of registration. There were separate books
for birth, marriages and deaths. When the book got to be of a certain
size, a new book was started.

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD

over 700 vital


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Duplicate record books #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

Phyllis Kramer shared that a researcher had found duplicate record
books. Actually, there were supposed to be complete sets of duplicate
records, according to the 1875 Austrian legislation that set up the
Jewish vital record collection system. Presumably, one set was to stay
in the district and another was supposed to be sent to Lemberg
periodically. Despite this mandate, very few of these duplicate records
have been found in Western Galicia. It is possible that the record
books that were in the Archives in Lvov after WWII were actually
duplicates of the district record books. The Lvov records were those
sent to Warsaw after the war. They made up the collection which is now
the focus of a JRI project. The records sent to Warsaw were the newer
records >from the collection. The older records were retained in Lvov,
now Lviv.

Phyllis mentioned in her March 12 report on these duplicate books from
Zmigrod that they "refer to folks >from nearby shtetls." Phyllis knows
that these "nearby shtetls" were, in fact, living in towns in Zmigrod's
district. In all of the recent discussion about the importance of the
administrative districts, it may have escaped some readers that the
administrative districts included all of the towns in a specified
region. Record books >from each district were bound ledger books on
printed forms. The forms were in German and Polish in Western Galicia.
At some point, in Eastern GAlicia, the forms were printed in German and
Ukrainian. The events recorded within were in the order of registration
and reflected births (or deaths and marriages) for all of the
communities within a district. The events were not separated out by
towns....just by the date of registration. There were separate books
for birth, marriages and deaths. When the book got to be of a certain
size, a new book was started.

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD

over 700 vital


roots- Kalerash #general

haiim <haiim@...>
 

Can any1 pls help me find a village named in the past (1890- 1910 ?)
Kalerash or Kolerash , possibly in Besarabia or Moldova.
at that time it was Russian territory, now it should be Romanian.That
village was the home of my ancestors:
Schneider, Hayat, Golzman, Elbelman
Any lead welcome with thanks
Jaime Schneider
haiim@actcom.co.il

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen ShtetlSeeker lists a Kalarash
in Moldova and several towns named Calarasi in Romania.
You can check the possibilities by going to
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
and searching for "Kalerash."


HARRIS: Poland --> Capetown, S. Africa #general

Seflaum@...
 

I have some information about a family named HARRIS who immigrated to
Capetown, S. Africa, >from Lodz or Lask, Poland. The surname was changed
from OSZPECIN / OSZPICZYN to HARRIS in S. Africa.
If you recognize this family, please contact me for further information.

Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas
Seflaum@aol.com


Jewish Orphanages #general

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

There is a website for the Hebrew National Orphan Home at
http://www.scruz.net/~elias/hnoh

Stephanie Weiner
Mt. Laguna, CA


Re: Ship arrivals #general

Stew Driller <sdriller@...>
 

Try: http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm
which has a searchable database of ship arrivals in NYC.

Stew Driller
New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen roots- Kalerash #general

haiim <haiim@...>
 

Can any1 pls help me find a village named in the past (1890- 1910 ?)
Kalerash or Kolerash , possibly in Besarabia or Moldova.
at that time it was Russian territory, now it should be Romanian.That
village was the home of my ancestors:
Schneider, Hayat, Golzman, Elbelman
Any lead welcome with thanks
Jaime Schneider
haiim@actcom.co.il

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen ShtetlSeeker lists a Kalarash
in Moldova and several towns named Calarasi in Romania.
You can check the possibilities by going to
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
and searching for "Kalerash."


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HARRIS: Poland --> Capetown, S. Africa #general

Seflaum@...
 

I have some information about a family named HARRIS who immigrated to
Capetown, S. Africa, >from Lodz or Lask, Poland. The surname was changed
from OSZPECIN / OSZPICZYN to HARRIS in S. Africa.
If you recognize this family, please contact me for further information.

Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas
Seflaum@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Orphanages #general

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

There is a website for the Hebrew National Orphan Home at
http://www.scruz.net/~elias/hnoh

Stephanie Weiner
Mt. Laguna, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ship arrivals #general

Stew Driller <sdriller@...>
 

Try: http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm
which has a searchable database of ship arrivals in NYC.

Stew Driller
New York City


You found the name of your Shtetl...now what might you do??? #general

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Recently Susan Boyer posted..... Looking for anyone with family
from this town in Bohemia <Horovice> Thanks susan boyer
I do have some suggestions.....

(1) first, you need to discover the current country for your
town. Just go to the shtetl finder, and key in "Horovice", "for
any eastern european country".....and you will be find it is in
the czech republic, at 4950,1355. You can see a map of the area
just by clicking on the longitude/latitude. Keep that "address"
so if you contact another >from the area, you can determine how
far apart the other towns are >from Horovice, again by using the
shtetl seeker.

(2) try the JGFF.....using only the town's name.....and you
will see there are others searching the town. Send them an
email or letter. Look at the nearby towns too....

(3) do a search of the Jewishgen Archives to see if any message
was sent with your town mentioned in it
(4) do a search of the Jewishgen Web Pages....perhaps there's a
shtetlink page for your town
(5) check the FTJP for researchers interested in your town
too.....
happy hunting....
PhyllisKramer1@att.net .... searching (all Galicia):
KRAMER, WISNER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/krosno/krosno.htm
STECHER, TRACHMAN, FEIR - Zmigrod, Dukla
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/zmigrod/zmigrod.htm
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL - Dubienko, Strzyzow
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/strzyzow/strzyzow.htm
LINDNER, MAURER, EICHEL - Rohatyn
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/rohatyn/rohatyn.htm
GUMBRECHT, ZIEGLER, FLESCH - HANNOVER GERMANY

MODERATOR NOTE: The ShtetlSeeker town search is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm


WWII deaths (USA) #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

This updated site for WWII deaths (USA) has helped me find
a Strausberg >from New Jersey that died during the war.
Perhaps it will help you as well:

http://www.abmc.gov/abmc45.htm

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/
Toronto and New York: ENGLANDER.
Cuba: ALHADEFF. Argentina: DE VIDAS and KAZEZ.
Paris: FRESKO. Leipzig: KAZEZ.
Florida: LEBOY. New Jersey: STRAUSBERG.


name change, Boston, 1903 #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

When my grandparents came to this country in 1903, a 14 year old girl was
listed as Dora Goldstone, a sister of my grandfather. I know that my
grandfather did not have a sister, and the conjecture is that she was a
friend or member of a friend's family and was being chaperoned on the
voyage by my grandparents.

My question is ..... would she have to go through any legal process to
change her name >from the way she was listed on the ship's manifest ..... or
is it likely that she just assumed her rightful name and no one would know
anything about it.

Thanks,
Saul Goldstone
Saratoga, California
sgoldsto@ix.netcom.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen You found the name of your Shtetl...now what might you do??? #general

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Recently Susan Boyer posted..... Looking for anyone with family
from this town in Bohemia <Horovice> Thanks susan boyer
I do have some suggestions.....

(1) first, you need to discover the current country for your
town. Just go to the shtetl finder, and key in "Horovice", "for
any eastern european country".....and you will be find it is in
the czech republic, at 4950,1355. You can see a map of the area
just by clicking on the longitude/latitude. Keep that "address"
so if you contact another >from the area, you can determine how
far apart the other towns are >from Horovice, again by using the
shtetl seeker.

(2) try the JGFF.....using only the town's name.....and you
will see there are others searching the town. Send them an
email or letter. Look at the nearby towns too....

(3) do a search of the Jewishgen Archives to see if any message
was sent with your town mentioned in it
(4) do a search of the Jewishgen Web Pages....perhaps there's a
shtetlink page for your town
(5) check the FTJP for researchers interested in your town
too.....
happy hunting....
PhyllisKramer1@att.net .... searching (all Galicia):
KRAMER, WISNER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/krosno/krosno.htm
STECHER, TRACHMAN, FEIR - Zmigrod, Dukla
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/zmigrod/zmigrod.htm
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL - Dubienko, Strzyzow
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/strzyzow/strzyzow.htm
LINDNER, MAURER, EICHEL - Rohatyn
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/rohatyn/rohatyn.htm
GUMBRECHT, ZIEGLER, FLESCH - HANNOVER GERMANY

MODERATOR NOTE: The ShtetlSeeker town search is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm