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Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Judi Wagner
 

Sherri,
No, their mother was dead, and the father could not come to US, was already sent back in 1923 before they were born for a heart murmur.  I am hoping to find a marriage record, then maybe I can trace them.  I did a quick check on that and nothing turned up, but I will keep at it.

Judi


Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

Adam Cherson
 

Thanks to all for the leads. It seems access to NYC DCs from 1949-1968 is in the courts since 2019. I just donated $25 to the cause. This is a travesty for NYC which is way behind the rest of NY State and many other states on this issue. I wonder if under the current regulations the Health Department would release to me a DC for my 3rd cousin, once removed who died in 1949? This event occurred 71 years ago. Ah well, on to more fruitful pastures..


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Max Heffler
 

I think there is confusion in that many MyHeritage trees were entered in Hebrew and thus it presents them as entered. It does not change any local settings.

 

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Check your settings as my subscription has never switched from English to anything else

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Re: help with ged/dna #dna

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

Thank you, Rollie.  That is especially interesting because she also lived in the 17th century, and from the surname Weber I would guess it was the German-speaking part of Switzerland. 


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

sonialipham368@...
 

Check your settings as my subscription has never switched from English to anything else


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

danbrockman@...
 

Geni is owned by My Heritage. My Heritage is owned by an Israeli company.

Geni is for those researchers who admire the concept of a World Tree of all people who have a name. Many comments above speak to duplicates. On Geni there are no duplicates. One person, one record, one set of relatives. If you add a person that is already on Geni you will get a duplication message and a request for a Merge. 

Geni is also integrated with GedMatch. 


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

sonialipham368@...
 

Ancestry owns Family Tree Maker and no longer supports any problems


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Max Heffler
 

Another benefit I have found from using geni, MyHeritage and Ancestry are photos. Many times an individual’s  photo will appear on only one of the sites.


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Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

A. E. Jordan
 

Hi

The death certificates are locked away at the Health Department only available to direct family members.

Depends on what years you are looking for on the naturalization but a lot of them are on Ancestry or Family Search.  A simple trick is go to the NARA NYC page and type in naturalization and they will explain what they have with links to the collections on FamilySearch mostly.  However most of the Family Search files are not indexed so you need to have the certificate number and then know how to browse the files by number not searching by name.

Allan Jordan




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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

I should know the answer to these two questions, but am floundering. 
 
1. Is there any way to see death certificates, not indexes, after 1948-49 for NYC and Brooklyn online.  I seek one for 1969 in Far Rockaway and one for 1981 in Brooklyn.
 
2. Is there any way to see naturalization records, not indexes,  in US District Court for the SD NY (NYC), US District Court for the ED NY (Brooklyn) , NYC Superior Court  and Kings County Court online?
 
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
 



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Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland


Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

A. E. Jordan
 

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From: Adam Cherson <adam.cherson@...>
What is the status of the 1949 records, which I believe are now public records due to the passage of time. Are they available on microfilm at the NYC Municipal Archive?

The New York Health Department lives by its own rules so no they are not available.  In theory births over 100 years should also be public but the Health Department simply does not follow the rules.  For example if you can prove a person is dead the Health Department under its own rules should release the birth certificate.  I was looking for a child born in 1910 and died three years later in an accident.  I took the Health Department the death certificate requesting the birth certificate and repeatedly they kept asking me, "Are you the child's father?"  I finally pointed out to the clerk if in 2018 I was the father of a child born in 1910 we would have a much bigger story to talk about ....even the clerk stopped reading the rule book and thought about what she was asking and started to laugh.  They never did find the birth certificate for me.

Allan Jordan




Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

A. E. Jordan
 

From: Barbara Ellman <ellmanb@...>
All records not identified on the Municipal Archives site are still held by the Health Department:
 

Marriage Licenses after 1949

 



This is incorrect information.  Marriage licenses were and still are issued by the City Clerk in New York City at the Marriage Bureau.  They hold the licenses from 1950 to the current day. 

Any license over 50 years is public record and anyone can buy a copy.  There is no self service at the Marriage Bureau.  You can not go there and view the records.  You can buy them in person (in normal times) or mail order.  The fee is $15 in person and it includes a limited search if you do not have all the details.

If you want copies it makes more sense to check the online index to get the date or certificate numbers first.

Licenses that were less than 50 years are available to the people named on the certificate as well as other people.  Read the Marriage Bureau's information as to the process for ordering the newer certificates.

Allan Jordan


Re: SCHAUER Family From Vyzhnytsia #ukraine

SKNR
 

Hi,
Trying to send pictures through the email.
Thanks for the detailed answer!
I do have a specific date of birth for one of the family members, but i couldn't locate him in those books.
I attached 2 pictures, do you recognize one of them as "Benzion Schauer"? date of birth 21 Dec. 1918.
 
Stav


Re: help with ged/dna #dna

curtstamps@...
 

Rollie Stamps
ID#51898

I have an Apollonia Weber 1615-1649, from Switzerland. No other information. 


Re: Post WWII relatives records in Brussels, Belgium - JAKUBOWICZ #general

Henny
 


Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

Diane Jacobs
 

For naturalization petitions, there are originals on ancestry.com and familysearch.com .

Diane Jacobs



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-------- Original message --------
From: Susan Goldsmith <jcwsmg@...>
Date: 7/29/20 4:41 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jewish Gen Digest <main@...>
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

I should know the answer to these two questions, but am floundering. 
 
1. Is there any way to see death certificates, not indexes, after 1948-49 for NYC and Brooklyn online.  I seek one for 1969 in Far Rockaway and one for 1981 in Brooklyn.
 
2. Is there any way to see naturalization records, not indexes,  in US District Court for the SD NY (NYC), US District Court for the ED NY (Brooklyn) , NYC Superior Court  and Kings County Court online?
 
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
 



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Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
jcwsmg@...
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

Diane Jacobs
 

Check the 6 volume set Migration from the Russian Empire edited by Ira Glazier.
It lists all passengers by date of arrival,  ship and then lists passengers by name, age and occupation.  I believe it includes
1882 as Vol. 4 is 1888.

I found my great grandparents and grandfather original surname there in 1888 because I knew all their first names and the month of their arrival. 

Hope this helps.

Diane Jacobs
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From: Minnie Schreck <mmsandfriends@...>
Date: 7/29/20 4:50 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

hello, is there a way to find a list of ship names/manifests for arrivals of Yiddish speakers from Russia? My husband's great-grandfather, Israel Divac arrived in 1882 and the 1920 census for Philadelphia listed his spoken language as Yiddish and his origins from Russia. Minnie Schreck

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:58 PM Marsha Paiste <marsha.paiste@...> wrote:

Hello all--

When my great grandmother from Kornitsa brought her children to America in 1895 they came on a ship from Hamburg.  The passenger list employs Yiddish names with unusual, perhaps German, spellings.  For instance Tsiedel became Zeitel. Similar forms of the names also appear on the list of arrivals in NY.

One of the names is hard to read but looks like Therue or Tocherre  which I believe is my great aunt Jennie.  Is Tocherre  a name?  Is it possible that my ggmother said "daughter" or "tochter" and the name on the list  arises from that?  Are there names for Jennie that seem like either of these?

Marsha Starr Paiste
New Hampshire


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Re: Travel information sought for Rose FRIEDSON #usa

Bob Silverstein
 

Sherri, thank you for the suggestion.  Rose was not in that list.

EdrieAnne, thanks for the information.  Rose's story was that she won a cruise from her employer and chose to visit relatives in Cuba.

I will try Steve Morse and look for visas and cruise line passenger lists.


Ester Fanya Fomin family from Vitebsk, Belarus and then Riga, Latvia #belarus #latvia

saskiamarinascott@...
 

Hi everyone!
I'm new here and trying to find information about my great grandparents.
Ester Fanya Fomin was originally from Vitebsk, Belarus and then moved to Riga, Latvia. The only thing I know about her family connections so far is that her father was maybe called Aron or maybe Afoim, but I'm going off a ship manifest with terrible handwriting. 
Chaim (Hyman) Freidman was originally from Latvia I believe. His father is listed as Jeruchim on the ship manifest, and he's listed as joining his uncle Judel Crystal in New York. An Allix Crystal signed his naturalisation petition in California.
They both came to New York in 1913 and married there a week later, then Ester gave birth to her first child four months later so I believe they may have been married in RIga - or maybe they eloped after she fell pregnant! Scandals.

Any leads?
Saskia


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

manderlie@...
 

I agree and it has the option to go online IF you want to do so. I don't but others do. So they use the appropriate settings. 
Susan Diamond


Jewish Legion WW1 #canada

nsb@...
 

Looking for further information about my grandfather Harry Boyarsky who joined the 38th Royal Fusiliers in September 2018. Born in Lida nr Grodno he emigrated to Montreal after the war. 
Thanks
Nicholas Boyarsky